Microsoft start advertising Internet Explorer 9 beta

Long Zheng has just spotted that Microsoft is already starting to advertise Internet Explorer 9 Beta ahead of its official launch next Wednesday. The banner advert was spotted on TechCrunch and it’s likely to be found on many other sites across the web.

The advert features a few quotes from people and web sites that who played with previous versions of Internet Explorer 9. The advert focuses on how Internet Explorer 9 will allow for a different kind of internet than the one we are used too telling readers to “get ready for a more beautiful web”. This has been the tag line used with Internet Explorer 9 ever since Microsoft announced they would be holding a special event for the launch of the beta.

Microsoft announced back in August that they would be holding an event in San Francisco on September 15th where Internet Explorer 9 Beta would be announced. It is unusual for a company to put so much emphasis on a beta version of a piece of software which suggests either Microsoft have got a lot planned for Internet Explorer 9 or have more to announce than just a browser.

An image leaked in late August that is rumoured to be of Internet Explorer 9 but there have been many who have questioned the image’s authenticity.

Microsoft has been providing developer access to the much improved Internet Explorer 9 rendering engine on a regular basis. The company has been stressing that developers shouldn’t have to worry about which browser will be rendering a web page but should be able to just write code for all browsers. To that end Internet Explorer 9 will be far more standards compliant than any other Microsoft browser to date and appears to far faster than any previous versions of the browser, its now almost as fast as Google Chrome and Apple Safari.

If you are interested in Internet Explorer 9 then you will want to check out http://www.beautyoftheweb.com next week.

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Hey Folks, I see there is quite a lot of interest in the new IE9. Even though some folks have mentioned it I wanted you to know that IE9 isn't going to be an upgraded ie8, it's a brand new browser built around the common Web standards for HTML5. It has a lot of new features including Integrated Hardware Acceleration, CSS3 support and HTML5 support. With the emphasis on Web standards and the new Hardware Acceleration, you will see WebPages built in HTML5 in a whole new way. I invite you to visit the http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/ and explore the features and see how fast the browser works with Hardware Acceleration and how well an HTML5 designed page looks. So look for the Beta release soon and you will have a chance to download it for yourself and see just how good it is.
Cheers,
Rick
IE Outreach Team

Prediction: We're going to hate the new UI within a few days, but love the speed of IE9.

Just sayin'! I'm rooting for Microsoft, really am, but, this is one of those "too little too late" moments IMO. I'll still test it though.

Ambroos said,

That's totally fake. Probably just IE8 with Chrome Frame.


+1

Just a spammy comment to advertise some website.

I will pass IE 9 and any other browser coming from MS. I am content with firefox and used it for long enough to run away from MS. Active X craps and other security issues gave me a bad impression about IE.

Auditor said,
I will pass IE 9 and any other browser coming from MS. I am content with firefox and used it for long enough to run away from MS. Active X craps and other security issues gave me a bad impression about IE.

I have little respect for those who will pass on a piece of software just because its from a certain company. Don't knock it 'till you try it.

Auditor said,
I will pass IE 9 and any other browser coming from MS. I am content with firefox and used it for long enough to run away from MS. Active X craps and other security issues gave me a bad impression about IE.

Awesome, stick with one of the most insecure browsers because you don't like Microsoft.

Liking a browser is one thing, ignorantly following a browser is just sad.

DarkNovaGamer said,

I have little respect for those who will pass on a piece of software just because its from a certain company. Don't knock it 'till you try it.

IE is notorious for catching drive by installs, viruses, trojans, etc because Microsoft let ActiveX have access to anything and everything. Until they remove ActiveX from IE. I will not even bother using IE as my main browser. I would say the same thing if it was from Mozilla or Google.

thenetavenger said,

Awesome, stick with one of the most insecure browsers because you don't like Microsoft.

Liking a browser is one thing, ignorantly following a browser is just sad.

Any browser can be insecure. But I do not see how Firefox is more insecure than IE.

ZekeComa said,

IE is notorious for catching drive by installs, viruses, trojans, etc because Microsoft let ActiveX have access to anything and everything. Until they remove ActiveX from IE. I will not even bother using IE as my main browser. I would say the same thing if it was from Mozilla or Google.

You mean Internet Explorer Protected Mode? It runs as a low integrity process that has no write access to files or registry keys. It's been that way since Windows Vista (2006/2007).

Get back to us when Firefox supports Protected Mode/low integrity processes. To be fair, Google Chrome does.

rfirth said,

You mean Internet Explorer Protected Mode? It runs as a low integrity process that has no write access to files or registry keys. It's been that way since Windows Vista (2006/2007).

Get back to us when Firefox supports Protected Mode/low integrity processes. To be fair, Google Chrome does.

Protected Mode? What does it need to protect from? Nothing downloads without user input, it has a virus scanner when a file is complete, it doesn't have ActiveX. So I don't see no use for it.

Auditor said,
I will pass IE 9 and any other browser coming from MS. I am content with firefox and used it for long enough to run away from MS. Active X craps and other security issues gave me a bad impression about IE.

IE8 running in Protected Mode is the most secure browser on the planet. Firefox is a highly insecure browser because it has no Protected Mode/Sandbox support. Plus the default Firefox 3.6 UI is the fugliest UI design EVER.

MS is certainly learning how to get stylish with its websites and logos. Really love that logo. Honestly, lately Apple's design is feeling uncreative.

generko said,
So so so so exciting!!! And I really like the new smooth IE icon, better than other browsers by a range.

Yeah, the icon is more like the other Windows 7 icons...

Can't wait to see how this runs on my Mac!

Hehe, let me guess: "Beautyoftheweb.com" will be all about hw acceleration, barely anything about HTML5 and WebM.

Northgrove said,
Can't wait to see how this runs on my Mac!

Hehe, let me guess: "Beautyoftheweb.com" will be all about hw acceleration, barely anything about HTML5 and WebM.


Yes, because one of the major focuses of IE9 is not HTML5...

Northgrove said,
Can't wait to see how this runs on my Mac!

Hehe, let me guess: "Beautyoftheweb.com" will be all about hw acceleration, barely anything about HTML5 and WebM.


No one cares about WebM except for Mozilla and Opera

Northgrove said,
Can't wait to see how this runs on my Mac!

Hehe, let me guess: "Beautyoftheweb.com" will be all about hw acceleration, barely anything about HTML5 and WebM.

Or it will be about running HTML5 and newer standards at near machine code levels, not just javascript with a JIT. This is what is important, moving every aspect from the network traffic, to the parsing all to faster near code levels of performance. While adhering to and helping to define consistent rendering of the Web standards.

Northgrove said,
Can't wait to see how this runs on my Mac!

Hehe, let me guess: "Beautyoftheweb.com" will be all about hw acceleration, barely anything about HTML5 and WebM.

Well someone has to make software that looks good on Windows. We all know that Apple is incapable of such things with continued releases of iTunes and Safari.

I doubt it will change anything. I mean they've only just now managed to implement the w3c web standards. Remind me how long that took?

They're only advertising now that their monopoly is failing. People just mistrust IE, and with good reason, for IE and activex are the gateways most viruses/malware use. I predict in 5 years time that its marketshare will be in the %20-30's if not less, and the more they lose the less people will be using live search, bing, et alii or whatever it's called today.

LoveThePenguin said,
I doubt it will change anything. I mean they've only just now managed to implement the w3c web standards. Remind me how long that took?

They're only advertising now that their monopoly is failing. People just mistrust IE, and with good reason. I predict in 5 years time that its marketshare will be in the %20-30's if not less, and the more they lose the less people will be using live search, bing, et alii or whatever it's called today.

You mean standards like HTML5 which won't be final and passed by the w3c until sometime in 2020 iirc? If so then what's the rush exactly?

LoveThePenguin said,
IE and activex are the gateways most viruses/malware use.

Is this still true regarding IE8? I seriously doubt it and IE is losing marketshare because they had nothing new to show for a looong time while especially Chrome is shoving out new versions faster and faster (notice that Firefox isn't growing anymore). A new version of IE will most definitely make a nice impact.

LoveThePenguin said,

People just mistrust IE, and with good reason, for IE and activex are the gateways most viruses/malware use.

Plugins like Flash, Quicktime, and Java are targeted more often than IE 8 since IE itself is very secure these days. Most malware and viruses come from people stupidly downloading "free" software from the Internets and clicking "Yes," "OK," and "Install anyway," all the time.

LoveThePenguin said,
I doubt it will change anything. I mean they've only just now managed to implement the w3c web standards. Remind me how long that took?

They're only advertising now that their monopoly is failing. People just mistrust IE, and with good reason, for IE and activex are the gateways most viruses/malware use. I predict in 5 years time that its marketshare will be in the %20-30's if not less, and the more they lose the less people will be using live search, bing, et alii or whatever it's called today.


They've been W3C compliant since IE8. Remember, HTML5 and CSS3 are only draft standards.

LoveThePenguin said,
I doubt it will change anything. I mean they've only just now managed to implement the w3c web standards. Remind me how long that took?

They're only advertising now that their monopoly is failing. People just mistrust IE, and with good reason, for IE and activex are the gateways most viruses/malware use. I predict in 5 years time that its marketshare will be in the %20-30's if not less, and the more they lose the less people will be using live search, bing, et alii or whatever it's called today.

Wow 2002 called, and it is time for you to move on.

Even if you discount all the security changes to how activex works in IE6 updates or IE7, you are completely ignorning Vista and Win7 where IE and all ActiveX is boxed inside protected mode, safe from access to user or system data. (There is a reason that Vista with IE7/Win7 IE8 are the most secure browsing platforms according to any security monitoring company.))

LoveThePenguin said,
I doubt it will change anything. I mean they've only just now managed to implement the w3c web standards. Remind me how long that took?

They're only advertising now that their monopoly is failing. People just mistrust IE, and with good reason, for IE and activex are the gateways most viruses/malware use. I predict in 5 years time that its marketshare will be in the %20-30's if not less, and the more they lose the less people will be using live search, bing, et alii or whatever it's called today.

Quick, get back in your time machine and go back to the year 2001 (or was it 1999?). You might have a chance at talking this kind of rhetoric back in the day. As of now, it looks like really bad propaganda.

bluarash said,

Quick, get back in your time machine and go back to the year 2001 (or was it 1999?). You might have a chance at talking this kind of rhetoric back in the day. As of now, it looks like really bad propaganda.

if they dont want that bad propaganda maybe its about time they change name of their browser?

I still don't know if it was the best idea from idea to have a IE9.0 preview, without a GUI.
Sure, HTML and speed is very important, but what if the GUI is ugly? How many users use an "ugly" browser, even though the HTML-Engine is equal or better than other browsers?
When I look at this website form the article, I have the feeling that for this IE beta MS want only bug reports, but accept no suggestions.

Lastwebpage said,
When I look at this website form the article, I have the feeling that for this IE beta MS want only bug reports, but accept no suggestions.

Well if you are expecting them to listen into customers that hate the Metro UI and tell Microsoft to replace it altogether with something completely different and postpone the entire release, then yes you're absolutely correct that they aren't going to listen to those customers.

...but the ones that have genuine opinions, and have great ideas and suggestions to the road Microsoft is on with the UI... - There is still hope for them. I'm sure Microsoft knows what they are doing, and they will work with customers to improve the UI without replacing it. This ensures a solid release.

In one week we''l know if that famous IE9 GUI leak was real or not.
I still have strong doubt about the genuinity of that.

I'm sure it was real, it's just too difficult to understand the concept at this time. To detach a tab, you would no longer need all that space for tabs in the IE9 window, so you could remove it and use something with dramatically less space to hold your most frequently used tabs in the IE9 window.

DaveGreen said,
In one week we''l know if that famous IE9 GUI leak was real or not.
I still have strong doubt about the genuinity of that.

I think Tom W of Neowin checked with some source and he could confirm it was real.

DaveGreen said,
In one week we''l know if that famous IE9 GUI leak was real or not.
I still have strong doubt about the genuinity of that.

Someone in MS confirmed the shot was real. However we do not know several things:

1) How much it might have changed since the shot was taken.
2) How much it will change before beta/release.
3) How much of the UI is customizable (considering IE's history, probably 'very')

Examinus said,
I'll never get used to American-formatted dates.

American formatted dates simply arrange the date in the order which people would naturally say the date. For example, if someone asked me when IE9 beta was coming out I'd say "September 15th" which can then be written as 09/15.

geoken said,

American formatted dates simply arrange the date in the order which people would naturally say the date. For example, if someone asked me when IE9 beta was coming out I'd say "September 15th" which can then be written as 09/15.

What if I say it as "The 15th of September?" Ooo snap!

/Just teasing

geoken said,

American formatted dates simply arrange the date in the order which people would naturally say the date. For example, if someone asked me when IE9 beta was coming out I'd say "September 15th" which can then be written as 09/15.


Except when you say 15th of September.

ReDFoX2200 said,

+1

+1

Anyone knows if there are other places in the world where the month comes before the actual date, apart from the USA? Just curious.

geoken said,

American formatted dates simply arrange the date in the order which people would naturally say the date. For example, if someone asked me when IE9 beta was coming out I'd say "September 15th" which can then be written as 09/15.

I use: "15th of September", so it's not natural for me. I'm guessing many cultures also digress.

geoken said,

American formatted dates simply arrange the date in the order which people would naturally say the date. For example, if someone asked me when IE9 beta was coming out I'd say "September 15th" which can then be written as 09/15.

Naturally in american english. I would say "15 de septiembre" and that would be 15/9. Anyway... I guess we are used to deal with this things, like the ridiculous imperial units system and the time zones in east or central (why don't use GMT as the rest of the world!).

Looking forward to IE9 beta!!

einsteinbqat said,

Anyone knows if there are other places in the world where the month comes before the actual date, apart from the USA? Just curious.

In Chinese and Japanese you say the month before the date.

julianbl said,

Naturally in american english. I would say "15 de septiembre" and that would be 15/9. Anyway... I guess we are used to deal with this things, like the ridiculous imperial units system and the time zones in east or central (why don't use GMT as the rest of the world!).

Looking forward to IE9 beta!!


I think you're confused lol.

EST = GMT-4
CST = GMT-5
MST = GMT-6
PST = GMT-7

America is big hence why it has multiple timezones.

geoken said,

American formatted dates simply arrange the date in the order which people would naturally say the date. For example, if someone asked me when IE9 beta was coming out I'd say "September 15th" which can then be written as 09/15.

But I'd say "the 15th of September". Non-US format.

geoken said,

American formatted dates simply arrange the date in the order which people would naturally say the date. For example, if someone asked me when IE9 beta was coming out I'd say "September 15th" which can then be written as 09/15.

In the UK, we usually say "The 15th of September" hence 15.09.2010

/- Razorfold said,

I think you're confused lol.

EST = GMT-4
CST = GMT-5
MST = GMT-6
PST = GMT-7

America is big hence why it has multiple timezones.

I'm not. I completely agree with you. but why don't use GMT-7 instead of PST? in that way, I can do the math and know at what time it would be in my time zone (GMT-3).

jamesclarke555 said,

In the UK, we usually say "The 15th of September" hence 15.09.2010

The same here in Germany. Day->month->year.

julianbl said,

I'm not. I completely agree with you. but why don't use GMT-7 instead of PST? in that way, I can do the math and know at what time it would be in my time zone (GMT-3).


Ah, yeh I see what you mean.

But if you think about it from the other way, PST makes a lot more sense to people in the US than GMT-7. So I guess thats why they use it.

Actually the american notation has a great advantage in that it's naturally suited for sorting. You can easily compare two dates in the american notation, whereas you have to do some manipulations on other notations before comparing the dates.

Drunken Beard said,
Actually the american notation has a great advantage in that it's naturally suited for sorting. You can easily compare two dates in the american notation, whereas you have to do some manipulations on other notations before comparing the dates.

Um what?

10/8/2010 can easily be compared to 21/9/2010 in the rest of the world notation

All the American notation does is switch the month and days around. Its not some complex mathematical formula.

Examinus said,
I'll never get used to American-formatted dates.

+2 I'm an American and I find saying the day first more fitting than the month.

/- Razorfold said,

Um what?

10/8/2010 can easily be compared to 21/9/2010 in the rest of the world notation

All the American notation does is switch the month and days around. Its not some complex mathematical formula.

How do you exactly compare the two dates you provided ? Of course, I'm talking from an algorithmic point of view. Take these two dates : 30/8/2010 and 21/9/2010. To compare them you have to extract the different elements of the dates and compare them (no need to go in detailed date comparison algorithms). Using the american notation they become : 8/30 and 9/21, now compare 830 to 921 Comparing the numbers becomes the same as comparing the dates, which isn't the case with the other notations.

FYI, when an algorithm wants to compare dates not in the american notation, one of the simplest solutions is to switch the day and month

julianbl said,

I'm not. I completely agree with you. but why don't use GMT-7 instead of PST? in that way, I can do the math and know at what time it would be in my time zone (GMT-3).


All time zones have their names. GMT +1 here in Amsterdam is EST (European Standard Time).

How do you exactly compare the two dates you provided ? Of course, I'm talking from an algorithmic point of view. Take these two dates : 30/8/2010 and 21/9/2010. To compare them you have to extract the different elements of the dates and compare them (no need to go in detailed date comparison algorithms). Using the american notation they become : 8/30 and 9/21, now compare 830 to 921 Comparing the numbers becomes the same as comparing the dates, which isn't the case with the other notations.

FYI, when an algorithm wants to compare dates not in the american notation, one of the simplest solutions is to switch the day and month


I'm completely confused and that seems quite retarded. Unless you're trying to tell me that the difference between the 30th of August and the 21st of September is 91 days, I have no idea what you're getting at lol.

If you're trying to say that the 21st of September comes after the 30th of August, I'm sorry but you would have to be like 3 years old, unable to speak, and have no concept of time/date to not know that.

At the end of the day it just about what you're more used to. You bring someone over from the UK and he'll probably be confused at first about your date notation. You take someone from America to the UK, and he would probably be the same. Assuming that they didn't know about it beforehand.

julianbl said,

I'm not. I completely agree with you. but why don't use GMT-7 instead of PST? in that way, I can do the math and know at what time it would be in my time zone (GMT-3).

Just curious, when specifying timezones in spoken language (TV, radio, etc.), is there any way to shorten it so you're not saying "GMT-3"? Because that's rather awkward to say, and over here we can just say "eastern", "pacific", "central", etc. and people will know what we mean. Never more than three syllables and, being English words rather than abbreviations, they roll off the tongue quite well.

Drunken Beard said,

Actually the american notation has a great advantage in that it's naturally suited for sorting. You can easily compare two dates in the american notation, whereas you have to do some manipulations on other notations before comparing the dates.

If you want to sort text based date you need to put the year before the month.

Having the month before the day will provide no advantage if the year come after the month and not before.

Silverskull said,
Just curious, when specifying timezones in spoken language (TV, radio, etc.), is there any way to shorten it so you're not saying "GMT-3"? Because that's rather awkward to say, and over here we can just say "eastern", "pacific", "central", etc. and people will know what we mean. Never more than three syllables and, being English words rather than abbreviations, they roll off the tongue quite well.

Don't worry. Everywhere in the world uses local names for timezones. That guy has no idea what he's talking about.

Drunken Beard said,

How do you exactly compare the two dates you provided ? Of course, I'm talking from an algorithmic point of view. Take these two dates : 30/8/2010 and 21/9/2010. To compare them you have to extract the different elements of the dates and compare them (no need to go in detailed date comparison algorithms). Using the american notation they become : 8/30 and 9/21, now compare 830 to 921 Comparing the numbers becomes the same as comparing the dates, which isn't the case with the other notations.

FYI, when an algorithm wants to compare dates not in the american notation, one of the simplest solutions is to switch the day and month

Actually, if you really want to be sort worthy you would use the ISO 8601 international date format. YYYY-MM-DD. This will allow any chronological sorting based on that date, especially if it's used at the beginning of a filename.

20090921-log.txt
20100907-log.txt

will always show up in the right order. Personally I find that date format easier to read than any other notion as there is no ambiguity with the way to read it. (You could read it as YYYY-DD-MM I guess but that wouldn't be following the standard.) In fact, that is the date format I use when I write the date and I change the regional settings in Windows to use that as the short date format (as well as using HH:mm:ss for the short time format).

Drunken Beard said,
Actually the american notation has a great advantage in that it's naturally suited for sorting.
If you want to sort by month.

ddmmyy works for sorting by day but not month or year. mmddyy works for sorting by month or day, but not year. yymmdd works for sorting all three at once.

Anyway, the US is pretty much on its own in that format: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...tions_by_date_format_in_use

China is pretty much the only country to have got it "right".

LoveThePenguin said,

I use: "15th of September", so it's not natural for me. I'm guessing many cultures also digress.

+1
Just to note, as does most of the world.

Actually, if you really want to be sort worthy you would use the ISO 8601 international date format. YYYY-MM-DD.

Considering we are stuck with primative data types and have to work with dates in a specific format. Oh wait this is the year 2010, yes, this thread is where nerds go to die.

+Pointless

Every country does dates, numbers, language, culture different - I suggest we just get used to it, and adapt.

TonyLock said,

+1
Just to note, as does most of the world.

We Americans are amazing at finding new ways to be lazy. "September 15th" has one less word than "15th of September" making it faster to spit out

geoken said,

American formatted dates simply arrange the date in the order which people would naturally say the date. For example, if someone asked me when IE9 beta was coming out I'd say "September 15th" which can then be written as 09/15.

That just bugs me though... I like writing 15/9/10 and not 9/15/10 ...

Chasethebase said,
Should be interesting to see what they've done. Maybe IE will be WORTH using now.

I don't know, whenever they announce any ground-breaking new features in the upcoming release, the other browsers manage to copy them even before it gets released

Kuraj said,

I don't know, whenever they announce any ground-breaking new features in the upcoming release, the other browsers manage to copy them even before it gets released

Other browsers are already ahead of them. So IE9 is more like a catching up so other browsers have nothing much to copy too.

cork1958 said,
Don't want any part of the beta and sure hope like heck they don't rush it to final, but hurry up and bring it on!!

If they make the beta software much better quality than the reliability of Windows Longhorn, which they have lately then advertising a beta can and will pull much better statistics on how it will run on different hardware since it is hardware accelerated.

I would do what Microsoft is trying to do also. Get everybody on beta and continuously improve the software much like Google Chrome. I'm sure the beta is release candidate quality.

brent3000 said,

+1

Should be good and looks like it will fit in perfectly with Windows 7

Personally I really don't care how it looks once it functions fast without any of those normal hiccups and freezing that I experience on internet explorer 8.

Biglo said,

Personally I really don't care how it looks once it functions fast without any of those normal hiccups and freezing that I experience on internet explorer 8.

Bingo.