Microsoft's tablet OS concept UI shown off on video

Windows Embedded Compact 7 on a tablet

Microsoft surprised many with yesterday's tablet OS announcement at Computex. As previously noted, the new platform, Windows Embedded Compact 7, will provide a "compartmentalized version of Windows 7 that can be embedded at the hardware level." It will provide multitouch capabilities, as well as a full desktop browser experience. The new OS will also have full support for Silverlight and Flash 10.1.

The yet to be shown off tablet OS has finally been given some face time and Engadget has gone hands on with Microsoft's latest venture into the world of tablet computing. In the form demoed, an application is shown on top of the OS that looks very similar to Windows Phone 7 and is shown with a social networking focused interface. The demo unit is a NVIDIA Tegra 2 powered slate with an 8.9" screen. Apparently, the user interface was just an example of the kind of interfaces that can be built over Microsoft's framework, but is not what the actual UI will, or should, necessarily look like.

According to what Microsoft has explained about the WEC7 platform, hardware manufacturers will be tasked with bringing this new OS to market, as well as developing the actual interface that it will run. Microsoft only seems to be supplying the underlying builds that will go out to manufacturers. You can check out the the Public Community Technology Preview over at Microsoft's website.

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Wow! You can actually use your finger to scroll and play videos in the device. I've never seen that before!

Sorry I had to say it. It looks good and all competition is great.

cant they do this.
Make a seperate explorer.exe thing which runs this silverlight app that does everything
and you get an option to close it and it reveals full home premium windows 7 for advanced users who can use a stylus with it and do whatever they want??

if ever ill buy a tablet pc or a slate..
id go with the one which has a full OS on it.. else i wont be wasting my money because these slates are damn expensive otherwise.

Looks interesting. I guess we'll have to see what the OEM's come up with though. I'm still hoping for Courier at some point. LOL

Maybe the trick is not for only the OEMs to create UI, but independant software companies to create a few baseline UIs and make them available to OEMs and the general population.

XX55XX said,
I'm wondering if HP would offer this as an option for their Slate PC.

It's a different OS, as I thought HP was now focusing on WebOS based tablets... So I wouldn't expect this. If they release a Windows based device maybe...

Does it have a .net compiler on it I can use? I won't buy a tablet unless that is on there. I have too many ideas that I just have to try right away and can't wait to get back to a desktop, notebook or my netbook.

So long as HP doesn't design their own interface, it may work out. (have you seen their website/oem programs? TERRIBLE GUI)

satukoro said,
So long as HP doesn't design their own interface, it may work out. (have you seen their website/oem programs? TERRIBLE GUI)

And HP's UI has a reputation of being ridiculously slow as well...

I like it. As a Zune owner though I am concerned that there will be very few apps if native Windows apps will not be able to run on this. I haven't read much about the new embedded though, maybe it will support Windows apps?

Also a Zune (HD) owner and I'd like to see the hardware more like the HD, it looks to rounded like (cr)apple's devices the Zune HD is way more stylish!

LandonAB said,
I like it. As a Zune owner though I am concerned that there will be very few apps if native Windows apps will not be able to run on this. I haven't read much about the new embedded though, maybe it will support Windows apps?

Yeah, I'm wondering if this will support the .NET Framework and such as well... That would be nice...

Am I the only one bugged by the amount of Silverlight involved in this 'new' OS? Granted from what I've seen it doesn't hinder performance (although hard to tell when its still in concept phases) but it seems to be that this is just another way to deploy Silverlight more and more. It would be nice if it had a native OS UI, instead of layers of Silverlight.

I'm not saying its awful, certainly better than Windows 7 full running on a tablet, in my opinion at least.

Xero said,
Am I the only one bugged by the amount of Silverlight involved in this 'new' OS? Granted from what I've seen it doesn't hinder performance (although hard to tell when its still in concept phases) but it seems to be that this is just another way to deploy Silverlight more and more. It would be nice if it had a native OS UI, instead of layers of Silverlight.

I'm not saying its awful, certainly better than Windows 7 full running on a tablet, in my opinion at least.

Think of silverlight as a portable, easy to customize, win32 replacement. It's a hardware-rendered portable UI Envrioment. that's what it's DESIGNED to do. Exist in multipul spaces, browser, client, desktop...

Xero said,
Am I the only one bugged by the amount of Silverlight involved in this 'new' OS? Granted from what I've seen it doesn't hinder performance (although hard to tell when its still in concept phases) but it seems to be that this is just another way to deploy Silverlight more and more. It would be nice if it had a native OS UI, instead of layers of Silverlight.

I'm not saying its awful, certainly better than Windows 7 full running on a tablet, in my opinion at least.

I am curious, what problems do you have with W7 on a Tablet PC? I am asking because I use the OS on a Tablet, a "real" one, and I would never trade it with an iPad or these CE 7 powered ones.

^ Mostly because it was originally designed for a mouse/keyboard. Sure they've made improvements for touch, but it's still not designed for a tablet, it just works on a tablet. I assume you're zooming in and out a lot yea? While having all the advanced functions of a desktop OS in a tablet is quite appealing, it also has it's flaws. uac alerts, system updates, installers, task management, spyware, adware, virus' ect. I'm not saying that will happen for sure, if your smart enough you can avoid it. I'm just saying it's possible for those things to happen if you run a desktop OS. Whereas with these mobile OS' they shield you from most of the bull**** out there. Power users hate this, but they make up the minority. Most people need to be protected because they don't know any better. I'd also think a desktop OS would drain battery life quite quickly.

My personal belief is a tablet/phone should be easy to use and user friendly. A desktop OS may be powerful, but it's certainly not as easy to use as a mobile OS.

AgentGray said,
Think of silverlight as a portable, easy to customize, win32 replacement. It's a hardware-rendered portable UI Envrioment. that's what it's DESIGNED to do. Exist in multipul spaces, browser, client, desktop...
I guess when I think of Silverlight, I think of Flash. Which probably isn't fair to Silverlight as Flash blows, and no not just because El Jobso said so. I will say from my limited experience with it, Silverlight is much nicer than Flash. It does allow for a unique interface without overhauling the OS. Too many interfaces can be confusing, evidence by WP7 and its Metro interface.

Xero said,
^ Mostly because it was originally designed for a mouse/keyboard. Sure they've made improvements for touch, but it's still not designed for a tablet, it just works on a tablet.

wasn't Silverlight hardly improved in WP7? It's a main development base for WP7. So, it must work very well with a "finger" input

cpu said,

wasn't Silverlight hardly improved in WP7? It's a main development base for WP7. So, it must work very well with a "finger" input

I wouldn't say "Hardly"... Microsoft added a LOT of features in Silverlight 4, which are clearly geared towards the phone, and some in 3 that were a step in that direction as well...

Xero said,
I guess when I think of Silverlight, I think of Flash. Which probably isn't fair to Silverlight as Flash blows, and no not just because El Jobso said so. I will say from my limited experience with it, Silverlight is much nicer than Flash. It does allow for a unique interface without overhauling the OS. Too many interfaces can be confusing, evidence by WP7 and its Metro interface.

Yeah, Silverlight is a lot more versatile than Flash as well... The more Microsoft adds to it the less comparable to Flash it really is...

I know everyone hates Apple, but does everyone agree that they're the innovators of the industry? I know people are going to reply and say that tablets have been around forever, but come on!

notta said,
I know everyone hates Apple, but does everyone agree that they're the innovators of the industry? I know people are going to reply and say that tablets have been around forever, but come on!

That really depends on how you look at it. All Apple more or less does is take a concept/idea of something that's been out there for some time (mp3 players, tablets, smartphones) and does it's design magic and super marketing to sell well.

So if you want to talk about innovators as far as design and marketing then ok. But the products/ideas/concepts aren't something Apple did from scratch.

GP007 said,

That really depends on how you look at it. All Apple more or less does is take a concept/idea of something that's been out there for some time (mp3 players, tablets, smartphones) and does it's design magic and super marketing to sell well.

So if you want to talk about innovators as far as design and marketing then ok. But the products/ideas/concepts aren't something Apple did from scratch.

So everybody should be very thankful to Xerox... the true innovator....

notta said,
I know everyone hates Apple, but does everyone agree that they're the innovators of the industry? I know people are going to reply and say that tablets have been around forever, but come on!

I like Apple and they do innovate, their devices just work. A great touchscreen, interface and web browsing experience.

notta said,
I know everyone hates Apple, but does everyone agree that they're the innovators of the industry? I know people are going to reply and say that tablets have been around forever, but come on!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WindowsCeAlphaScreenShot.png

Yes, they are the leaders if they have a time machine...

Jan said,

I like Apple and they do innovate, their devices just work. A great touchscreen, interface and web browsing experience.

Great Web Browsing? They why do I have to keep buying/downloading apps that simply do what the regular web sites do, but won't run on the iPad browser?

On a non-iPad I can just use Facebook.com and all the applications it offers or pogo.com and all the applications, on the iPad, these all turn into 500 'apps' to do the same thing other people are doing from the web naturally.

There are about 25-50 good 'apps' for the iPhone/iPad that take the device/technology to a new level, the rest are replacements for what the web already offers. (This is the dirty secret of apps and content and also plays into the hate of Flash because it would destroy the need for 1,000s of apps.)

notta said,
I know everyone hates Apple, but does everyone agree that they're the innovators of the industry? I know people are going to reply and say that tablets have been around forever, but come on!

To be honest, the only thing Apple did was take advantage of new hardware catching up to what has been being done for many years. This the year tons of TabletPCs and TouchPCs were already announced a year or two ago with them ALL waiting on the screen costs, and CPU technology to catch up.

They also have really cool sounding marketing with NLP crap like 'magical' used over and over that plays on the ignorance of the general population that thinks this stuff is new.

They don't notice the people that have been using WinCE tablet devices/phones for years (notice your cable technician sometime, they are even using old devices.). They also seem to overlook the people that have been using and loving XP Tablet/Vista/Win7 since 2003.

I work with far too many companies that send out WinCE phones and TabletPCs for their workers and the workers end up using the devices/computers if allowed for their everyday home computer. They feel like they have a 'cooler' iPad, even though many of the computers were made in 2007.

i demand that they include a pen and show us how writing will work.

maybe they can incorporate one note into this??!!

Wow this looks horrible and people like it, I don't think the UI looks good at all..... My guess is it isn't final but I haven't read the whole article.

offroadaaron said,
Wow this looks horrible and people like it, I don't think the UI looks good at all..... My guess is it isn't final but I haven't read the whole article.

Maybe you should, and also watch the video, it's a quick concept silverlight UI that was probably made in a few days just to show what OEMs can do.

GP007 said,

Maybe you should, and also watch the video, it's a quick concept silverlight UI that was probably made in a few days just to show what OEMs can do.

I watched it, looked bad!

offroadaaron said,

I watched it, looked bad!

You do realize there are probably less than 50 lines of code and the whole UI was developed in a few hours?

This is what makes Silverlight/WPF technologies so powerful is that you can create rather graphically rich applications faster than what old timers could create a VB 1/2/3 application with a couple of buttons. And VB of the early 90s was a revolution in application development.

offroadaaron said,
Wow this looks horrible and people like it, I don't think the UI looks good at all..... My guess is it isn't final but I haven't read the whole article.

Why take the time to post, if you can't take the time to read the article? Which was a whopping 3 paragraphs by the way... Seems kind of silly...

IT IS NOT A TABLET OS!!!. It is windows CE 7 renamed. Windows phone 7 was based on a highly customized version of either CE 7 or CE 6R3. The concept shown above is just a silverlight application running on top of the OS that won't be shipped. Windows CE 7 is targeted towards many different devices ranging from gaming platforms and enterprise applications to cash registers and DVD players.

The good news is that CE 7 is high performing and can be molded to whatever the OEM wants but now they can have the ease of using the silverlight APIs for looks.

joshua.barker said,
IT IS NOT A TABLET OS!!!. It is windows CE 7 renamed. Windows phone 7 was based on a highly customized version of either CE 7 or CE 6R3. The concept shown above is just a silverlight application running on top of the OS that won't be shipped. Windows CE 7 is targeted towards many different devices ranging from gaming platforms and enterprise applications to cash registers and DVD players.

The good news is that CE 7 is high performing and can be molded to whatever the OEM wants but now they can have the ease of using the silverlight APIs for looks.

Why are you contradicting yourself? You say that CE7 can be molded to whatever the OEM wants, so if the OEM wants it for a tablet os like Asus and LG etc why wouldn't it be a "tablet OS"?

GP007 said,

Why are you contradicting yourself? You say that CE7 can be molded to whatever the OEM wants, so if the OEM wants it for a tablet os like Asus and LG etc why wouldn't it be a "tablet OS"?

I'm not contradicting myself. I just see it as a problem when it is portrayed strictly as "microsoft's new tablet OS". People are already saying "that looks horrible" and "I demand that they include a pen and show us how writing works". Do you really want to read blog posts or major newspaper headlines talking about how bad windows ce 7 is compared to the Iphone OS given that it's more of an apples to soil comparrison?


When you say that it is just a tablet OS, its like looking at a sketch of a car and saying "why isn't that car moving, look at that bmw over there, that's a way better car?". I'm just trying to clear up confusion.

joshua.barker said,
IT IS NOT A TABLET OS!!!. It is windows CE 7 renamed. Windows phone 7 was based on a highly customized version of either CE 7 or CE 6R3. The concept shown above is just a silverlight application running on top of the OS that won't be shipped. Windows CE 7 is targeted towards many different devices ranging from gaming platforms and enterprise applications to cash registers and DVD players.

The good news is that CE 7 is high performing and can be molded to whatever the OEM wants but now they can have the ease of using the silverlight APIs for looks.

WinCE was ALWAYS a TabletOS...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_CE

Just because it can and HAS done more than just support Tablet/PDA devices over the years does not take away from the basic features of pen and handwriting and touch support that it has always had. This is the OS that Palm fought against for the PDA market for 15 years, and they were very much Tablet/Slate/Pad devices.

Win7 (not CE) is also a TabletOS, it has all the XP TabletPC features as a part of the standard install, although you won't see them until you connect a Wacom or put it on a TabletPC.

You are really trying to split hairs, and if we were going to do this, the iPad is not a Tablet OS, and Android is not a Tablet/Slate OS either.

DecoyDuck said,
Is it so hard to keep the camera still and focused on the device, Miss Engadget Reporter?

If you can think of her as a reporter heh.

DecoyDuck said,
Is it so hard to keep the camera still and focused on the device, Miss Engadget Reporter?

Yeah, Engadget seems to be the worst with that than anyone else... It's so frustrating to me... lol

Lol @ Neowin - People saying they will buy this and its better then the iPad, are you guys for real? Really I must know? And they dare call Apple fans sheep! You could stick a 1999 phone OS on a tablet and aslong as it wasn't by Apple people on here would think it great and better then the iPad.

Thanks for the laugh!

Courier better? Courier was a video, it never existed.

evo_spook said,
Lol @ Neowin - People saying they will buy this and its better then the iPad, are you guys for real? Really I must know? And they dare call Apple fans sheep! You could stick a 1999 phone OS on a tablet and aslong as it wasn't by Apple people on here would think it great and better then the iPad.

Thanks for the laugh!

Courier better? Courier was a video, it never existed.

And you're getting all defensive about peoples opinions why? Apple fan much? Feeling bitter? No reasong for the kneejerk reply otherwise is there?

evo_spook said,
Lol @ Neowin - People saying they will buy this and its better then the iPad, are you guys for real? Really I must know? And they dare call Apple fans sheep! You could stick a 1999 phone OS on a tablet and aslong as it wasn't by Apple people on here would think it great and better then the iPad.

Thanks for the laugh!

Courier better? Courier was a video, it never existed.

1999 phone OS's probably did as much or more than the iPhone does now.

evo_spook said,
Lol @ Neowin - People saying they will buy this and its better then the iPad, are you guys for real? Really I must know? And they dare call Apple fans sheep! You could stick a 1999 phone OS on a tablet and aslong as it wasn't by Apple people on here would think it great and better then the iPad.

Thanks for the laugh!

Courier better? Courier was a video, it never existed.

No one has said it is better than the iPad from what I can see, go troll somewhere else. Paranoid apple fan much.

I would personally much prefer Windows 7 on a tablet than Windows EC7 or iPhone OS, since I don't see the point of having a tablet which costs an absolute bomb and can't do much more than a iPod Touch. Then again, I would rather spend the money on a laptop anyway.

Minimoose said,

No one has said it is better than the iPad from what I can see, go troll somewhere else. Paranoid apple fan much.

Look 3 or 4 posts above his.

"Far better than some limited use IPAD."

I love the look of the iPad but without Flash and Java it's simply a no-go for me - I need both of those technologies for work, which is the only reason I'd want a tablet. If the iPad supported them I'd already have one by now. As it stands I'm waiting for the next best alternative.

evo_spook said,
Lol @ Neowin - People saying they will buy this and its better then the iPad, are you guys for real? Really I must know? And they dare call Apple fans sheep! You could stick a 1999 phone OS on a tablet and aslong as it wasn't by Apple people on here would think it great and better then the iPad.

Thanks for the laugh!

Courier better? Courier was a video, it never existed.

Well technically it is better than an iPad.

It has a stronger OS, better device support for 3rd parties, handwriting recognition, can do magical things like PRINT, and it also supports the FULL web, no need for 'apps' to get Facebook or HULU to work right.

The iPad is not a bad device, but just because it has the Apple logo on it does NOT make it Novel or the best. MS has been doing Tablet Devices WELL* since 1997 with WinCE and doing a full TabletOS with XP since 2003. (And ya, they work rather well. They are not quite as fast/easy as a mouse/keyboard, but are far faster and more productive than an iPad with only touch.)

*PenWindows has been around since the early 90s but wasn't a great UI or OS because of the Win3 base and lack of hardware and computing power at the time.

DON'T LET OEMS MAKE THERE OWN SHELLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How about this, at least come out with the MS Shell, that has the Metro UI that we can fall back too. OEM's are just terrible at design. These things need usable, people arnt going to relearn how to use devices everytime they pick one up. Do we really need 20 different versions of a media player? Arnt we past this now?

dimithrak said,
NICE.. .. Courier was better!

Yes, yes it was... It's a shame that they don't seem to be doing anything with that...

I think it's a mistake to allow the OEMs to design the interface Microsoft should want something which everybody can recognise as Microsoft, just like the Windows Phone 7 Metro interface or the Windows 7 interface. If they're developing such a beautiful interface for the Windows Phone 7, I think it makes sense to make the Windows Embedded Compact 7 interface similar; that's if they can't make it similar to Windows 7.

Calum said,
I think it's a mistake to allow the OEMs to design the interface Microsoft should want something which everybody can recognise as Microsoft, just like the Windows Phone 7 Metro interface or the Windows 7 interface. If they're developing such a beautiful interface for the Windows Phone 7, I think it makes sense to make the Windows Embedded Compact 7 interface similar; that's if they can't make it similar to Windows 7.

They want the metro UI for WP7 as is and locked because they're going to be branding and marketing WP7 as well. But with tablets that use Compact 7 it'll be up to the OEMs to market/brand and sell. People will see one of these, hear what it can do, and not even know it's using Windows or care that it is.

If MS was going to try and put their name and branding on it like they're doing with Windows Phones then they'd probably would force a default UI for it, but I don't think that's the idea at this point. They could toss in a reference/base UI when Compact 7 RTMs later this year though.

Calum said,
I think it's a mistake to allow the OEMs to design the interface Microsoft should want something which everybody can recognise as Microsoft, just like the Windows Phone 7 Metro interface or the Windows 7 interface. If they're developing such a beautiful interface for the Windows Phone 7, I think it makes sense to make the Windows Embedded Compact 7 interface similar; that's if they can't make it similar to Windows 7.

I agree. Then again, what makes Windows Mobile 6.5 phones bearable right now is OEM interfaces (like the Sense UI) and...well, with WP7S, you either love it or you hate it. There's really no in-between.

Elliott said,

I agree. Then again, what makes Windows Mobile 6.5 phones bearable right now is OEM interfaces (like the Sense UI) and...well, with WP7S, you either love it or you hate it. There's really no in-between.

That is a very good point. They could win more customers over by allowing the OEMs to design the interface, because as you say: people will either love or hate the 'Metro' design.

GP007 said,

They want the metro UI for WP7 as is and locked because they're going to be branding and marketing WP7 as well. But with tablets that use Compact 7 it'll be up to the OEMs to market/brand and sell. People will see one of these, hear what it can do, and not even know it's using Windows or care that it is.

If MS was going to try and put their name and branding on it like they're doing with Windows Phones then they'd probably would force a default UI for it, but I don't think that's the idea at this point. They could toss in a reference/base UI when Compact 7 RTMs later this year though.


I see what you're saying. I suppose I'm just really passionate about consistency and I do actually dream of the day that all Microsoft software uses a consistent UI, kind of like Apple does with its software.

Personally I'm happy for them to allow OEMs to create their own experience, as I'm really unimpressed with WP7. Allowing OEMs customisability allows them to cater to their target audience, instead of everything being dictated to them.

Calum said,

That is a very good point. They could win more customers over by allowing the OEMs to design the interface, because as you say: people will either love or hate the 'Metro' design.

Perhaps what they should do is have a function where the user may switch between the "native" Metro UI, and the OEM's design. That gives choice while maintaining the familiarity.

I feel like Microsoft should approach the tablet space in a similar fashion to how they're going to be taking on the mobile sector with Windows Phone 7... phones.

I think that they shouldn't let OEMs mess with the UI in whatever way they can, but instead develop a UI similar to that of WP7 (Metro) for consistency. They also should regulate hardware and keep a tight leash on OEMs for quality reasons.

Just my two cents anyways.

Paulz0r said,
I feel like Microsoft should approach the tablet space in a similar fashion to how they're going to be taking on the mobile sector with Windows Phone 7... phones.

I think that they shouldn't let OEMs mess with the UI in whatever way they can, but instead develop a UI similar to that of WP7 (Metro) for consistency. They also should regulate hardware and keep a tight leash on OEMs for quality reasons.

Just my two cents anyways.

My guess is that Microsoft wants to put all of their work into Windows Phone 7 now, and if Windows Phone 7 becomes popular they will push WP7 to tablets. I personally think the WP7 GUI is perfect for the tablet.

Paulz0r said,
I feel like Microsoft should approach the tablet space in a similar fashion to how they're going to be taking on the mobile sector with Windows Phone 7... phones.

I think that they shouldn't let OEMs mess with the UI in whatever way they can, but instead develop a UI similar to that of WP7 (Metro) for consistency. They also should regulate hardware and keep a tight leash on OEMs for quality reasons.

Just my two cents anyways.

I am in the maybe crowd, as this has never been MS's style. They create 'platforms' and development constructs for others to create concepts and products on top. This gives HP or ASUS or DELL the chance to create a unique product that works like they want it work and offer more than just a hardware differenced between them and other MFRS.

I do understand the appeal of a more 'closed' environment, as sometimes, more rules create a stronger baseline for user expectations. Something that Windows itself even took many years to offer basic functionality baselines of Applications.

doesnt look too bad, but probably not as smooth as the ipad though, one of the things i hate about the ipad is the limit it has, I hope the MS will be more unlimited, e.g. do the same as a PC can

Looks damn good. No matter what Steve Jobs says, there should be tablet devices that have finger touch and a stylus ...

I also hope all tablets emulate apple by using an IPS screen. Viewing angles for this type of device are quite important.

ObiWanToby said,
Looks damn good. No matter what Steve Jobs says, there should be tablet devices that have finger touch and a stylus ...

I also hope all tablets emulate apple by using an IPS screen. Viewing angles for this type of device are quite important.

I guess some will not use IPS screens to keep costs low, which is a shame.

ObiWanToby said,
Looks damn good. No matter what Steve Jobs says, there should be tablet devices that have finger touch and a stylus.
The problem with a stylus is you can lose them. I know I've lost a few with the Nintendo DS. But I agree, I like the option. I believe you can get one for the iPhone with a special electric tip (or something like that) should work for the iPad too. You can always use a sausage

Xero said,
The problem with a stylus is you can lose them. I know I've lost a few with the Nintendo DS. But I agree, I like the option.
I've not lost a stylus in over 5 years of using a Tablet. You get used to dealing with it, kind of like knowing where your car keys or wallet are.

Xero said,
The problem with a stylus is you can lose them. I know I've lost a few with the Nintendo DS. But I agree, I like the option. I believe you can get one for the iPhone with a special electric tip (or something like that) should work for the iPad too. You can always use a sausage

Using a pen tip to replace your finger and having an OS that understands a pen are two different things. If Apple had a good handwriting technology they would have a pen/stylus with every iPad/iPhone and be telling their customers how important the pen was as an additional input option. Since they don't have this, they down play it.

Xero said,
The problem with a stylus is you can lose them. I know I've lost a few with the Nintendo DS. But I agree, I like the option. I believe you can get one for the iPhone with a special electric tip (or something like that) should work for the iPad too. You can always use a sausage

This is why they should always have a "home" where you can store it in the device... Not doing so is a fail IMO...

It's not final, but it looks very beautiful.
I wish HP was still developing the Slate, so they could throw this 'optmized' version of Windows 7 on it.

billyea said,
It's not final, but it looks very beautiful.
I wish HP was still developing the Slate, so they could throw this 'optmized' version of Windows 7 on it.
I thought they still are and just scrapped Win7 for WebOS? or they completely can it now?

Xerxes said,
I thought they still are and just scrapped Win7 for WebOS? or they completely can it now?

I think that's what he meant... I might be wrong.

The Jambo said,
:-( Can't see inertia in the scrolling.

Pretty much required now to appear fluid enough.


Hopefully the small amount of lag gets fixed. I cant stand that however small it is.

Shows the potential of this new OS. Very rudimetary now, but that will change with more dev support. Windows needed a small tablet OS for the next generation, here it is.