Microsoft looking to launch new 10.6-inch Surface

Later this year - in October, to be specific - Microsoft is said to be launching a new tablet that will be thinner and lighter than the current 10.6in devices. The device is expected to be the next generation of the RT lineup that was not refreshed when the Pro 3 was launched.

The report comes from Digitimes - admittedly, not the most reliable of sources - but we also started hearing about this device from our own sources back around the launch window of the Pro 3, but held off saying anything after Nadella and crew axed the mini.

The updates to the device should not be all that surprising - it will be slimmer and weigh less than the Surface 2, as well as featuring the new kickstand, and we are hearing that the new Surface Pen will be supported as well.

When Microsoft releases the updated device in October, it will be the third straight year that they released a tablet in that month with the Surface RT and the Surface 2 also being released in that same time window. October makes a lot of sense for the release as it gives the company enough time to raise consumer awareness about the device ahead of the holiday shopping season and enough time to ramp up manufacturing too.

Under the new leadership, these devices could be axed at any time if the company does not feel that they create a unique value proposition but considering that Microsoft's cheapest Pro 3 will start at $799 this holiday season, without a cheaper option, they will need to release something to fill the low-end gap. Microsoft's current 10.6in device, the Surface 2, will by then have outdated specs compared with newer devices, and unless Microsoft is willing to cut the price, they will need to introduce something new to satisfy consumer expectations.

As always, nothing is official until Microsoft announces the device but we should know more later this year.

Via: Digitimes

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Lord Method Man said,
The fact that every day when I pick it up to use it its locked up and needs to be hard-reset to function.


that sucks, I wonder what went wrong. I have yet to experience that with mine. Maybe a defective piece of hardware is to blame?

Lord Method Man said,
The fact that every day when I pick it up to use it its locked up and needs to be hard-reset to function.

Take it back and get it replaced then. Because that has NEVER ONCE happened to me, and I got mine on the first day of release. Never a lock-up. It's always just there, available, working great.

I assume you've applied all updates and such.

But dont' blame the "Surface 2" ... it's a great devices that works really well. Your case sounds like you just have some bad hardware and it should be something they'll fix under warrantee.

Lord Method Man said,
I sent it back for a replacement. I got back a new Surface 2 that was also a piece of crap.

Was it brand new or refurbished?

Either way, that sucks and you definitely shouldn't settle for that. That is not how the device is suppose to work and they need to keep replacing it until you get one that works properly.

Again, really vague non-answers. The Surface 2 is not a piece of crap by any measure. It's rock-solid premium hardware, it's fast, and very functional. It's ONLY weakness is the weakness of the Windows Modern App Store selection.

I think you're just bitching to bitch, to be honest. Almost nobody shares your experience.

trooper11 said,

Was it brand new or refurbished?

Either way, that sucks and you definitely shouldn't settle for that. That is not how the device is suppose to work and they need to keep replacing it until you get one that works properly.

Brown box replacement, don't know if its refurb or new.

Truth be told my Lumia 1520 has supplanted my Surface 2 so I don't really care enough anymore to bother going through another RMA.

Lord Method Man said,

Brown box replacement, don't know if its refurb or new.

Truth be told my Lumia 1520 has supplanted my Surface 2 so I don't really care enough anymore to bother going through another RMA.

Brown box? Hmm, that sounds like a refurb to me, but I'm not sure. I can understand not wanting to deal with an RMA again, that process is never fun.

If you were near a MS Store, I would suggest taking it there. I have found they give you the best service and, unlike going through a shipping process, you get a brand new device off the shelf there and they set it up to make sure its working properly before you leave.

I like the 1520, but I cant imagine how it would replace a Surface 2. Office is terrible, RDP would still be a pain on that size screen and resolution. Pretty much everything I use my Surface for would suffer or be impossible. Glad it works for you since one device would be handy, but I cant imagine many people being able to do that.

trooper11 said,

Brown box? Hmm, that sounds like a refurb to me, but I'm not sure. I can understand not wanting to deal with an RMA again, that process is never fun.

If you were near a MS Store, I would suggest taking it there. I have found they give you the best service and, unlike going through a shipping process, you get a brand new device off the shelf there and they set it up to make sure its working properly before you leave.

I'm not near a dedicated MS Store, do the Best Buy store-within-a-stores have the same services?

Lord Method Man said,
The fact that every day when I pick it up to use it its locked up and needs to be hard-reset to function.

Had the same experience with my Surface 2, would need hard-reset too many times. And I did not had any performance issue with the Tegra, but the lack of many apps for RT was a pain. Got back to Android and I am much happier.

Lord Method Man said,

I'm not near a dedicated MS Store, do the Best Buy store-within-a-stores have the same services?

Hmm, I'm not sure about that. Those are not 'run by MS' so I have my doubts they share any of the policies of the MS Stores. The last time I was in a Best Buy, it looked like those sections are just a section of Best Buy dedicated to MS products, not something on its own.

Even if you don't have a full line MS Store, maybe a smaller MS kiosk is nearby or opening soon. Whatever size the store is, they have the same policy. They will go out of their way to make sure you leave with what you were after in my experience. especially when you had problems getting satisfaction from a third party or MS itself.

TruckWEB said,

Had the same experience with my Surface 2, would need hard-reset too many times. And I did not had any performance issue with the Tegra, but the lack of many apps for RT was a pain. Got back to Android and I am much happier.

I wonder what happened to the devices that ran into this issue. To lock up and require a complete reset every time you tried to use the device is a serious failure. It almost sounds like a bad batch of devices got out into the wild, which creates a terrible situation.

Take the Surface 2 ... add the Surface Pro 3's kick-stand, pen, and power port... perhaps even the screen aspect ratio. Make it thinner, lighter, and make the battery last longer. And you have a winner for a Surface 3, imho.

All that is missing in a Surface Mini at that point.

Exciting if true. If it is thinner and lighter, it makes you wonder how/if they are able to incorporate the same kickstand found in Surface Pro 3. Either way works for me. I doubt it will include the 3:2 aspect ratio found on Surface Pro 3 but it would be terrific if it did.

Ugg WHY?

I wanted a Surface Mini, instead I bought an Acer W4 but would trade that in for a Surface mini.
WTF is the deal with MS and the Surface Mini? A 10inch RT tablet is already out why not try another form factor? The Surface line could really use a 7-8 inch option.

With pen and office it could be interesting. But it needs the lower price. It's too close to laptop price with it's current range.

I see people arguing over the usefulness of a Windows RT device again. This happens way too much. iPads have their place, they are not bad devices at all, but the Surface 2 also has its place and can represent a better value than an iPad if the customer sees the value in its more unique features.

I actually own a Surface 2 and I have to say that its been a great device. I use it everyday. Its a great companion device, like the ipad or android tablet.

The app store may be more limited currently vs say the ipad, but it still offers a wide range of apps, including quality apps that I have started using regularly. Universal apps have already had a big impact on the Windows 8 Store and hopefully that trend continues. The real advantage that a Surface 2 has over an ipad comes down to a couple factors: USB port, MicroSD card slot, kick stand, and office included.

So for anyone that might be looking at a Surface 2 vs an iPad, they simply need to find out if those features matter to them and if the apps they want to use are available on either platform (many people do not use many apps, so having a large marketplace does not carry as much weight). Being able to expand your storage whenever you like with a microSD card may sound small to people here, but many people really like that. Likewise, that usb port can be very useful for people that need access to a flash drive, camera, etc. Including Office for free is a big deal as well for anyone that would like/need that for work, school, etc. The kickstand may be just a cosmetic feature, but it adds to the versatility of the device without requiring you to buy a cover to get that.

The keyboard covers are not a feature of the device itself, but I thought I would throw that in as a nice perk for any Surface device. It again adds versatility to the device, but at an extra cost. That cover is a big deal in my opinion. Not needed by everyone, but for those that do, its a great deal.

So yeah, I think a Surface 3 that refines those features, offers more powerful hardware and proper support for the new pen could be popular. It would represent a very nice upgrade. The note taking aspects of the device would be a very tempting feature for many people, especially students. That pen in combination with OneNote offers a compelling feature.

Agreed. However, part of me wants MS to release an Atom based Surface (non pro) just so these whiners will shut up already. But hey, then I expect Apple to do the same and release an Atom iPad. Equally stupid idea.

I wish the complainers stopped referring to the Surface as a laptop. It's not. It's a tablet like the iPad that can somewhat behave like a laptop, but it's not one, so nobody should expect full apps to run in it other than Office. This, admittedly, is MS own fault for including a very visible desktop: they should have had a modern app for a file picker and run desktop office without showing any desktop bits, just with a fullscreen window that shows no taskbar. They didn't, people got confused, and they harmed the Surface brand.

Unnecessary damage indeed...

Xabier Granja said,

I wish the complainers stopped referring to the Surface as a laptop. It's not. It's a tablet like the iPad that can somewhat behave like a laptop, but it's not one, so nobody should expect full apps to run in it other than Office. This, admittedly, is MS own fault for including a very visible desktop: they should have had a modern app for a file picker and run desktop office without showing any desktop bits, just with a fullscreen window that shows no taskbar. They didn't, people got confused, and they harmed the Surface brand.

Unnecessary damage indeed...

Unnecessary damage, sure, but I really do not think they had any other choice. A touch version of Office was not ready, nor was there any comperable file picker/explorer experience for Windows RT.


Plus, I don't think the damage is permanent or unrecoverable. When consumers are properly told what the difference is, then they tend to pick up on it quickly and accept that. Removing the desktop on those devices will be a good step though. It seems like MS is going to do just that as soon as a viable version of Office is finished. That should be accompanied by a proper file picker/explorer replacement.

Cant wait! I love my original RT and held off on getting a Surface 2 because my RT still does what I need. Faster, thinner, AND a PEN for $400 or less and this is an instant buy for me.

All this focusing on hardware by MS is fine and dandy, as far as it goes. But, and this is a big "but," when MS ignores the needs of all other users with their Windows-8 Operating System, that is a huge strategic mistakes. Will MS fix the "mess" in Windows-9? We'll just have to wait and see. (Failure fix the "mess" just means that Windows-7 will remain dominant, or at least a major player, until 2020 or Windows-10.)

Grandly-toned, sweeping and unspecific. And wrong*. Good to have you back chap!

I love, "love" the self quoting! :)

* This post created on a Windows 8.1 desktop, no touch-screen, faster and more featured than Win7.

Woo! Can't wait! Screw these other commenters!

Just like Surface RT, if the Surface 3 has pen support, it will be a day 1 buy for me!

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