Nokia: Windows Phones with PureView technology coming

Nokia impressed a lot of people at last week’s Mobile World Congress when it launched its new 808 PureView handset, packing a whopping 41MP camera; indeed, that handset went on to scoop the week’s biggest accolade, winning the award for ‘Best New Mobile Handset, Device Or Tablet’.

The big disappointment for some was that the 808 runs the Nokia Belle operating system (formerly Symbian Belle), rather than the Windows Phone OS found in the company’s Lumia device family. It seems that the decision was made to release the device with Belle, as that was the platform on which the handset’s impressive PureView technology was developed over the course of five long years.

But the company has confirmed that PureView will soon make its way to its Windows Phones. Speaking with Finnish journal Aamulehti (via WPCentral), Nokia senior vice president Jo Harlow responded to enquiries about whether or not Lumia handsets will feature PureView technology by saying: “I can’t say precisely when, but it will not take very long.”

Let’s hope that Nokia figures out a way to make its PureView Windows Phones a bit less chunky than the 808 PureView, which is almost 18mm thick at the camera.

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This is definitely good news. I know of at least one person that would run to the store for this if it ran Windows Phone... And as much as I would love for them to trim it down some, I'm willing to bet at this point it's not all that possible...

Are there any camera specs limitation with wp7? also, the bigger problem would be to keep the code Secure, since wp7 is a standard os. Apps can be leakes and cracked. we havent seen Nokia modding the os itself, which would be more Secure.

BTW. You don't need 100gb. The pureview tech takes a 40mp pic and scales it down, don't it? So youll never SAVE a 40 MP pic. You'd save a 5-7mp picture or whatever it was. 5-7mp is only 7-13mb. With 16-32gb on the Phone, it would be enough. Remember that its a Phone, not a Canon 5d II for professionals.

Graimer said,
Are there any camera specs limitation with wp7? also, the bigger problem would be to keep the code Secure, since wp7 is a standard os. Apps can be leakes and cracked. we havent seen Nokia modding the os itself, which would be more Secure.

Wow. No offense, but I don't think you know what your talking about there. Windows Phone is very secure. Everything runs in a sandbox, etc... I thought that was pretty well understood at this point...

M_Lyons10 said,

Wow. No offense, but I don't think you know what your talking about there. Windows Phone is very secure. Everything runs in a sandbox, etc... I thought that was pretty well understood at this point...


I DO understand, but you don't(mainly because I didn't spell it for you). Nokia didn't implement their features at OS Level when they released their phone, like most thought they would. What they did was release their AddOns as Apps. And like you may have noticed if YOU followed WP7, you'd know that those apps was RELEASED(leaked/cracked and uploaded) to the public, because.. wait for it.. they WERE APPS. As long as code is distributed through apps, the code is less secure then it would have been if it was a OS module. I love and use WP7, but this is a fact for all OSs. This makes it possible to crack the code as soon as a New marketplace bug is discovered.

What is unique with your technology if someone gets the code, and creates home-brew apps that every Chevron unlocked device can use?

By releasing pureview with Belle, it will be Integrated in the OS code, which is harder to crack and copy.

Besides, wp hardware specs will evolve with the software development, not just for pretty numbers and to hide bad optimisations/coding

paulheu said,
Besides, wp hardware specs will evolve with the software development, not just for pretty numbers and to hide bad optimisations/coding

Heh, I think it's more likely to evolve with Qualcomm's roadmap. They are currently testing the Krait's which are considered the fastest application processor (not yet) on the market.
These are the ones Android will be riding on flagship products, middle of this year.

WP is noticeably slow in load-times and weak in games currently.
The load times are probably due to the fast-access, slow-burst speed chips combined with low-bandwidth RAM.
The weak games are just due to slow Qualcomm chips.
When Adreno 3xx chips come out we might see some really awesome xbox games on WP8

Note: I have a Lumia 800.

Yeah, the reason why it probably runs Belle is because WP won't update their damn specs. You get stuck with weak hardware like Single core, 512MB, no SD card slot. That's the only problems I see with WP.

KomaWeiss said,
Yeah, the reason why it probably runs Belle is because WP won't update their damn specs. You get stuck with weak hardware like Single core, 512MB, no SD card slot. That's the only problems I see with WP.

What does this have to do with the camera?

Rafyelzz said,

What does this have to do with the camera?

I could see the lack of an SD slot being a major issue. 30-40 MP pictures are huge files. Even with the standard 16GB of internal storage you won't have room for a lot of pictures. The OS, apps, music and whatever else you keep on your phone won't leave a lot of room for what I'm assuming will be 30-40MB pictures.

Rafyelzz said,

What does this have to do with the camera?

The big disappointment for some was that the 808 runs the Nokia Belle operating system (formerly Symbian Belle), rather than the Windows Phone OS found in the company's Lumia device family.

Because, Nokia would get into a lot of trouble, if they ignored the specs of WP7.

KomaWeiss said,
Yeah, the reason why it probably runs Belle is because WP won't update their damn specs. You get stuck with weak hardware like Single core, 512MB, no SD card slot. That's the only problems I see with WP.

If that's the only problems you see with WP, you should get one later this year because of that will be addressed.

Enron said,

If that's the only problems you see with WP, you should get one later this year because of that will be addressed.

He was just stating why Nokia can't include the camera in WP currently.
WP doesn't allow more than 16GB internally or a microSD expansion (Nokia told me this). It also doesn't allow the chipsets required for 1GP/s transfers. That is, it doesn't allow the Broadcom multimedia chip that Nokia has been using for the past few years.

Sacha said,

He was just stating why Nokia can't include the camera in WP currently.
WP doesn't allow more than 16GB internally or a microSD expansion (Nokia told me this). It also doesn't allow the chipsets required for 1GP/s transfers. That is, it doesn't allow the Broadcom multimedia chip that Nokia has been using for the past few years.

Then it sounds like Microsoft will be adding much more hardware support. Awesome.