Microsoft: Stop using Google, they breached your privacy

Microsoft, to no surprise, is always encouraging consumers to use Bing instead of Google for their search needs. With a recent campaign that compares Google and Bing search results and previous feature improvements, Bing is proud of the service it offers.

But, when your competitor screws up, the marketing campaign writes itself. A new page on Bing highlights Google's recent invasion of privacy where the company intentionally tracked users by overriding Safari's privacy settings. The page, which we took a screenshot of and posted below, calls out Google for its malicious practices and highlights the FTC $22.5 million dollars fine.

Microsoft is playing the card that its services are less invasive and respect your privacy while Google tracks everything you do and acts as a big brother. Will the tactic work? Only time will tell, but Microsoft is taking advantage of an opportunity at Google's expense.

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wow people here are acting like cry babies.
M$ gets on my nerves and Bing sucks and i use google
but i think the ad is funny and its smart for them to do that.
Its a fact, not a M$ opinion
They aren't bad mouthing Google there just stating reality
and as a business that's their job.
If they didn't make light of Google's indiscretions they'd be stupid.

What guarantee do we have that, if we switch to Bing, Microsoft will not also improperly track us? None. Microsoft is no better than Google, Apple, or any other big internet-related company that captures user data.

STOP using Microsoft Windows. Their faulty software loves viruses, root kits, etc that hackers can steal your privacy and valuable information and ruin you finances.

Google > Bing... Definitely.

Keep up the crap MS! When you make Bing better, I'll think about the switch. Google still offers the best services for me!

Good riddance. The point that I am making is, unless you don't use MS product such as Office, Xbox, window 7 (yes work PC is consider a user), then I am sorry that you are in a grasp of big empire call Microsoft.

EvoFlux said,
Google > Bing... Definitely.

Keep up the crap MS! When you make Bing better, I'll think about the switch. Google still offers the best services for me!

Pot meet kettle.

How much money did Microsoft made from all the data collected through tracking supercookies, again? Didn't they break your privacy when they continued traking you even when you cleared your cookies?

Another day, more childish behaviour from Microsoft.

Wish the old Microsoft would come back. You know, the one that behaved like a responsible and trust worthy company and not some sort of pathetic Apple-clone.

Fourjays said,
Wish the old Microsoft would come back. You know, the one that behaved like a responsible and trust worthy company

When was that?

When everything else fails, attack your competitors. That's Microsoft's strategy. I guess it rubbed off on their newest subsidary, Nokia as well.

Mike Frett said,
Hey Microsoft, stop being a butt hurt monopoly.

That was soo loose butthole !

M$ is not a monopoly they are the under dog in the search game lol
And they should yell stuff like this from the top of a mountain !
Google deserves negative attention.

It really makes Microsoft look bad. Perhaps they should focus on building a better product rather bad mouthing the competition.

Also Google didn't promise not to track Safari users. It was Apple, who on their own accord (and without making Google make any promises) decided to make the 'choice' for everyone not to allow 3rd party cookies. Users did not make this choice themselves as it is a default option in the settings, not presented to users. This decision by Apple broke a lot of websites (such as Google's advertising network, which underpins Google being able to offer a top notch search engine for no charge to the user) even though it wasn't really the user who made this choice themselves. Running the #1 search engine in the world costs money you know.

I'm glad that many websites are going to Ignore IE10's 'Do not track', as it should be a USER decision, not a Vendors decision if they don't want this. If everyone chose 'Do not track' this would break the very foundations that the free internet is based on because website advertising would not be as valuable if it is not targeted and websites who offer content for free would not be able to afford their hosting bills.

I'm pretty sure Neowin would suffer drastically if all of their ad networks had to slash per-view or per-click payment rates because the advertisers didn't see it as valuable when it is not targeted, and affects the click-through rate.

Neowin subscriptions can only cover so much, I don't think that a handful of users could pay to run the whole website.

This is why many web developers don't like it when people gloat about adblocking their website, because you are basically taking their content away for free, not even as much as allowing a very tiny amount of advertising revenue (usually from non-intrusive advertising) which covers the bandwidth and server resources you use when you access the website.

Neowin admins please feel free to chime in.

Simon- said,
Perhaps they should focus on building a better product rather bad mouthing the competition.

They are big company so doing two things at the same time probably isn't going to hold them up !

MS has the most negative response to everything that they build AFAIK. DNT is one of them. They got sued for anti trust, remember. Google or Apple walk away for most of the things they build. MS tried to change the window 8 by removing the Start button. OMG holy F*ck all the negativity rushed in.

Simon- said,
It really makes Microsoft look bad. Perhaps they should focus on building a better product rather bad mouthing the competition.

Simon- said,
It really makes Microsoft look bad. Perhaps they should focus on building a better product rather bad mouthing the competition.

Lets stop right there... Do you have any understanding of the base technology of Bing versus Google? Do you have any understanding of the vast differences in tracking and how information is used for ad revenue?

It is complex stuff, but they do have a better product. This is why they are doing the 'Bing it on' that is a blind test and users are picking it over Google.

They also have a better product in terms of user privacy and a better product in terms of App security and privacy and a better product in Browser technology and privacy.

Just in browser technology alone, IE is a generation ahead of Chrome. Chrome is still treating web content like 'documents' to display and how to display them. IE on the other hand treats web content like runtime code and compiles and 'runs' the web page you are looking at. This seems like a tiny semantical thing, but it is why IE9 and IE10 still beat Chrome on rich graphical RIA HTML5 tests, and as HTML5 and web Apps aka RIA become more common will be a hurdle for Chrome and other browser that have not revised how they deal with content like Microsoft has.

There are several year old tests at IETestDrive that still run 100x faster in IE than Chrome, and all they are doing is moving a few graphics around the screen.

already switched to bing more than a year ago... when the do the ME TOO game with facebook cloning it... (g+ anyone)
It ****ed me off and since then i am using Bing... BTW already changed bing points for MS points, and A LOT of skype dollars...
Also, the results are the same or better, and i am spanish spoken person... btw

iguanas said,
already switched to bing more than a year ago... when the do the ME TOO game with facebook cloning it... (g+ anyone)
It ****ed me off and since then i am using Bing... BTW already changed bing points for MS points, and A LOT of skype dollars...
Also, the results are the same or better, and i am spanish spoken person... btw

Bing is more than good enough. Just wished there were more filtering/ordering capabilities when you search i.e. by date range.

Waiting for Google's response, such as using the current IE security flaw that has security "experts" and even Germany advising people to use another browser until fixed.

And yes I know, Bing != IE, but they are both owned by MS.

what i hate from Google is how Gmail and Google search is tied and it is not possible to unlink it. I don't like how my search preferences and history is tied with my personal account.

Brony said,
what i hate from Google is how Gmail and Google search is tied and it is not possible to unlink it. I don't like how my search preferences and history is tied with my personal account.
You could always log out of Gmail and then search for porn.

Brony said,
what i hate from Google is how Gmail and Google search is tied and it is not possible to unlink it. I don't like how my search preferences and history is tied with my personal account.
You could always go to the dashboard and clear that information....

Brony said,
what i hate from Google is how Gmail and Google search is tied and it is not possible to unlink it. I don't like how my search preferences and history is tied with my personal account.
I was always under the impression that you can disable Search History (which is unrelated to Gmail search).

Edit: In fact I'm realizing that it is disabled on my account (which is weird cos I remember enabling it )

rippleman said,
track my site visits, i don't give a rats ass, and neither do most anyone i know....

I would rather be served targeted ad's for what I want than ad's I could careless about. It will never be an "ad-free" world, so at least show me something interesting!

Bing has been more than adequate as a replacement for Google for me in the US. With that said, it would be nice if Bing had more options to refine searches.

Enron said,
Bing has been more than adequate as a replacement for Google for me in the US. With that said, it would be nice if Bing had more options to refine searches.

That is the one thing that bums me out, why can't you sort by date? They used to have it and now it has vanished (I live in Australia so it might be country specific).

If there was an alternative to google's service with better privacy policies I would switch in a heart beat....until then I'll have to stick to Google

Rudy said,
If there was an alternative to google's service with better privacy policies I would switch in a heart beat....until then I'll have to stick to Google

Bing DOES have better privacy policies. Whether it's a better service is debatable. I think some of it's stuff is clearly better than Googles, while other things (like maps) are worse.

NoClipMode said,

Bing DOES have better privacy policies. Whether it's a better service is debatable. I think some of it's stuff is clearly better than Googles, while other things (like maps) are worse.

I've tried Bing and I personally can't stand it so I'll have to stick to Google.
I believe Duck Duck Go has better privacy policies.

http://duckduckgo.com/about.html


I've heard of it a few times in the past year or so... I really need to set a week or two where I'll use it and see if it can fit my needs

Well Google truly doesn't care much about your privacy. If you have an account at YouTube, it's tracking all the videos you watch by default and sharing what you watched by default too.

oh NO!!!!! that's HORRIBLE!!!!!!!! unspeakable things certainly deserve the death penalty

MsftGaurav said,
Well Google truly doesn't care much about your privacy. If you have an account at YouTube, it's tracking all the videos you watch by default and sharing what you watched by default too.

MsftGaurav said,
Well Google truly doesn't care much about your privacy. If you have an account at YouTube, it's tracking all the videos you watch by default and sharing what you watched by default too.
Because no other company out there tracks what you do with their services. At least it's disclosed and there's a clearly outlined policy on their site.

Do you get that butt-hurt about your bank tracking where you spend money? How about your cell carrier tracking more than even Google? Face it, you're tracked in every way possible these days. It's our fault so there's no reason to cry about it. Doesn't make it right but it is what it is.

MsftGaurav said,
Well Google truly doesn't care much about your privacy. If you have an account at YouTube, it's tracking all the videos you watch by default and sharing what you watched by default too.

I deleted my google account and hence all the services I use are done with the aid of tracking it against an account. However it is hard to get away from google.

I use RSS to download news stories throug MS Outlook and most of the feeds are served by google (they really do get everywhere).

The only google service I use regularly now is youtube. I'd love to not send all my RSS subscription information to google but I have no choice as the websites I get the news from mostly have their RSS feeds served by google.

MsftGaurav said,
Well Google truly doesn't care much about your privacy. If you have an account at YouTube, it's tracking all the videos you watch by default and sharing what you watched by default too.

That's kind of what I want it to do. Often times, I go to YouTube to watch a vid, or watch something embedded on another site, then later on, can't seem to find it at ALL! The history on YouTube (which you can delete too) let's me find the things I've looked at, the things I've liked, and the specific things I favorited into a certain list for relevancy.

Secondly, being able to see what the person you subscribed has liked or commented on is great. I've stumbled upon great reviewers like this, along with awesome music literally just the other day!

I personally see nothing wrong with these features. If you're a totally private person, I'm sure it wouldn't surprise you in the least when I say don't use Google's services. It's really that simple.

Trust me, I'm very much against the idea of Google invading your privacy, but complaining about YouTube and social networks where sharing is the entire basis for their existence just doesn't make sense.

Wish these companies would stop making digs at each other to make themselves look better.
Just be the bigger man and walk away from things like this. Advertise your products and if they are worthwhile they will sell!

That is just not true. Google has a very very strong grip on our digital reality. Hard to see competitor offering when one company pretty much rules the web. Also Google actively poached well trained Microsoft engineers and managers. I say let them slug it out.

Mikeffer said,
Wish these companies would stop making digs at each other to make themselves look better.
Just be the bigger man and walk away from things like this. Advertise your products and if they are worthwhile they will sell!

Like Microsoft did for years with the Apple attack ads over the years that Microsoft ignored. (I'm a PC...)

Maybe it is time for Microsoft to fight for their products.

There is also an ethical angle that deception of the public and exploiting the public is harmful when it is swept under the carpet.

I am very vocal about pointing out how much Google is using people and how nefarious it is. I don't have a product nor an interest in a competitive product success nor the demise of Google; however, I do feel that people should be aware.

What kind of a person would I be to see people unknowingly signing a contract with the devil and not speaking up? (And yes agreeing to and using a Google product is selling all there is to know about you, in a way your soul, that is valuable information.)

Iridium said,
That is just not true. Google has a very very strong grip on our digital reality. Hard to see competitor offering when one company pretty much rules the web. Also Google actively poached well trained Microsoft engineers and managers. I say let them slug it out.
Allow me to shed a tear for poor Microsoft. It's hard to watch a company struggle like that. By struggle I mean spend all that f'n money they have from ruling the software world.

Google has the internet. Microsoft has the OS. That's how it works. MS can take jabs at Google all they want but all people hear is "Hi, pot. I'm kettle and you're black". MS has had it's fair share of intentional blunders.

Microsoft has nothing. Windows is a relic that will die with the PC. Their mobile OS has like 3% of the market and dropping. Having control of the web is pretty much control of the tech industry. Its pretty worrying what Google's ambitions are.

Iridium said,
Microsoft has nothing. Windows is a relic that will die with the PC. Their mobile OS has like 3% of the market and dropping. Having control of the web is pretty much control of the tech industry. Its pretty worrying what Google's ambitions are.
You're joking, right? You really think the PC will die? Everyone's just going to move to tablets. We hate things that have full functionality and customizable hardware? What planet do you live on?

Mikeffer said,
Wish these companies would stop making digs at each other to make themselves look better.
Just be the bigger man and walk away from things like this. Advertise your products and if they are worthwhile they will sell!

I like seeing MS do stuff like this. MS are nearly always the one to just walk away and take it on the shoulder. All other companies like Apple and Google constantly mock MS and it obviously pays off for them. It's time MS grow some balls and stick up for themselfs, especially considering they often have superior products.

Iridium said,
Having control of the web is pretty much control of the tech industry.

No it isn't. Sure, many businesses have web presences, but they do their main work on internal servers and software. The tech industry is far larger than simply internet businesses. Also, you have to *see* the web somehow, and that requires an OS.

Are YOU joking?!?! Cloud computing, HTML5 and associated technologies, ever faster global networks, carbon trading schemes and high cost of electricity, the desire of businesses to cut out costs and the middle man, and of course Windows 8. I feel like Morpheus when he says to Neo "you think that's air you're breathing" and then gives a questioning puzzled look. If you were to estimate a percentage of the time people sit on their browser compared to other applications on their PC im sure it would become more clear to you where we are heading.

NoClipMode said,

I like seeing MS do stuff like this. MS are nearly always the one to just walk away and take it on the shoulder. All other companies like Apple and Google constantly mock MS and it obviously pays off for them. It's time MS grow some balls and stick up for themselfs, especially considering they often have superior products.

Well said, lets liven it up if only for a little while.


I also think about it when I see Internet Explorer 9 Ads. They could have listened long time ago when People were screaming about IE 6. now IE is falling. And chrome is simply a better browser.
Bing is a good search engine but it just too busy. I want to search I go to google and search. on the other hand, at bing I have to see a random Big Background image which will draw my attention away from what I was looking for. some craps at right side of screen with facebook login ... and Its not as fast as google. come on microsoft. you are better than this.

Edited by trojan_market, Sep 20 2012, 3:24pm :

Such as Mac don't have virus LOLOLOL. Strangely enough I think I read somewhere it was Malware. It's too funny if Apple posted an ad with that loser Mac guy saying to PC guys that Mac don't have virus, just malware. PC guys would say "Wow, we got both. <Sarcasm>

thenetavenger said,

Like Microsoft did for years with the Apple attack ads over the years that Microsoft ignored. (I'm a PC...)

Maybe it is time for Microsoft to fight for their products.

Mikeffer said,
Wish these companies would stop making digs at each other to make themselves look better.
Just be the bigger man and walk away from things like this. Advertise your products and if they are worthwhile they will sell!

its not a dig.. its a fact.
And people need facts to make an informed decision.
And people like me have to point out the obvious lol

I am Not PCyr said,

its not a dig.. its a fact.
And people need facts to make an informed decision.
And people like me have to point out the obvious lol

Oh do be quiet. It's quite obviously a dig as well as fact.
The two are not mutually exclusive and i never claimed they were.

Well, facts are facts.. and that article is FACT!... So Microsoft would be crazy and almost irresponsible to not to jump on this like flies on dogs poop