Nokia SeaRay, Sabre and Ace specs leak?

Nokia may be planning to wait until late in 2011 to ship its first smartphones with Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 operating system inside. However a new rumor claims to have the hardware specs for three of those WP7-based Nokia phones. MyNokiablog.com reports via an unnamed tipster that the hardware specs are for two previously reported on phones, the Nokia Sea Ray and the Nokia Sabre, along with a newly revealed and high end phone, the Nokia Ace.

According to the site, the Nokia SeaRay will have a 3.7 inch AMOLED touch screen, a 1.4 Ghz processor, 16 GB of storage, and an eight megapixel camera. The Nokia Saber will also have a 3.7 inch LCD display, a 1.4 Ghz processor, 8 GB of storage, and a five megapixel camera. It also says it will have an "interchangeable back cover."

However both phones pale in comparison to the hardware specs of the Nokia Ace. If these details are indeed true, it will have a big 4.3 inch touch screen, a 1.4 Ghz CPU, 8 megapixel camera with auto focus, 16 GB of storage and support for the faster LTE wireless network. The blog claims that the Nokia Ace will be sold by AT&T in the first quarter of 2012.

None of the hardware specs for the phones show that they have dual core processors, although it's possible that detail was left out. In any case, Nokia is expected to officially reveal its Windows Phone 7 devices at its Nokia World event in London on October 26.

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Microsoft has said they aren't supporting dual core processors because of the current tradeoffs of performance versus battery life. Besides, even with dual-core processors, the scrolling performance in WP7 is still a lot smoother.

dagamer34 said,
Microsoft has said they aren't supporting dual core processors because of the current tradeoffs of performance versus battery life. Besides, even with dual-core processors, the scrolling performance in WP7 is still a lot smoother.

I hope this is the case. I've had to revert back to an old motorola dumb phone and the battery life is great. I've only had to charge it once this week and its still got half a bar of charge left. Compaired to my iphone that needs to be charged at least every otherday. Sure I'm not doing all that much with this dumb phone just text and phone calls but i'm actually starting to miss long battery life as there as been a few times I've pulled my iphone out and found it unexpectable having a low battery when I've wanted to use it.

sagum said,

I hope this is the case. I've had to revert back to an old motorola dumb phone and the battery life is great. I've only had to charge it once this week and its still got half a bar of charge left. Compaired to my iphone that needs to be charged at least every otherday. Sure I'm not doing all that much with this dumb phone just text and phone calls but i'm actually starting to miss long battery life as there as been a few times I've pulled my iphone out and found it unexpectable having a low battery when I've wanted to use it.

MS seems to be thinking about battery life first and then everything else. Besides, outside of games, nothing will really need or take advantage of a 2nd core.

GP007 said,

MS seems to be thinking about battery life first and then everything else. Besides, outside of games, nothing will really need or take advantage of a 2nd core.

ya.. and also since they use the graphics acceleration for games doesnt that sort of take the place of the second core?

Coolaaron88 said,

If Nokia phones have expandable storage, then problem solved

Even if they have a sdcard slot for expanding the memory (almost all WP7 have todate) beaware it IS tied to the system. so if you replace it you'd have to do a restore and lose any information already stored on the phone.

"However both phones pale in comparison to the hardware specs of the Nokia Ace." Umm, do they? Ace's apparent specs seem fairly similar to that of SeaRay's. Slight exaggeration there, I think.

Manish said,
"However both phones pale in comparison to the hardware specs of the Nokia Ace." Umm, do they? Ace's apparent specs seem fairly similar to that of SeaRay's. Slight exaggeration there, I think.

well the screen is way bigger, double the storage, also has real LTE 4G which is a big step up.. I think that this one is going to be more premium feeling instead of just specs.. those specs are pretty impressive but might change after the iphone 5 comes out

Lachlan said,

well the screen is way bigger, double the storage, also has real LTE 4G which is a big step up.. I think that this one is going to be more premium feeling instead of just specs.. those specs are pretty impressive but might change after the iphone 5 comes out


The screen size is only 0.6in larger, both SeaRay and Ace have 16GB internal storage and LTE-support seems to be the only significant difference. Like I said, not enough to warrant the phrase - "pale in comparison". But that's just my opinion. I also don't think those specs are "pretty impressive" for a yet-to-be-released smartphone.

But I thought WP7 only required a 200MHz processor to power 42" displays!?....I kid, not bad specs, it'll be interesting to see the design though.

Hollow.Droid said,
But I thought WP7 only required a 200MHz processor to power 42" displays!?....I kid, not bad specs, it'll be interesting to see the design though.

Actually, MS did release a 2nd spec for lower end phones, but I forget what the base CPU speed is, i'd have to do a search.

*Edit* seems they didn't change the CPU, or didn't set it yet, it could be 800Mhz though.

It's hard to get excited over these when the specs are virtually identical to every other phone out there. If anything 3.7" is a bit small nowadays, with 4" becoming the new standard and 4.3-5" becoming the new large. More than that and you're into tablet territory.

As for the no-dualcores policy... does anyone have any benchmarks of the performance difference? Battery life may be poor but if the performance is that much better then Microsoft risks being left behind the competition.

theyarecomingforyou said,
It's hard to get excited over these when the specs are virtually identical to every other phone out there. If anything 3.7" is a bit small nowadays, with 4" becoming the new standard and 4.3-5" becoming the new large. More than that and you're into tablet territory.

As for the no-dualcores policy... does anyone have any benchmarks of the performance difference? Battery life may be poor but if the performance is that much better then Microsoft risks being left behind the competition.

um 4G 4.3" screen, 1.4GHz..

I dont understand how a dual core 1 GHz is soooooo much better then a single core 1.4Ghz? seriously its a phone.. that is like have a desktop that has 8 cores at 2 GHz vs 4 at 3GHz.. i would go with the quad core cause the other is just overkill.. these phones are just running little games and tasks.. If anything i would want them to put better graphics in these and leave the CPU alone

Lachlan said,

um 4G 4.3" screen, 1.4GHz..

I dont understand how a dual core 1 GHz is soooooo much better then a single core 1.4Ghz? seriously its a phone.. that is like have a desktop that has 8 cores at 2 GHz vs 4 at 3GHz.. i would go with the quad core cause the other is just overkill.. these phones are just running little games and tasks.. If anything i would want them to put better graphics in these and leave the CPU alone

You'd be surprised at the difference dual core makes and not at the expense of battery. With the quality of games alone you're going to need dual core at the moment to future proof yourself safely, regardless of the platform. These devices are nice right now, but fast forward 6-12 months and the WP7 platform might find itself lacking in the high end apps/games as a result.

Dual Core vs Single core is that even with Single core WP7 appears to be smoother and more responsive from an Interface perspective than some of the Dual Core packing phones floating around.

Hopefully this is true. Samsung is likely to release it's WP equivalent to Galaxy S II in Q4 or Q1 and it would be great if Nokia offered something with similar specs.

The only reason I have games on my phone is to entertain my kids when we have to travel or they have to sit and wait for something. The screen is way too small for me to play games and really enjoy them. That's what my PC and wide screen monitor are for.

If Nokia is serious, how about a 14 megapixel camera, 32 gigs of storage, a 1200 pixel display and a 4.5 inch screen, with surround sound and the best speakerphone on the market, and thinner than anything out there. Too much too ask for? Well, I'm asking. Oh yeah, since I'm on a boat a lot how about waterproof while your at it. I'm STILL waiting for some test comparison pics on that fujitsu phone. What's with that?

jimmyfal said,
If Nokia is serious, how about a 14 megapixel camera, 32 gigs of storage, a 1200 pixel display and a 4.5 inch screen, with surround sound and the best speakerphone on the market, and thinner than anything out there. Too much too ask for? Oh yeah, since I'm on a boat a lot how about waterproof while your at it.

You can use an N8 (best mobile camera) and stick it in a plastic bag to shoot video underwater (or keep it dry on boat).
Like these guys did: http://vimeo.com/15874124
The N8 also has the second loudest speakerphone on the market AFAIK (the loudest is a Nokia dumbphone). Unfortunately it's a mono.
It's 16GB in-built but you can add a 32GB microSD card for 48GB.

jimmyfal said,
If Nokia is serious, how about a 14 megapixel camera, 32 gigs of storage, a 1200 pixel display and a 4.5 inch screen, with surround sound and the best speakerphone on the market, and thinner than anything out there. Too much too ask for? Well, I'm asking. Oh yeah, since I'm on a boat a lot how about waterproof while your at it. I'm STILL waiting for some test comparison pics on that fujitsu phone. What's with that?

Right now I'm really glad you don't work with any major company that makes mobile phones.

Really, megapixels do not matter when you're talking about camera quality. You want lens quality and sensor size.
Storage: okay, more is better, but 16gb can be considered a lot nowadays.
1200 pixel display? Are you serious? Do you realize that you'll be trading in application compatibility, battery life AND speed for just a bit more sharpness? Did you realize your phone already has a much higher DPI than for example your notebook or desktop
Surround sound and loud speaker? It's impossible to integrate good speakers into a small battery-powered device. Give it a speaker that has a clear sound that is loud enough to hear your ringtone in a noisy environment and it's fine. If you want surround and loudness, get a proper amplifier with proper speakers.

If that Ace phone was going to be on Verizon, I would get preorder it when when it is available. I like the bigger screens a lot more. It is hard to go under 4" when you have been using a 4.3" screen for a while.

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