Microsoft's Surface RT: everything to know

Now that Microsoft's Surface has been fully revealed and detailed, there has been a wealth of information on the Windows RT tablet over the past day or so. To make things a little easier for those interested in the Surface, we've collated all the information available into this one article, making it easy to see all the necessary info before you make a purchase.

Specifications

Want to know what powers the Surface? Check out the specifications table below to see.

  Microsoft Surface RT
Product Codes Surface with Windows RT
GSM Bands N/A
3G/4G Bands N/A
Display 10.6-inch ClearType LCD at 1366 x 768
148 ppi pixel density
Corning Gorilla Glass 2
Processor NVIDIA Tegra 3 T30
1.4 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU
Graphics "Kal-El" ULP GeForce GPU
RAM 2 GB
Storage 32/64 GB internal user storage
microSDXC slot
USB 2.0 port
Connectivity Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n (dual-band)
Bluetooth 4.0
Camera 720p rear camera
720p front camera
Ports 3.5mm audio jack
microSDXC card slot
USB 2.0 port
Video out port
Cover port
Charging port
Battery 31.5 W-h
Launch OS Windows RT
Office 2013 Home and Student Preview RT
Launch Date October 2012
Size & Weight 274 x 172 x 9.4 mm
<680g
Price Starting at US$499

The Surface 32 GB will include around 20 GB of user accessible storage after formatting and OS installation is factored in.

To see Microsoft's reason behind the display resolution of 1366 x 768, check here. Also, you should check out the comparison between the Surface RT and Surface Pro so you can see if you perhaps want Microsoft's beefier Windows 8-powered tablet when it launches in just over 90 days time.

Availability

There will be eight markets that the Surface will be available in around the time of launch, and we've collated them below with their respective release dates so you know when it's coming to your country.

  • United States: delivers by October 26
  • Canada: arrives by October 30
  • Australia: arrives by November 6
  • United Kingdom: arrives by October 30
  • France: arrives by October 30
  • Germany: arrives by October 30
  • China: no release date revealed
  • Hong Kong: no release date revealed

Pricing

Naturally the prices for the tablet varies between the different territories, as do the accessories such as the Type Cover and Touch Cover. Below we have a table of all the prices for the Surface throughout the world, and included the premium you'll pay (compared to the US price converted into local currency) when purchasing the Surface in your home country.

Country Surface 32 GB 32 GB + Cover 64 GB + Cover  Touch Cover Type Cover Mark-Up
United States $499.00 $599.00 $699.00 $119.99 $129.99 0%
Canada $519.00 $619.00 $719.00 $129.99 $139.99 5%
Australia $559.00 $679.00 $789.00 $139.99 $149.99 16%
United Kingdom £399.00 £479.00 £559.00 £99.99 £109.99 30%
France €489.00 €589.00 €694.00 €119.99 €129.99 29%
Germany €479.00 €579.00 €679.00 €119.99 €129.99 26%

Note: United States prices do not include tax, however citizens do not generally need to pay tax for online purchases. In Australia, the UK, France and Germany, sales tax is added unavoidably into the listed value before sale thereby increasing the cost. Blame your country for the additional cost of buying a Surface due to tax, as the mark-up without tax is around 5-8% for all territories.

Prices for China and Hong Kong are not currently available, so check on Microsoft's Surface site for your region when they update it with pricing and availability information

Purchase a Surface from Microsoft here

Accessories

Several official Microsoft-provided accessories are available for your Surface that you can buy from the pre-order page.

 

Touch Cover: This one of two covers that magnetically affixes to the shell of the Surface, providing "ultraslim pressure sensitive" keys as well as protection for the Surface's display. The Touch Cover comes in five colors: white, black, red, cyan and magenta. It's included with the purchase of the $599 32 GB Surface, and the $699 64 GB Surface, or available separately for $119.

Type Cover: This cover is only sold separately for $129, and also magnetically affixes to the Surface in a similar manner to the Touch Cover. It improves on the Touch Cover by adding physical keys as opposed to touch keys, which will improve the feedback and make it easier to type. It's only available in black at this stage.

Surface HD Digital AV Adapter: This adapter connects to the proprietary video out port located on the Surface, and converts it into HDMI. The adapter is not included with the tablet and costs $39.99

Surface VGA Adapter: Like the HD Digital AV Adapter, the VGA Adapter converts the proprietary video out port into a VGA port you can connect to projectors among other things. The adapter is not included and costs $39.99.

Surface 24W Power Supply: Naturally this is the power supply which is included in the box, although you might want to purchase a second one for $39.99. It affixes to the Surface via a magnetic clip, making it easy to chuck your tablet on the charger.

Other Things of Note

While the Microsoft Office 2013 Home and Student RT Preview is included on the device at no extra charge, it is not licensed for commercial use. This means if you want to use the software in your workplace your company might need to purchase a commercial license, which is included in either a subscription to Office 365 or a purchase of Office 2013 Standard/Professional Plus. The license will not change the feature set of Office, which includes ARM versions of Word, PowerPoint, Excel and OneNote.

Details for the Windows 8-powered Surface Pro still haven't been revealed, with an estimated release of January 2013; Microsoft claims it will cost the same as ultrabooks, indicating around $999 for the base model.

While the Surface with Windows RT includes a full desktop mode similar to Windows 8 on other machines, it is not compatible with traditional x86 apps that make up the majority of Windows desktop apps. Developers will need to re-code and recompile their desktop apps to run on ARM-based machines, however apps in the Windows Store will always be able to run on Windows RT.

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I am well aware that Windows RT does not execute x86 applications. However, I am trying to figure out as to whether or not the Microsoft Surface and other RT devices are capable of running Notepad, MS Paint, a command prompt to execute batch scripts, and ARM-compiled desktop applications. If the command prompt still exists in Desktop Mode in Windows RT alone, prepare to take my money, Microsoft!

Certainly a cute device, with many similarities to an expensive toy. It can hardly be considered a serious item for the business community, most especially those businesses creating content instead of consuming it.

After having my hopes up for the last few months regarding the Surface, I have to chime in with my extreme disappointment on the product Microsoft is putting forth, this is almost a joke. No wait, it must be.

Despite the fact that the Surface has been shown and advertised in nearly every press release as being a complete package INCLUDING a touch cover, they expect me to shell out an extra $100 for the basic, colorless cover. The ONE THING that made Microsoft's tablet unique from the hundreds of W8 OEM knockoffs arriving in the coming months was the cover, and I'm expected to pay extra for it? Even more if a want a basic color swap? Ridiculous!

To add to that hilarity, they choose to include ridiculously outdated connectors (2005 called, they want their USB 2.0 back) instead of opting for thunderbolt or USB3 which has been available in the most basic of consumer devices for over a year now.

On top of that, I'm supposed to accept a non-HD screen, and for whatever reason the "compact" OS that takes over 10GBs of my HD space. Oh I forgot, it includes a "full" version of Office. As a lifetime user of Microsoft's Office suite, I can tell you that no version of Office is "full" if it does not include Outlook. I don't want your hodge-podge "Mail" app, I want the program I have been using for the past 15 years.

On top of all of this, I still can't take it in the field because it lacks another of THE MOST BASIC options even the godawful Blackberry tablets have, 3g.

I have never been more disappointed in a Microsoft product, and my CIO forced me to upgrade our PCs to Vista. iPad, here we come!

Well said, I couldn't agree more. Just wait until more "normal" people discover this thing won't run anything they want or already have and the downward spiral will accelerate. Pricing is beyond silly, it's as if they want it to fail. I was more interested in the "Pro", but after seeing this, I know it'll be priced way to high so they lost another potential customer in my as well.

lmfao. the 32GB version will have around 20GB only usable storage. that's almost 50% gone to the very compact and very efficient O.S. pretty sure the fanboys are o.k. with this. even with 1GB storage. lmfao.

Albert said,
lmfao. the 32GB version will have around 20GB only usable storage. that's almost 50% gone to the very compact and very efficient O.S. pretty sure the fanboys are o.k. with this. even with 1GB storage. lmfao.

That number is closer to a little over 37%. That extra 4 GB can make a difference. I'm pretty sure that Office RT also takes up a little of that 12 GB, and Office RT shouldn't be considered part of the OS.

I'm disappointed there is no 3G model.
I'm not sure about other countries, but here in Australia a hell of a lot of people catch public transport to work and can spend between 2-4hrs a day on them, and having 3G services really helps with the trip.

Are you able to wirelessly tether to mobile phone?
I don't want to have to use a usb dongle.

qdave said,
As always canadian people are getting screwed by paying extra 5%, when dollars are at par more or less.

A 5% premium for "free" healthcare (although quality is another issue).

DClark said,

A 5% premium for "free" healthcare (although quality is another issue).

We pay our taxes for this healthcare (which i don't have any complaints about). Still its not fare!

According to earlier information from Microsoft, no third party desktop software, even built for ARM, can be installed on the Surface RT.

Product Name: Surface 32 GB without Black Touch Cover (Pre-Ordered)< your order will be delivered by 10/26
Unit Price: $499.00
Quantity Ordered: 1
Amount: $499.00

Product Name: Surface Touch Cover (Cyan) (Pre-Ordered)>Your order will be delivered by 10/26
Unit Price: $119.99
Quantity Ordered: 1
Amount: $119.99


Subtotal: $618.99
Tax: $43.33


Total: $662.32

Rohdekill said,
I'm still dying to know where these folks get off making us believe it costs $100 USD for 32Mb of RAM.

You mean 32 GB of storage? Right? But, yeah, it's about taking a little bit more with SKU fragmentation. That is, consumers believe that paying an extra $100 is marginally worth an extra 32GB onboard. Frankly, I just bought a 64GB microSDXC card for $60. So I save $40 and get an extra 32GB of space.

DClark said,

You mean 32 GB of storage? Right? But, yeah, it's about taking a little bit more with SKU fragmentation. That is, consumers believe that paying an extra $100 is marginally worth an extra 32GB onboard. Frankly, I just bought a 64GB microSDXC card for $60. So I save $40 and get an extra 32GB of space.

Thanks, that's what I meant. That's what I get for typing while on the phone.

The Microsoft Hong Kong website states that pricing starts at $3888 HKD, which is about $500 USD; this presumably means the 32 GB version with no cover/keyboard. Furthermore, it is not available via the online Microsoft store, rather, it is via Suning, a bricks and mortar retailer. Beyond this, no mention of a release date or prices for the accessories and other models.

Svets said,
The Microsoft Hong Kong website states that pricing starts at $3888 HKD, which is about $500 USD; this presumably means the 32 GB version with no cover/keyboard. Furthermore, it is not available via the online Microsoft store, rather, it is via Suning, a bricks and mortar retailer. Beyond this, no mention of a release date or prices for the accessories and other models.
The prices of the Surfaces and accessories are on Suning's Hong Kong website here: http://www.cnsuning.com.hk/tw/...icle/6/92-microsoft-surface

what kind of camera is in the front/back? 5/8 / 2MP? Yes they're 720p capable but I prefer numeric data to descriptive words. Anyone here knows? I somehow feel like they intentionally use descriptive words as opposed to numeric data.

the_gank said,
what kind of camera is in the front/back? 5/8 / 2MP? Yes they're 720p capable but I prefer numeric data to descriptive words. Anyone here knows? I somehow feel like they intentionally use descriptive words as opposed to numeric data.

720p should be taken to mean it takes 1280 x 720 images or 1-megapixel images

Prymitywista said,
Allright, but does the surface have got slot for 3G card? If not it suck.

maybe one day with a usb device? For now you'll have to rely on tethering with your phone or hot spots when your on the go

mulligan2k said,

maybe one day with a usb device? For now you'll have to rely on tethering with your phone or hot spots when your on the go

Surely the pro one can use those 3g usb things you can buy from networks, that'll work wouldn't it?

SuperKid said,

Surely the pro one can use those 3g usb things you can buy from networks, that'll work wouldn't it?

Maybe, but what if I want RT version? I don't have to use any of extras from expensive, pro one. So in the other words, with RT I must use tethering and killing my battery phone much more faster

Thanks for reply, you are super, Kid.

Prymitywista said,

Maybe, but what if I want RT version? I don't have to use any of extras from expensive, pro one. So in the other words, with RT I must use tethering and killing my battery phone much more faster

Thanks for reply, you are super, Kid.

Maybe you should get a better phone perhaps. My old phones would die from tethering but phones using the newer SOCs do not, for example my Galaxy S3 does just fine tethering all day long. The phone doesn't even get warm from the tethering either.

Sionic Ion said,

Maybe you should get a better phone perhaps. My old phones would die from tethering but phones using the newer SOCs do not, for example my Galaxy S3 does just fine tethering all day long. The phone doesn't even get warm from the tethering either.

charge your phone through the usb port on the surface

mulligan2k said,

charge your phone through the usb port on the surface

Don't tell me lol, my old phones did that, my current one doesn't. But good point lol.

Big problems ordering Surface. From within Belgium (and other countrie too says MS support) we cannot access the UK, DE or FR store.

So no ordering for us for now. Order through phone is not possible as the experience problems with their system.

Another problem, I live in Belgium, however i type QWERTY not AZERTY (standard here in BE). There is no option to change the keyboard locale through the ordering process, grrrr...

MS support says that i should all work in acouple of days. But i think i will have to order in UK (if that will be possible) to get the correct keyboard and order a power adapter in DE or FR. to get the right connector to hook it up to the electricity net...

I already spent severeal hours on the phone and I had to use a proxy that hides my ip to access the FR DE and UK sites. There the keyboard is specified as AZERTY, QWERZ and QWERTY with no option to change. However, sadly i cannot order wheb using the proxy...

Would really appreciate a full buyers guide on tablets. comparing prices and a feature differential on the Vivo, Ativ and Surface etc...

Justin James said,
Would really appreciate a full buyers guide on tablets. comparing prices and a feature differential on the Vivo, Ativ and Surface etc...

I will definitely consider writing something like this up, especially after I can get some hands on time with all of them

with the price of almost 2 Nexus 7 (with GPS) and you cant install android/linux, I wouldnt spend a cent on this ****.

Compared to iPad, it has 720p front camera, Bluetooth 4.0, USB!!, microSDXC, HD video out- all very solid advantages. But no cellular connectivity - in all countries Wi-Fi is not ubiquitous. No GPS either. Maybe Surface v2 will have it.

MsftGaurav said,
Compared to iPad, it has 720p front camera, Bluetooth 4.0, USB!!, microSDXC, HD video out- all very solid advantages. But no cellular connectivity - in all countries Wi-Fi is not ubiquitous. No GPS either. Maybe Surface v2 will have it.

many ipad models shipped w/o gps. they are the most popular. according to MSFT tablets with cellular service are a niche market not worth going after.

MsftGaurav said,
Compared to iPad, it has 720p front camera, Bluetooth 4.0, USB!!, microSDXC, HD video out- all very solid advantages. But no cellular connectivity - in all countries Wi-Fi is not ubiquitous. No GPS either. Maybe Surface v2 will have it.

Just get a USB LTE/3g adaptor from your carrier and use it. (or tether..)

The Pro version has a proper digitiser on it, where as these ones don't - so you're limited to rather chunky capacitive styli.

Osiris said,
What stylus' work with the screens on these?
None. I believe that the Surface Pro will support pen and touch input, the Surface (RT) is touch only.

~Johnny said,
The Pro version has a proper digitiser on it, where as these ones don't - so you're limited to rather chunky capacitive styli.

Some of the Atom variants (virtually on par with RT) Asus/samsung/Lenovo come with or have wacom stylus accessories, no chance the screen is more like these and not limiting us to the poor stylus experience similar to the ipad?

148 ppi pixel density against the blurry 132 ppi of the Ipad 2. Will the screen be that much better as MS seem to think so. Has anyone actually seen one in action? I do want one but will have to actually see one first before parting with my money.

andru said,
148 ppi pixel density against the blurry 132 ppi of the Ipad 2. Will the screen be that much better as MS seem to think so. Has anyone actually seen one in action? I do want one but will have to actually see one first before parting with my money.

resolution doesn't matter anywhere as much as people think it does, or apple would like you to belive. most people can't tell an ipad 2 vs 3 apart unless they really look close. and if you really have to look close, then that tells you just how little difference it makes.

neonspark said,

resolution doesn't matter anywhere as much as people think it does, or apple would like you to belive. most people can't tell an ipad 2 vs 3 apart unless they really look close. and if you really have to look close, then that tells you just how little difference it makes.

least we forget that a 'retina' display would give the Tegra 3 a heart attack. Its good, but not that good...

neonspark said,
most people can't tell an ipad 2 vs 3 apart

Source?

The difference is incredibly noticeable to me at typical tablet viewing distances.

HoochieMamma said,
LOL. the Australian price is higher by $60 even though our dollar is stronger. Great work there Microsoft

/s

In case you're forgetting, we have a goods and services tax of 10%. The surface is an imported good and is subject to that 10% that's where they pulled the ~$60 from champ not because they hate aussies!!

ingramator said,

In case you're forgetting, we have a goods and services tax of 10%. The surface is an imported good and is subject to that 10% that's where they pulled the ~$60 from champ not because they hate aussies!!

It says 5-8%, now its 10? why don't like make it 20 and have it over and done with!! haha

Shame the UK only get a choice of white, black or cyan.

How long is the battery life, ARM means it should last ages right ?

WooHoo!!! said,
Shame the UK only get a choice of white, black or cyan.

How long is the battery life, ARM means it should last ages right ?

8 hours

nathanme said,
there is no GPS

also you can cannot recompile your Win32 apps into ARM architecture and run them in desktop mode

unless you're MSFT

nathanme said,
there is no GPS

also you can cannot recompile your Win32 apps into ARM architecture and run them in desktop mode

and that's also technically not correct. you can recompile any app that is based on C++, C# etc that it will run just fine. but you must:
-only use allowed win32 calls, or switch to winRT calls.
-replace the UI with a XAML based UI.
-if you're a game, stick to the proper DirectX version supported by winRT.

so there is a lot of options to port apps. that is exactly how games are being ported and how Mozilla is porting firefox even if is not a one click recompile switch.

ingramator said,
I thought it didn't have GPS in it? It definitely can't have A-GPS because it doesn't have cellular!

Yeah that's a good point. Fixed.

ingramator said,
I thought it didn't have GPS in it? It definitely can't have A-GPS because it doesn't have cellular!

I think assisted GPS can also mean those that download from internet the data needed for a quicker fix.

francescob said,

I think assisted GPS can also mean those that download from internet the data needed for a quicker fix.

nah man assisted GPS queries your network tower for instructions on where to hone in on the satellites, the idea is to speed up tracking in urban environments but I've never seen it used on a WiFi only device simply because you can only use it in range of a wireless network, thus there being no need!

ingramator said,
I thought it didn't have GPS in it? It definitely can't have A-GPS because it doesn't have cellular!
ingramator said,

nah man assisted GPS queries your network tower for instructions on where to hone in on the satellites, the idea is to speed up tracking in urban environments but I've never seen it used on a WiFi only device simply because you can only use it in range of a wireless network, thus there being no need!

No, not necessarily.

This is the main purpose of A-GPS, among other things:
"To supply orbital data or almanac for the GPS satellites to the GPS receiver, enabling the GPS receiver to lock to the satellites more rapidly in some cases."

What you are talking about is cell-site triangulation, which can be used alongside A-GPS, but isn't a requirement.

"Many mobile phones combine A-GPS and other location services including Wi-Fi Positioning System and cell-site triangulation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

eddman said,

No, not necessarily.

This is the main purpose of A-GPS, among other things:
"To supply orbital data or almanac for the GPS satellites to the GPS receiver, enabling the GPS receiver to lock to the satellites more rapidly in some cases."

What you are talking about is cell-site triangulation, which can be used alongside A-GPS, but isn't a requirement.

"Many mobile phones combine A-GPS and other location services including Wi-Fi Positioning System and cell-site triangulation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS

I am aware of that, that is exactly what I said. I said it asks the network tower to give you the current approximate location of the sattelites so that you can hone in on them better when you don't have clear skies ie. urban environment.

ingramator said,

I am aware of that, that is exactly what I said. I said it asks the network tower to give you the current approximate location of the sattelites so that you can hone in on them better when you don't have clear skies ie. urban environment.

The point is that A-GPS can work with no cellular connection. Any internet connection would do.

It costs slightly more to get the shipments over here too (compared to mainland Europe like Frame & Germany) for what it's worth. Not an extra 10% per unit, but still something worth noting.

I'm starting to wish they'd created a 16GB one, so that it would be a bit cheaper (although I don't mind spending the money it does actually cost). I just don't see a need for such a large storage space (32GB), considering I would use a music streaming service (Spotify or Xbox Music) and I would use SkyDrive for all of my other files. I don't need onboard storage, really, other than to store apps and the operating system itself.

Calum said,
I'm starting to wish they'd created a 16GB one, so that it would be a bit cheaper (although I don't mind spending the money it does actually cost). I just don't see a need for such a large storage space (32GB), considering I would use a music streaming service (Spotify or Xbox Music) and I would use SkyDrive for all of my other files. I don't need onboard storage, really, other than to store apps and the operating system itself.

The truth is, they wouldn't me saving any money AND the OS takes up a good 6-8GB so when it boils down, your left with about 8 GB. Leaving it as 32GB is probably the best choice as I don't think they saw any benefit in making it any smaller!

Your points are very valid though!

ingramator said,

The truth is, they wouldn't me saving any money AND the OS takes up a good 6-8GB so when it boils down, your left with about 8 GB. Leaving it as 32GB is probably the best choice as I don't think they saw any benefit in making it any smaller!

Your points are very valid though!

The OS takes up 12GB, there would be only 4GB of space on a 16GB version rendering it almost useless.

How could they have done that? The operating system uses 12gb and the remaining 4gb would quickly be filled by updates, applications and documents. Also don't think NAND memory is that expensive, even SSD-grade: 16gb less wouldn't have changed basically nothing on the final price.

thealexweb said,

The OS takes up 12GB, there would be only 4GB of space on a 16GB version rendering it almost useless.

The OS doesn't take up 12 GB, the MS guy said there would be at least 20GB that doesn't mean that the OS is 12 GB.

ingramator said,

The OS doesn't take up 12 GB, the MS guy said there would be at least 20GB that doesn't mean that the OS is 12 GB.


There's Office RT too to count hence the reason of the 12gbs. It can be deleted but I doubt anybody would want to do that.

francescob said,

There's Office RT too to count hence the reason of the 12gbs. It can be deleted but I doubt anybody would want to do that.

ingramator said,

The truth is, they wouldn't me saving any money AND the OS takes up a good 6-8GB so when it boils down, your left with about 8 GB. Leaving it as 32GB is probably the best choice as I don't think they saw any benefit in making it any smaller!

Your points are very valid though!

if all you do is browse the web and read books, 8gb is plenty.

If Microsoft is saying the 32 GB version has ~20 GB of free space, that translates to ~12GB being unavailable. Please explain why ~4 GB of free space is good?

neonspark said,

if all you do is browse the web and read books, 8gb is plenty.


If all you do is browse the web and read books any other cheap tablet would be fine.

thealexweb said,

The OS takes up 12GB, there would be only 4GB of space on a 16GB version rendering it almost useless.

No it doesn't. MS representative said there would be 20 GB of free space on the 32 GB model after OS, Office and all bundled applications were installed. Also, he stated that the 32 GB is the nominal size, but after formatted it would be less. So, the OS + Office + apps take around 10 GB.

thealexweb said,

The OS takes up 12GB, there would be only 4GB of space on a 16GB version rendering it almost useless.


How can it take 12GB? 32GB shows in many devices as 29GB or so after formatting. Microsoft says that Surface 32GB has roughly 20GB free with Windows RT (& Office) installed and a few apps.

thealexweb said,

The OS takes up 12GB, there would be only 4GB of space on a 16GB version rendering it almost useless.


dont forget you can add a micro SD card (64GB for £40). All media can use this but not apps.

WalterEgo404 said,
If Microsoft is saying the 32 GB version has ~20 GB of free space, that translates to ~12GB being unavailable. Please explain why ~4 GB of free space is good?

II believe I explained in my initial comment: I'd only need that 4GB for WinRT apps, as I'd be using a music streaming service and SkyDrive. I doubt that all of the WinRT apps I care about would take up 4GB.

I haven't really thought about this, so 4GB could cause problems I haven't yet thought of (and I haven't actually checked to see how much space the usual WinRT apps take up), but at the moment, I can't see how it would. This is just a general thought of mine. As Apple have a 16GB iPad, I was hoping Microsoft could compete with a 16GB one, and perhaps it could be cheaper than the 32GB one (especially as the 32GB Surface is the same price as the 16GB iPad). Obviously my hopes were not met and that is understandable.

Edited by Calum, Oct 17 2012, 4:21pm :

Calum said,

II believe I explained in my initial comment: I'd only need that 4GB for WinRT apps, as I'd be using a music streaming service and SkyDrive. I doubt that all of the WinRT apps I care about would take up 4GB.

I haven't really thought about this, so 4GB could cause problems I haven't yet thought of (and I haven't actually checked to see how much space the usual WinRT apps take up), but at the moment, I can't see how it would. This is just a general thought of mine. As Apple have a 16GB iPad, I was hoping Microsoft could compete with a 16GB one, and perhaps it could be cheaper than the 32GB one (especially as the 32GB Surface is the same price as the 16GB iPad). Obviously my hopes were not met and that is understandable.

And the updates? Those could take several gigabytes away. I don't really think it's like on the iPad where a new ROM is flashed with every version, it probably ships with windows updates and updates backups like the desktop version.

Great article detailing the features of the device. It's so unfortunate that so much mark-up is applied to the UK price, and really puts it into perspective, not just for this device, but for everything when it jumps across the Atlantic.

Chasethebase said,
Great article detailing the features of the device. It's so unfortunate that so much mark-up is applied to the UK price, and really puts it into perspective, not just for this device, but for everything when it jumps across the Atlantic.

After the 20% VAT it's a 10% mark-up. There is no need for it, it's just greed...

Jose_49 said,
The first, IMO, that should be noted is that this device won't be able to run Windows x86 apps.

they did, what's why they say the OS is winRT, not windows 8.

Jose_49 said,
The first, IMO, that should be noted is that this device won't be able to run Windows x86 apps.

I thought that was obvious.

P.S.

however apps in the Windows Store will always be able to run on Windows RT.

Are you sure? I remember seeing non-ARM apps in store when I had win 8 installed. Am I remembering it wrong?

Besides, even if there ARE x86 apps in store, they won't show in store on a win RT device, so everything you see can be installed.

Edited by eddman, Oct 17 2012, 1:03pm :

eddman said,

Are you sure? I remember seeing non-ARM apps in store when I had win 8 installed. Am I remembering it wrong?

Apps on Store are filtered based on device, so yes you see desktop apps in Win8 not WinRT

eddman said,

I thought that was obvious.

P.S.


Are you sure? I remember seeing non-ARM apps in store when I had win 8 installed. Am I remembering it wrong?

Besides, even if there ARE x86 apps in store, they won't show in store on a win RT device, so everything you see can be installed.


the non-ARM apps are mostly desktop apps that are listed in the store. Almost all Metro/Modern style Store apps run on x86, ARM, and x64