Nokia and Apple team up against Samsung

Nokia and Apple aren't the friendliest of companies to one another and that makes a lot of sense considering the state of the mobile market. So many people might be surprised to learn that the Finnish company has just filed an amicus brief alongside Apple to help them get an injunction against Samsung.

Apple has been trying to get an injunction against many of Samsung's devices ever since last year when Apple won a historic trial. The company was awarded a record breaking $1.05 billion as damages for copyright infringement by Samsung, but a judge nearly halved that only a few days ago. An injunction has also been denied for the Cupertino company, the judge arguing that Apple must prove that the patented features were "important drivers" of demand for the offending devices.

Apple has filed an appeal and Nokia has joined them in a bid to discourage what they see as a dangerous precedent. Nokia's lawyers argue that getting an injunction should not be so hard. Judges making companies jump through hoops are setting a dangerous precedent and Nokia warns that failing to grant this injunction "could cause wide-ranging damage to the United States patent protection landscape."

It's very interesting to see Nokia side with Apple on this case, especially because not too long ago they were fighting each other. Then again this gives further credence to an earlier rumor that stated the two companies had teamed up against Samsung.

Via: Ars Technica Source: Reuters

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A complete act of desperation from a company that gambled on an unproven platform, lost, and is fast losing relevance.

Apple and Nokia...bunch of idiots. Yea, lets get an injunction on products which are mostly out data and not sold/produced anymore. Seems like everyone is scared of Samsung and they only way they can compete, is to sue. Pathetic.

Torolol said,
samsung hasn't sue Microsoft yet, when plugged Samsung Galaxy makes Windows deactivated.
That makes the Galaxy look bad in their users.

http://www.eightforums.com/dri...y-comp-deactivates-win.html

http://social.technet.microsof...018-4989-a75b-031aebafecd9/

Though this also shown how bad Windows 8 handle its own activations,
as its possible for phone to disable it, albeit temporarly.
Virii could exploited this.

wierd my s3 didnt deactivate my windows 8 install

Torolol said,
Virii could exploited this.

True, but you forget why viruses are written nowadays... they aren't written for sh*ts and giggles. A virus that deactivates your copy of Windows, probably prompting messages of "You might be a victim of software counterfeiting" is sure to raise suspicion.

Still. Strange issue.

These two are nuts: getting an injunction without proving damages is an easy way to abuse the law to cripple competitors.

I don't think Nokia are teaming up with Apple, there's no evidence of this, they are just reiterating the damage the judge can do if Samsung gets away with this. As the saying goes, if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile.

AKA "You're going to make it harder for us to extort each other! Please don't!"

This isn't going to end well. Hopefully the judge tells Nokia to stick their nose somewhere else.

remixedcat said,
Does Nokia use any Samsung components?

If I remember correctly Samsung delayed the component shipments to Nokia some time in the past (not sure if on purpose or accidentally) and Nokia was looking for alternatives but I don't know for sure how it ended up.

Also I think this has nothing to do with Apple at the moment. There was an article a while back the Samsung has had it's problems with Nokia before when OLED came out which supposedly was Nokia's component but which Samsung canceled the order for and released their own products with it.

Edited by alwaysonacoffebreak, Mar 7 2013, 9:51am :

alwaysonacoffebreak said,

If I remember correctly Samsung delayed the component shipments to Nokia some time in the past (not sure if on purpose or accidentally) and Nokia was looking for alternatives but I don't know for sure how it ended up.

Also I think this has nothing to do with Apple at the moment. There was an article a while back the Samsung has had it's problems with Nokia before when OLED came out which supposedly was Nokia's component but which Samsung canceled the order for and released their own products with it.

http://www.neowin.net/news/nok...p-samsung-as-parts-supplier

remixedcat said,
Does Nokia use any Samsung components?

Not any more. Nokia hates Samsung pretty much because they copy all their designs and ideas. There have also been numerous cases where Samsung has (although unconfirmed whether intentional it's pretty obvious) delayed or cancelled component orders to Nokia and other handset manufacturers only for that part to appear in next gen Samsung devices.

Unfortunately Samsung do copy ideas and designs, one fairly recent one is the exhibition of "NEW" flexible glass at CES. Nokia had that about 2 years ago. Anyway, Nokia (Microsoft as well for that matter) and Apple are actually very friendly towards each other now because they both have common goals in the mobile space, The enemies that Nokia and Apple share are Google and Samsung.

It's funny that the case of Samsung vs Apple is historical but the case of Nokia vs Apple a while back where Nokia utterly destroyed Apple in court.

Nokia got away with a licensing deal, lump sum and licensing payments. So I woud't call Apple and Nokia best friends but as you can see it seems like the Apple and Microsoft camps have both common interest in removing Android from the marketplace.

ingramator said,

Not any more. Nokia hates Samsung pretty much because they copy all their designs and ideas. There have also been numerous cases where Samsung has (although unconfirmed whether intentional it's pretty obvious) delayed or cancelled component orders to Nokia and other handset manufacturers only for that part to appear in next gen Samsung devices.

Unfortunately Samsung do copy ideas and designs, one fairly recent one is the exhibition of "NEW" flexible glass at CES. Nokia had that about 2 years ago. Anyway, Nokia (Microsoft as well for that matter) and Apple are actually very friendly towards each other now because they both have common goals in the mobile space, The enemies that Nokia and Apple share are Google and Samsung.

Something I commented in the other article. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k6r2HQY9Ws

You can search.. Samsung has flexible OLED for sometime already?
http://www.youtube.com/results...0...0.0...1ac.1.CHWC_zjJWZM

It dates back to even 2005!
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/47553.html

And the videos of it date to back 2008.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2008/11/samsung-shows-f/

Edited by tanjiajun_34, Mar 7 2013, 3:39pm :