No iPhone 4G next year

The next generation iPhone, which won't be named or shown off until June of next year, won't support 4G. According to sources close to the company and Techcrunch.com, Apple will continue to use the 3G chipset in their next model of the iPhone.

Many were hoping that the next iPhone will support 4G or even LTE, but early signs show that Apple will be taking the safe road, rather than using new, bulky and power-hungry technology in the next iPhone. This means Apple could focus on building a faster, energy-efficient phone, rather than take criticism for a device that has poor battery life.

What is even more surprising is that Apple will be producing a CDMA iPhone by years end that also won't support LTE. Not only that, but sources say that next June when Apple announces the next iPhone, those also won't support LTE. This means that Apple won't support the LTE standard until some time in 2012.

There are already 4G phones in the United States, but they are Android-powered smartphones on Sprint's WiMax network. If that isn't enough, there will be dual-mode LTE-powered Android phones early next year.

As mentioned by Techcrunch, Apple will unveil a 3G GSM and CDMA iPhone next year, which operates on any carrier around the world. This could show why there are traces of CDMA found within the iPhone's operating system. We can still hope that the iPhone comes to Verizon later this year.

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While I do love my Droid Incredible I really do miss my iPhone 3G though not AT&T. If Verizon does by some miracle get the iPhone I will seriously have to think about picking it up.

I don't know. I find it interesting that Apple is choosing not to future proof their devices when something is right around the corner like this (And already out in some areas and by some carriers). Seems very odd... Oh wait, this is Apple and that would go against their entire business model of forcing consumers to buy a new device every year... What was I thinking?

M_Lyons10 said,
I don't know. I find it interesting that Apple is choosing not to future proof their devices when something is right around the corner like this (And already out in some areas and by some carriers). Seems very odd... Oh wait, this is Apple and that would go against their entire business model of forcing consumers to buy a new device every year... What was I thinking?

well , this way they could sell to new device next year
one early 2011 another late '11

anyway it is way to early to 'assume' things , there are still two more months in 2010

M_Lyons10 said,
I don't know. I find it interesting that Apple is choosing not to future proof their devices when something is right around the corner like this (And already out in some areas and by some carriers). Seems very odd... Oh wait, this is Apple and that would go against their entire business model of forcing consumers to buy a new device every year... What was I thinking?

Look at the original iPhone. Apple is ALL about slowly adding features they could have added long before. iPhone 3G = iPhone 2G + 3G radio and GPS, things other phones had at the time the iPhone 2G came out. Same CPU, GPU, Screen, RAM.

They change I want to see is the removal of the 30-pin dock connector. Since there was an EU law or whatever that means all companies have to use micro-usb in the next few years. As it saves so many different chargers being created. But Micro-USB could be good as it means the phone would be smaller. And likely the same with other iPods. As the official cable's can be pricey, but micro-usb you can get anywhere.

Adding MicroUSB (for charging) does not necessarily mean they will remove the dock connector. The dock connector serves several functions that simply cannot be replicated with simple USB (video and audio output, for instance). If Apple removed the dock connector, it would obliterate the third party accessory market, not exactly something Apple wants to do. By the way, I really don't see how removing the dock connector is going to magically make the iPhone smaller. The connector itself is only a couple of millimeters thick, and much narrower than the phone anyway (and narrower than any phone is likely to be).

Edited by roadwarrior, Oct 11 2010, 7:01pm :

Apple will be taking the safe road, rather than using new, bulky and power-hungry technology in the next iPhone.
Even Verizon's LTE coverage will be minimal in the grand scheme of things, so they would have to include a secondary chip in the phone to be useful. Having both run would be pretty beastly, especially considering new wireless chips are notoriously power inefficient.

Considering that Apple will still want to stick with AT&T to maintain their existing customer base, and AT&T will have little to no LTE coverage, it's not a surprise to hear this even be speculated.

pickypg said,
Even Verizon's LTE coverage will be minimal in the grand scheme of things, so they would have to include a secondary chip in the phone to be useful. Having both run would be pretty beastly, especially considering new wireless chips are notoriously power inefficient.

Considering that Apple will still want to stick with AT&T to maintain their existing customer base, and AT&T will have little to no LTE coverage, it's not a surprise to hear this even be speculated.

Yes, but phones releasing on the Verizon network are required to support their CDMA and upcoming 4G service (There was a cut off date, but I forget when it was. I think it's past though.). So the fact that Apple is "allegedly" not supporting this makes it appear that it's not coming to Verizon...

Examinus said,
Why does the US use two systems anyway? Seems stupid.

Because companies here are free to innovate. Different companies came up with different standards, just like in other technology fields. In different parts of the country, each system has its advantages, no one system works "best" everywhere.

Julius Caro said,
lol @ free to innovate. IMO what works best for everyone is having ONE standard.

Exactly, which is why TV shouldn't be on the internet, cell phones, satellite, or cable networks. Over the air is a perfectly fine standard that we can ALL agree upon, so I hope you'll join me in my support of boycotting every other method studios have taken to delivering content to viewers.

Hopefully you will have used an iPhone by then and realised what you said was complete ****.

If your interested I am actually an ex-iPhone user and currently HTC Desire owner...

SK[ said,]Hopefully you will have used an iPhone by then and realised what you said was complete ****.

If your interested I am actually an ex-iPhone user and currently HTC Desire owner...

I have used iOS and currently own a desire and I agree with him.

'(o_o)' said,
Hopefully everyone will realize HTC are the best.

HTC is okay, but certainly not 'the best'. The only reason anybody ever loved HTC is the ease with which hackers can get custom firmware on their devices.

The second HTC makes it their policy to prevent hacking (the chip that reinstalls stock when there's been a hacked change, for example), people will magically change their opinions about HTC quality.

TonyLock said,
LTE?
Long Term Evolution network. Verizon's answer to GSM. That network will allow users to talk on the phone and surf the internet at the same time, whereas with their current network you cannot.

tylershaw said,
Long Term Evolution network. Verizon's answer to GSM. That network will allow users to talk on the phone and surf the internet at the same time, whereas with their current network you cannot.

Its not really just Verizon. I'm pretty sure LTE is the "official" GSM next gen tech (It is not 4G though, more 3.9G).

WelshBluebird said,

Its not really just Verizon. I'm pretty sure LTE is the "official" GSM next gen tech (It is not 4G though, more 3.9G).

I'm pretty sure 4G = LTE.

Verizon is using Wimax for their '4G'

Gothic_Rebel said,
4G why? I can get 90% of what I want on my iPhone fast enough on 3G

Who can ever complain about faster?

witalit said,

Who can ever complain about faster?


When faster comes at the cost of battery life in a mobile device, people do have a right to complain.

roadwarrior said,

When faster comes at the cost of battery life in a mobile device, people do have a right to complain.

if you don't wan't 4G you just can disable it and enjoy the choice of having or not 4G.

But Apple is not about having choice only selling the next iPhone to existing customers year after year after year...

Nicholas-c said,
Even though the idea of 4G is nice... 4G isn't worldwide and as far as i know. None-existent in the UK.
Non-existent in Southern California as well. I don't of anyone in my circle of friends who is able to use 4G with Sprint either. It may as well not exist.

Who cares, most carriers throttle their speeds so much that there is still a lot of headroom left in 3G for the average user. Also, the speeds indicated in the 4G specs are faster then what the average user has at home! So once again, who cares about 4G, when I need to stream HD video to my phone, I'll start to care.

JoeBoxr said,
Who cares, most carriers throttle their speeds so much that there is still a lot of headroom left in 3G for the average user. Also, the speeds indicated in the 4G specs are faster then what the average user has at home! So once again, who cares about 4G, when I need to stream HD video to my phone, I'll start to care.

Lack of vision.

Today's technology doesn't need that much speed, so don't develop it? Yeah, and the 1990s web didn't need broadband. Wanna go back to dial-up?

If a wireless network developed enough capacity, I'd be ALL about ditching my home broadband account and using my handset as a wifi tether for the entirety of my internet access. THAT'S what I look forward to when I hear about developing new tech.

Jeez, when did tech enthusiasts become a bunch of boring conservative old men grumbling for teenagers to get off their lawns? There are SO MANY anti-change types on tech sites these days, it's depressing. Actual old men in the 80s were more open to ANY kind of tech advance than your average 25 year old today.

/you won't NEED to stream HD to your phone until the high speed backbone is ALREADY DEVELOPED
//duh

torrentthief said,
they should just make the iphone5 larger and shove a bigger battery in there.

You mean like they did with the iPad? ;-)

Thats a bit harsh saying the iPhone has a poor battery life, My android phone only lasts 2 days under normal use, 1 if I am REALLY bored at work.

Perhaps Apple know they have a great product and just want to sit out a round to see what everyone else brings to the table, I think they deserve that?

Reading comprehension not your strong suit?

It clearly states the new 4G technology is power hungry and to build the next phone on 4G would therefore result in lesser battery life.

Teebor said,
Thats a bit harsh saying the iPhone has a poor battery life, My android phone only lasts 2 days under normal use, 1 if I am REALLY bored at work.

Perhaps Apple know they have a great product and just want to sit out a round to see what everyone else brings to the table, I think they deserve that?

Xenosion said,
Reading comprehension not your strong suit?

It clearly states the new 4G technology is power hungry and to build the next phone on 4G would therefore result in lesser battery life.

Or Apple just wants to do what they did with the first iPhone, where they don't release the latest tech "in the name of battery life" only so that they can release it in the version without adding much else. Did any 3G phones gain noticeable battery life between the iPhone 2G and the iPhone 3G? No, they did not. They just added the switch to turn 3G off, which could have been done in the original had it had 3G.

If WP7 really does take off, Apple are in real trouble with this announcement. It makes sense for them not to, but I think they'll probably throw something out last minute in order to get some customers back from WP7.

All of the above is on the ASSUMPTION, WP7 takes off.

Purify said,
If WP7 really does take off, Apple are in real trouble with this announcement. It makes sense for them not to, but I think they'll probably throw something out last minute in order to get some customers back from WP7.

All of the above is on the ASSUMPTION, WP7 takes off.

Are any of the WP7 devices coming out 4G ready?

Purify said,
If WP7 really does take off, Apple are in real trouble with this announcement. It makes sense for them not to, but I think they'll probably throw something out last minute in order to get some customers back from WP7.

All of the above is on the ASSUMPTION, WP7 takes off.

Keep in mind, Apple's response to Android's success was multi-tasking, which ultimately didn't do much to evolve the usability of iOS. It's a much-needed addition, of course, since iOS frequently requires you to leave an app to do anything--even related to the app. But the overall structure of iOS has barely changed or shown any evidence of fresh R&D.

It's kind of like how Mac OS kept the unified menu bar even after introducing OS X's implementation of multi-tasking. Sure, it's more of a hindrance now than an accomodation (was very useful in the old 'virtual desktop' style of multitasking), but dammit, Apple has a brand image to maintain, and what's a Mac without a unified menu bar?

I expect they've absorbed the 'image' of iOS at this point, and certain elements will NEVER change, even if the apps themselves no longer need them.

WelshBluebird said,
Makes sense. Not sure how far off LTE is in the USA, but in the UK we probably won't see anything until 2012 ish anyway.

Well, it's gonna be 2011 soon, and what comes after 2011? That's right, 2012. Still though, I think they should give 4G a go, and try to make that as efficient as 3G. Plus, if you want long battery life, don't go on the damn internet with the phone :\

Eraknelo said,
Plus, if you want long battery life, don't go on the damn internet with the phone :\

What kind of solution is that?
People buy smartphones to go on the internet, even if it's just facebook.

Eraknelo said,

Well, it's gonna be 2011 soon, and what comes after 2011? That's right, 2012. Still though, I think they should give 4G a go, and try to make that as efficient as 3G. Plus, if you want long battery life, don't go on the damn internet with the phone :\
Better batteries anyone. You know the ones...


Batteries been around for years that last years..

Matt Hardwick said,
Shown Off, lol Showed Off.
The Report a Problem button is there for comments such as these.

kajouma said,

It is SHOWED in American English; SHOWN in BE

Really? I live in America and I think shown sounds better, but I'm cuban so I don't know lol

fourinjuly4ij said,
No it's still definitely shown in American English.

I'm Canadian French, but I'd say "shown" on this one.

While we're at it...
"[...] which won't be named nor shown off [...]"

On the Merriam Webster's, they're pretty much saying that showed and shown are two different words in their examples.

Actually, they're both valid words but in different tenses. Nothing to do with British/American English or dialects.

Showed - simple past (I showed)
Shown - past participle (I have shown)

'Shown' is correct in this case.

djtaylor said,
Actually, they're both valid words but in different tenses. Nothing to do with British/American English or dialects.

Showed - simple past (I showed)
Shown - past participle (I have shown)

'Shown' is correct in this case.

Perhaps the British simple past is 'shew'.

warwagon said,
Oh Noes!!

Who cares about 4G anyway. The networks can rarely provide an adequate 3G service, let alone 4G. 4G can stay away thank you.

TCLN Ryster said,

Who cares about 4G anyway. The networks can rarely provide an adequate 3G service, let alone 4G. 4G can stay away thank you.

They'll have to build a new network for 4G, because I don't think the current one will support it. So IMO the only way to get better service is with 4G. The 3G network is done now, and doesn't work half of the time, this is true Major refections won't be able to bring its reliability too high.

TCLN Ryster said,

Who cares about 4G anyway. The networks can rarely provide an adequate 3G service, let alone 4G. 4G can stay away thank you.

Current tech is bad, so don't develop new tech?

Huh?