Nokia begins work on first Windows Phone handset

It looks as if work has begun on the first Nokia smartphones that will be based on Microsoft's Windows Phone software, at least according to an interview that took place with former Microsoft executive and Nokia's current CEO, Stephen Elop.

Elop spoke to Reuters today and said “We're right now, today, having people work on the first Windows Phone devices from Nokia.” The news doesn't really come as much of a surprise to many, especially as Nokia hopes to have Windows Phone based hardware out by early next year.

Currently the agreement between Microsoft and Nokia still has to be finalized, something that both companies expect to see happen within the next few months. Microsoft will pay Finnish phone company more than one billion US Dollars as part of the pair's new Windows Phone 7 partnership according to reports.

The deal, which is believed to run for five years, is expected to be beneficial for both parties, with Microsoft gaining a new partner with a track record for impressive hardware, and Nokia being able to reduce costs while still being in possession of a potentially strong software platform for its handsets. Elop was also quick to state that he sees no reason for Microsoft to buy out Nokia, something that has been speculated over the last month or so.

Nokia has struggled to keep up with companies such as Apple over the past few years, especially in the United States where they are not as well known as they are in Europe, while Microsoft has also seen its market share plummet in the smartphone market. Nokia will be hoping that the deal pays off in the end; especially with their share prices dropping by nearly 30 percent after the team up with Microsoft was announced.

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I had a windows phone 7 device but had to sell it due to it missing too many features I needed. However I know with updates windows phone will be amazing!

I will just wait till maybe next year before seeing if the platform has had a couple of updates worth while.

The camera hardware from Nokia will be very good as their hardware cases has been top notch. This marriage I think will be a good one and they both will grow because of it.

WP7 is better than many give it credit for. The hardware has been the problem. The Samsung Focus is a great phone and does exactly what it was designed to do. I find myself going back to that phone more often than not lately. I have tweaked and hacked by EVO, Droid X and Fascinate and although it is nice to have all these widgets and ability to customize the ROM at the end of the day the WP7 just works and it makes me want to MOD less. I have spend countless hours playing with ROMS like CM, MYNs', etc. I am done.

I would like a Sammy Galaxy S II with a WP7 OS. The Mango update will be an exciting update.

I hope Nokia does not do a rush job. They really need to wow us with a solid device. I I will blame Microsoft for not having the software features, but I don't want any glitchy hardward not running at least what MS had on tap at the time... I really want them to succeed, if onlty to continue to get all the big players to continue to innovation in this market.

They need to get cut and past in there in a majory way. Copy some of the things cool happening on Android (like the ability to move text and link info from phone to pc and vice versa) and iOS (honetsly I don't know in this case WP7 seems to have a very responsive interface and that is really the only thing that makes me happy about iPhone and well the Contacts meta-data)... which brings me to allow the separation of Facebook and basic Contacts info. It might be nice to have the option to view the different datasets together in "View" but ... that is one majory thing that makes me turn up my nose at WP7.

I sooooo do not want my Contacts (my Roladex basically) commingling with the volitile nature of a social network. I want both datasources to be stored separate with the ability to maybe synch with control. e.g. use one to import additional information from one to another... but not all at once or nothing. All or nothing is a bad way to start anyone off - just do not do it. I have not really had the opportunity beyond what I heard about it... otherwise all good stuff. But the contacts and cut and paste at least to my 3GS ability is a must have if they want me to get on that platform. AND you know what, you see I'm not even complaining about not having enough apps... I'm talking just the base functionality (Phone, Media Player, and Internet access - the quality of user experience).

mranderson1st said,

They need to get cut and past in there in a majory way.

agreed

mranderson1st said,

I sooooo do not want my Contacts (my Roladex basically) commingling with the volitile nature of a social network.

Neither do I, but from my understanding if you don't use Facebook there won't be a problem with that either - to those who wonder: Yes there are still people who weren't sucked into Facebook!

mranderson1st said,

I want both datasources to be stored separate with the ability to maybe synch with control. e.g. use one to import additional information from one to another... but not all at once or nothing.

WP7 is about aggregating information from different sources, think you won't be able to select the contacts that are to be linked…

In theory Nokia are nothing special now, just another handset manufacturer. As much as Symbian had fallen behind the times a little, it really worked and made Nokia phones what they were in the past. Nokia should go all out and try each OS.

Orange Battery said,
In theory Nokia are nothing special now, just another handset manufacturer. As much as Symbian had fallen behind the times a little, it really worked and made Nokia phones what they were in the past. Nokia should go all out and try each OS.

Symbian had fallen behind the times six years ago and rarely worked without errors for any phone since.

THat will never work since most people arnt as open as windows sharing everything with the world of hackers and making windows open. C'mon people its in the name windows. Everyone can look through a window.

enocheed said,
THat will never work since most people arnt as open as windows sharing everything with the world of hackers and making windows open. C'mon people its in the name windows. Everyone can look through a window.

Um... What???

MFH said,

Yeah, didn't get that one either…

You know, open windows, look through windows, sharing everything with hackers that like the windows open... seems obvious to me.. #_#

And yet a rushed Nokia phone with a default Windows 7 interface will cause reaction of we waited just to see this, it's not better then xyz (other win7 phones). With android / apple fanboys jumping in.

etempest said,
And yet a rushed Nokia phone with a default Windows 7 interface will cause reaction of we waited just to see this, it's not better then xyz (other win7 phones). With android / apple fanboys jumping in.

I doubt seriously it will be "rushed"... And Nokia's strength is in their hardware, which would be a selling point right there.

M_Lyons10 said,

I doubt seriously it will be "rushed"... And Nokia's strength is in their hardware, which would be a selling point right there.

This was more for the people wanting to Nokia to go faster then they are with there plans.

MS-Nokia Whatever phone you are making please offer bigger capacity, 8GB is not enough.
Right now my Samsung Focus is full to the brim, and I have't touch my zune 80 since I got this bad boy. 8-16-32-64 options with super AMOLED screen and of course 4 inch displays.

I better start saving for one of these Nokia phone from now. Buying your phones outright is the ish.

WP7FTW!!!!

Think you currently have the max capacity WP7 devivce. Here in Austria you can't get more than 16GB - one or two devices! - and no phone available offers a SD card slot…

wetworker said,
MS-Nokia Whatever phone you are making please offer bigger capacity, 8GB is not enough.
Right now my Samsung Focus is full to the brim, and I have't touch my zune 80 since I got this bad boy. 8-16-32-64 options with super AMOLED screen and of course 4 inch displays.

I better start saving for one of these Nokia phone from now. Buying your phones outright is the ish.

WP7FTW!!!!


Just put a 64GB microSD is your Focus.

day2die said,

Just put a 64GB microSD is your Focus.

The Focus takes SDHC which has a Max capacity of 32 GB, bringing the device total to 40 GB

/Pretty sure it does not take SDXC

day2die said,

Just put a 64GB microSD is your Focus.

How's he gonna do that? microSDHC has a max capacity of 32GB!

MFH said,
Think you currently have the max capacity WP7 devivce. Here in Austria you can't get more than 16GB - one or two devices! - and no phone available offers a SD card slot…

well must be glad Nokia is going to make the phones. Nokia has SD slots in almost every phone they ever made. Altho often they arent easy accessable (behind the battery) but ah well

Shadowzz said,

well must be glad Nokia is going to make the phones. Nokia has SD slots in almost every phone they ever made. Altho often they arent easy accessable (behind the battery) but ah well

Being behind the battery won't be a problem, as WP7 doesn't really support swapping the cards. As long as the slots aren't as inaccessible as in current devices - having to take out countles screws and voiding the warranty…

wetworker said,
MS-Nokia Whatever phone you are making please offer bigger capacity, 8GB is not enough.
Right now my Samsung Focus is full to the brim, and I have't touch my zune 80 since I got this bad boy. 8-16-32-64 options with super AMOLED screen and of course 4 inch displays.

I better start saving for one of these Nokia phone from now. Buying your phones outright is the ish.

WP7FTW!!!!


LOL, how are you friend? Long time no see.
Lets hope that Nokia build a super phone with WP7 because my Samsung Vibrant has more capacity than your Focus.

MFH said,

Being behind the battery won't be a problem, as WP7 doesn't really support swapping the cards. As long as the slots aren't as inaccessible as in current devices - having to take out countless screws and voiding the warranty…

Ye i personally don't find it a problem as well that its wedged somewhere behind the battery or something.
But just pointing out that Nokia is known to add SD slots to their phones (as many Americans never seen/used a Nokia ).
So big chance they'll keep adding them in the new phones, i certainly hope so. I really miss Nokia in the market Got a fancy LC but im still using my 6410i. The thing just wont die even after getting thrown out of a window from the 2nd floor, getting drowned numerous times and other destructive measures that would've surely destroyed any smartphone.

but the best part is that Nokia always used same power plugs for all their phones. And not different ones for different models. And eventho the EU states all phones need one of those USB connectors (same as PS3controller one). barely any phone follows that.
I hope Nokia continues this so like years ago i can charge my phone pretty much anywhere as everyone (still) has a Nokia charger.

This Nokia news isn't a surprise. I'm sure Nokia wants to get at least 2 WP7 devices out by holiday 2011. I also expect a 2nd batch of WP7 devices in Oct-Nov running v7.5 as well.

GP007 said,
This Nokia news isn't a surprise. I'm sure Nokia wants to get at least 2 WP7 devices out by holiday 2011. I also expect a 2nd batch of WP7 devices in Oct-Nov running v7.5 as well.

Yeah, that's what I figured too. Though I figured there would be a few devices in the sprint as well, so I'm surprised that there is no news...

Microsoft needs to get off their duffs and start telling the carriers that they are helping make their platform basically an "also ran". I am a proud and happy WP7 user (Dell Venue Pro), but I'm extremely irritated as of late to how slow Microsoft is in shipping the updates, and the situation with the carriers actually impacting my ability to get those updates.

If carriers can sell just a SIM card, then they can allow any update without worry too. Just pass off the tech support to Microsoft and be done with it. This is getting ridiculous.

Hercules said,
Microsoft needs to get off their duffs and start telling the carriers that they are helping make their platform basically an "also ran". I am a proud and happy WP7 user (Dell Venue Pro), but I'm extremely irritated as of late to how slow Microsoft is in shipping the updates, and the situation with the carriers actually impacting my ability to get those updates.

If carriers can sell just a SIM card, then they can allow any update without worry too. Just pass off the tech support to Microsoft and be done with it. This is getting ridiculous.

You do know the roughly 3 week delay was caused by a bug in the pre-update that effected a small amount of devices. Their public target of Q1 of 2011 has not been bypassed.

You can wait around 3 months but you can't wait an extra 3 weeks.

Hercules said,
Microsoft needs to get off their duffs and start telling the carriers that they are helping make their platform basically an "also ran". I am a proud and happy WP7 user (Dell Venue Pro), but I'm extremely irritated as of late to how slow Microsoft is in shipping the updates, and the situation with the carriers actually impacting my ability to get those updates.

If carriers can sell just a SIM card, then they can allow any update without worry too. Just pass off the tech support to Microsoft and be done with it. This is getting ridiculous.

Think about this, MS designed WP7 with the concept that all WP7 devices will always be up to date with the latest update of WP7 , you can compare that to Android and see the difference , some phones are still stuck on 2.1

Beastage said,

Think about this, MS designed WP7 with the concept that all WP7 devices will always be up to date with the latest update of WP7 , you can compare that to Android and see the difference , some phones are still stuck on 2.1

From an Android perspective, here's the difference:

Scenario 1 (You're a typical uninformed user)
Just bought the latest and greatest Android phone. A few months go by and you get a message about getting an update for the phone that you have never seen before. You call support because it looks strange to you.

Scenario 2 (You're a typical uninformed user)
You bought an Android phone. One of your arrogant friends who frequents NeoWin tells you "Ha ha, your phone isn't eligible for Gingerbread update. Blah, blah, blah. Fragmentation, fragmentation, fragmentation." You are like "What's a Gingrebread?".

Scenario 3 (You are Tech Savvy User)
You buy an Android phone. You find out that your phone is or isn't getting the latest update. You don't care because you are rooted and you can load custom ROMs.

My point is your average user are unaware of updates for phones (much less computers). It comes down to what features your phone has and ease of use. When you preach to a crowd of tech savvy users about updates for phones, we look at it like "Dude, my phone is already running the latest ROM thanks to the help of XDA".

UndergroundWire said,

Scenario 3 (You are Tech Savvy User)
You buy an Android phone. You find out that your phone is or isn't getting the latest update. You don't care because you are rooted and you can load custom ROMs.

Yeah, couse every tech savvy user does that……

MFH said,

Yeah, couse every tech savvy user does that……

All the tech savvy people that I know that have an iFony or Android device have jailbroken/rooted there devices. The other three friends of mine that are not tech savvy were convinced one way or another by me or one of my friends on the benefits of jailbreaking or rooting.

UndergroundWire said,

All the tech savvy people that I know that have an iFony or Android device have jailbroken/rooted there devices. The other three friends of mine that are not tech savvy were convinced one way or another by me or one of my friends on the benefits of jailbreaking or rooting.


So, all those tech savvy you knew represent all tech savvy in the world? I'm a tech savvy but I didn't jailbreak my iPhone.

FarCry3r said,

So, all those tech savvy you knew represent all tech savvy in the world? I'm a tech savvy but I didn't jailbreak my iPhone.

I guess us New Yorker's who are tech savvy know what we are doing. But seriously, you're actually going to argue with me that if a tech savvy user who can't have his device updated any further is not going to jailbreak or root there phones? I really don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you. I'm not. All of my friends know this and have done it.

I've loaded custom hybrid ROMs on all my Blackberry devices I ever owned. I've rooted the four Android devices (Droid, Droid Incredible, Motorola Xoom, Thunderbolt) I own as well.

Do me a favor and please read why Jailbreaking and Rooting is beneficial. I've never had any problems with warranty because I know what I am doing.

Benefits of Jailbreaking:http://goo.gl/eHdih
Benefits of Rooting: http://goo.gl/b95C

UndergroundWire said,

I guess us New Yorker's who are tech savvy know what we are doing. But seriously, you're actually going to argue with me that if a tech savvy user who can't have his device updated any further is not going to jailbreak or root there phones? I really don't mean to sound like I'm attacking you. I'm not. All of my friends know this and have done it.

I've loaded custom hybrid ROMs on all my Blackberry devices I ever owned. I've rooted the four Android devices (Droid, Droid Incredible, Motorola Xoom, Thunderbolt) I own as well.

Do me a favor and please read why Jailbreaking and Rooting is beneficial. I've never had any problems with warranty because I know what I am doing.

Benefits of Jailbreaking:http://goo.gl/eHdih
Benefits of Rooting: http://goo.gl/b95C


I'm not arguing anything. Did I said that tech savvy CAN'T have their devices updated? Definitely NO. What I'm trying to imply is, that is you (and your friends) as a tech savvy and your view certainly doesn't represent all tech savvies all around the world. And I'm just an example of that exclusion.

FarCry3r said,

I'm not arguing anything. Did I said that tech savvy CAN'T have their devices updated? Definitely NO. What I'm trying to imply is, that is you (and your friends) as a tech savvy and your view certainly doesn't represent all tech savvies all around the world. And I'm just an example of that exclusion.

It's interesting. I wonder how many people on this forum share your views / my views. http://www.neowin.net/forum/to...-rootjailbreak-your-device/