Nokia's Lumia photography leader bypasses Microsoft to work at Apple

Microsoft may have bought Nokia's smartphone business, but apparently it didn't lock many of its key personnel to long term contracts. Today, Nokia's Lumia photography leader Ari Partinen has announced he will start working at Apple in June.

Partinen posted word on his new employer via his Twitter feed by writing that he will be starting "a new chapter in Cupertino, California" and later confirmed his hiring by Apple in a subsequent tweet.

Partinen started working at Nokia in 2007 and was one of the senior engineers behind the creation of its PureView camera technology. It has since become a big part of the Lumia smartphone lineup, offering those Windows Phone devices superior photo hardware and software, including the 41 megapixel camera that was put into the Lumia 1020.

His decision to work at Apple has to be considered a blow to Microsoft. The folks at Redmond would certainly like for as many of the people who worked on the Lumia phones to stick with the new owners for as long as possible.

Source: Ari Partinen on Twitter via TechCrunch

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That guy had nothing to do with the making of PureView, and he has no real technical skill whatsoever. Mostly marketing nonsense and decisions about stupid digital camera filters. Just the right thing for Apple.

Meh. If obviously wasn't needed if Nokia let him go. Also, Apple has a cross-patent licensing deal with Microsoft. It's not like it wasn't bound to happen. But I highly doubt we'll ever see as nice of cameras on iPhones anytime soon.

j2006 said,
Meh. If obviously wasn't needed if Nokia let him go. Also, Apple has a cross-patent licensing deal with Microsoft. It's not like it wasn't bound to happen. But I highly doubt we'll ever see as nice of cameras on iPhones anytime soon.

depends if it includes EVERYTHING which MS would be stupid to allow. If ya see iphone coming out with amazing new camera tech that can only be copied then we'll know

j2006 said,
Meh. If obviously wasn't needed if Nokia let him go.
This is common practice after large takeovers. Top talent frequently leaves after getting their payouts because of pent-up resentment (or desires for something different) combined with a sudden influx of cash (e.g., stock value or instant vesting).

This guy is one on the team and not the head the head of imaging technologies is Juha Alakarhu, senior benchmarking specialist Tero Vuori, and head of imaging Eero Salmelin all work now at Microsoft the main people behind the camera tech. Neowin fails to give the whole story.

Enron said,
He has a typo on his resume. Automatic no-hire.

OMFG... This turned out to be why the career placement people at my college were worthless. It took me 2 years to find this out, but they re-typed my resume and it was getting rejected for typos.

NastySasquatch said,

OMFG... This turned out to be why the career placement people at my college were worthless. It took me 2 years to find this out, but they re-typed my resume and it was getting rejected for typos.

If you're in the US, you should sue them.

scumdogmillionaire said,
Ouch. There goes that big advantage.

He wasnt the only person working on the photography team. May be a little impact to MS, but not to much.

It's not like Pureview was the jesus of camera technology or anything. They're pretty good in low-light, but the color contrast wasn't very impressive.

This just show that the Microsoft's (Nokia) smartphone camera is far superior than Apple, but at the same time, Microsoft must step up its game to continue to lead in this part of the market.

RommelS said,
This just show that the Microsoft's (Nokia) smartphone camera is far superior than Apple, but at the same time, Microsoft must step up its game to continue to lead in this part of the market.

Very doubtful. Pureview is awesome, but I'd like to see someone do so much with a 8mp camera as Apple was able to.

keep in mind apple just created the software on top of somebody else's sensors. Nokia actually created their own sensors to do what they want.

Astra.Xtreme said,
It's not like Pureview was the jesus of camera technology or anything. They're pretty good in low-light, but the color contrast wasn't very impressive.

That was the Nokia firmware not the PureView camera itself.

Not really. Apple would have to license the patents that Nokia/Microsoft have. Given that Apple and Microsoft have a cross-licensing deal, it's no big deal. Plus, it's obvious he wasn't needed if Nokia let him go.

stevan said,

Very doubtful. Pureview is awesome, but I'd like to see someone do so much with a 8mp camera as Apple was able to.

Nokia has an 8.7 megapixel PureView with their 92x line with OIS. In fact, the 925 comes with six lenses, and it sure can handle itself better than the iPhone.

RommelS said,

Nokia has an 8.7 megapixel PureView with their 92x line with OIS. In fact, the 925 comes with six lenses, and it sure can handle itself better than the iPhone.

After reading a few reviews, iPhones 8mp wins in the majority of them against the 925s 8.7mp. Neither as as good as the 41mp one.

stevan said,

After reading a few reviews, iPhones 8mp wins in the majority of them against the 925s 8.7mp. Neither as as good as the 41mp one.

Apple software does alot of post processing and colour correction enhancement, there camera isnt as good but the software makes up for that fact

stevan said,

After reading a few reviews, iPhones 8mp wins in the majority of them against the 925s 8.7mp. Neither as as good as the 41mp one.

...and I have read a few as well, and those reviews stated that the L925 takes better pictures that then iPhone ..and I have a Nokia Lumia 925, and I have compared pictures with people that are using the iPhone.

That being said, it all boils down on how someone is doing the review, but yes, no one can touch the Lumia 1020.

RommelS said,

...and I have read a few as well, and those reviews stated that the L925 takes better pictures that then iPhone ..and I have a Nokia Lumia 925, and I have compared pictures with people that are using the iPhone.

That being said, it all boils down on how someone is doing the review, but yes, no one can touch the Lumia 1020.

Most of the reviews I've seen give the slight edge to the 5S, but they're so close that it's pretty much pointless to say one is definitively better than the other quality-wise. The biggest downfall of the Nokia phones is that they're slow to launch the camera. On the iPhone you can pull it out of your pocket and be snapping pictures within 2 seconds. Unless a Windows update has improved this, the camera app is extremely slow. That alone would really annoy me with those phones.

http://www.wpcentral.com/camer...5s-lumia-925-and-lumia-1020

stevan said,

Very doubtful. Pureview is awesome, but I'd like to see someone do so much with a 8mp camera as Apple was able to.

Um, the 925/928 still beat the latest iPhone, and they are 8mp devices.

Astra.Xtreme said,

Most of the reviews I've seen give the slight edge to the 5S, but they're so close that it's pretty much pointless to say one is definitively better than the other quality-wise. The biggest downfall of the Nokia phones is that they're slow to launch the camera. On the iPhone you can pull it out of your pocket and be snapping pictures within 2 seconds. Unless a Windows update has improved this, the camera app is extremely slow. That alone would really annoy me with those phones.

http://www.wpcentral.com/camer...5s-lumia-925-and-lumia-1020

Using the Nokia Camera App on a 928, the Camera is ready from a locked screen in under a second. (The 925 should be the same, but I don't have one with me today.)

*The Nokia Camera App 'was' slower when it was first launched. Also the 1020 is slower at taking full 38mp pictures as anyone that can do math would expect.

However the 928/925 can continuously shoot full resolution images at 2-3 per second while holding down the 'shutter' and can shoot images at about 10 per second using smart sequence. (And that is with the 928 recharging and using the Xenon flash)

Windows Phone was the first to have a 'fast' option to get to the camera and be available, as they advertised this 'against' the iPhone. Apple's latest iPhone does better, but they haven't caught up yet.

Astra.Xtreme said,

Most of the reviews I've seen give the slight edge to the 5S, but they're so close that it's pretty much pointless to say one is definitively better than the other quality-wise. The biggest downfall of the Nokia phones is that they're slow to launch the camera. On the iPhone you can pull it out of your pocket and be snapping pictures within 2 seconds. Unless a Windows update has improved this, the camera app is extremely slow. That alone would really annoy me with those phones.

http://www.wpcentral.com/camer...5s-lumia-925-and-lumia-1020

My Lumia 1520 opens the camera faster than I can flip the phone sideways. I can't recall but isn't it 20-25 MP?

Mobius Enigma said,

Using the Nokia Camera App on a 928, the Camera is ready from a locked screen in under a second. (The 925 should be the same, but I don't have one with me today.)

*The Nokia Camera App 'was' slower when it was first launched. Also the 1020 is slower at taking full 38mp pictures as anyone that can do math would expect.

However the 928/925 can continuously shoot full resolution images at 2-3 per second while holding down the 'shutter' and can shoot images at about 10 per second using smart sequence. (And that is with the 928 recharging and using the Xenon flash)

Windows Phone was the first to have a 'fast' option to get to the camera and be available, as they advertised this 'against' the iPhone. Apple's latest iPhone does better, but they haven't caught up yet.


Camera app is slow as a brick on the 920.

The 1020 is slow as a brick because WP8 not supporting a support-CPU for the camera, as Nokia requested....
No news whether or not WP8.1 supports multiple chipsets. So not good news for the 1020 replacer.

Max Norris said,

Oh yes, I'm sure that'll fly, along with the barrage of patent lawsuits that follow.

Yup. Except it will be Apple suing (as usual).

agtsmith said,

Yup. Except it will be Apple suing (as usual).

Can't sue Microsoft due to their agreement, so MS would be fine.. although not sure if MS could sue apple if they could prove they stole tech somehow by using him

neufuse said,
Can't sue Microsoft due to their agreement, so MS would be fine.. although not sure if MS could sue apple if they could prove they stole tech somehow by using him
They have a patent sharing agreement, but I do not believe that an employee would be allowed to just "bring" (from memory) a bunch of IP. There's a difference between hardware interface and hardware implementation that is a key line he will have to walk.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
He can't take the tech sure but he sure can take his knowledge with him and just "rename" it.

Nokia/Microsoft just lost a big deal for them.

You do realize the 'tech' existed at Nokia before this person even worked there.

yea, MS and Apple are very cozy right now, they're only giving off the impression of rivalry while each pursuing their own angle on things. I welcome more sharing of technology - it means the best things make everybody's products better.

Any patents he developed while working for Nokia are now the property of Microsoft. He cannot reproduce them for Apple. Having said that, you employee someone like that to develop new technology, not supervise existing tech.