Neowin Hands-on: Windows Phone 7 review

Tech Ed NZ 2010 is in full swing and during all the hustle and bustle, Neowin was able to take an exclusive hands on look at a prototype Windows Phone 7 device running the Windows Phone operating system.

Microsoft was at a loss when the original iPhone was released, it’s Windows Mobile platform was years behind at best, and needed to do huge amounts of catching up to be competitive. A few new versions of the iPhone were released, as well as Google’s Android Mobile OS, and Microsoft was left in the dust.

Then, earlier this year, Microsoft announced it’s successor to the Windows Mobile platform – still based on Windows CE, but entirely incompatible with the previous platform. The Redmond software company is reportedly pouring almost a billion dollars into the platform and plans to “make it succeed.”

Enter Windows Phone 7, a new, unique phone experience.

First Impressions:

Even on the prototype device, the OS really stands out among the crowd. It’s bold and bright, boasting a user interface that’s unique among the smartphone crowd. As soon as you pick the device up and start using it (keeping in mind it’s prototype hardware) the device feels fast, responsive, and ready to do whatever you throw at it.

The platform has come a long way since its initial release, being much more responsive and has new UI features which help the experience overall. It seems the little things count. Icons which are reactive to events, efficiency of screen use, and subtle notifications are good examples.

On picking up the phone for the first time, I wasn’t confused by where anything was, and could navigate around easily. The most apparent thing wasn’t any feature of user interface though, it was the sheer speed of the device.

It woke up, wasn’t groggy or slow, and screamed along when anything was being done.

The next thing I immediately noticed was how simple, clean, and effective the home screen was. Tiles are used instead of widgets, and the majority of them perform some sort of animation which grabs your attention.

The tiles on the home screen lead to hubs or applications which give a richer experience, with the tiles being an overview of what’s inside. When you open a hub, you’re presented with a beautiful, clean panoramic mode, which makes use of hints (such as oversized text or arrows) to let you know there’s more information if you just swipe across.

Contacts

Windows Phone 7 is centered around people, being able to find information about them in a central location without hunting and seeking, and moving away from the “one app for each task” mindset.

The OS is designed in a manner that there’s no need to go directly to a “Facebook” application to do certain actions, then jump somewhere else to do another task. You can just open the people hub and it’s all in one place.

From here, you can write on their wall, make comments on posts such as their status or photos, or even initialize an email. It’s all aggregated into one, central location, technically eradicating the need for a separate app for Facebook or Windows Live.

Obviously, if you’ve got a large group of people as friends on Facebook, it’s likely that a large group of them aren’t actually friends, but more of acquaintances – and you likely don’t want these in your people list – unfortunately, at this stage, there’s no way to pick and choose (or even specify that you don’t want Facebook contacts without logging out completely).

On first use of the people hub, there was one service that’s obviously missing – Twitter – Microsoft is being relatively tight lipped about it, but be assured, Windows Phone 7 will be getting Twitter sometime after launch.

Email & Account Integration

Windows Phone will take almost any account you throw at it (except Twitter), including Windows Live, Gmail, Exchange, Yahoo! and any IMAP or POP3 enabled account.

The email integration is clean and attractive, but is lacking threaded messaging which is disappointing. Each email is represented individually and it’s not clear if Microsoft will change this in the future.

Other reviews have mentioned that they’re disappointed that there’s no “unified inbox” and while this is a disappointment, it’s not necessary. As a phone user, I prefer my accounts to be separate; I’m not sure I actually want my personal email account and work one in a unified place. That said, it could be handy.

On a side note, the first thing that’s requested when WP7 starts up is a Windows Live account. This isn’t necessary, but not having an account would severely limit WP7’s potential, as it’s designed to be always online and connected.

Messaging

The SMS application is brilliant, has excellent message threading, and integrated MMS viewing. It doesn’t have an obvious way to define who the message is from (i.e yourself or the other person) such as alternating colours, but uses a subtler method.

To define who the message is from, the speech bubbles point to the top (towards their name), indicating the other party, or point to the bottom to show it’s from you.

Maps

As an Android user, I’m used to Google Maps and it’s general look and feel. Bing Maps is a game changer and offers a smooth user experience which really fits in with the entire Windows Phone 7 look and feel.

As with other map applications, GPS is available, though we were unable to test it during the review as it was performed inside.

As you zoom in and the maps load, they don’t load in random chunks like other maps applications, but instead fade in gradually. Soon, when you’ve almost reached the zoom limit, you’ll end up in “street view” mode automatically, showing a satellite view of the area. This is better explained in video:

Office Integration

The Microsoft Office portion of the platform has stayed relatively the same since the device was launched, with various UI tweaks around the place. Microsoft Word, Powerpoint, Excel and Onenote are the products offered here, as well as heavy Sharepoint collaboration integration

Onenote features cloud synchronization, which is automatic and fast. In a demonstration at Tech Ed, a Onenote document was edited and synched within minutes and was viewable from a desktop PC using the web version of Onenote.

Just to point out though, you can create documents in each application except Powerpoint. The Powerpoint application is only for viewing presentations – which it does well – the presentations retain all custom animations and transitions.

Browser

Unfortunately we didn’t get any pictures of the browser, but there are two features worth noting:

First up are browser tabs. Tabs in Windows Phone fit in with the entire experience and are easy to use.

The second of these being the ability to pin a website to the home screen, and even offering a little screenshot of the page, which is handy.

Frustratingly, flash and Silverlight won’t be available at launch, but will be added at a later date. Flash we’re OK with, but we’re a little bit lost as to why Silverlight isn’t supported, yet it’s used so widely throughout the entire OS. It doesn’t make sense, and you’d think it’d be critical to have this in the launch product.

In addition to this, I couldn’t figure out why there was no Youtube application. Considering HTML5 video doesn’t work, nor flash or Silverlight, it seems there’s no way to stream video at all. We’re hoping this gets fixed in time for release. It seems like there’s no way to watch any online video at all.

On the bright side, no phone browser comes close to the smoothness of the integrated browser, and it can only get better.

3rd Party Apps

Up until Tech Ed, there hasn’t been a large buzz around apps, but we’ve played with a few (more to come), and we’re impressed. These are apps that have been developed over the last six months and are looking mighty impressive.

Keith Patton has created a game called “AlphaJax” which looks (put bluntly) damn good.

The game -- which is cloud based and similar to Scrabble -- allows players to compete using matchmaking that works over a number of mediums which includes Twitter, Facebook, and Email.

 

The game has push notifications, which notify you on the home screen when something new happens, and allows a large, ongoing game.

Even more impressive, there are plans to have a WP7 version as well as a desktop version. So even if your friends can’t afford a shiny new WP7 device when they come out, they won’t be missing out.

For more pictures, see the gallery at the bottom of this post.

OEM Access

It’s already well known that OEM’s won’t be allowed to do much with the OS itself, but it’s now known that Windows Phone 7 OEM’s will be allowed to create applications and install them on the home screen by default. A great demonstration of this was the Telstra application that was shown off at Tech Ed Australia.

Marketplace

There isn’t too much information out there on how this works, but, Microsoft has been opening up about what will and won’t be allowed into the market.

A few facts about the marketplace:

  • Windows Phone 7 will use a similar format to Android in declaring what information the application plans on accessing and whether or not this is agreed with upon installing the application.
  • Applications that don’t contain porn or hate speech and adhere to Microsoft’s very strict, specific guidelines, will be approved. If they’re not, the company will be very open about why.
  • An example of an application being turned down would be something that didn’t declare that it uses the Geolocation API, but actually does.
  • In addition to this, applications that are too slow to start, or are very sluggish to run, will also be turned down from the Market.
  • Microsoft doesn’t mind people imitating its functionality, as long as the application is within the guidelines. This means applications such as Google Voice are welcome.
  • Side-loading of applications is not possible unless you’re a developer. Other than that, everything must be installed through the marketplace.

A huge feature that is revolutionary to the market is the “Trial API” which was shown off at Tech Ed this week. When installing a “trial app”, the entire application is downloaded – the full version – but will run in a locked down trial mode unless the Marketplace knows that the user has purchased it. Developers are able to leverage this to offer access to some features, but not others, and to push the user to buy the full version.

The application guidelines are available now on the Microsoft website.

Camera & Photos

The camera application is brilliant. It reserves a small amount of space on the screen to view the previous photo taken, and is snappy and efficient. Once you’ve taken your photo you can swipe back to the previous one in one fluid motion, then back to the live camera. No lag, no problems.

The pictures hub, accessible from the home screen is the area of the phone that houses photos from your library, as well as what's happening on social networks around you. The application automatically picks a photo from your photos for the panoramic wallpaper, and this changes from time to time.

The Facebook integration seems quite cool here, but it suffers from the same problem mentioned earlier -- it isn't possible to turn it off. The photos could be from anyone, many of us have people in their friends list who you don't really know, and these are bound to show up from time to time.

Other interesting things

Search is huge throughout the entire OS, but is actually contextual throughout each app. So if you’re on the home screen, you’ll be searching Bing, complete with the image of the day. If you’re on the email application, you’ll be searching your emails. If you’re in the people app, you’re searching your friends.

The language scattered throughout the phone is less technical than it used to be. With previous versions of Windows Mobile, sometimes the language was heavy jargon. Windows Phone tries to simplify this by using slightly more informal language such as after the phone is first started and you’ve logged in, it simply says “All done, Enjoy!” In addition to this, terms such as “Synchronizing” are substituted for “Syncing.”

On screen keyboard is a huge focus with Windows Phone 7. If you’ve ever used a smartphone that doesn’t have a slide out keyboard, you probably understand the frustration that can be caused by not being able to hit the right key. It seems Microsoft has nailed this, and has a keyboard that’s not only easy to use, but also efficiently figures out when you’ve made a mistake and offers what’s usually the right word to fix it.

Zune hub is looking very sharp and cool, but there’s not a lot to talk about here yet. It’s got a nifty new mini player when the hub isn’t open and the phone is playing music so you can see what’s playing and access basic controls. But, other than this, it’ll be hard to give a definitive word on the experience until it can be paired with the desktop too.

Finally, Microsoft will be making it harder for ROM cooking sites to hack their platform. Each device comes equipped with a unique certificate, and will not work without it loaded. If the certificates don’t match, as far as we know, the device will not be functional.

 

Wrap Up

Windows Phone 7 is a solid product, and it’s not even out yet. The developer/prototype devices are obviously not the ones that the platform will hit on its final release, but we were impressed with how quick and stable the whole thing ran even at this stage.

A few areas are worrying, with the lack of Twitter, Flash, Silverlight and HTML5 video at launch, it’s not clear what Microsoft’s game plan is here. As a heavy user of Youtube & Twitter on Android, it seems hard to imagine life without it. There’s potential that Microsoft might be intending on using the Zune hub as a way to manage video, but it’s not clear yet.

As of writing, there were no Xbox Live arcade games we could try (or even gawk at) which was extremely disappointing, though the gaming platform looks promising.

Strict Marketplace rules may cause developers to lose interest in the platform as it could be “too hard” to create something easily, and the lack of multitasking could be frustrating, but in our experience during the hands on, it wasn’t as frustrating as some made out.

As previously mentioned, the small things count, and are surprisingly important. The animations on the home screen tiles add a great deal to the experience --the emoticons that change based on the new messages waiting in messaging (or, that change to a sad face if it doesn’t send), the Xbox Live avatar on the home screen – these things all amount to an immersive, interactive, and intuitive experience, where the phone really feels like it’s yours.

As a dedicated Android user, I can say now that if the production devices are quality, I'm seriously considering moving over from Android and selling my HTC Legend. The platform is solid and I've fallen in love with it.

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Great review, Owen! I think WP7 could be a real winner for Microsoft if they play their cards right. Personally, I think Microsoft needs to do these things for WP7:

1. Release it on all the carriers. Yes, Microsoft may of had a flap with Verizon with the Kin, but they need to try and get this product into the hands of as many people as possible and not limit it to certain carriers.

2. Have a good app library. Developers is a real key to making WP7 a success. If enough can get on board, it would help them a lot.

3. Flash/Silverlight/HTML5. Hopefully this can come ASAP. I'm a bit annoyed for multitasking and copy and paste aren't in at launch, but I'm really hoping that these features will make it in at a later date.

Personally I think WP7's biggest strength is the UI, it's one of the best I've seen from a phone, and I'd love to give the thing a try out whenever it launches.

Of course I'm not due for a phone upgrade until May, but if WP7 can mature enough, I'll certainly be looking into possibly getting one!

Thanks, appreciate it

2.) Microsoft is working on this
3) Flash is coming, confirmed by MS, HTML5 too, but not HTML5 video.

As for "copy and paste," this feature is available, just contextually. Like in Office applications and email... etc.

I think Ill probably be getting a Windows Phone 7, good review. Sure the UI is different and to some it may look bad or take some getting used to, but I feel like Microsoft is finally doing something right UI wise.

At which android doesn't have. It is the most laggy OS out of apple and ms and the UI is a straight ripoff of the iPhone. When it does goes smoothly, it does so at the cost of quickly draining battery life. Metro FTW!

vice le von said,
At which android doesn't have. It is the most laggy OS out of apple and ms and the UI is a straight ripoff of the iPhone. When it does goes smoothly, it does so at the cost of quickly draining battery life. Metro FTW!

WOW...you really have no clue what your even talking about.

smooth3006 said,
ill stick with android thanks...that UI looks like crap. now a days everything is about the speed and the UI.

Windows Phone 7 is very very fast. And the UI is impressive - even more so in person. I showed several iPhone users and Android users my WP7 developer device, and they were all very impressed by the speed of the device.

smooth3006 said,
ill stick with android thanks...that UI looks like crap. now a days everything is about the speed and the UI.

Dude...you really have no clue. But, oh well...who gives a ****?

Is it an iPhone 4? I want an iPhone 4, it has more GB's LOL
I have an HTC Tilt 2, and about the time win7 phones will be "mature" (couple months)
I'll be due for another upgrade.
I'm looking at:
Dell Streak
Dell Thunder
HTC whatever win7 phone
HTC Droid X
Most likely I'll stay with AT&T, that leaves out the droid x, 99% of family/friends has at&t
The win7 phone should be a pretty solid platform, but, until it gets in the wild, who knows.
Just ask Steve Jobs about how to hold a phone, before you pick one up

If Dell comes through with their early teasers and HTC continues to improve(they do by the way) then we will have some great phones in the near future.

I think to reject the WP7 phone before you have actually put your hands on it is like saying a good looking chick in a cheap skirt is not worthy of a lay. Until you have tried it you don't know if it could be the best thing since your hand.

Open up your minds people. I think some of you who don't like it own a PS2/3 and said the XBox 360 was stupid without Blu-ray and would not make a dent in the market right?

Good review here ... but I'm guessing as you didn't mention it in your review, you can add "make phone calls" to your missing features list

C:Amie said,
Good review here ... but I'm guessing as you didn't mention it in your review, you can add "make phone calls" to your missing features list

Lol, uh, that works fine?

Its like you have been on another planet. Half your questions are answered in the review/videos/tons of other WP7 articles on Neowin!

1) There will be MANY different phones like WM. However this time manufacturers have strict requirements on everything from CPU to the number of buttons. Choose the model that suits you!!
2) Again different models, (how you missed that I do not know!!). There is a min screen size requirement too and some will be a lot larger yes!
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) Twitter is on the 360 so Microsoft clearly already have a relationship with Twitter. Don't speculate on something you clearly know nothing about (and neither do I)! Also, I'm willing to bet Skype and co will come flooding back. One of the reasons I think they pulled out is lack of direct socket access. (Which will be addressed in a later release apparantly).
6) Its not until very recently that mobile OS's became mainstream. No mobile OS of mine has ever been updatable. Why should WM have been any different. Now this is expected, it IS built into WP7 and you will recieve minor updates.
7) Why? Why isnt Android a knock-off of iOS? Was Microsoft too late with the XBox? What about Dyson with their vacuum cleaner?

woi said,
Its like you have been on another planet. Half your questions are answered in the review/videos/tons of other WP7 articles on Neowin!

1) There will be MANY different phones like WM. However this time manufacturers have strict requirements on everything from CPU to the number of buttons. Choose the model that suits you!!
2) Again different models, (how you missed that I do not know!!). There is a min screen size requirement too and some will be a lot larger yes!
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) Twitter is on the 360 so Microsoft clearly already have a relationship with Twitter. Don't speculate on something you clearly know nothing about (and neither do I)! Also, I'm willing to bet Skype and co will come flooding back. One of the reasons I think they pulled out is lack of direct socket access. (Which will be addressed in a later release apparantly).
6) Its not until very recently that mobile OS's became mainstream. No mobile OS of mine has ever been updatable. Why should WM have been any different. Now this is expected, it IS built into WP7 and you will recieve minor updates.
7) Why? Why isnt Android a knock-off of iOS? Was Microsoft too late with the XBox? What about Dyson with their vacuum cleaner?

I do know what I am talking about when it comes to Twitter. Why the hell have we been waiting 4 months and still waiting on it's return to Wave 4 Windows Live Social Network? and Windows Mobile has never had an official Twitter application made for it in it's history. I know that for a fact because I have been an owner for years. Also, everything seems to be available on this phone social network wise but TWITTER....Come on!

JSYOUNG571 said,

I do know what I am talking about when it comes to Twitter. Why the hell have we been waiting 4 months and still waiting on it's return to Wave 4 Windows Live Social Network? and Windows Mobile has never had an official Twitter application made for it in it's history. I know that for a fact because I have been an owner for years. Also, everything seems to be available on this phone social network wise but TWITTER....Come on!


Microsoft has built a Twitter app, it's coming.

JSYOUNG571 said,

I do know what I am talking about when it comes to Twitter. Why the hell have we been waiting 4 months and still waiting on it's return to Wave 4 Windows Live Social Network? and Windows Mobile has never had an official Twitter application made for it in it's history. I know that for a fact because I have been an owner for years. Also, everything seems to be available on this phone social network wise but TWITTER....Come on!

There is a sample Twitter client for WP7 on the marketplace right now, developed by Microsoft. And you can be sure that there will be many Twitter clients developed by others on the Marketplace at launch.

I am sure it will be better than iPhone or Android. Hell, even current models from HTC are better

The tight integration with office and exchange has always made Window OS's good business choices but it fell to the side when it came to consumers. Apple hit a target and created not only a culture but an eco-system that has created many loyalists and fans. Kudo's to them for it and I was one of the fans until I wanted more from the closed end system. Zune was my break in music and Android in OS(consumer side). WP7 will hopefully bridge the gap between business needs and consumer needs. I can't wait for the phones to release and truly experience it in a real world test. Excited for it and all the Tablets that will be available by early 2011. NotionInk Adam you listening? Hurry up!

I will be getting one of these devices that is for sure. I want a 4.3" screen like my EVO. If only in Super AMOLED Drool........

I haven't seen a Super TFT screen yet. Anyone have an up close and personal experience with Super TFT? Samsung has the market zipped up on that for a while.

Zune + WP7 = WIN.

Like your EVO? WTF, I want to be able to purchase as many phones as you do... I'm still stuck with my iPhone 3G and I will be for more than a year! EVO just came out like 2-3 months ago! Ugh! :@

Electric Jolt said,
Like your EVO? WTF, I want to be able to purchase as many phones as you do... I'm still stuck with my iPhone 3G and I will be for more than a year! EVO just came out like 2-3 months ago! Ugh! :@

The EVO rocks. It really does. With the lastest Launcher Pro Plus and the Widgets and Live Wallpapers it's an impressive setup. With so my ROM to choose from and a very active community at XDA you can't beat it. My 3GS sits by its lonesome cuz I am too lazy to put it up on ebay. I have a Droid X as well and it going under the knife soon for ROOT. Will probably sell it to get the Samung Galaxy S for Verizon called the Fascinate. If only they had SIM cards I would keep them and just swap out

mrmomoman said,
I will be getting one of these devices that is for sure. I want a 4.3" screen like my EVO. If only in Super AMOLED Drool........

I haven't seen a Super TFT screen yet. Anyone have an up close and personal experience with Super TFT? Samsung has the market zipped up on that for a while.

Zune + WP7 = WIN.


i'm getting rid of my android device too.. only had a desire 2 months.. not amazingly impressed.. and if wp7 is poo, i'll just go get another iPhone

Whatever, I'll get one. I am pretty sure, flash and Silverlight support will be there before you even miss them.

Add HTML5, flash, copy & paste, multitasking and the ability to pick Facebook friends (rather than all or nothing) and I'll look at moving from my HTC Desire (which I love) to WM7.

Maybe the next release...

stevehoot said,
Add HTML5, flash, copy & paste, multitasking and the ability to pick Facebook friends (rather than all or nothing) and I'll look at moving from my HTC Desire (which I love) to WM7.

Maybe the next release...

Really, what do you need HTML 5 for right now? I could pretty much say nothing right now apart from some fancy looking tech demos. Flash is nice... and is coming - more at Adobes pace not MS's, but around Q1 11. ANd WP7 uses a pretty similar system to iPhone in regards to multitasking - though then again you probably don't care about that being used to Android xD Heck it would be nice, if only for IM programs =P And you can pick your Facebook friends. Just sayin'

3.7- 4" screen should be minimum for the ui. any lesser would be fail. I'm glad the reviewer was an Android user so there was bit of what i might miss from Android view. BT why isn't there anythin on media playback ?

i'm not sure why MS is making "ROM cooking" difficult. if they want WP7 to proliferate they have to look the other way when WP7 gets 'drivers for/ported to' devices its not meant to be on.

guru said,
3.7- 4" screen should be minimum for the ui. any lesser would be fail. I'm glad the reviewer was an Android user so there was bit of what i might miss from Android view. BT why isn't there anythin on media playback ?

i'm not sure why MS is making "ROM cooking" difficult. if they want WP7 to proliferate they have to look the other way when WP7 gets 'drivers for/ported to' devices its not meant to be on.


Yeah, sorry about that. I didn't get any snaps but the Zune experience is generally dull at the moment. Microsoft isn't saying much about it and it's not fully working yet...

Owen Williams said,

Yeah, sorry about that. I didn't get any snaps but the Zune experience is generally dull at the moment. Microsoft isn't saying much about it and it's not fully working yet...

hope you get the new RTM. build on Phone soon. Cant wait for an update of the review with all features working as planned / not hidden by MS

Awesome review! Makes you want to go buy one Looks like a solid phone too. Might be my next device of choice

Google and Apple are both probably cringing now, with the upcoming WinMo7. Currently I own an Android phone and love it, but it's UI could definitely use a much needed face lift. I keep hearing that Android 3.0 is supposed to have a massive UI overhaul, but I haven't seen anything about it yet.

WinMo7 is probably going to be my next phone OS unless Google surprises me. Apple now is beginning to lag behind further and further. I own a Zune HD as well and absolutely find it the best media player.

Great review, Owen. After reading it, I've decided to put Windows Phone 7 on my buy list. You've answered just about every question I had about the phone and reminded me of how awesome the UI is. I've had a chance to use the Zune HD which has a similar UI and it's amazing.

Good job!

I'm hoping that Samsung's production device is something along the lines of the Galaxy S, with it's amazing SuperAMOLED screen. Wow that almost makes me consider Android.

The whole UI layer is silverlight 3.0 based.

You have a CE kernel with new driver model for chipset makers.
Layer on top of that some .net framework to simplify interacting with things like gps and accelerometers.
add some XNA to the batter and bake for 12 months
now, cover in silverlight and call it Metro.

Call the hardware vendors and get them to assemble the most expensive components that will allow software developers to expand 'apps' beyond tiled icon siloed experiences and their minds for years to come.

On launch day, I'll be there to say happy birthday to my newest friend.

And he'll probably be cheaper than an iAnything.

I really love my Android phone (EVO), but these Windows 7 Phones are REALLY looking nice. Last year I would never recommend a Windows Mobile phone to anyone, but with all the amazing UI changes, and features they've added, I am very impressed. I wish their was one heading over to Sprint's network though. ;(

I've had the iPhone 3GS now for a little bit over a month. No offence to all iPhone users, but the damn thing just plain sucks. Pressing little icons (even with the customization) is all nice and dandy, but it gets boring fast. There needs to be more of an integration/aggregation with most of these apps, and I think Microsoft nailed it here with their tiles/hub experiences.

I've had my Zune for over a year now, and all I can say, still loving it. The UI on is just simply amazing and I'm never bored with it.

Once Microsoft adds Flash/HTML5/Silverlight, etc., people will be flocking to it.

I agree with thornz0 with the comment. The UI is just elegantly simple. And you gotta love that.

I love my HTC Incredible, but I love my Zune more. I'll be rolling one of these on next renewal.

To those that don't like the UI, play with a Zune at Bestbuy or something...its hard to explain, but there's an elegance to its simplicity that screenshots just to not get.

It's certainly different and any competition is good competition.
However my HTC Desire will keep my attention long after this is released...

I love the interface but would like to have multitasking. I enjoy the way Android handles it but the Xperia screen has ruined my experience. Now I have to wait 2 more years for another phone upgrade...

dtomilson said,
I love the interface but would like to have multitasking. I enjoy the way Android handles it but the Xperia screen has ruined my experience. Now I have to wait 2 more years for another phone upgrade...

Probably off topic, but how exactly has the Xperia screen ruined your experience ?

StandingInAlley said,
I'm still annoyed how Copy/Paste is not there and no multitasking

Copy/Paste is coming whenever Microsoft get Silverlight 4 which has clipboard operation implanted in WP7. Silverlight in WP7 is currently based on Silverlight 3/4 hybrid which currently lack clipboard.

StandingInAlley said,
I'm still annoyed how Copy/Paste is not there and no multitasking

Instead of copy/paste you get smart sensing... where your selected text gives you a list of operations based on format of the selected data. email addresses will give you options to email, copied text will give you options to send via sms, etc.

There is OS level multitasking.
If an app developer creates a live tile, the data has to update somehow. MS just have a way of abstracting the 'under the hood' multitasking from the users application experience.
You can still listen to music while reading your ebook.
There may be no 'user' multitasking, but believe me, smart-sense - copy/paste = true multitasking.
I don't need all the apps open at once if the data flows freely through the communications pipeline.

LoveThePenguin said,
Nothing to see here. Android is years ahead of this thing. Best to avoid MS mobile operating systems, Look what happened to the kin.

The difference between WP7 and the Kin is that virtually every reviewer that's had a chance to get their hands on a WP7 device has walked away extremely pleased and optimistic about its chances when it hits the market.

Generally speaking, the only people who insist it's going to bomb are open source kidding and Mactards who wouldn't want to dirty their fingers with the device if there were given the chance to, and will therefore never actually form a valid opinion.

That's right. People who avoid technology and still manage to judge it have utterly worthless opinions. Yayyy for you.

LoveThePenguin said,
Nothing to see here. Android is years ahead of this thing. Best to avoid MS mobile operating systems, Look what happened to the kin.

Nothing to see here. Windows Phone 7 is years ahead of this thing. Best to avoid Google (aka big brother) mobile operating systems, Look what happened to the Google Wave.

Can someone please leak something on Sprint's lineup? I'm so sick of ATT getting all the love, and I'm 11months overdue on a new phone already?! And there is no way I'm switching to ATT or VZ. Wake up Sprint, please!

Interesting review, thanks. Still Wp7 is not a phone for me, at least not yet:

"MS will update the OS" I remember MS saying the same thing since WM5. Better wait n see this time.

A phone I cannot sync with my desktop? No thanks!
Oops yes you can sync with the desktop....... using Zune software but it does not sync Tasks and OneNote can only be synced in the cloud. I wonder how many businesses will allow emplyees to install Zune on desktops....

Finally yes I think that MS will update the phone in 6 month/1 year but in the meantime neither Android nor Apple will make the mistake MS made and sit waiting and doing nothing.

It's a long way to Tipperary..............

Fritzly said,
Interesting review, thanks. Still Wp7 is not a phone for me, at least not yet:

"MS will update the OS" I remember MS saying the same thing since WM5. Better wait n see this time.

A phone I cannot sync with my desktop? No thanks!
Oops yes you can sync with the desktop....... using Zune software but it does not sync Tasks and OneNote can only be synced in the cloud. I wonder how many businesses will allow emplyees to install Zune on desktops....

Finally yes I think that MS will update the phone in 6 month/1 year but in the meantime neither Android nor Apple will make the mistake MS made and sit waiting and doing nothing.

It's a long way to Tipperary..............


Except when MS actually updates WP7.......you get the update, instead of waiting around for months hoping that your carrier/OEM is kind enough to give you one.

Fritzly said,
Interesting review, thanks. Still Wp7 is not a phone for me, at least not yet:

"MS will update the OS" I remember MS saying the same thing since WM5. Better wait n see this time.

A phone I cannot sync with my desktop? No thanks!
Oops yes you can sync with the desktop....... using Zune software but it does not sync Tasks and OneNote can only be synced in the cloud. I wonder how many businesses will allow emplyees to install Zune on desktops....

Finally yes I think that MS will update the phone in 6 month/1 year but in the meantime neither Android nor Apple will make the mistake MS made and sit waiting and doing nothing.

It's a long way to Tipperary..............

Yes. Google will very quickly get Gingerbread out! Well, to the upper-tier hardware at least, since Android is officially forking, now... And well, yeah, sure, even if your device IS slated to get it, it'll take your carrier six months to make it happen... And well, yeah, sure, you can depend on SDX to get a mediocrity hacked together for you ahead of time, if you're willing to handle buggy bluetooth, finicky GPS, etc...

Fritzly said,

I wonder how many businesses will allow emplyees to install Zune on desktops....

The same ones that let iTunes be installed on desktops... >.>

Zedox said,

The same ones that let iTunes be installed on desktops... >.>

Right: the CEO and other upper management; I am talking about the masses.
Good attempt though.

lordcanti86 said,

Except when MS actually updates WP7.......you get the update, instead of waiting around for months hoping that your carrier/OEM is kind enough to give you one.

As I said I was waiting for MS to do it, as they announced, ............. with WM5. I am not in a hurry: my HD 2 does all the things WP7 still does not.

We waisted enough money with Response Point to hurry and buy half baked products.

Joshie said,

Yes. Google will very quickly get Gingerbread out! Well, to the upper-tier hardware at least, since Android is officially forking, now

Do you really believe that WP7 phones will be mid-tier? I do not think so......

Fritzly said,

A phone I cannot sync with my desktop? No thanks!
Oops yes you can sync with the desktop....... using Zune software but it does not sync Tasks and OneNote can only be synced in the cloud. I wonder how many businesses will allow emplyees to install Zune on desktops....

If you sync OneNote and Tasks to the cloud, they can be accessed by the desktop versions as well. (Just to point that out. )
As well, Microsoft is working on a version of Live Sync (oh sorry, Live Mesh) for WP7. That, however, will not be available on launch.

And since iTunes is the only official way for someone to sync an iPhone to a computer, any company that would allow iTunes to be installed to allow syncing to iPhones would very much likely allow Zune to be installed to allow syncing to WP7 phones.

I love Android but I can't wait for this and try it out. I tried Apple and WinMo 6.5 and liked them. Android is now my choice and I am glad Windows Phone 7 entered the fray. It will be good to see where it all heads in the near future.

The manufacturers that are behind this are BIG companies and they have the commitment from both the developers and the manufacturers. They set standards so they don't get the bad experience previously with WinMo.

Good review.

techbeck said,
Looks very promising. Will be nice to have a diff platform to go to in case Android ****es me off.

I don't think Android would really tick anyone off so much as just start to bore them. As a user since December, I've been fighting off sleep whenever I pick up my phone nowadays. I don't know how much of the early excitement was being genuinely impressed or just new to such a complex type of smartphone. But Android has lost all of its energy for me. The apps are drying up, the UI is little more than a generic desktop with widgets that you never use because they drain the battery, and nothing significant has changed graphically from Cupcake to Froyo.

The hacking scene has been reduced to little more than quietly sharing apks of Swype, sneaking wifi tether on board, and a bizarre obsession with megaflops. And skins. Lots and lots of really crappy skins.

It's bad enough that vendors and carriers are making Android boring. Even the hackers are starting to have the same effect. The dang thing is seriously suffering from the Linux disease.

Joshie said,

I don't think Android would really tick anyone off so much as just start to bore them. As a user since December, I've been fighting off sleep whenever I pick up my phone nowadays. I don't know how much of the early excitement was being genuinely impressed or just new to such a complex type of smartphone. But Android has lost all of its energy for me. The apps are drying up, the UI is little more than a generic desktop with widgets that you never use because they drain the battery, and nothing significant has changed graphically from Cupcake to Froyo.

The hacking scene has been reduced to little more than quietly sharing apks of Swype, sneaking wifi tether on board, and a bizarre obsession with megaflops. And skins. Lots and lots of really crappy skins.

It's bad enough that vendors and carriers are making Android boring. Even the hackers are starting to have the same effect. The dang thing is seriously suffering from the Linux disease.

Phone sales would disagree with you thought about Android drying up.

techbeck said,

Phone sales would disagree with you thought about Android drying up.

Joshie was talking about how Android has started to just become blasé for her. He has had an Android phone for so long that it the excitement of getting a new phone and all that stuff wore off.

Joshie wasn't saying the sales are drying up. He was saying that Android's effects on him were drying up.

Really nice review of a nice product. I'm stuck for two years with the iPhone, but maybe in 1.5 years I can switch to this one. Really sharp looking, and finally something different than the home screen icon clone.

ccoltmanm said,
Really nice review of a nice product. I'm stuck for two years with the iPhone, but maybe in 1.5 years I can switch to this one. Really sharp looking, and finally something different than the home screen icon clone.

Agree. The icon home screen is going back to the PALM, maybe further, days. I had a palm Pilot back in 2000. Amazing where things are going.

techbeck said,

Agree. The icon home screen is going back to the PALM, maybe further, days. I had a palm Pilot back in 2000. Amazing where things are going.

Lol, that's so true.

techbeck said,

Agree. The icon home screen is going back to the PALM, maybe further, days. I had a palm Pilot back in 2000. Amazing where things are going.


I didn't know Palm Pilot has live tiles. Enjoy your boring static icons!

micro said,
WP7 is going to be a huge success. Cant wait to see the faces of all the nay Sayers.

I can't wait to see the faces of all those who are prophesying its success when it falls flat on its face like the kin.

LoveThePenguin said,

I can't wait to see the faces of all those who are prophesying its success when it falls flat on its face like the kin.

<<snipped>>

Edited by xendrome, Sep 5 2010, 1:22pm :

day2die said,

I can't wait to see troll like you shut up when WP7 is release.

The bet is to see how long will he take to surrender and buy a WP7 device...

i believe flash will be coming shortly after launch from everything i've read. I know adobe is working with MS on it. I have also heard that there will be a youtube app. no real confirmation on this tho.

mystraven said,
i believe flash will be coming shortly after launch from everything i've read. I know adobe is working with MS on it. I have also heard that there will be a youtube app. no real confirmation on this tho.

When you visit a YouTube video, it directs you to install a video player app - no problem, it provides a button that says 'install'. Click it, and you're done.

Some good, a lot of bad. Android's got my vote, sorry MS. It's been a good run while it lasted though, i've been quite happy with WinMo until now.

Raa said,
Some good, a lot of bad. Android's got my vote, sorry MS. It's been a good run while it lasted though, i've been quite happy with WinMo until now.

Agreed, it's no where near as good as the current android lineup. MS is relying on a marketing blitz to scam people into wasting their money on this junk.

Raa said,
Some good, a lot of bad. Android's got my vote, sorry MS. It's been a good run while it lasted though, i've been quite happy with WinMo until now.

You must be joking. Imagine all those with HTC Hero still stuck on Android 1.5. At least with WP7, I get updates directly from Microsoft, not OEMs.

LoveThePenguin said,

Agreed, it's no where near as good as the current android lineup. MS is relying on a marketing blitz to scam people into wasting their money on this junk.

How do you expect to be taken seriously?

neo158 said,

He doesn't, he's just trolling so don't feed him!!!

There should be some sort of anti-troll spray...like the anti-shark spray from the old batman series...

LoveThePenguin said,

Agreed, it's no where near as good as the current android lineup. MS is relying on a marketing blitz to scam people into wasting their money on this junk.

The Kin was killed off because the carrier charged too much for the plan. There was nothing wrong with the phone.

Obviously, if you've got a large group of people as friends on Facebook, it's likely that a large group of them aren't actually friends, but more of acquaintances - and you likely don't want these in your people list - unfortunately, at this stage, there's no way to pick and choose (or even specify that you don't want Facebook contacts without logging out completely).

Ugh, seriously? Why MS, whyyyyyyyyyy

I really think that microsoft nails it with the windows phone, same they did with windows 7. Thought I really think the phone brings a unique and more intuitive UI, where I am impresed with with Microsoft is their approach for not following the me-too model and build something that will is unique. Aking to what Apple is good for. Whether people consider them late or not will not stop me getting one which will be fully integrated the zune pass that already paying for.

if in sports they always says to "never underestimate the heart of a champion" well for Microsoft the saying will be to "Never underestime the be What's Next" because they are the next smartphone but still unique and magical, lol.

lordcanti86 said,
Excellent review. However, I thought YouTube was coming to WP7 in the form of a Music/Video hub add-on?

YouTube is coming, I'm pretty sure Neowin reported that it would be available on or near release.

andrewbares said,

YouTube is coming, I'm pretty sure Neowin reported that it would be available on or near release.


I know. I broke the story here on Back Page News before Neowin had their own article up.

Too little, too late.
The iPhone and Android have already invaded the smartphone market and they're both doing great competition. I don't think Windows Mobile 7 will be able to enter this market so easily at such a late stage.

What late stage? The smartphone segment has only just begun. It's still early growth. Let 'em nuke it out for a couple years and see what's viable.

PsykX said,
Too little, too late.
The iPhone and Android have already invaded the smartphone market and they're both doing great competition. I don't think Windows Mobile 7 will be able to enter this market so easily at such a late stage.

How is it late exactly? 70% of users are still rocking flip phones or feature phones. Also, RIM had more marketshare in the US and Symbian/Nokia has more worldwide.

Imagine if Sony didn't enter the console wars when it was all about Nintendo/Sega, if Microsoft didn't when it was all about Nintendo/Sony. In markets where there are relatively short cycles (2 years average) it's never too late for anyone to enter the party as long as they bring something new and worth the investment.

This isn't a late stage though. Only 25% of people have smartphones so there is still the other 75% of people who will end up with a smartphone eventually. Those people are also the people are going to go for lower cost solutions. So the winner is probably going to come down to which os is running on the cheapest hardware. But I doubt it will ever get to the point where one os has 90% share. I looks like there's going to be a constant battle between 3 or 4 os. I really hope so because that would be the best result for all of us.

PsykX said,
Too little, too late.
The iPhone and Android have already invaded the smartphone market and they're both doing great competition. I don't think Windows Mobile 7 will be able to enter this market so easily at such a late stage.

People said the same thing when android was being developed, and how the iPhone has already saturated the market.

vice le von said,
What late stage? The smartphone segment has only just begun. It's still early growth. Let 'em nuke it out for a couple years and see what's viable.

The smartphone market is pretty mature now. WP7 can't take advantage of the desktop monopoly, and we all know by now, without it, it's doomed to failure.

LoveThePenguin said,

The smartphone market is pretty mature now. WP7 can't take advantage of the desktop monopoly, and we all know by now, without it, it's doomed to failure.

You mean like how MS totally lost all hope of dominating the netbook market that had already spread like wildfire with Linux distributions establishing a new generation of open-source software users?

Wait...

Joshie said,

You mean like how MS totally lost all hope of dominating the netbook market that had already spread like wildfire with Linux distributions establishing a new generation of open-source software users?

They just threatened to withdraw OEM discounts as usual. The same old illegal antitrust practises they've been using since the 90's. Besides, the netbook market is being supplanted by tablets. Let's see how the MS tablet does in a market not saturated with a win-tel monopoly; How much are they charging for it again? $1k was it? lol

LoveThePenguin said,

They just threatened to withdraw OEM discounts as usual. The same old illegal antitrust practises they've been using since the 90's. Besides, the netbook market is being supplanted by tablets. Let's see how the MS tablet does in a market not saturated with a win-tel monopoly; How much are they charging for it again? $1k was it? lol

Of course, you have no proof that MS threatened anything or did anything illegal, that doesn't stop you from spewing that nonsense though, being wrong must hurt a lot.

PsykX said,
Too little, too late.
The iPhone and Android have already invaded the smartphone market and they're both doing great competition. I don't think Windows Mobile 7 will be able to enter this market so easily at such a late stage.

Get out of your room and see the world for once.

LoveThePenguin said,

The smartphone market is pretty mature now.

No, it isn't.

LoveThePenguin said,

WP7 can't take advantage of the desktop monopoly, and we all know by now, without it, it's doomed to failure.

They don't need to. They're going to leverage the **** out of Silverlight to attract devs. The three screens and a cloud strategy will be very enticing, and it doesn't depend on Windows. Silverlight runs on OSX and your stupid penguin OS.

PsykX said,
Too little, too late.
The iPhone and Android have already invaded the smartphone market and they're both doing great competition. I don't think Windows Mobile 7 will be able to enter this market so easily at such a late stage.

I'd say not. One great thing about technology is that it is always improving, no matter what's already got the upper hand.

Look at Internet Explorer (which beated out Netscape), and Firefox (which is currently chipping away at IE's market), and now Chrome (which is trying to wedge itself in between IE and Firefox). Apple's iPad rejuvinated a years-old and possibly forgotten market. Even Microsoft Office had some stiff competition when it came out. Look at the XBox, which Microsoft threw into a mainly Sony and Nintendo market.

Technology is ever-changing and I believe it's never too late to do anything.

PsykX said,
Too little, too late.
The iPhone and Android have already invaded the smartphone market and they're both doing great competition. I don't think Windows Mobile 7 will be able to enter this market so easily at such a late stage.

There's no such thing as Windows Mobile 7.

Excellent review I'm sure there will be ways to view online video on launch though - I can't imagine Microsoft would miss that one

Calum said,
Excellent review I'm sure there will be ways to view online video on launch though - I can't imagine Microsoft would miss that one

Yeah, I bet that no support of any kind will be a deal breaker for a bunch of people.

Hopefully it'll get out something soon.

Calum said,
Excellent review I'm sure there will be ways to view online video on launch though - I can't imagine Microsoft would miss that one

I'm sure there will be a dedicated YouTube App you can get at release, also expect a few twitter apps as well, those are easy to do for the platform.

Calum said,
Excellent review I'm sure there will be ways to view online video on launch though - I can't imagine Microsoft would miss that one

Yes, other sites have published photos of leaked devices with a YouTube and Twitter apps installed. This won't be a problem and there's no need for 1st-party versions of these apps.

GP007 said,

I'm sure there will be a dedicated YouTube App you can get at release, also expect a few twitter apps as well, those are easy to do for the platform.

Seesmic has one complete I think, for twitter.

GP007 said,

I'm sure there will be a dedicated YouTube App you can get at release, also expect a few twitter apps as well, those are easy to do for the platform.

When you click a YouTube video, it pops up a message that asks you to install a Video App to play the video. You tap 'install', and it goes straight to the Marketplace to install the app.

Yep, great review Owen. Can't wait for the phone to shake things up a bit. Am sick of the Icon UI (iphone/android)

Timan said,
Yep, great review Owen. Can't wait for the phone to shake things up a bit. Am sick of the Icon UI (iphone/android)

Same, although the missing features really put me off.

Minimoose said,

Same, although the missing features really put me off.

That's not that bad, maybe an app has support for it or an update will add it.

Btw, add Blackberry OS 6 to the list of icon UIs.

Electric Jolt said,

That's not that bad, maybe an app has support for it or an update will add it.

Btw, add Blackberry OS 6 to the list of icon UIs.

And subtract Android from the list of icon UI's. You can make your Android phone ANY style you want it. Install a lot of widgets, have it all icons, or even install SlideScreen, and get a WM6.5-style homescreen sort of thing. Android can be whatever you want it to be. (Same as the old Windows Mobile)

andrewbares said,

And subtract Android from the list of icon UI's. You can make your Android phone ANY style you want it. Install a lot of widgets, have it all icons, or even install SlideScreen, and get a WM6.5-style homescreen sort of thing. Android can be whatever you want it to be. (Same as the old Windows Mobile)

Even slidescreen's app launcher is an icon grid, though.

The first-on homescreen design might be unique, but ultimately all smartphones fall back to icon grids.

Good review mate, well done. However, I disagree with your assessment that Windows Mobile was years behind. It remained superior for business use (until later reiterations) and still had many features that the iphone didnt, let alone the technology which WinMo devices had been built on for years.

The game changer was the iphones consumer targeted UI, price, and out of the box experience.

Osiris said,
Good review mate, well done. However, I disagree with your assessment that Windows Mobile was years behind. It remained superior for business use (until later reiterations) and still had many features that the iphone didnt, let alone the technology which WinMo devices had been built on for years.
The game changer was the iphones consumer targeted UI, price, and out of the box experience.

+1

Osiris said,
Good review mate, well done. However, I disagree with your assessment that Windows Mobile was years behind. It remained superior for business use (until later reiterations) and still had many features that the iphone didnt, let alone the technology which WinMo devices had been built on for years.

The game changer was the iphones consumer targeted UI, price, and out of the box experience.


Windows Mobile probably has the most raw functionality of any mobile OS on the market, including Android. However, it wasn't sophisticated enough for consumers.

lordcanti86 said,

Windows Mobile probably has the most raw functionality of any mobile OS on the market, including Android. However, it wasn't sophisticated enough for consumers.

Umm, it was TOO sophisticated for consumers. You mean to say it was too complicated for consumers, too tough to use.

But yeah, Osiris, when I read that part of the article, I thought the exact same thing as you. WinMo is a beast for productivity.

The more I see of it, the more I like it.
Hopefully they can get some big applications, and release a budget phone too.

thealexweb said,
A $1bn? Makes you think when Google's probably put a fraction of that in to Android and has still been a huge suceess.

If they created the OS themselves, then the costs would probably be the same. However, the did an end-around that by just buying Android instead.

thealexweb said,
A $1bn? Makes you think when Google's probably put a fraction of that in to Android and has still been a huge suceess.

Well, Android busted out competing basically only against Apple. They went in a diff direction and made it open so they didnt need a lot of money either. Blackberries at the time were really nothing like Apple/Android so that wasnt a competition IMO. MS is coming out in to a market dominated Apple, Android, and now BB with their new OS. They need to put a lot of money in to the product and advertising and can afford to do so.

thealexweb said,
A $1bn? Makes you think when Google's probably put a fraction of that in to Android and has still been a huge suceess.

Half of that is marketing, which of course isn't surprising when you consider it's microsoft. I suppose they'll lure a few people in before they realise it's a POS.

LoveThePenguin said,

Half of that is marketing, which of course isn't surprising when you consider it's microsoft. I suppose they'll lure a few people in before they realise it's a POS.

That's just an projection by some blogger. You said it like facts.

lordcanti86 said,

If they created the OS themselves, then the costs would probably be the same. However, the did an end-around that by just buying Android instead.

Google bought a tiny startup very cheaply, they've spent a few millions making Android but no serious money.

LoveThePenguin said,

Half of that is marketing, which of course isn't surprising when you consider it's microsoft. I suppose they'll lure a few people in before they realise it's a POS.

<<snipped>> stop flame baiting please.

Edited by xendrome, Sep 5 2010, 1:49pm :

Blasius said,
Awesome review Owen. I actually want one after reading this.

I haven't been too impressed by anything I've seen lately from any site about this phone, but this review was really great. If I didn't have a Hero already, I would most likely go for it. Turned my eyes

My thoughts exactly, surprisingly charming read.

However, i can't stop thinking that no matter how good it may be profiling, i still can't take that spartan interface. It's a deal breaker.

A great review
I would really consider purchasing it if they are able to sort out the html5/flash issue. It seems to be really it's main downfall.
Seeing as it's Microsoft I would probably guess it's going to be MUCH cheaper than the iPhone too so I'm looking forward to it

Purify said,
A great review
Seeing as it's Microsoft I would probably guess it's going to be MUCH cheaper than the iPhone too so I'm looking forward to it

Yes! Hopefully! If this hits the shelf's at around £200-£350, it will be in my pocket very quickly.

Purify said,
A great review
I would really consider purchasing it if they are able to sort out the html5/flash issue. It seems to be really it's main downfall.
Seeing as it's Microsoft I would probably guess it's going to be MUCH cheaper than the iPhone too so I'm looking forward to it

Those (small) niggles will be solved once the initial version of the OS is released. For a V1 software it's pretty damn complete you have to agree.

Wombatt said,

Yes! Hopefully! If this hits the shelf's at around £200-£350, it will be in my pocket very quickly.

Microsoft has made it so that they can't be that cheap due to the high system requirements, for now at least 1Ghz processors won't appear in cheap phones.

Purify said,
Seeing as it's Microsoft I would probably guess it's going to be MUCH cheaper than the iPhone too so I'm looking forward to it

What's the software developer got to do with the price of the handset?

TCLN Ryster said,

What's the software developer got to do with the price of the handset?
They set the hardware requirements so they have some impact.

CarlMS said,

Those (small) niggles will be solved once the initial version of the OS is released. For a V1 software it's pretty damn complete you have to agree.

The size of the problem is really subjective. For someone who barely eve watches online video on their phone it can be a "small niggle" as you say. For someone who watches at least one (but typically more) videos a day it can be a pretty big issue.

I don't consider it a deal breaker, but it did put a really big damper on my plans to get a WP7 launch device.

I think I will be getting one when it comes out, until android decides to put security locks on contacts, messages and pictures (and no I dont want to use an app from the market to do that)

+1
I've been eager to upgrade the phones my wife and I use to Windows Phone 7. From what we've seen, we both love the simplicity of the home screen and fluidity of the overall UI. I'm also looking forward to Zune integration, finally!!

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

"Silverlight and HTML5"

It DOES SUPPORT Silverlight and you can developer apps. you meany's "web browser", not the OS

JohnCz said,
I've been eager to upgrade the phones my wife and I use to Windows Phone 7

<<snipped>> no trolling please

Edited by xendrome, Sep 1 2010, 4:16pm : trolling comment.

Jeex said,

<<snipped>> no trolling please.

Dude...you are a <<snipped>. ALSO no personal attacks.

Edited by xendrome, Sep 1 2010, 4:25pm :

FoxieFoxie said,
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

"Silverlight and HTML5"

It DOES SUPPORT Silverlight and you can developer apps. you meany's "web browser", not the OS

Hence: "Silverlight and HTML5 video [...]"

Jeex said,

<<snipped>> no trolling please

Of course you'll be fine as long as you are using an iPhone and holding properly correct? But then again, for an interview a landline (if available) would be best than the trust any cell phone.

WM 6.5 and older were notorious more for the hardware, cheap phones with a powerful OS. Take the Samsung Jack I'm suffering with now. Damn thing started to crap the bed 2 days out of warranty this summer. 2 DAYS! Of course AT&T will gladly sell me another for $150 when this cost me nothing in the first place. And do not forget that T-Mobile Dash, neat device with barely enough specs to turn on. Custom ROMS saved that thing, the OEM garbage kills it.

As long as MS has seriously tightened their control of the hardware and is enforcing minimum specs, this platform has a chance in the market. As for those custom carrier apps, as long as I can remove them I don't care.

Edited by xendrome, Sep 1 2010, 4:14pm :