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Microsoft Submits Windows 7 For AntiTrust Review

The court-mandated committee overseeing Microsoft's compliance with a federal antitrust settlement has commenced reviews on the company's next major operating system to ensure it meets the settlement's terms.

The so-called Technical Committee recently received a build of Windows 7 from Microsoft and is checking it for any features that might violate the agreement. Presumably, most heavily under scrutiny is whether the OS causes host computers to favor Microsoft applications over third-party software -- a practice the federal government cited in its original complaint against the company.

The TC will conduct middleware-related tests on future builds of Windows 7.

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I'd love to see actual numbers from the OEMs requesting the N editions of XP and Vista.

No matter what the EU does and the reasoning behind it, the demand for those editions simply isn't there. This is an exercise in futility.

guys

if you clicked on the pdf it linked to, the first line you will see is UNITED STATES OF AMERICA plaintiff vs MICROSOFT COOPERATION defendant

why are you people still talking about the EU?

and if you read to the end of the second page, one of the first things they mentioned was the MCPP, microsoft communications protocol program, and the documentation for it .... you guys are confusing this with the windows xp-n case! thats 2 windows generations back...
maybe its time to start looking forward, like for instance to windows 7 now ... just like what the court and Microsoft are doing!

u wonder why we dont have innovation, as soon as microsoft adds a feature they get sued
if apple did it though, the fanboys would be praising them and bashing windows for not having it!

I agree about OSX, they bundle almost every single piece of software they make and no one cares because of market share, right? But the main thing here is if they are using the same practices as microsoft they should be fined too.

This kind of fines are ridiculous. Maybe US and EU should worry about only illegal practices.

As this is going now, all computer manufacturers should be fined for bundling useless crap. This really is anti-competition because the smaller companies will never have a chance to make their software bundled this way. IMO no software should come bundled, maybe they can include a CD/DVD with shareware programs and the user can decide what to install.

It is good that many of them are taking orders for "clean" computers, but this should be the rule, and not the exception.

it has nothing to do with what programs come with an OS
it has to do with if your a monopoly, and are breaking the law

microsoft is, and they will pay for it
you cant pull that **** over there, the EU cares alot more for its people

If the EU cared about it's people or it's economy it would realize a very simple truth about economics which is that consumers control it with their own money and own decisions.

Your (unfounded) bias is as clear as the EU's. When Microsoft actually threatens the free market be sure to let us all know. Until then keep blindly following the EU, it's what they want.

The EU cares about it's own pockets and nothing else.

When Microsoft actually threatens the free market

Because a company with 90% market share is not a threat? You know by some definitions above 25% market share can be considered a monopoly.

Again This oversight committee is a US thing NOT EU.

and MS was never fined in either US or EU for beign a Monopoly, but for using illegal bsuiness practices as a monopoly, being a monopoly is not illegal.

I don't entirely agree with the competition laws anyway, MS includes tons of free stuff with the OS and makes it easy to use to compete with third party developers, third party developers counter by making their apps even better and cheaper. But whatever.

(X'tyfe said @ #4)
the EU cares alot more for its people

Bull. If it did it would start looking at companies that really do hurt the consumer through bad practices (not just monopolies). MS may have a monopoly, but it really isn't that bad for the consumer.

(winmoose said @ #4.3)

Because a company with 90% market share is not a threat? You know by some definitions above 25% market share can be considered a monopoly.


Who is MS's serious competition that they are supposedly screwing over?

That's right there isn't one because IBM bailed out of the OS market back in the 90's
Linux is getting there (I actually use Linux daily) but not there yet
Macs are also a niche market still


So please enlighten me as to who MS is keeping out of the OS market?

This is bull***
If I made an OS, and I make 30 programs, damm right I would prefer customers to use my programs, more compatibility with the OS and loads of other things, I think its more the EU being anti-trust not MS... This has to be the stupidest argument I have heard, they make the OS so if you don't like it, don't bloody buy it! I would never buy vista but others would, god its so simple yet these idots make it sounds really hard and special

Businesses don't necessarily have the same choice you do. Deciding to switch to Linux or OSX might be fine for you, but try a large scale company that already has problems with deployment and you have a huge screwup waiting to happen. On top of that you then have the people who aren't computer literate enough to know the difference (ie. most of the world) who will get MS products with their computer when they buy it, and not know there are alternatives, hence the anti-trust problem, MS is trying to perpetuate its monopoly through unfair means.

It sounds "hard and special" because the real world is rather more complex than you seem to believe.

"you then have the people who aren't computer literate enough to know the difference"

Right, and that's Microsoft's fault.....

The world is not as complex as you think, and the EU is absolutely not the hero they want you to think they are.

It might not be Microsoft's fault, but it doesn't mean they're allowed to exploit those people to the detriment of other businesses.

Absolutely. The OS alone has a bunch of apple apps loaded with it, including itunes. When you buy a mac they come loaded with llife as well.

Apple is clearly a much worse offender than MS, they even bundle the hardware and software together, MS get in trouble for adding a media player.

The key difference is market share.

(winmoose said @ #2.2)
Apple is clearly a much worse offender than MS, they even bundle the hardware and software together, MS get in trouble for adding a media player.

The key difference is market share.


+1

Oops! Market share is irrelevant. The "key" here is principle. If you're going after Microsoft for doing something wrong and you have another offender who's doing the same thing only to a larger extent then they should be examined by the EU as well. If not, it clearly shows that the EU is biased and only interested in transferring hard-earned dollars from a successful American company to their own pockets.

Oops! Market share is irrelevant. The "key" here is principle. If you're going after Microsoft for doing something wrong and you have another offender who's doing the same thing only to a larger extent then they should be examined by the EU as well. If not, it clearly shows that the EU is biased and only interested in transferring hard-earned dollars from a successful American company to their own pockets.

That is just completely wrong, market share is absolutely fundamental in this sort of case. Competition law is not black and white like other parts of law are. 90% of competition law is about abuse of position in market, Apple don't really have a position to abuse.

(winmoose said @ #2.5)


That is just completely wrong, market share is absolutely fundamental in this sort of case. Competition law is not black and white like other parts of law are. 90% of competition law is about abuse of position in market, Apple don't really have a position to abuse.


So... then Microsoft will be forced to strip their OS of such things as Windows Media Player, possibly Internet Explorer and such while Apple does not, to the average consumer this might make a Mac seem more feature pack, a better deal even. So let MS lose market share and then when Apple has gained some market share, sue them instead. Basically if you're successful, you lose, you have to degrade your product, if you haven't been as successful, good news, your product can have stuff your competitor's can't. That just doesn't seem right, if you apply a law, do it generally or abstain.

I'm sure Google will whine about something....and the EU will stay hush...so they can 'Fine' later down the road...lol

Yeah, that silly EU, trying to protect the free market. Microsoft is just this innocent company that's done nothing wrong, after all, doesn't capitalism mean companies can screw over whoever they want?

Microsoft should just abandon the EU, I mean, why would they even want to trade in the biggest free market the world has ever seen.

That silly EU! Robbing successful American companies because the EU is low on cash! The last thing on the EU's agenda is protection of the consumer. That's the lie they sit behind to make themselves appear like the hero when they are fueled by one thing: Money for themselves.

Don't fall for the EU's crap. If you think for yourself you might realize that consumers ultimately control the marketplace and if the EU genuinely cared about their "free" market they would keep their greedy hands out of it.

Economics don't get more basic than that.

(winmoose said @ #1.2)
Yeah, that silly EU, trying to protect the free market.

I seriously want EU to protect me from all the EU crap like RealPlayers and other ****.

That silly EU! Robbing successful American companies because the EU is low on cash!

What an ignorant thing to say, the EU has fined many companies, largely from the EU, the most recent one that springs to mind was the case of collusion between lift (elevator) manufacturers. See here.

Don't fall for the EU's crap. If you think for yourself you might realize...

I did think for myself when I wrote a paper on EU and US competition law for my degree. As a side note, US competition law is generally much tougher than EU law, so tough that companies really dare not cheat in the US.

I seriously want EU to protect me from all the EU crap like RealPlayers and other ****.

We can all agree that RealPlayer is crap.

This is the US court mandated OVersight Committee thought. so this time you should all be talkign crap about how the US should stop interferign with MS, not EU...

(winmoose said @ #1.2)
Yeah, that silly EU, trying to protect the free market. Microsoft is just this innocent company that's done nothing wrong, after all, doesn't capitalism mean companies can screw over whoever they want?

Microsoft should just abandon the EU, I mean, why would they even want to trade in the biggest free market the world has ever seen.

i wonder why they dont go after apple, they're just as bad but since they're not the ones with the money theyre perceived as the good guys
or go after any company that forces proprietary software
all this antitrust stuff is pure BS, yes its a threat, but they pick on microsoft for money