More mixed signals on Windows 8 PC sales

Microsoft proudly announced on Tuesday that it had sold 40 million licenses for Windows 8 and that upgrades for the new OS were outpacing those for Windows 7. However, two reports still show some mixed signals in terms of the response to new Windows 8 PCs.

On the one hand, the Wall Street Journal reports that Asus doesn't appear to be pleased with the launch of its Windows 8 products. Its chief financial officer David Chang is quoted as saying, "Demand for Windows 8 is not that good right now." He would not go into specifics on sales of its Windows 8 products. This week, Asus delayed the launch of one of the more interesting Windows 8 notebooks, the dual screen Taichi, until further notice.

On the other hand, Forbes reports that other PC makers might have had better luck, thanks in part to price cuts for Black Friday sales. Global Equities Research analyst Trip Chowdhry said that Microsoft Stores sold out of Acer's Aspire V5 notebook, which it priced at $399. Chowdhry said that each Microsoft Store location had about 500 units of the notebook and they "were completely sold out within the first 30 minutes."

He added that Microsoft Stores also sold out of a more expensive $1,500 Sony Vaio touch screen Ultrabook with Windows 8 during Black Friday. Dell also apparently had high demand for the Dell’s XPS One 27-inch all-in-one PC during the sales period.

However, it sounds like Microsoft's Surface tablet might be suffering from the fact that it only runs Windows RT and not Windows 8. Chowdhry said, "Had Microsoft first shipped Surface on Intel chips vs. on ARM chips, sales of Surface would have been 5X better than current levels."

Source: Wall Street Journal and Forbes | Image via Asus

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Man, the battle lines sure are drawn around here. You can clearly see the divide with people that hate Win 8 and those that dont. Each side will take every news item like this and proclaim it as the evidence that supports their opinion. Its crazy how far people go.

As far as the article, I have to say that Asus has been slow to release new devices for win 8. Their tablets are especially disappointing. We have been lucky to get our hands on 32GB RT tablets from vendors. Almost all of the other models Asus is offering for win 8 are either out of stock or very small quantity. that makes it very hard for us to sell it to our customers.

Unfortunately, Asus isn't the only one dragging its feet. OEM simply aren't getting the product out there for us to sell to customers. Asus, Samsung, and MS are the only ones that have product you can actually buy tablet wise (which means Asus and Samsung since Surface is limited to the MS Stores). Lenovo and Acer seem to be struggling to cross the finish line with tablets. Beyond tablets, there is also a shortage of all in one models

w8 will not make MS any money. they sell for $15 and would be a lose for MS in long run. with huge negative towards w8 not a lot of paying enterprise customer. overall it will be a lose for MS.

What he really means is that demands for Asus product are not great right now. Perhaps if Asus made more innovative products they'd sell better.

Windows 8 sold 40 million copies in 30 days - so it has now roughly the same number of users as it took Apple 30 years to achieve. Seems to me to be selling OK.

Its not because of Windows 8 that they are not selling, iys because they all make crap products wit high prices, Im sure they could have a similar price as the google crap same but with the added licensing for winrt or 8, but instead they jack the prices up quite a bit. No one to blame but themselves.

The problem is most companies do not have their good windows 8 tablets and pcs for sale yet so how can they say the demand is not there.

First up the leading tablets are hard to come by. Demand sucks because Asus didn't want any. Actually, everywhere I look online these new tablets are sold out. Amazon has like three reviews, something does fit.

I think some of these manufactures are just rehashing old laptop ideas till they are ready to create the demand need to drive Windows 8.

Seems a little bit dirty/suspicious to me. Asus selling Nexus 7 with Google, never delivers the Transformer Book, Taichi, or VivoTab they promised then complains about demand for Windows 8 being low?

I was interested in Asus tablets running Windows 8, the problem is that Asus is not actually delivering them to market to buy in the first place.

Avatar Roku said,
Seems a little bit dirty/suspicious to me. Asus selling Nexus 7 with Google, never delivers the Transformer Book, Taichi, or VivoTab they promised then complains about demand for Windows 8 being low?

I was interested in Asus tablets running Windows 8, the problem is that Asus is not actually delivering them to market to buy in the first place.

Or it could just be that Windows 8 blows, nobody wants it and sales of products running Windows 8 and Metro are so low that it doesn't make financial sense for ASUS to release it.

How interesting...you delay the launch of some of your product and line and supply limited quantities or other portions...and then say demand is low.

You can't sell products that you aren't releasing...so of course demand is going to appear low in that case.

On the other hand I've spent time in stores watching the newer Win8 stuff being sold at a very nice rate.

Shane Nokes said,
How interesting...you delay the launch of some of your product and line and supply limited quantities or other portions...and then say demand is low.

You can't sell products that you aren't releasing...so of course demand is going to appear low in that case.

On the other hand I've spent time in stores watching the newer Win8 stuff being sold at a very nice rate.

What exactly does " a very nice rate" mean anyway? Is it "an average rate of sale" an instantaneous rate, a flux rate? Is either in numbers or you don't know anything. A rate is a ratio, and that needs numbers...I hope you are not in sales or programming.. you can't be!

I am a Windows 8 fan #sarcasm

Shane Nokes said,
How interesting...you delay the launch of some of your product and line and supply limited quantities or other portions...and then say demand is low.

Rubbish. while the Taichi got a lot of free publicity on the intel ads, no one wants Windows 8, so its pointless for Asus to make a lot of hardware that won't sell and no one wants.

So what, increased sales because of the deals of Black Friday? Well, lets see if W8 sales are the next several weeks. Discounts new PC owners got....like myself...probably helped sales to. But anyway, would like to see more of a breakdown of sales.

maybe people are upgrading windows instead of buying the older half assed pc models with w8 installed because these OEMS cant get their heads out of their asses and get the new hardware out.

Had Microsoft sold the surface with intel chips it'd be twice the price... Windows 8 is hard to justify upgrading to when Windows 7 works flawlessly. I upgraded to Windows 8 on my laptop and kept Windows 7 on my desktop. Can't say I want to upgrade my desktop to Windows 8.

RedFlow said,
Had Microsoft sold the surface with intel chips it'd be twice the price... Windows 8 is hard to justify upgrading to when Windows 7 works flawlessly. I upgraded to Windows 8 on my laptop and kept Windows 7 on my desktop. Can't say I want to upgrade my desktop to Windows 8.

I bought a copy of W8 at the discounted new PC price but have no plans on upgrading. I have the trial loaded on a spare laptop tho.

RedFlow said,
Had Microsoft sold the surface with intel chips it'd be twice the price... Windows 8 is hard to justify upgrading to when Windows 7 works flawlessly. I upgraded to Windows 8 on my laptop and kept Windows 7 on my desktop. Can't say I want to upgrade my desktop to Windows 8.

Hard to *justify*? As in, if a person chooses to upgrade, they would have trouble explaining why they did it?

Because there are a ton of improvements, even from a purely desktop and back end perspective, in Windows 8. Even being a metro hold-out and using a third party start menu tool would give you a Windows experience improved enough over Windows 7 to 'justify' the trivial upgrade cost this time around.

I, personally, don't find it hard at all.

/thatswhatshesaid

KSib said,
Well, at the end of the day it really doesn't matter what we think if the sales numbers don't back it up.

Was talking more in terms of upgrades compared to full, tablets compared to PCs/non touch devices. Yea, doesnt matter what we think....I am just curious.

RedFlow said,
Had Microsoft sold the surface with intel chips it'd be twice the price... Windows 8 is hard to justify upgrading to when Windows 7 works flawlessly. I upgraded to Windows 8 on my laptop and kept Windows 7 on my desktop. Can't say I want to upgrade my desktop to Windows 8.

Agreed, I would be willing to buy and use a tablet or touch laptop with Windows 8, but I'd never put it on any of my desktops as it is right now.

RedFlow said,
Had Microsoft sold the surface with intel chips it'd be twice the price... Windows 8 is hard to justify upgrading to when Windows 7 works flawlessly. I upgraded to Windows 8 on my laptop and kept Windows 7 on my desktop. Can't say I want to upgrade my desktop to Windows 8.

(edit) sorry I went well off on a tangent then, in regard to your original post)

The same (similar) could be said about Vista - Win7 at that time, most 'issues' with vista were well and truly dealt with by then and a lot of people were still rocking the 'rock solid' winXP, but the massive wave of vista pre sp1 hate (not just sp1 but drivers etc for a myriad of reasons) could not be stopped, plus some just either saw it as a cool off period or a hard sell on upgrade (I'm mainly talking about companies getting the green light for upgrades).

Win 7 came along and is a kind of saviour OS, as in the one before it was slammed even though sales say different and after a service pack and a bit of driver maturity time things were honky dory with vista (still support a few hundred installs and can tell you now its absolutely fine).

Windows 8 though, its what was needed - and the issue here is a lot of people cant see this. I really think MS are bang on the money with their strategy here in that you have an ecosystem/store that serves multiple devices, you buy on your tablet/laptop/PC and you can use on all - you can use that app still if you simply get a friend to create you an account on their PC/laptop/tablet (MS Account), this is a massive deal for me and I think once this realisation trickles down (buy something once, use everywhere) it'll be a revelation.

Joshie said,
Hard to *justify*? As in, if a person chooses to upgrade, they would have trouble explaining why they did it?

yep, so many people upgrading, then removing Win 8 and going back to Win 7. They probably feel foolish that they were sucked in by Microsoft hype.

No doubt the next "spin" we'll hear from Microsoft is that "no one is buying desktops or desktop operating system's anymore"

Yes Microsoft - that's because you don't have one worth buying!!!