Neowin: The Next Generation

Neowin Editor-In-Chief Steve Parker (Neobond) has put a call out to features users would like to see on Neowin.net coming up.

Neowin is in the process of going through its next major development iteration and is looking for your input as to what features the site needs. New featuers include integration with Impulse, improved layout, consolidation of the front page content into a cleaner look, more user features, and much more.

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You know one thing that's always bugged me? A while back it used to be that I would visit Neowin and go straight to the front page to look up the current news and I would always check the recent forum posts. But about half a year ago (sometime, I don't remember when) the developers decided to use a new tabbed system and recently even added live refreshing in the tabbed system in the top left corner.

It's just so annoying to scan over Forums, then if I want to go to Software or Gamers, it just might switch over to Blogs and when I right click the topic to open in a new tab everythnig resets to the front page news which means I would have to go over it all again. Just saying a while back I would be able to select all the topics I was interested in in about 5 seconds, now I have to carefully search through at least half a minute and make sure I don't make any mistakes.

Hopefully that makes sense, it's kind of hard to explain.

Two suggestions:

1. The ability to filter news, maybe by company (Apple/Microsoft/Intel/AMD/Symantec/etc) or keyword (update/anti-virus/lawsuit) tags. This way you could set up a personalized Neowin news feed that displays only news tailored to your interests.

2. Have the 'Ignore User list' feature work for comments in the news feed.

Well, Subscribers have seen my Neowin Core concept, maybe take some cues from that.

Plus, as I have written in a previous submission, I would like the ability to mark a reply/comments as an answer to the question posed in the original post.

How about adding a Wiki. With the wealth of knowledge gathered here at Neowin and dispensed in the forums, a lot of this could be added to a wiki on a huge number of topics. I realize this would be more like a seperate project involving the community instead of a feature, but with the involvement we have here, it's feasible.

Neowin: The Next Generation
The Internet, the final Frontier
These are the articles of the website Neowin. Its continuing mission to explore strange new sites, to seek out new tech and geeks, to boldy go where no geek has gone before!

(ncc50446 said @ #21)
Neowin: The Next Generation
The Internet, the final Frontier
These are the articles of the website Neowin. Its continuing mission to explore strange new sites, to seek out new tech and geeks, to boldy go where no geek has gone before!

I was waiting for someone to do that...

I'd like a format where articles are more than just copy/pasted from their original source, and if they are just c/p make it a little more obvious somewhere.

-Less advertisements on the site, especially for us subscribers!
-Java applet for IRC chat without the need for additional software on your computer.

I also feel the need to freshen up the overall design of Neowin, especially the front page. At the moment it's fairly heavy on your eyes and nothing really enticing.

The ads I can live with, as long as they remove the intellitxt things, those are among the worst things ever unleashed onto the net.
The java irc app is easily done via using pjirc, as long as the server supports the java files. It's not hard to do, I've done it on another irc network.

How about some random pr0n instead of ads? You would of course want to tie-in the the pr0n with the theme of the article...kinda like the icons used on the main page.

I frown upon this, especially when I remember about reading the article on the man who has sex with cars. Oh, and that article about the guy having sex with a bike.

Following on from previous comments about the subscription... maybe if neowin could provide some sort of hosting solution, so subscribers have a sub domain automatically made linking to there profiles with the options of using the domain with say 25mb of storage (keep costs down)... i reckon this would be good but i dunno, maybe its not the direction neowin want to take...

Oh and maybe let forum memebers have a chance of designing or even helping design neowin... i've personally seen a lot of talent on this site and i'm sure people would even be will to work for free on it.

Another quick idea, better placed adverts... take facebook for example, perfectly placed adverts... i'm sure neowin could adopt the same idea in some way instead of just placing ads randomly like in the header.

just a few ideas... cba to spell check cause im a little bit drunk

Members should be able to submit news to either Front Page or Breaking News without the risk of duplicating an existing news item.

What I suggest as a solution is that members can in future only post news items to Breaking News, and then the News Staff/admins can select the best articles from there that make it to the Front Page.

I've raised the problem of duplicate news items before but it seemed to go unnoticed (despite it sounding so easy to implement).

(Lt-DavidW said @ #14)
Members should be able to submit news to either Front Page or Breaking News without the risk of duplicating an existing news item.

What I suggest as a solution is that members can in future only post news items to Breaking News, and then the News Staff/admins can select the best articles from there that make it to the Front Page.

I've raised the problem of duplicate news items before but it seemed to go unnoticed (despite it sounding so easy to implement).


It wasn't ignored, we have a feature now that allows us to show any forum post as front page news, where the comments page redirects to the thread on the forums.

(DaveLegg said @ #14.1)

It wasn't ignored, we have a feature now that allows us to show any forum post as front page news, where the comments page redirects to the thread on the forums.

Thanks Dave, this change was appreciated and did not go unnoticed, but unfortunately the problem still exists. Please see my original feedback in this thread.

I agree with some of the other suggestions...specifically the better experience on a mobile browser for commenting and reading the forums.

I'd be happy if the news post login wouldn't take me to the forums but to the news post or comment I tried to reply to.

Yeah, better still... logging in from anywhere on the site should return you to the page you were on when you clicked login, NOT to the root of the forums. Thats just bad UI design.

(TCLN Ryster said @ #12.2)
Yeah, better still... logging in from anywhere on the site should return you to the page you were on when you clicked login, NOT to the root of the forums. Thats just bad UI design.

IPB can be a pain to get to redirect properly, but we'll do what we can

I think it needs some sort of date-based filtering system for the Related News area in the Additional Information pane.
It shows stories that are years old, e.g. now i see a story about Apple signing up Quanta, that's from 2001.

I think comment voting would work, or even better all news stories that are posted get copied to BPN..just like that.

Maybe add a java IRC script for those who don't want to install IRC on their computers.

Maybe add a script so that if you pay a monthly subscription you wont see any adverts

Maybe a live tracking script like digg has.

(tunafish said @ #8)
Maybe add a script so that if you pay a monthly subscription you wont see any adverts

+1

Those of us who subscribe now would like that very much. Getting something more for our money than just a yellow logo.

[opinion]
Sorry, vB is horrible. IPB is much better. Besides I doubt neowin would be willing to fork out for an other forum solution and then have to COMPLETELY re-engineer their entire site
[/opinion]

vB is much more popular. Neowin is the only site I use that uses IPB. I know the site is very much integrated with IPB so like I said... a lame suggestion.

http://www.big-boards.com/statistics/

Imitation? vB was at version 2 when IPB was first starting out. vB started out as a commercial venture from the start unlike IPB. I guess they still imitated their business model though?

SK[ said,#7.4]vB is much more popular. Neowin is the only site I use that uses IPB. I know the site is very much integrated with IPB so like I said... a lame suggestion.

http://www.big-boards.com/statistics/

Imitation? vB was at version 2 when IPB was first starting out. vB started out as a commercial venture from the start unlike IPB. I guess they still imitated their business model though?


True, but when IPB 2 came along, vB started copying. And not doing it as well.

please!!! a rating for the comment system...I enjoy reading well put comments, thus a ranking system makes it easier to scan the comments to read the ones with merit as opposed to the flame bait

(Netrack said @ #6.4)
please!!! a rating for the comment system...I enjoy reading well put comments, thus a ranking system makes it easier to scan the comments to read the ones with merit as opposed to the flame bait

Not sure I agree. While the idea is nice, it wouldn't be used like that at the end of the day. Anyone who has a different opinion gets marked down, anyone who has the same opinion gets marked up. That is how things go at nearly every site I visit that has comment ratings so I doubt it would be any better with the arguments that occur on here sometimes.

As I posted on Neobond's blog a few days ago, I'd rather they put all that effort into better supporting the CURRENT themes on the site.
For example, after I post this comment, I wont be able to edit it because the old theme (swift? I always get them confused) simply doesn't support it any more, even though it used to.

Building on that I want to say, the forums need to be ungraded still. Neowin doesn't need a whole lot of cosmetic change to me, just it's inconsistent with the forums still being the old style.

(Kreuger said @ #5.1)
Building on that I want to say, the forums need to be ungraded still. Neowin doesn't need a whole lot of cosmetic change to me, just it's inconsistent with the forums still being the old style.

The new forum skin has been out for quite a while. If you're not seeing it, scroll to the bottom of the forum page and choose 'Shift' If you have any problems changing skin, drop me a PM and I'll see what I can do

(DaveLegg said @ #5.2)

The new forum skin has been out for quite a while. If you're not seeing it, scroll to the bottom of the forum page and choose 'Shift' If you have any problems changing skin, drop me a PM and I'll see what I can do
Wow, how did I miss out on that? I feel like such a fool!

I agree with TechMedik on the mobile version and also how about getting rid of the adverts that are little more than scams if that is possible ?

(WindowsNT said @ #4)
I agree with TechMedik on the mobile version and also how about getting rid of the adverts that are little more than scams if that is possible ?

Agreed. I'm all for supporting neowin, but I just HAVE to block those intelitext ads, they're the bane of the internet.

(WindowsNT said @ #4)
I agree with TechMedik on the mobile version and also how about getting rid of the adverts that are little more than scams if that is possible ?

[snip]

Please see the "Adblockers" thread in "Site Announcements"

I want to support neowin, and I do as I'm a subscriber... I just wish that entitled me to a site without REALLY ANNOYING popups just by moving your mouse over a page... it's becoming almost a game of "Dodge The Double Underlined Word!", especially as they now seem to almost follow your mouse for a second or two before disappearing. I'm beginning to form a very negative opinion of any site using them, including neowin. I doubt I'll be subscribing again if they remain.

Could subscribers please be rewarded with more than just an orange logo and + next to their names. I would even be willing to pay just a little bit more, maybe even something monthly.

(TCLN Ryster said @ #4.3)
I want to support neowin, and I do as I'm a subscriber... I just wish that entitled me to a site without REALLY ANNOYING popups just by moving your mouse over a page... it's becoming almost a game of "Dodge The Double Underlined Word!", especially as they now seem to almost follow your mouse for a second or two before disappearing. I'm beginning to form a very negative opinion of any site using them, including neowin. I doubt I'll be subscribing again if they remain.

Could subscribers please be rewarded with more than just an orange logo and + next to their names. I would even be willing to pay just a little bit more, maybe even something monthly.

That has been in the pipeline for a while. I will ensure that support is there to make it possible when we build the new version, so Administrators at their discretion can enable the feature, should they so wish

It needs a much better mobile version. Specifically a way to browse the forums and reply to threads without having to view the site as the full version.

3rd.

just make the forum page super small for mobiles, and higher compression images, so it looks the same as the forum basically, but tiny.

Invision Power Board 3.0 (in development) will allow people to reply and stuff using lo-fi mode so this should be good news for all mobile users :).