New Windows Live Wave 4 screenshots emerge

Liveside is reporting that new screenshots of Windows Live Mail Wave 4 have surfaced, as well as a bunch of features that will be integrated into various products. They have also uncovered that Windows Live Mail Wave 4 may have fully integrated GMail support for archiving, labels and stars too, making it the first mail client to officially support these features.

Information about Windows Live Wave 4 is slowly trickling in - a few weeks ago Neowin revealed the new Windows Live Messenger Wave 4 UI, along with a bunch of features, such as better Windows 7 superbar integration, as well as tabbed chats which is a very frequently requested feature (even though some 3rd party applications offer to add it for you).

Mail screenshots have surfaced previously, but these new screenshots show the UI has come much further from a few short weeks ago. As you can see in the new screenshots below, Windows Live mail is now fully integrated with the ribbon UI, much like Outlook 2010. The new build also sports a calendar in the right sidebar, very much similar to that in Outlook 2010 - except this calendar comes straight from your Windows Live calendar.

The build of Windows Live Mail also shows it finally has conversation view, a much needed feature, especially if the company is going for better GMail integration. Take a closer look at the conversation view below.

Conversation View

Windows Live Wave 4

Please remember that while these screenshots are real, the UI may change, and will likely not reflect the final product upon release. The first public beta is expected within the next two months.

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Will definitely give it a whirl when the public beta arrives. The screenies look neat, very close to Outlook which I'm using now. Hope I can transfer all my contacts/calendar events easily and sync them with my Nokia phone, otherwise it's a no-go for me.

I use Windows Live Mail all the time and it will be a welcomed changed to see a much improved interface and integration of the Ribbon. Cannot wait for the Beta!

Regarding the conversation view in Windows Live Mail (WLM), I hope that adopt it within Windows Live Hotmail quickly, as I can't use WLM at work and it's the only big feature of Gmail I'd really like. Makes the Inbox so much tidier!

I wonder if Microsoft check's Neowin's user response, cause it seems after we said the very early design sucked, they changed a lot better with the recent changes.

I liked Windows Live Mail but ditched because it was a bit hard to do a backup/restore

Outlook 2010 on the other hand does it "automatically" as long as you don't remove your pst file

Looking good, and I hope more stable than current Windows Live Mail which occasionally hangs ... also thought we would have seen the beta by now ....

I think hotmail should get a star feature before they start supporting other peoples' implementation. In outlook you can sure as hell flag mails, they need to add that to WML and hotmail.

While I thought WLM had a simple interface, I'm glad they're finally going with the Ribbon. Brings the best of both worlds, the menu bar and the command bar. Most people probably aren't aware of the menu bar in WLM.

Xilo said,
I love Windows Live Mail. It's usable and not bloated like Outlook.

I agree and that's why I use it all the time... when I'm in Windows ;)

look like a solid mail client, looking forward to this for managing my hotmail account, would be handy if it could do multiple hotmail accounts.

I have been using WLM since Wave 3 came out and I use it with two hotmail accounts, one gmail account and Live calendar. The current version can most definitely use multiple hotmail accounts.

I like the Ribbon in Word 2007/2010 so I'm really looking forward to it coming to WLM. I'm also glad to see icons coming back to Windows (Live). I'm used to the current, icon-less look of WLM, but prefer icons (with no text, but I guess that won't happened).

One thing that I really want in WLM is Google Calendar support. WLC is good, but I prefer GCal.

JVF said,
I like the Ribbon in Word 2007/2010 so I'm really looking forward to it coming to WLM. I'm also glad to see icons coming back to Windows (Live). I'm used to the current, icon-less look of WLM, but prefer icons (with no text, but I guess that won't happened).

One thing that I really want in WLM is Google Calendar support. WLC is good, but I prefer GCal.


You can "subscribe" to ur GCal in WLC and access via WLMail that way

pikablu0530 said,

You can "subscribe" to ur GCal in WLC and access via WLMail that way

True, but what I'd really like is a two-way system in that changes are reflected on either side. At the moment only changes made to GCal will update in WLM, but if I make a change in the latter, it won't update the former.

Mikeparkie said,
Hmmm, what ever happened to slimline tasteful UI's its all big buttons for users who dont know where stuff is.

No, for people that KNOW what they are doing, they flip the minimize button on the ribbon and never freaking look at it unless they need it.

(Surprised how many people don't get that all the Ribbon designs from Office 2007 to Win7 to now Live applications can easily hide the Ribbon, and have it appear only when you click on a Ribbon Tab if you ever need to. It makes the UI the cleanest since DOS days or full screen modes without the hassle.)

Edited by thenetavenger, Jan 20 2010, 12:40am :

thenetavenger said,

No, for people that KNOW what they are doing, they flip the minimize button on the ribbon and never freaking look at it unless they need it.

(Surprised how many people don't get that all the Ribbon designs from Office 2007 to Win7 to now Live applications can easily hide the Ribbon, and have it appear only when you click on a Ribbon Tab if you ever need to. It makes the UI the cleanest since DOS days or full screen modes without the hassle.)

Exactly! I have Word hide the ribbon and it looks like notepad!

hm, I kinda like the simplicity and uncluttered look of the current version, but this look interesting.