Nokia building 8-inch tablet, codenamed ‘Illusionist'

Image above: Lumia 2520

Nokia has already pulled back the covers on one tablet, the Lumia 2520 and it looks like they are about to build an 8-inch device, if the trust-worthy @evleaks is to be believed.

According to the tweet, and @evleaks has a long history of leaking credible Nokia content, the Finnish company is building an 8-inch tablet that will run Windows RT and is codenamed the ‘Illusionist’.

Little else is known, but it should not come as a major surprise that Nokia is going to be building another tablet in the smaller class size to help it compete in the low-cost tablet market. Seeing at it runs Windows RT, just like its bigger brother the 2520, makes a lot of sense even though Bay Trail tablets offer up many competitive advantages too. For Nokia, they need to master only one OS for tablets, rather than Windows RT and Windows 8.1.

Nokia is likely building on Windows RT to appease Microsoft, who will be acquiring the device division from Nokia. As it stands now, only Microsoft and Nokia will be selling Windows RT products.

No release date, price, or images of the device yet but if the past is to be repeated, all this information should surface soon.

Source: @evleaks

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Let's hope this one will have a "true" GPS in it (not the other crap that's in the 2520), as well as a (3G/4G/LTE) SIM card slot for those of us who travel overseas. It will be easier to just buy a chip with a data plan for a week or so. So we don't need to incur roaming charges. That would be a very happy day for international/traveling users.

Yes this is what I want. I've had my surface Pro since it was released and love it but I have found I can get by using metro apps 90% of the time and would love a smaller form factor RT device.

Give me a smaller RT tablet with good specs and 10HR battery life for 250$ and I'll jump at it.

Please make it good and make it well priced.

For windows rt I feel the 8 inch for factor makes the most sense. Anything bigger and you will want a Surface Pro or similarly spec'd machine.

The only "advantage" Bay Trail devices have on an 8" tablet is that they will run all Windows malware and slow down over time... You know, so you can feel like you are using a "real" Windows device. Using desktop software on such a device will be painful.

I predict there will be a sea-change in perception over the next 12-months, and the OEMs who abandoned Windows RT will be caught holding the bag while Microsoft and Nokia clean up. (Dell Venue 8 Pro notwithstanding).

Frankly, this is the only outcome possible if Windows is to succeed as a mobile operating system on consumer devices. Mainstream consumers don't want the complexity of PCs on their mobile devices--they buy tablets because they work like their smartphones. All the supposed benefits of x86 are actually drawbacks for most people on a tablet device.

StandingInAlley said,
Oh God! Not another RT Tablet by Nokia

There are lots of x86 tablets if that's what you want. As the apps become better in the store though, fewer people need to run the desktop and legacy apps on a mini tablet of all things.

They aren't as good as Lumia 2520 or Surface 2. Unfortunately both Surface Pro's are expensive.

Coming to the apps, they will still be some which won't ever be ported or work on RT like iTunes and alternative browsers like FF or Chrome. IE is poor. Check MJ's review of Surface 2 where she blasted how horrible IE was on her Surface 2.

The only reason I'm picking Surface 2 is due to MS Office and USB drive support else I would happily pick iPad

I read somewhere that with the latest updates IE11 is much better and more stable now. Do let us know how you found it after installing all the latest patches from Windows Update.

'' Nokia is likely building on Windows RT to appease Microsoft, who will be acquiring the device division from Nokia. ''

If they are going to be bought anyway then Nokia doesnt need to do that unless Microsoft is already running the show behind the scenes. But that would make them a bit ahead of themselves as the EU loves their iPads and hates Microsoft. They will not easily let Microsoft gain one of the best device makers in the world.

It seems to me that Another reason to go for RT would be that Nokia knows the hardware. RT runs on ARM processors just like Windows Phone. The two will also merge at some point. So basically they can apply existing competences to building these devices.

Ronnet said,
'' Nokia is likely building on Windows RT to appease Microsoft, who will be acquiring the device division from Nokia. ''

If they are going to be bought anyway then Nokia doesnt need to do that unless Microsoft is already running the show behind the scenes. But that would make them a bit ahead of themselves as the EU loves their iPads and hates Microsoft. They will not easily let Microsoft gain one of the best device makers in the world.

It seems to me that Another reason to go for RT would be that Nokia knows the hardware. RT runs on ARM processors just like Windows Phone. The two will also merge at some point. So basically they can apply existing competences to building these devices.


If they are ready to launch it shortly my guess is that this is a Nokia project; it takes time to develop it.

Microsoft wanted to cancel the Lumia tablets because you don't want to buy (and own the brand) of two competing tablets, unless you market one for leisure (Surface), mid-range (Lumia) and work (Pro 2). Microsoft isn't allowed to interfere with Nokia as the EU would see that Microsoft already has big influence, and acquiring the business wouldn't bring anything better for customers.

I really don't see the harm in having more than one device. People talk like their should just be the Surface 2 and not anything else running RT. I am sure Microsoft would love Lenovo, Asus, Toshiba, Acer, Dell, etc, etc all to be making RT devices. So if they are not, then why shouldn't MS build two different style devices themselves (one by their Nokia group and one by their Surface group - one it all goes through).

I want to have Surface and Lumia tablets from Microsoft, but you have to see it from their point of view. You will be in control of two competiting design, engineering and manufacturing, marketing teams. Surely the best option (as a business) is to get rid of one. However, I could see them being two different product lines at Microsoft.

Thanks, but somehow without any corroboration by better sources I don't really believe what Mr. Murtazin (whom I've never heard of) has to say. Also, even if he did overhear something it could simply have been the personal view of some MS exec or one side's view in an internal discussion over at MS about the fate of Nokia's products post-purchase.

Anyway, choice is good IMO and at this point in RT's existence I'm sure MS will be happy with any sales of the ARM version, even if they are the sole manufacturers of both devices on the market.

Sorry but just as a side question to those running Windows RT tablet and also use an iPod....
What do you guys use as an iTunes alternative to transfer music?

Did he not tweet earlier that it would have a stylus ? could be epic, a nicely done 8inch tablet with a stylus that works. You hear me Mr Dell ?

If you're thinking of buying one for note taking, don't. What a huge disappointment I had high hopes but the Synaptics-based tech is almost useless for art or writing. Check out the lengthy thread on forum.tabletpcreview.com, and there are lots of YouTube videos too.

If this Nokia tablet includes a Wacom-based digitizer I'll probably be one of the first in line to get one. Hope they get it right...

I'd love to have a Nokia tablet running full windows 8
anyway, windows rt may suitable for my mom, she's a teacher, having an 8-inch tablet with office running on it is still good

I'm really interested in seeing the 2520 in person. I love the Lumia look but I'm afraid the accessories won't be as sleek as my Surface (namely the keyboard). If Nokia can do an 8" in portrait mode (preferably 16:10) and keep the Lumia styling I'll buy it in an instant.