Microsoft vows to go after Gears of War: Judgment pirates

Gears of War: Judgement, the latest game in the popular Xbox 360 sci-fi third person shooter series, is not scheduled to be released until March 19th in the US. However, reports have come in that the full and final version of the game from developers People Can Fly and Epic Games has already been posted on a number of pirate and torrent sites.

Eurogamer reports that the game's publisher Microsoft is aware that the full version has leaked out a month ahead of its release, and added that it is working with its own security teams as well as law enforcement authorities to, in its words, "... address the situation immediately."

Microsoft also put out a warning for anyone who might be tempted to download and play the pirated version of Gears of War: Judgement, saying:

Consumers should be aware that piracy is illegal and we take vigorous action against illegal activity related to our products and services ... Playing pirated copies of games, such as Gears of War: Judgment, is a violation of the Xbox Live Terms of Use and will result in enforcement action, such as account and console bans

Microsoft previously had to deal with Halo 4 showing up on pirate websites nearly a month before its launch in November 2012.

Source: Eurogamer | Image via Epic Games

Report a problem with article
Previous Story

Video: Legacy x86 apps running on Microsoft's Windows RT

Next Story

NVIDIA's massive $999 GeForce GTX Titan PC graphics card revealed

53 Comments

Commenting is disabled on this article.

Hypocritical of Microsoft to say such a thing. Microsoft is the company that does the stealing from their own customers. They steal actual money.

FYI...not a gamer so my comments on this are not exactly biased. We ( normal people and companies) are in this circle of physical vs. electronic property 'theft' and how to deal with it. Until laws are past or the courts decide then issues like this will occur. Some companies will decide that any publicity is good and some companies such as Microsoft go bonkers.

Take a look at this article over at the verge. It may well decide this argument: http://www.theverge.com/2013/2...tents-monsanto-soybean-seed

Well, this isn't the first game that's been leaked a month-early; surely won't be the last.

And to contribute to the "stealing" argument; it's not. It's copyright infringement. They are completely different, however similar they may seem.

Only 5 minutes and I can't edit my post anymore, huh.

Forgot the obligatory "But there's no piracy on consoles!" comment.

I hope this keeps happening, since every time it's further reinforcement that piracy is everywhere, not just on PC. Sick of all the trash PC gaming gets by insolent people at big companies who lazily slap together late PC ports of their games, if even porting it in the first place.

If you're stupid enough to play your copys on an Xbox connected to the internet, then you deserve to be banned

...Piracy has it;s uses, I'd much rather try before I buy with a full, working game rather than a one level demo.

If you are playing pirated copies of games while allowing your console to connect to the Live service, you deserve to be banned IMO.

Shadrack said,
If you are playing pirated copies of games while allowing your console to connect to the Live service, you deserve to be banned IMO.

doesnt matter. MS still notices when you play games you're not suposed to on the xbox, while you're connected or not while doing so if you connect the box after.

Shadrack said,
If you are playing pirated copies of games while allowing your console to connect to the Live service, you deserve to be banned IMO.

Pardon, when did MS turned in judge and executor like Judge Dreed?.

However, people without common sense deserve to be banned. For example, playing online a game pirated.

Shadowzz said,

doesnt matter. MS still notices when you play games you're not suposed to on the xbox, while you're connected or not while doing so if you connect the box after.

*shrug* I don't know the details of running pirated software on the XBox (because I have never done it). From my limited understanding of the process, wouldn't you need a "hacked" XBox 360 so that it will run un-signed discs (or something along those lines)?

If I were to dab around with XBox 360 hacking/piracy, I would do so on a box that wasn't ever connected to the Internet (unless I ensured that it was properly wiped).

I think this is due, and it's silly to be thinking they aren't going to be caught playing it on their console linked to the internet. What did they think will happen?? lol.

How is all this publicity for the game a bad thing for microsoft? I never even knew this was coming out, and the same can be said for others, now they know it is and will most likely buy it. Also consider that those who did pirate it, they may never have brought it but now when they tell there less technical friends about how good it is then more buck for Microsoft.

Charles Cohen said,
We will take rigorous action against people who steal our product

FTFY.
I hate this bull**** entitlement mentality that everyone has about stealing games and other digital work. Just because you can doesn't mean it's right and doesn't mean you should

Edited by siah1214, Feb 19 2013, 2:49pm :

Of course! If you make something with your hands and someone steals it, you expect justice.

No different with Intellectual Property. It is theft. These people have spent years learning how to create products like this and it's ok for people to just take it? Not in my eyes.

Taking it without paying is theft. Plain and simple.

HardyRexion said,
Of course! If you make something with your hands and someone steals it, you expect justice.

No different with Intellectual Property. It is theft. These people have spent years learning how to create products like this and it's ok for people to just take it? Not in my eyes.

Taking it without paying is theft. Plain and simple.

Stealing a copy is still theft but it's still just a copy as well.

siah1214 said,

FTFY.
I hate this bull**** entitlement mentality that everyone has about stealing games and other digital work. Just because you can doesn't mean it's right and doesn't mean you should

Okay, please tell me where to point to the latest CoD BO demo?
Or GTA4? Sins of Solar Empire Rebellion?

Or wait almost ANY OTHER GAME RELEASED IN THE LAST 5 YEARS.

Screw that, they dont wanna make demos or let us get a taste of the game beforehand, i will pirate it. Simple. Do i like it after pirating, i will buy it. I've bought hundreds apon hundreds of games in my life so far, I think i'm entitled to some proper customer service arent i?
I've wasted hundreds if not thousands of euro's on games where there was no demo or i didnt pirate it beforehand... turns out it was a waste of money. And it happened allot. Eventually I got sick of the empty and false promises and pirate anything before i buy it. SIMPLE.

Dont like it game studios, go make your customers happy instead of focussing on money.

Shadowzz said,

Okay, please tell me where to point to the latest CoD BO demo?
Or GTA4? Sins of Solar Empire Rebellion?

Or wait almost ANY OTHER GAME RELEASED IN THE LAST 5 YEARS.

Screw that, they dont wanna make demos or let us get a taste of the game beforehand, i will pirate it. Simple. Do i like it after pirating, i will buy it. I've bought hundreds apon hundreds of games in my life so far, I think i'm entitled to some proper customer service arent i?
I've wasted hundreds if not thousands of euro's on games where there was no demo or i didnt pirate it beforehand... turns out it was a waste of money. And it happened allot. Eventually I got sick of the empty and false promises and pirate anything before i buy it. SIMPLE.

Dont like it game studios, go make your customers happy instead of focussing on money.

Exactly what this man said. I have a games collection for PC and consoles that includes over a thousand games paid for.

I almost always look for a demo or a pirated copy before I buy though, because of the insane amount of crapware that floats out there (or maybe it is just a matter of taste, because some of the most hot titles for other I won't even demo).

Companies should start to respect the money we give them instead of shoving **** down our throats as AAA titles.

You should be clever and read reviews before buying. You don't steal a car before you buy it just incase you don't like how it drives. Also, I'd imagine most who use pirated copies of games have no intention of buying them.

HardyRexion said,
You should be clever and read reviews before buying.

You got to be joking right ?

IGN and Gamespot give every games by big publishers 8+ best ******* game ev4r. Even the bad ones. Unbiased video game reviews doesn't exist anymore. Do you remember the Jeff Gerstmann debacle ?

The last time i've seen a fair review of a video game by a big publisher was probably 10 years ago.

BTW before buying a car i try it like almost 100% of people buying a car. If you buy a car without trying it then you're the one not clever imo. Before beying a TV i try it. Before buying a sound system i try it. Before buying clothes i try them.

Entertainment publisher will never make me cry. For the most part they get what they deserve. Every games should have a demo.

HardyRexion said,
You should be clever and read reviews before buying. You don't steal a car before you buy it just incase you don't like how it drives. Also, I'd imagine most who use pirated copies of games have no intention of buying them.

No that's what 'test drives' are for.

Order_66 said,

Stealing a copy is still theft but it's still just a copy as well.

It is not the same when it comes to digital copying - you get the exact bits and bytes with digital copying. Unlike Digital to analog or analog to analog, there will be modification and information degredation when it is further copied.

HardyRexion said,
Test drives don't involve taking the car, without consent, from the owner before the car is even released.

So, if they provide a demo, this is a perfectly wonderfull comparison.
If you dont let people test drive cars, how are you going to sell them as a car retailer?

Same goes for games, they spit out piles of crap without giving people a chance to try before you buy.
No they throw a handfull of 'gameplay videos' onto youtube and then based on these videos you hav eto make up your mind, its like being only able to watch the car through the glass infront of the store, ofc the car is nice and shiny, looking better then it actually is.

But you cant test drive it, however you can drive the exact same car, because you friend has it, because he shares his car..

Same for games, they share their game with others.As its the only way to test the product before buying it.

LaP said,

Entertainment publisher will never make me cry. For the most part they get what they deserve. Every games should have a demo.

I honestly see you're point, but I don't fully agree here. Infact I'd argue that a demo would not encourage sales as much as you might think, & may even have the opposite affect; being bad, or even too good. A demo can even be misleading.

I also don't want devs having to take time away from putting the final product together just to cut out a useless little piece of game. IMO, the best thing devs can do is show LOTS of raw gameplay.

The best thing a concerned consumer can do is not buy it until, either it drops in price, or they feel they heard enough to buy or not buy the game.

I certainly see the reasoning behind using piracy as a means to demo a game, but if you play the entire thing & then say, "it's rubbish, I won't buy it", well I don't think that defense works.

Lamp0 said,

I honestly see you're point, but I don't fully agree here. Infact I'd argue that a demo would not encourage sales as much as you might think, & may even have the opposite affect; being bad, or even too good. A demo can even be misleading.

Yeah you're right a demo can be misleading. I remember the LOK : Soul Reaver demo was awful. In a perfect world the publishers would be totally honest about their products and all gamers would pay for their games. Sadly we don't live in this perfect world.

I've seen so many times photoshopped screenshots that did not look even close to the final product. I've seen many times in-game engine gameplay videos that did not look like the final product too. I've seen plenty of questionable positive reviews on web sites showing ads from the publisher of the game.

I'm against piracy but saying it's possible to make an educated buy in this market is stretching it imo. Most of the games i buy i don't have any clue if they're going to be good or not. Most of the time i buy a game because i trust the developer or because a friend i trust told me the game is good.

I bought Diablo 3 and played it for 10 hours at most. Finished 2nd or 3rd act (can't recall) and then un-installed the game. Was definately not worth the price i paid. I bought it cause i trusted Blizzard (i stupidly forgot it was now Activision Blizzard).

I make FAR MORE purchases i regret in the entertainment market than any other market where i can try first and also return the product if i'm not happy.

Edited by LaP, Feb 19 2013, 8:58pm :

HardyRexion said,
Of course! If you make something with your hands and someone steals it, you expect justice.

No different with Intellectual Property. It is theft. These people have spent years learning how to create products like this and it's ok for people to just take it? Not in my eyes.

Taking it without paying is theft. Plain and simple.

Actually you put the finger on the issue they did make it with there own hands. They had to type it on the computer, on a physical machine.

So it is stealing. And yes they have lots of proof that it was going to be a product to be sold. Even the one's that took it knew about it and can't even use that excuse

HardyRexion said,
You should be clever and read reviews before buying.

People want to mount the image/visual in their brains those days! By reading doesn't mean anything!

siah1214 said,

FTFY.
I hate this bull**** entitlement mentality that everyone has about stealing games and other digital work. Just because you can doesn't mean it's right and doesn't mean you should

Sadly it's the mentality of everyone since the beginning of time.

Why do you think companies do false advertising on a regular basis even if it's against the law in most countries ? because they can and because the benifit outweigh the penality (sadly which should be the case).

All my games are legit. I do not "pirate" ever.

But i'll never understand why for so much people it's important to protect the companies but not the consumers. Every time a company acts in a way it should not people just say "hey people just don't have to buy their product if they don't agree". Yeah right great 1950 mentality here.

I don't know about you guys, but I think it's kind of wrong to ban somebody for life just because they are playing a leaked copy of a game. Suspending them for a month would be fair, IMO.

wow.. so downloading a "copy" is not stealing? you are from that crowd? you say "many of which will still pay MS their money to play online" - do you have any proof of this? any stats to back up your claim? Its one thing to just be a pirate/thief but dont play dumb and act like they/you arent doing anything wrong.

McKay said,
They've stolen a copy of the game though. I think the ban is fair.

No matter what RIAA says, Civil law =/= Criminal law.

jerzdawg said,
wow.. so downloading a "copy" is not stealing?

It is in fact not stealing.

Steal : Take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it: "thieves stole her bicycle".

Copyright infringement : Unauthorized use of works under copyright, infringing the copyright holder's "exclusive rights", such as the right to reproduce, distribute, display or perform the copyrighted work, spread the information contained within copyrighted works, or to make derivative works. It often refers to copying "intellectual property" without written permission from the copyright holder, which is typically a publisher or other business representing or assigned by the work's creator.

Steal: taking a publishers, retailers money without permission. And dont give me the nonsense of either bs you are about to spew:
1 - they werent going to buy it anyway, so they wouldnt have gotten the money anyway
2 - they have it pre-ordered so they are getting the money

Copyright infringement is costing someone money so I view it as stealing. Lots of people "steal" music, movies, games everyday and I dont care... but dont be ignorant about it.

What BS ?

Stealing is stealing and copyright infringement is copyright infringement. If you want to call a cat a dog be my guest. I prefer to call a cat a cat.

You can't take money that was not owned to being with btw.

you are using the literal meaning of stealing to circumvent what it actually is. By "downloading/making" a copy of a game that is sold in stores for money .. you can honestly say you dont think money is owed to the retail/publisher? Specifically in this case, do you feel that MS is due money from anyone who "obtained" a copy of this game?

Jerzdawg, I haven't read much on this and it's seems complicated to me, but here I go anyways:

As I understand it, you're say it's stealing because the income of the content owners & publisher is being stolen. Well, I'd argue that attributing lost income to content owners due to piracy is not going to give any real valuation of what said content owners would otherwise earn.

In other words, I'd question whether it's logical to simply take the value of content exchanged on the black market & add it on to the white market. You can't simply neglect that fact that the black market offers the product at a lower price, or in this case, completely free.

If it was as simply as theft, I don't think copyright owners would have grounds to sue the pants off of individuals for more than what the products worth.

Personally I think the buck stops at the original uploader.

how can you not see the lost income? If someone were walk into a grocery store and steal a bottle of soda you no longer have the need to purchase the soda. Just because the digital content is placed on a disk that you purchased doesnt make it any less valuable. Most people who download a movie/game/music are not likely to buy that same thing because they already have a "copy". People can come up with creative ways to justify or even spin legal words into sounding like they arent doing anything wrong. If I download a movie at least I know that I am stealing... I dont try to convince myself that I wouldnt have paid to see this anyway.

But the potentially lost income is a step removed. It's the item that's stolen or the content that has been accessed without permission that's of concern. I don't think you can assume that a sale for the product or service would have other wise been made.

For example, if you were to get a hacked Netflix account which gave you full access with out spending a cent, you're not stealing their income, you're using the service it without legal authorization.

Also this is worth reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...a%29#Colloquial_terminology


Exactly, a download don't represent a loss of sale like taking a soda from a store. It may represent a demand for purchase, which could be conceived as a partial loss of sale, or it could result in an increase of sale via word of mouth PR from a gamer who brags about it to friends, in youtube videos or blogs.

Also downloaded copies, this one being a great example, can result in loss of services or features. MS stated ALL consoles which connect to XBL logging this game loaded up will be banned, even released new AntiPiracy means today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X...system_software#2.0.16203.0

This begs the devils advocate is MS deliberately leaking this to test their code, and of course drive more console sales?
To boot, there is no XBL environment to play in either, a feature of the game that isn't available in the current pirated form.

The music industry has made clear links on the PR from torrent downloads driving sales through unsolicited publicity, and that people who download music are more likley to purchase music, and more of it due to the 'selectable radio' AKA torrents provide for up and coming artists.

http://www.neurope.eu/article/...30-more-music-non-p2p-users
http://torrentfreak.com/file-s...-than-non-p2p-peers-121015/
http://arstechnica.com/tech-po...ts-disconnection-penalties/

I can't believe some of the logic trying to be applied by the people claiming taking something without paying isn't stealing.

It doesn't matter if you only stole a copy, it's still something that cost a lot of money to make and was intended to be sold. You took it without paying for it. You stole it. Whether or not it might unintentionally generate PR for the product in question is irrelevant. Because the company was careless enough to let it get leaked is irrelevant.

And acting like the Company is the bad guy for punishing people for stealing their product is laughable. Because the game company didn't offer you a demo? Doesn't give you the right to go and steal the game to evaluate it. A vauge promise to buy it if you like it is also irrelevant. People like you are the reason that Game Companies often use crippling DRM that hurt honest customers.

McKay said,
I can't believe some of the logic trying to be applied by the people claiming taking something without paying isn't stealing.

Actually the law says it isn't stealing. That's why there's a whole separate set of laws for it and that's why they call it "copyright infringement".

McKay said,
It doesn't matter if you only stole a copy, it's still something that cost a lot of money to make and was intended to be sold. You took it without paying for it. You stole it.

It's like that argument that downloading a movie is equal to a lost sale. What if it only gets watched once? Is it still a lost sale? What if I walk into a department store and watch an entire movie playing on one of the TVs that are for sale? Did I just steal a movie?

My point is that copyright infringement is much more complicated than theft. Theft is obvious. Something that is in one party's possession is removed by another party. Copying is an entirely different matter.

How about this for an example. If I take a photo of a painting, did I just steal the painting?

If you're thinking "yes but the photo is not the same as the original, not as good quality, missing features, etc", consider does that mean that it's ok to take a video camera into a movie theatre?

Again..much more complicated and we shouldn't allow it to be simplified into "stealing".

"how can you not see the lost income? If someone were walk into a grocery store and steal a bottle of soda you no longer have the need to purchase the soda."

it's not entirely the same as that example simply because when you physically steal something at the store that grocery store paid actual money to get it there and when you steal it they are directly taking a loss of real $$$.

where as when you pirate something it's not the same since if you pirate it or not they are not losing any money in the same way as when you physically steal something.

either way, when someone pirates a game/movie etc etc not everyone would have bought it had they not been able to pirate it. so their loses due to piracy are always exaggerated as they just assume if something was pirated 1,000,000 times and it cost $15 then they would say 'we lost $15million dollars' when it's safe to assume not everyone who pirated it would have bought it had they not been able to pirate it in the first place. sure, some would have probably bought it but not everyone.

take Diablo 3 for example... that can't be pirated and i wanted to play it but i still have not played that game to this day (this is a good example of what i was talking about above)

@ srbeen ; Diablo 3 can't be pirated because the way the game works, read up on it. but in short... you would need something to emulate the game server etc in order to pirate it as you can't just simply crack the game like you can with most games.