Microsoft: Steve Ballmer not appearing at Apple WWDC

Reports have been flying around the Internet today about Steve Ballmer appearing at Apple's WWDC, to possibly present Visual Studio 2010, for Mac and iPhone development.

Microsoft has confirmed via Twitter, that Steve Ballmer will not be speaking at Apple's developers conference (WWDC), nor will he be appearing on Dancing with the Stars, nor riding in the Belmont. twitter2

 

The rumour started today that Steve Ballmer would give a presentation of Visual Studio 2010, to help promote iPhone, iPad and Mac OS development with Microsoft's tools.

Many fans might be disappointed to not see Microsoft's CEO, Steve Ballmer, presenting Microsoft software at an Apple event, but the event will still kick off on June 7, and will hopefully still carry the iPhone, iPod and iPad 4.0 announcement.

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Say what?.

If Baller will present in the WWDC or not is really irrelevant

but, a Visual Studio 2010 for OSX is a real news (if it is real but sound fake).

I don't care about Balmer, I want to know more about iPad, iPhone, iPod, and Mac apps created with Visual Studio! This is the first I've heard of this. Is this also in the entirely a rumor, or is there any indication that this might happen?

Actually, I'd still be far more interested in Android apps created with Visual Studio. Eclipse is pretty poor when you compare it to VS.

But really guys... This is a joke right? Was there ever a .NET or Visual Studio for Mac? I mean it would be nice, but didn't MS only care to develope tools for its Windows OS??? Although he .NET Frame work has some open source for CLR... they are not in the business of building Apple a compiler... a Rumor about a VS to compile to iPhone is also nuts since Windows Phone is coming out and will be competing with Apple for ground in the Smart phone market...

Geez who started this rumor... and I doubt Apple would want MS to make a development environment when they are doing just fine c*ck blocking everyone from doing just that including Adobe.

mranderson1st said,
But really guys... This is a joke right? Was there ever a .NET or Visual Studio for Mac? I mean it would be nice, but didn't MS only care to develope tools for its Windows OS??? Although he .NET Frame work has some open source for CLR... they are not in the business of building Apple a compiler... a Rumor about a VS to compile to iPhone is also nuts since Windows Phone is coming out and will be competing with Apple for ground in the Smart phone market...

Geez who started this rumor... and I doubt Apple would want MS to make a development environment when they are doing just fine c*ck blocking everyone from doing just that including Adobe.

There is Silverlight, which is a subset of .NET, already running on MacOSX and Microsoft has expressed interest in porting it to the iPhone, but I think we all know Apple will never allow that...

JonathanMarston said,

There is Silverlight, which is a subset of .NET, already running on MacOSX and Microsoft has expressed interest in porting it to the iPhone, but I think we all know Apple will never allow that...

Yes silver light was designed to be multi platform there is a Linux version I think being developed by Novell called Moon light. I'm talking about having the VS 2010 experience and a compiler that compiles to ARM and potentually be doing the same thing that Adobe has done with Flash CS5... but I think not. Apple is all over protecting and controlling its monopoly on development tools.

Timan said,
We could dream, a ms/apple team vs google would be fun.

That's funny, because the EU would call it an overwhelming monopoly

Ironically, though, Google would probably also find the challenge fun too.

"help promote iPhone, iPad and Mac OS development with Microsoft's tools"

Didn't Apple kinda make it against the ToS to use third party development tools anyway?

Wanyal said,
"help promote iPhone, iPad and Mac OS development with Microsoft's tools"

Didn't Apple kinda make it against the ToS to use third party development tools anyway?

They still could decide to allow certain tools and brand them as "official". But I doubt they would do that with VS 2010

Wanyal said,
"help promote iPhone, iPad and Mac OS development with Microsoft's tools"

Didn't Apple kinda make it against the ToS to use third party development tools anyway?


probably why it was a rumour. And when has anyone known apple to not update their ToS?

Wanyal said,
Didn't Apple kinda make it against the ToS to use third party development tools anyway?
No, it's just against their TOS to use a 3rd layer.. You can use any tools as long as it's native code.

So if VS was doing VB.Net --> iPhone, then yes, that would be barred.
But if it supported Object-C, then that's native and allowed.

Ryoken said,
No, it's just against their TOS to use a 3rd layer.. You can use any tools as long as it's native code.

So if VS was doing VB.Net --> iPhone, then yes, that would be barred.
But if it supported Object-C, then that's native and allowed.


You're wrong in many ways.
>You can use any tools as long as it's native code.
No, they don't allow 3rd party tools.
>VB.Net --> iPhone
>supported Object-C
So what is it? "iPhone" "language" or "Object-C" "language"? In fact neither. iPhone doesn't run Object-C code. It runs native binary code compiled from Objective-C or any other language (that can be compiled to that native binary code). For the iPhone device there is no difference between Objective-C and VB.Net, because they both are compiled to the same native binary code.

RealFduch said,

You're wrong in many ways.
>You can use any tools as long as it's native code.
No, they don't allow 3rd party tools.
>VB.Net --> iPhone
>supported Object-C
So what is it? "iPhone" "language" or "Object-C" "language"? In fact neither. iPhone doesn't run Object-C code. It runs native binary code compiled from Objective-C or any other language (that can be compiled to that native binary code). For the iPhone device there is no difference between Objective-C and VB.Net, because they both are compiled to the same native binary code.

Except that VB.NET is not compiled directly into compiled code. It is compiled into MSIL.

RealFduch said,

For the iPhone device there is no difference between Objective-C and VB.Net, because they both are compiled to the same native binary code.

VB.NET does not compile to native code, it compiles to bytecode which is then run by a virtual machine running on the target device. Apple does not allow those.

Even if it had though, it would still be against the TOS, which states that code must be written in Obj-C, C or C++. It doesn't matter that the iPhone itself runs machine code.

hdood said,

VB.NET does not compile to native code, it compiles to bytecode which is then run by a virtual machine running on the target device. Apple does not allow those.

Monotouch compiles C# AoT straight to native code, works great, runs fast, lots of (good) apps already in the app store that use it, but strictly speaking these apps are against the new ToS because they're not written in Objective-C or JavaScript. Stupid Apple...

Edited by JonathanMarston, May 27 2010, 8:55pm :

JonathanMarston said,

Monotouch compiles C# AoT straight to native code, works great, runs fast, lots of (good) apps already in the app store that use it, but strictly speaking these apps are against the new ToS because they're not written in Objective-C or JavaScript. Stupid Apple...

Yeah, I've used MonoTouch on quite a few apps. It works really nice and integrates directly with the SDK. My organization purchased a few enterprise licenses a week before apple changed the SDK license agreement

Panda X said,
Well of course not.

Didn't take MS long to squish that rumor LOL.

On a side note, has anybody else noticed how much that WWDC logo looks awefully church-like with the white line and all... like they are trying to get people to think "WWJD" and see them (I'm looking at you SJ) in a godly light...

Advertising at it's best, I suppose.

vaximily said,

Didn't take MS long to squish that rumor LOL.

On a side note, has anybody else noticed how much that WWDC logo looks awefully church-like with the white line and all... like they are trying to get people to think "WWJD" and see them (I'm looking at you SJ) in a godly light...

Advertising at it's best, I suppose.

It looks like thousands of useless apps died and are on their way to app heaven to me...