Nokia wins patent injunction against HTC on battery saving technology

 

There's not much of a connection these days between Nokia and HTC

Nokia and HTC are often competing with each other and occasionally they end up in court. Nokia brought a suite of 40 patents against HTC in Germany, claiming that the Taiwanese company is infringing on Nokia's intellectual property. At the beginning of the month HTC had a victory with the court dismissing some of Nokia's claims but now it seems Nokia has the upper hand.

As Florian Muller writes, Nokia was awarded a patent injunction against HTC today in the Mannheim Regional Court, as the judge found HTC to be infringing on Nokia's patent related to power saving technologies and methods on a mobile device. The patent refers to a power saving technique used by a mobile phone while it is connected to a network; HTC is infringing by using Qualcomm's chips which employ Nokia's technique.

What's more important is that this is a final, not preliminary injunction, and Nokia now has the right to claim damages as well as a recall of infringing devices. HTC was already paying Apple and Microsoft for patents used in the Android operating system and it seems pretty clear that they will soon start paying Nokia for the hardware in their phones.

Source: Foss Patents

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Well, according HTC's statement on the injuction the patent only affects models that are no longer even being sold in Germany. If that's true then this injunction is quite ridiculous.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/0...many-over-battery-saving-w/

On the other hand I recall Samsung being accused of double dipping when they did something similar as what Nokia did here: wouldn't HTC be licensing the patents already when they license the chips from Qualcomm?

If the NOKIA tech is in the Qualcomm chips, shouldn't Qualcomm license this from NOKIA to begin with?

Or is this chip specially made for HTC?

Majesticmerc said,
I'm not denying the legitimacy of the story, but are we still trusting a word that comes out of Florian Muller's lying shill mouth?

How he is a liar?

Crimson Rain said,

How he is a liar?
He keeps getting accused of this only for him to be later proved to be correct. He seems pretty reliable in my experience.

mog0 said,
He keeps getting accused of this only for him to be later proved to be correct. He seems pretty reliable in my experience.

Except, you know, when he was wrong about the whole Oracle vs Google trial, and was then found to be consulting for Oracle on their patent team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...%C3%BCller#Oracle_v._Google

I'm not saying he's lying per-se (except when he failed to announce his relationship with Oracle), but he's definitely a suspect source to me after the Oracle vs Google debacle.

Majesticmerc said,

Except, you know, when he was wrong about the whole Oracle vs Google trial, and was then found to be consulting for Oracle on their patent team.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...%C3%BCller#Oracle_v._Google

I'm not saying he's lying per-se (except when he failed to announce his relationship with Oracle), but he's definitely a suspect source to me after the Oracle vs Google debacle.


Now you are saying "not lying per-se" but before you called him liar.

And you have yet to show any proof of him lying.

I have recently started reading his posts in there. All I see is absolute facts (news) and then some analysis by himself. His analysis is clear enough not to be confused with the actual fact/news.

And finally, he recently predicted a few things about webm, nokia vs htc etc. Both turned out to be true.

So please, keep your suspicion to yourself until you have solid proof or you are the liar.

Majesticmerc said,
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120419070127103

Muller maintained that he was an unbiased party in the whole Oracle vs Google case, but omitted the minor detail that he was actually on the Oracle Payroll. That's a pretty big lie-by-omission for a fairly key commentator in one of the biggest ever tech cases.

I don't doubt that his news pieces are truthful to the best of his knowledge, but I'll never trust his analysis.


You never trust someone's analysis. You read it and agree/disagree with it using your own logic.

If its Qualcomm's chips that are employing Nokia's technique why aren't they going after them instead of HTC who just buy the chips?

watkinsx2 said,
If its Qualcomm's chips that are employing Nokia's technique why aren't they going after them instead of HTC who just buy the chips?
Of course this will meant that they can now go after Samsung, LG and anyone else that uses Qualcomm chips.

mog0 said,
Of course this will meant that they can now go after Samsung, LG and anyone else that uses Qualcomm chips.

Unless those companies have indemnity clause on their agreement.

TheLegendOfMart said,
Yeah lets stifle innovation and block functions that are useful to end users lolololololololololololololololololololololololol..........

You obviously have no clue what Nokia has brought to mobile markets with their innovation what almost all mobile companies still use this day. I seriously doubt Nokia would have even gone after HTC if they just paid the royalties in the first place not just rename their tech and call it their own. Nokia isn't apple who patents rounded corners and sues everyone, Nokia actually does create IP that do matter. You didn't see Nokia going after HTC for the 8X line of design tho they do look a lot like the Lumia line.

What's even more laughable is that HTC has already lost to Nokia in a court case once before for not paying up for IP's that they ripped off and now they thought they can do it again? Meh, I suggest HTC to look up Nokias patent portfolio next time before they bankrupt themselves like this.

Also to your comment down below, HTC isn't moving even half the volume the Lumia line is.

Edited by alwaysonacoffebreak, Mar 19 2013, 9:54am :

TheLegendOfMart said,
Yeah lets stifle innovation and block functions that are useful to end users lolololololololololololololololololololololololol..........

Sure, and I'll let you copy my homework too.