Microsoft wants Gmail users to switch to Hotmail

Microsoft clearly wants to get users of Google's Gmail service to switch over to Microsoft's Hotmail. Microsoft has been making some changes and improvements to Hotmail in the last few months and today, via the Windows Live blog site, Microsoft's Dharmesh Mehta makes his pitch to Gmail users and also shows how to quickly make the move to using Hotmail.

One of the reasons Mehta has for picking Hotmail instead of Gmail is Hotmail's integration with Facebook. He states, "You can update your Facebook status, chat with Facebook friends, view their updates, and comment right from your Hotmail inbox. You can't do this from Gmail."

He also says that Hotmail allows people to use Microsoft's Skydrive cloud service to share hundreds of photos and files in one Hotmail email message. Naturally, Hotmail integrates well with Microsoft Office. allowing people to view and even edit Office documents for free inside a Hotmail message. Finally Mehta says Microsoft's recent change which allows Hotmail to better handle "graymail" is an advantage over Gmail.

The above video shows how Hotmail users can add their Gmail and other accounts so they can be access via Hotmail. If Gmail users want to completely dump the service for Hotmail, Mehta says that after establishing a new Hotmail account they can use a tool called TrueSwitch that will import all of a user's Gmail messages and contacts into the Hotmail account. TrueSwitch will also forward all Gmail messages to the new Hotmail account for 90 days.

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It's funny. I think I am the only tech-savvy person that uses Yahoo Mail...and really likes Yahoo Mail. I have accounts with the other two, but prefer Yahoo. I get absolutely no spam in my normal inbox; and my spam folder gets maybe 10 messages a day. And I give out my Yahoo email address to every forum and online shopping site.

No thanks. My Hotmail days were over a LONG time ago. Haven't used it in years and have no desire to start again. I find Hotmail to be inferior.

nekkidtruth said,
No thanks. My Hotmail days were over a LONG time ago. Haven't used it in years and have no desire to start again. I find Hotmail to be inferior.

Ya cause it is JUST like it was years ago...

Really?

Hotmail/Live and the integration features with Live.com, the LiveID system, and Windows in general is beyond anyting Google or any other service provides.

One example... I have my own email servers, but yank my email to my Live/Hotmail inbox using my real email adderss as the LiveID authenication.

This lets me have joesmoo@smoo.com with all the functionality of the Hotmail servers.

It integrates directly with my phone, Windows, etc...

Because the service DOES NOT use the antiquated IMAP/POP3/SMTP crap, I can use Hotmail like Exchange works, which is instant, and secure.

Because I have a Windows Phone, I also have ALL my 5GB of inboxes on my phone and searchable instantly, that Syncs far faster than IMAP or POP3 or Gmail's clients can.

So all my information is in one place, and also available to me offline any place or device i choose. Even if I had a WAP or even texting only based phone, I would have far more accessibility and acces to my inbox from Hotmail than anyone else offers.

I also like that my LiveID is highly secure, and is linked to my other Microsoft services, for seamless access to Messenger, Mesh, Skydrive, XBox Live, Zune Market, etc.

You just can't do this with GMail, even with Google owning Youtube, you have to create a psuedo account to partially unify the services, yet with Windows Live ID, I can integrate Youtube easier, and it is a Google service, just like I can integrate Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, etc...

I guess people with Android phones that can only hold a few messages and have to fight through the IMAP and POP3 issues of syncing that it has do not have the experience of having all their information on their phone and easily syncing to a solid online service.

If you think Hotmail is anything like the HTTP email service that Microsoft bought 10 years ago, you have no clue that it is far more than just Email or an Inbox. It is an ecosystem that rivals Exchange and is freaking free.

Enjoy your provider lock, also enjoy if your LiveID gets hacked (which they have been in great quantities in the past and still do), you suddenly find yourself in a position where all your linked services and information are exposed.

thenetavenger said,
*snipped fanboi spazgasm*

I'm thrilled that you're so happy with Hotmail and whatever other services you use through Microsoft. I however, respectfully disagree. I am completely happy with Google and the services it offers me. Microsoft dropped the ball with Hotmail and all of it's related services when Google jumped into the game. Picking up the ball several years later doesn't interest me. I find LiveID to be one of the worst security wise and usually steer clear if it's integrated into other things. On the contrary, I squeal with delight when I find my Google account can be integrated into services I use. My Hotmail account (which I don't really use) has been hacked several times. The password is randomly generated and not used for anything else (complete with special characters, capitals and numerals), yet my Gmail account has never been hacked. Hmmm.....

P.S. I have no issues syncing my Android phone to anything. I use multiple ROMs and have gone through a couple of phones, each time I simply type in my Google account information and everything syncs. I'm sorry you've not had the same experience.

I have,
LIVE. GOOGLE. YAHOO. UNIVERSITY(GENERAL). UNIVERSITY(CS)

I think I just got a massive amount of storage space when I created the LIVE account.
So I am probably going to be using the LIVE account for things

_Heracles said,
I have,
LIVE. GOOGLE. YAHOO. UNIVERSITY(GENERAL). UNIVERSITY(CS)

I think I just got a massive amount of storage space when I created the LIVE account.
So I am probably going to be using the LIVE account for things

I have a ton of email accounts for personal, professional, etc.. Some exist on other services, and various emails accounts my own servers scattered around the world that are in place for each separate group and company.

I link them all back to a main LiveID account, with automated folders separating them, and can easily access email from 10 different accounts and 10 different servers on my main LiveID (Live.com) or hotmal inbox at once, and send from the other email addresses just as easily, with my client software on my Android and WP7 and iPHone and PCs and Mac only having to use ONE Email login to gain access to them all as well.

There is a brilliant simplicity to integrating all your email accounts in one place, and is reason enough to use the new Hotmail/Live.

Getting away from GMail data mining my email and clients email they send to me on a GMail account is rather important as well, because if my company is talking to a vendor or a R&D group, I don't want it popping up in the Google general trend queries they do for themselves and sell to others.

Hotmail is not perfect, but it is good for free, and if ya want perfect, subscribe to Office 365 for a couple bucks a month to get the full Exchange features and integrate all your accounts there instead.

No MS... you'll just have to be content that I use both systems.

Although Hotmail has imporved A LOT... you still are the slob of the two... and you really need to turn on https for the service like gmail. email should be protected considering what info people send in a message. Serial keys from digital software... personal info... password resets etc...

mranderson1st said,
No MS... you'll just have to be content that I use both systems.

Although Hotmail has imporved A LOT... you still are the slob of the two... and you really need to turn on https for the service like gmail. email should be protected considering what info people send in a message. Serial keys from digital software... personal info... password resets etc...

So you don't like them for not having HTTPS to Gmail, yet you let Google read and data mine all your email which is HIGHLY insecure anyway...

Are you retarded?

#1 Reason...

Microsoft doesn't freaking data mine, nor claim ownership of your email content, nor can Microsoft view it or query it.

Google can query all the Gmail accounts and see who is buying what, or talking about what, even if they don't open your inbox directly.

This gives Google inside trading level 'insight' into consumer information and trends, that they use and also sell to avoid the SEC rules.

Think about the power of knowing that 80% of the population is going to buy a hybrid car, or likes a new TV show, or likes a new technology... You could invest, buy into the products, produce your own products, sell this information for direct cash, etc...

The power people hand over to Google as a collective of information is freakng amazing, and makes Orwell's 1984 seem insignificant in comparison.

Google controls enough politician email accounts that they literally have a say in the worlds governments now, because politicians have personal Gmail accounts and talk about stuff assuming it is private, just like every goof with a Gmail account does that has any business or personal dealings...

thenetavenger said,
Microsoft doesn't freaking data mine, nor claim ownership of your email content, nor can Microsoft view it or query it.

And you have undeniable proof of this how, exactly? Oh wait, you don't.

Like most internet bull****ters you're just coming up with things on your own and claiming them as fact.

omg this is funny. lol I just switched from hotmail to gmail weeks ago, because I got fed up with how hotmail would refuse to remember to allow images etc. for senders I specifically tell it to. Other than that, the big stupid ad on hotmail sux, and gmail has integrated FREE google talk service (pc to phone calling). Sorry ms, you lose again. heh

I only use gmail fro my android phone nothing else. Have always preffered hotmail for some reason theres something I love about it.

I have both, hotmail's GUI is far better (gmail is pretty clunky even with the recent changes) and I don't see much spam (plus the new sweep feature is a great idea). I predominantly use hotmail and my gmail account really is just there because of gtalk and my android phone (BTW ICS support of hotmail is flawless and the official hotmail app for pre-ICS is great too).

Hotmail went through a long period of being crap but thesedays it's really nice. I suspect most haven't tried it again

So... really they are just saying "come to us because we integrate better with facebook"?
I'm happy using facebook as I use WLM, not the web browser anyway.
I don't need the Skydrive either.

I just transferred from Hotmail to Gmail as I wanted to integrate with the GMail apps better (calendar and such, although it doesn't show birthdays?). I may look at transferring back, but I'm happy with Gmail for now

Ive wanted to switch to hotmail, the gui and email management is far superior than gmail.. but, the one things preventing me, apart from having an android phone, is Contact management, or rather lask of it.. contact display is awful! Sorry M$ will be clinging onto gmail until you have a better system for managing/viewing contacts!

DrScouse said,
Ive wanted to switch to hotmail, the gui and email management is far superior than gmail.. but, the one things preventing me, apart from having an android phone, is Contact management, or rather lask of it.. contact display is awful! Sorry M$ will be clinging onto gmail until you have a better system for managing/viewing contacts!

There is a Hotmail app for Android...

DrScouse said,
Ive wanted to switch to hotmail, the gui and email management is far superior than gmail.. but, the one things preventing me, apart from having an android phone, is Contact management, or rather lask of it.. contact display is awful! Sorry M$ will be clinging onto gmail until you have a better system for managing/viewing contacts!

I agree, contacts on WL is crappy - i so much rather exchange servers (i manage em) than Gmail but man is Windows Live Contacts (web interface) is such crap! I used to use Outlook to manage them but the sync is sorta crap as well!

I'll switch with two conditions:

1) get rid of all ads. exploit google's weakness where it hurts them the most. email should be free of ads, specially google ads. make this a primary message to the world: get rid of ads. make google look like the spambot they are.

2) please rename it. hotmail just sounds bad these days. call it bmail and toss it as part of bing.

neonspark said,
I'll switch with two conditions:

1) get rid of all ads. exploit google's weakness where it hurts them the most. email should be free of ads, specially google ads. make this a primary message to the world: get rid of ads. make google look like the spambot they are.

You're aware e-mail servers and such don't run free for Microsoft, right? Why don't you try running a service for millions of people for free without some form of income? I wonder how long that'll last.

I signed up for Hotmail back in 1994 before Microsoft had anything to do with it. I started getting so much spam I switched to Yahoo Mail as my primary. Then Yahoo started getting hundreds of spam so I switched to Gmail as my primary and have never had an issue since the service started. I'm sticking to what I know works and that's Gmail.
Just like I've been a member of Neowin for like 10 years and won't switch to another main community.

As long as mails from sender "FiNancial InDepenDence! (stmp1@stmp1.net)" and subject "$379 in 60 minutes working from home!‏" end up in my Hotmail inbox instead of spam filter I can not seriously consider changing to Hotmail

Silly title. Of course, they're competition. All that happened is that blogs have been doing "How to switch to Hotmail" articles recently, so Microsoft decided they should detail it themselves.

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