New report claims Lumia 900 sales may be petering out

When the Lumia 900 smartphone from Nokia was launched in the US in April, it was accompanied by a massive ad campaign and, at least for the first few weeks, high sales. Indeed, the Windows Phone device was hard to find at first; AT&T's online store had problems keeping the Lumia 900 in stock.

It's been less than two months since the Lumia 900's US launch, but a new report at News.com quotes data from Compete that shows that sales of the Lumia 900 have now slowed. Compete claims that in May, online orders for the Lumia 900 have dropped below that of the older Samsung Galaxy S II and even older Windows Phone devices like the Samsung Focus and the HTC Titan.

At the moment, Amazon.com shows the black version of the Lumia 900 at the number six position in terms of sales of cell phones with service; the cyan colored version of the Lumia 900 is well behind in 25th place.

Neither Nokia nor AT&T would give specifics on the current sales of the Lumia 900. Nokia spokesperson Keith Nowak is quoted as saying that the company is " ... pleased with the consumer reaction, as well as the support we have received from AT&T." Scott Anderson, vice president of the connectivity business group for Best Buy, was a little more optimistic, saying, "The Nokia 900 is selling pretty well, but it wasn't poised to be a blockbuster device. It's a solid seller, but that's it."

The article points out that the marketing for the Lumia 900 by AT&T will likely go away soon thanks to the launch of the Samsung Galaxy S III in the US later this month. Anderson claims that the Galaxy S III could break smartphone pre-order records at Best Buy.

Source: News.com

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Someone here said 900 is an oversized piece of crap, well when the next iPhone launches with its 4inch+ display bet it'll fit snugly in your hand and the fairy dust magically makes it all good

True. Windows phones are not very popular. Maybe it's the "Microsoft Windows" brand.

Disclaimer: I am a happy Windows Phone user.

Chanthu said,
Disclaimer: I am a happy Windows Phone user.

It's saddening you have to put that down in order to avoid a hailstorm of unfounded attacs or being called a fanboy around here.

.Neo said,

It's saddening you have to put that down in order to avoid a hailstorm of unfounded attacs or being called a fanboy around here.

Sadly, You are right..

This isn't good news for Nokia. They took a big risk putting all their eggs in the Windows Phone basket and I get the sense that it's a move that will only end badly for them.

MS doesn't have to do anything until they are ready to announce stuff about WP8 and this has really nothing to do with sales as the majority of people don't know anything about WP8 yet. The 900 is an excellent phone as with most wp7 devices. Unfortunately technology moves at quite the pace these days and the phones have to keep up with that. 1st and 2 generation will be getting an update but at this point in time I will not say to what as as mobile devices go an update is an update doesn't really matter to what, they are still supporting those devices and not abandoning them. WP8 devices ill be a whole new story as to the hardware side of things that will put them well ahead of iphone and android devices in terms of specs and performance. The OS itself I will not say anything about other than its a bit of wow. Stay tuned soon for official announcements by MS next week.

korupt_one said,
MS doesn't have to do anything until they are ready to announce stuff about WP8 and this has really nothing to do with sales as the majority of people don't know anything about WP8 yet. The 900 is an excellent phone as with most wp7 devices. Unfortunately technology moves at quite the pace these days and the phones have to keep up with that. 1st and 2 generation will be getting an update but at this point in time I will not say to what as as mobile devices go an update is an update doesn't really matter to what, they are still supporting those devices and not abandoning them. WP8 devices ill be a whole new story as to the hardware side of things that will put them well ahead of iphone and android devices in terms of specs and performance. The OS itself I will not say anything about other than its a bit of wow. Stay tuned soon for official announcements by MS next week.

I will.............. and I have also saved a copy of your "Declaration"...............

MDboyz said,
I need Nokia 900 from T-Mobile. Bring it here please.

Yeah T-Mobile needs some more real phones! I cant wait for new WP8 devices

MS need to clarify the updating to WP8 issue. No one is going to buy a high end phone that will be replaced in a few months (well an Apple fanboi would but thats a seperate issue).

trip21 said,
MS need to clarify the updating to WP8 issue. No one is going to buy a high end phone that will be replaced in a few months (well an Apple fanboi would but thats a seperate issue).

Incorrect. Any average consumer will buy a device since they don't have the tech knowledge to know something new is coming out.

trip21 said,
No one is going to buy a high end phone that will be replaced in a few months (well an Apple fanboi would but thats a seperate issue).

An true Apple fanboy would get it the first day it's in the stores... What you're saying makes no sense.

Its slowing down in the US I bet but not anywhere else, its just starting to sell..

Boy do the writers really try to make people think something other than the fact..

Gibbyhome said,
Its slowing down in the US I bet but not anywhere else, its just starting to sell..

In a few months it will have been TWO YEARS of this platform failing to gain any real traction. And ungodly amounts of money and marketing have been poured into the platform *already* in order to get it to move. Meanwhile Android is surging ahead and consumers are tripping over themselves to get Apple gear. The mere mention of "iPhone 5" sends consumers and pundits alike into a frenzy.

Windows Phone was not only late to market, it's also redundant.

Deliciously_Random said,
Windows Phone was not only late to market, it's also redundant.

It's not redundant. We need a viable third platform.

keyboardP said,

Not if you hate competition and choice.

In this case, apparently consumers don't really care about "competition and choice." It all comes down to who they're opening their wallets for, not tired and overused platitudes about competition or choice or whatever.

Deliciously_Random said,

In this case, apparently consumers don't really care about "competition and choice." It all comes down to who they're opening their wallets for, not tired and overused platitudes about competition or choice or whatever.

Consumers were opening their wallets for iPhones, even after Android had been out for a couple of years. Now look at the landscape and tell me that consumers didn't appreciate the alternatives available. Now the market is structured differently, it might take WP a bit longer than it took Android to gain a foothold in the market, but it's far from redundant. With Blackberry sliding, WP has an important role in becoming the third viable platform.

simplezz said,

Tizen.

Its a joke, like meego and before that meamo was. I am not saying Meego and meamo was bad, but this is the third time they are trying. On the other hand i think Symbian has more potential, it is the most matured, stable mobile OS IMO. I had choice to buy WP7 or Android phone, but i ended up buying Nokia belle phone ( Nokia 603 ), and I am really happy with it.

Up hill climb, we knew that coming in. Not a day goes by that someone doesn't ask me if my Lumia is the one from the "beta test" commercial. That should tell someone something. I watch a lot of Hulu though, and I have NEVER seen ANY of those commercials up there. Nothing but Samsung and IPhone.

Of course they're petering out. The market at large doesn't care about them. No "cool factor" and ecosystem strength like the iPhone, and no market penetration via (free) universal licensing like Android.

The entire ill-conceived WP7/Nokia project is dead in the water. MS failed to wow consumers, having come very, very late to the market. It's been "meh" ever since.

Thank Ballmer. As usual.


At the moment, Amazon.com shows the black version of the Lumia 900 at the number six position in terms of sales of cell phones with service; the cyan colored version of the Lumia 900

And look at the reviews. Some marketing firm has clearly been skewing the rating. 380 reviews is a lot if you compare it against the others in the list, and 330 of those gave it a five star rating. How many of them are verified purchasers? I smell manipulation. If Microsoft is willing to manipulate Amazon reviews, what else has it manipulated?

simplezz said,

And look at the reviews. Some marketing firm has clearly been skewing the rating. 380 reviews is a lot if you compare it against the others in the list, and 330 of those gave it a five star rating. How many of them are verified purchasers? I smell manipulation. If Microsoft is willing to manipulate Amazon reviews, what else has it manipulated?

I think its loyal fans. From Nokia AND Microsoft. Do you know how many fanboys there are, IMENNSSSIIIVEEE AMOUNTSSS lol. there are your petty 380 reviews.

rippleman said,
I met someone the other week and he had a windows phone.

The guy a row over from me on the plane yesterday had one. I noticed because I heard the sound when he got a text, right before it was time to turn it off.

I see Windows Phones pretty often. Definitely not as often as iPhones and Androids, but they are out there.

I've seen one guy on the transit who had a Windows Phone. I admit, I had to smile when I saw it. Now that I have one, I like it and all but I have to be honest and admit that if I had access to an iPhone on T-Mobile with my prepaid plan, Windows Phone 7 doesn't have anything to convince me to stay. Maybe Windows Phone 8 will.

I am due for an update, I have the LG Quantum (Proabably the lowest spec WP7 Phone) and I am not really considering upgrading to the Lumia 900. I figure around christmas time there will be newer, better, and windows phone 8 guaranteed phones. I want the best (pixels per inch)ppi on my phone, as well as a good screen size, minimum 16gb (maybe even 32gb) built in storage, and ffcamera as well as NFC capabilities. A dual or quad core would be nice for some future proofing, but I don't want to get crazy here. Have I gotten crazy already?

I have a windows phone and I work in an active office of web developers (I am one), designers, project managers and etc. I have not ever seen another windows phone still...

SPARTdAN said,
I have a windows phone and I work in an active office of web developers (I am one), designers, project managers and etc. I have not ever seen another windows phone still...

You must stick out like a sore thumb then..

recursive said,

You must stick out like a sore thumb then..

I stick out like a sore thumb where I work. All the execs use iPhone/iPads. However, it is awesome when they're fumbling around with an app to scan a QR code and I hit two buttons and it's done.

Microsoft and At&t know the real reason why the Lumia 900 sales has come to a halt.

Microsoft - Not coming forward to address rather the current Windows Phone 7.5 (OS) is going to be upgraded to the Apollo OS (Windows Phone 8).

At&t - have been lousy on releasing 2 to 3 major updates that will resolve some major issues with people's phones (the disappearing keyboard). There have been updates and fixes released by Microsoft since last year, and At&t has not bothered to release any to the customers. For At&t to be the main home for Windows Phone 7, Microsoft has not done anything to force At&t to push the updates and fixes.

People are not going to waste their money and lock themselves into a 2 year contract with both of these issues. Not knowing if your phone is going to continue to be supported because of your OS and the annoying bugs that At&t has not fixed is a deal breaker for a lot of people. Microsoft needs to get on the ball.


Edited by JSYOUNG571, Jun 13 2012, 9:55pm :

JSYOUNG571 said,
Microsoft and At&t know the real reason why the Lumia 900 sales has come to a halt.

Microsoft - Not coming forward to address rather the current Windows Phone 7.5 (OS) is going to be upgraded to the Apollo OS (Windows Phone 8).

At&t - have been lousy on releasing 2 to 3 major updates that will resolve some major issues with people's phones (the disappearing keyboard). There have been updates and fixes released by Microsoft since last year, and At&t has not bothered to release any to the customers. For At&t to be the main home for Windows Phone 7, Microsoft has not done anything to force At&t to push the updates and fixes.

People are not going to waste their money and lock themselves into a 2 year contract with both of these issues. Not knowing if your phone is going to continue to be supported because of your OS and the annoying bugs that At&t has not fixed is a deal breaker for a lot of people. Microsoft needs to get on the ball.


How many people actually know about WP8 to wait for it? Or about previous unreleased updates? The average person going to an at&t store has no clue, so its probably just down to the slowdown in advertising and better devices becoming available.

These are some good points. I am not sure if someone who is not technical would know about Windows Phone 8 which would not make that a factor for sales.

efjay said,

How many people actually know about WP8 to wait for it? Or about previous unreleased updates? The average person going to an at&t store has no clue, so its probably just down to the slowdown in advertising and better devices becoming available.

I know way more people who are knowledgeable with computers and OSes than people who have a WP7 device.
It is true that majority of people do not know about WP8 but they relay on friends who do.

the sales man tried to sell me on the iphone this is a fantastic phone it can slice and dice yada yada yada i said look it looks like a paperweight and the screen is small i don't want that piece of crap

tiffanyusa said,
the sales man tried to sell me on the iphone this is a fantastic phone it can slice and dice yada yada yada i said look it looks like a paperweight and the screen is small i don't want that piece of crap

I guess there's no accounting for taste... The iPhone looks sophisticated, whereas the Lumia 900 looks like it belongs in a bag of Skittles.

tiffanyusa said,
the sales man tried to sell me on the iphone this is a fantastic phone it can slice and dice yada yada yada i said look it looks like a paperweight and the screen is small i don't want that piece of crap

And the Lumia 900 is an oversized piece of crap with a screen that doesn't scroll properly.

andrewbares said,

And the Lumia 900 is an oversized piece of crap with a screen that doesn't scroll properly.

I think the size and feel of the 900 is perfect however the scrolling on it is inferior to any other WP I have used.

JimmyJamesRoS said,

I think the size and feel of the 900 is perfect however the scrolling on it is inferior to any other WP I have used.

I was simply making fun of the original comment I don't mind the size, but I actually do like iPhone sized devices more. It's not really important to me though.

The scrolling however is something that is universally wrong and isn't an opinion... that needs to be fixed!

-=MagMan=- said,

I guess there's no accounting for taste... The iPhone looks sophisticated, whereas the Lumia 900 looks like it belongs in a bag of Skittles.
Well theres also lack of common sense too take your pretty otter box cover and drop it from say 5 feet and see what happens ..Sophisticated thats what you bought it for ??/ Ohhh you want to be hip ?? The I know it all crowd ok funny how it comes back around to looking like the original same small worthless paperweight but your hip.. also i haven't noticed any scrolling problems actuall it much faster than my note ..

Makes sense - With Microsoft sealed shut on WP8, and whether or not phones are upgradable, they have no one to blame but themselves.

Dot Matrix said,
Makes sense - With Microsoft sealed shut on WP8, and whether or not phones are upgradable, they have no one to blame but themselves.

One more week and we'll know.

Dot Matrix said,
Makes sense - With Microsoft sealed shut on WP8, and whether or not phones are upgradable, they have no one to blame but themselves.

As if the average customer knows or cares about WP8..

Not. They'll buy whatever phone looks nice right now.

Hummm odd i just got one and a galaxy note for us i have the note but i like windows interface wish it had a bigger screen if so i would have got that instead

BuddyHM17 said,
Really? I just checked Amazon under ATT and Lumia 900 is back up to #1

When a Windows Phone is #1 on Amazon, Amazon's sales rankings are not proof that sales are good, Amazon cannot be trusted, Microsoft/Nokia/AT&T bought that ranking, etc.

When a Windows Phone is not #1 on Amazon, it is proof that sales are poor, Amazon's sales rankings are a true guide to sales, Amazon can be trusted, Microsoft/Nokia/AT&T are not advertising properly, etc.

I have not seen anyone with a WP device let alone the Lumia 900. I also do not know anyone who owns a WP device. All Androids and iPhones....and a few dumb phones as well.

oodee said,
TROLL, GET OUTTA HERE.

I am not saying anything bad about WP, just saying I have not seen anyone with one.

Settle down now and learn what a troll is.

techbeck said,

I am not saying anything bad about WP, just saying I have not seen anyone with one.

Settle down now and learn what a troll is.

and I have to agree with techbeck, I'm living in the middle of Europe and have NEVER seen anyone use a Windows Phone yet and no one is even talking about it. It's either iPhone or Android (mostly Samsung).

techbeck said,
I have not seen anyone with a WP device let alone the Lumia 900. I also do not know anyone who owns a WP device. All Androids and iPhones....and a few dumb phones as well.
I know right. Windows Phones is just unpopular I mainly see everyone with even Androids and some with iphones.

techbeck said,
I have not seen anyone with a WP device let alone the Lumia 900. I also do not know anyone who owns a WP device. All Androids and iPhones....and a few dumb phones as well.

I, on the other hand, am surprised that I have seen about 5 other people at my work place with the Lumia.

techbeck said,
I have not seen anyone with a WP device let alone the Lumia 900. I also do not know anyone who owns a WP device. All Androids and iPhones....and a few dumb phones as well.

And what exactly does this mean? Are you everywhere and can see everything to know that no one has seen a WP in the wild? Are we to believe only once a phone is seen by you then its successful?

efjay said,

And what exactly does this mean? Are you everywhere and can see everything to know that no one has seen a WP in the wild? Are we to believe only once a phone is seen by you then its successful?
it means only AND exactly what he wrote. What part of that don't you get?

vacs said,

and I have to agree with techbeck, I'm living in the middle of Europe and have NEVER seen anyone use a Windows Phone yet and no one is even talking about it. It's either iPhone or Android (mostly Samsung).

I live in Dallas and see a ton of the things. Granted there's 6 million people in the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex. But, I see them all the time, not including the people I know that own them.

Ran into a guy at a steakhouse the other day with an HD7s. Told him to DL my brother's app, YouRang, which let's you make ringtones from anything on YouTube (plug). Although, it seems to be having an issue in Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Germany, France and Spain. He's trying to fix that issue.

Point is, it's growing. Awareness is spreading. And, if what the OEMs, Carriers, and MS themselves are saying is to be believed, they will be pushing WP8 big time. Nokia will be a huge part of this.

techbeck said,
I have not seen anyone with a WP device let alone the Lumia 900. I also do not know anyone who owns a WP device. All Androids and iPhones....and a few dumb phones as well.


Yeah it's true, I hardly ever see another WP owner either. They're obviously not that popular. Hopefully the future will be better.

efjay said,

And what exactly does this mean? Are you everywhere and can see everything to know that no one has seen a WP in the wild? Are we to believe only once a phone is seen by you then its successful?

Let me explain it since you obviously do not get it....

It means that in MY experience, I have not seen anyone with a WP device. In NO WAY does MY OWN personal experience with this effect the world market in anyway.

Now, put a **** load of sarcasm in what I said and now do you get it? Seriously, it was my own view. I never claimed it otherwise and you read way to much into what I said.

I've never seen one in the wild either...nor does anyone I know even know they exist...and I live in a 2 million+ city

vacs said,

and I have to agree with techbeck, I'm living in the middle of Europe and have NEVER seen anyone use a Windows Phone yet and no one is even talking about it. It's either iPhone or Android (mostly Samsung).

And I am living in India, and I have already seen like 10 devices at various points of times in my life....from HD7 to Lumia 800......900 hasn't launched here yet!
Three of them regularly, a 800, a 710 and an Omnia.

oodee said,
TROLL, GET OUTTA HERE.

He isn't a troll, what he said was completely accurate. I've never seen anybody with a Windows Phone either, not a single one IRL and only 2 people out of about 300 friends on Facebook that I've known to have them yet I know a hell of a lot of people with Android and iPhones

oodee said,
TROLL, GET OUTTA HERE.

Here we are......................... the preferred comments of any small Pol Pot here:
You disagree.............. you are a troll..............

techbeck said,
I have not seen anyone with a WP device let alone the Lumia 900. I also do not know anyone who owns a WP device. All Androids and iPhones....and a few dumb phones as well.

Who would wanna use these slow crappy single core phones is beyond me...

oodee said,
TROLL, GET OUTTA HERE.

He's not trolling.

However I have to disagree with him. I have seen two people with a Windows Phone out in public for the first time. They both had Lumia's. My girlfriend made a comment to one girl about it. She asked them if the smartphone beta test was over. The girl replied with "This phone sucks". Her boyfriend forced her to get it.

Buttus said,
Verizon and other carriers need to get them!

And other country's, by the time it's out in the UK WP8 is just around the corner and people to just wait until then to get the latest devices. It's taken to long to get the 900 released worldwide.

Buttus said,
Verizon and other carriers need to get them!

Too late now. Everyone will be waiting for WP8, especially with the dev conference next week. They should've brought it to all cariers at launch, Galaxy S style.... or at least allowed for unlock codes so T-mob users could get in on the action. It was a huge mistake by Nokia and MS to go strictly AT&T in the states.

Gaffney said,

And other country's, by the time it's out in the UK WP8 is just around the corner and people to just wait until then to get the latest devices. It's taken to long to get the 900 released worldwide.

it's out in the UK already, available on all major networks bar T-Mobile. check out phones4u