NVIDIA CEO really wants Outlook on Windows RT; prays to "Outlook God"

This guy sounds desperate for wanting Outlook on Windows RT

NVIDIA's Tegra 3 processor is running inside Microsoft's Surface RT tablet but so far, sales of the Surface and other Windows RT devices have been disappointing. Today, NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang told financial analysts today, "We expected to have sold more than we did."

The comments, which can be listened to on NVIDIA's investor page, were a confirmation that sales of Windows RT have been below expectations. However, Huang believes that Microsoft will work hard to make Windows RT successful, saying, "I feel they will get it right because it's too important not to get right. It won't be the largest part of Tegra, but it will be a large part, I think."

While Huang's comments on Windows RT's current lack of success were to be expected, he then surprised the analysts by his pleas for Microsoft to launch an Outlook client that would run on Windows RT. In fact, he flat out said he has been praying to the "Outlook God" to make this happen.

He stated that if Outlook for Windows RT were released, "It would make my life complete. My life would be complete. I don't know about you guys but I would need nothing else. I am one Outlook away from computing nirvana and I just hoping he is listening now. Outlook God, please."

He later added, "I know there are smart people up there who are going to unleash the dragons of Outlook on the millions of consumers who are just waiting with bated breath for a very, very thin PC with long battery life that's Outlook compatible."

"All hail the Outlook God."

At the moment, the only Microsoft mail client for Windows RT is the Mail Modern app. Earlier this year, rumors hit the Internet that Microsoft was indeed working on a project that would bring an Outlook client to Windows RT but there's apparently some debate on launching the project to the public. We suspect that the "Outlook God" in Redmond is getting a lot of messages from Huang to make Outlook on Windows RT a reality.

Source: NVIDIA | Images via NVIDIA and Microsoft
Via: PCWorld.com

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When you get older, you get more religious. I can feel it too.

Dear Outlook God, you that are in heaven. Please give me a mail client on Windows RT with multiple mail select, filtering and archive mail. Amen.

I pray that Outlook gets added and they scrap what they have so far with Xbox music, pick Zune back up and work on rebranding it and making a metro app. Xbox music is ******* horrible!!!! Not enough pressure is getting put on Microsoft for that horrible of an app...

It is on its way for sure, will probably be released with version 2 of the surface RT sometime later this year I would imagine.

Granted my work email is still on Exchange 2007, but isn't Outlook Web Access supposed to be moving closer to the functionality of Outlook? I would assume that by now OWA is a perfectly adequate replacement for most people.

Chugworth said,
Granted my work email is still on Exchange 2007, but isn't Outlook Web Access supposed to be moving closer to the functionality of Outlook? I would assume that by now OWA is a perfectly adequate replacement for most people.

I use Outlook desktop but out of curiosity sometimes I check OWA about the new UI and functionalities; till yesterday was still the old GUI.

tytytucke said
The RT apps amount/quality are a side note.
Well that's slowly becoming irrelevant now i.m.o. because there are a lot more great apps now, than there were before. Although, that depends on what you want/need. I've got 68 Modern apps on my laptop and I love it.

Part of the low sales is due to the operating system and people not adapting to windows 8 correspondingly. I believe the OS has more play in the sales rather than the apps.

Consumers see the UI and sheer of into oblivion, missing the opportunity to explore.

I have the preinstalled apps + 8 additional apps I downloaded. I enjoy the 1st party apps but I have failed to use the new apps other than a means of entertainment (besides the metro clock) I know this isn't the case for everyone. But I still feel very limited in the app store.

tytytucke said
Part of the low sales is due to the operating system and people not adapting to windows 8 correspondingly. I believe the OS has more play in the sales rather than the apps.

Consumers see the UI and sheer of into oblivion, missing the opportunity to explore.

I have the preinstalled apps + 8 additional apps I downloaded. I enjoy the 1st party apps but I have failed to use the new apps other than a means of entertainment (besides the metro clock) I know this isn't the case for everyone. But I still feel very limited in the app store.

The less apps = Less things you can do with it.

tytytucke said,
outlook? just improve the current mail app. Move away from the branding.
I'm curious, why move away from branding?

For something as simple as mail. It should just be Mail.

Branding should be used for competitive marketing when it is needed,
using it here is just over kill. Imagine calendar, photos, messaging, etc.. with a brand name in front of it. eh... ah no thanks. I get enough ads, brands, and products shoved in my face. I believe removing the brand names from theses apps is a step forward in the right direction and so does Microsoft (obviously)

The less I receive the more I am pleased (advertisement wise)

Edited by tytytucke, Mar 20 2013, 2:08am :

My belief is that Windows RT would have been released as just the Modern UI without the desktop, but needed some enticing selling point since the Windows Store was so new at the time...that's why they included the desktop and Office since Office RT wasn't completed...yet.

I believe Office RT has been in development and will be released Q2-Q3 of 2013. It'll be close to functionality as the desktop. They'll also release Office for Android and iOS, but it will be second to Office RT in terms of functionality.

Outlook is one of the killer Office apps, which is why it was so surprising for Microsoft to omit it. Microsoft should have had a Metro version of the entire Office suite ready for launch but unfortunately Sinofsky refused to cooperate with other departments, only revealing Surface RT to the Office team very late into development. That, combined with the rushed nature of Windows RT (evidenced by the inclusion of the desktop for Office and some Windows features like the Control Panel, Calculator, etc) and the excessive price tag, led to an offering that simply wasn't competitive.

The question now is whether Microsoft is committed to the Surface (and Windows RT) or whether it will abandon it like so many products (Kin, Zune, etc). Microsoft can't expect the first revision of a product to blow away the competition. Even the original iPod didn't take off until the third generation. The Surface is a decent product that needs to be refined, especially on the software side of things.

I could be wrong, but I can't see them ditching Windows RT. It's another platform for them like x86, x64. The battery life and lack of malware is a selling point for them. They'll push Windows RT with the desktop disabled in the next iteration of RT...with the option to enable the desktop. But it'll come bundled with Office RT and improved Music, Video, and Mail applications.

LookitsPuck said,
I could be wrong, but I can't see them ditching Windows RT. It's another platform for them like x86, x64.

Or it could end up like Windows i64 (Itanium), which has been discontinued. If Microsoft isn't able to make the Surface popular, and if there isn't a manufacturer to carry on the torch, then there's no incentive to keep developing it. And with Intel and AMD both making inroads into ARM's territory it may be that Windows for ARM never gets off the ground.

theyarecomingforyou said,

Or it could end up like Windows i64 (Itanium), which has been discontinued. If Microsoft isn't able to make the Surface popular, and if there isn't a manufacturer to carry on the torch, then there's no incentive to keep developing it. And with Intel and AMD both making inroads into ARM's territory it may be that Windows for ARM never gets off the ground.

The thing is they don't have to "keep developing it". It's the same code as Windows on x86 so at this point it's just a compile flag to switch between target platforms, so it'll be around for a while. And because all new apps will work on both platforms, whatever happens between ARM and x86 won't affect Microsoft because it's ready for either platform to win/lose.

theyarecomingforyou said,

Or it could end up like Windows i64 (Itanium), which has been discontinued. If Microsoft isn't able to make the Surface popular, and if there isn't a manufacturer to carry on the torch, then there's no incentive to keep developing it. And with Intel and AMD both making inroads into ARM's territory it may be that Windows for ARM never gets off the ground.


Windows i64 has never been marketed.. It was just a half-assed attempt because according to Intel Itanium would be the future. But it wasn't.

Shadowzz said,

Windows i64 has never been marketed.. It was just a half-assed attempt because according to Intel Itanium would be the future. But it wasn't.

And it's different to Windows RT how exactly?

I've got my eye on getting myself a Dell Latitude 10. It has an x86 CPU (Atom) and 10 or 20 hour battery life depending on the battery option. Presumably it's quite slow but it will get the job done for x86 productivity apps like Outlook. No significant heat emissions or fans. So it's possible to have Outlook on a Windows RT style tablet today, just running Windows 8 instead.

Given a device like that already exists I'm not exactly sure that Windows RT has much of a future, it possibly has more to do with Microsoft hedging its bets by having something in place, or because they anticipate other niche markets for ARM-based Windows. It also gives WinRT developers a reason to make their apps CPU-independent, and they've ported to ARM for the purposes of Windows Phone anyway.

eddman said,
Not just outlook; MS should release a full metro version of office ASAP.

Aren't they talking about a desktop version? If Office gets moved to Metro features will be lost. I get that feeling when comparing Metro and desktop apps, you always get a watered down experience in Metro.

thealexweb said,

Aren't they talking about a desktop version? If Office gets moved to Metro features will be lost. I get that feeling when comparing Metro and desktop apps, you always get a watered down experience in Metro.

Office is coming to Metro. Probably by next year. Hopefully, part of the Windows Blue Initiative.

eddman said,
Not just outlook; MS should release a full metro version of office ASAP.

I hope they don't. I was recently forced across to Outlook.com, and don't like it. It's very plain. It reminds me of Windows 3.1. I much preferred Hotmail's (Windows 7-like) look.

If the Metro version of Office is only going to have three colours in it's theme as well, it would also be dull to use. I guess that's the trouble with Microsoft probably hiring artists without much UI background. After being forced to Outlook.com, I'm definitely not upgrading to Windows 8.

Office 2010 was the best version - it works, no need to fix it. They should be able to recompile it to run on Windows RT.

thealexweb said,
Aren't they talking about a desktop version? If Office gets moved to Metro features will be lost. I get that feeling when comparing Metro and desktop apps, you always get a watered down experience in Metro.

The Metro version should be in addition to the desktop version or else the Metro version needs to have the exact same functionality (which may be difficult). But Microsoft really needs a native Windows RT version - using the desktop is a dirty shortcut and makes for a very bad user experience.

thealexweb said,

Aren't they talking about a desktop version? If Office gets moved to Metro features will be lost. I get that feeling when comparing Metro and desktop apps, you always get a watered down experience in Metro.

You're right. I got confused.
Alright then, full metro office w/ outlook AND also desktop outlook.

I am sure a full Modern Office is in the works, nothing was ready when RT was released. But I can tell you it is coming sometime, just don't know when.

68k said,

Office 2010 was the best version - it works, no need to fix it. They should be able to recompile it to run on Windows RT.

Have you tried Office 2013? It's actually Office 2010 but even better. It's just as fast, if not faster. It's even more user-friendly, first thing you see when you open Word is tons of templates. The user interface is much cleaner and streamlined for any type of PC, touch or mouse. Available as a subscription-based product too.

Office 2013 isn't some Modern-UI knockoff of Office 2010. It actually builds upon it's predecessor pretty nicely. But I do understand where you are coming from... An actual Windows 8 style app of the Office applications would suck just because Modern-UI design is really dull somehow...

I cannot completely blame the Modern-UI though. I feel like Microsoft spends way too much time on core development and reconstructing it...than to actually add functionality to their existing apps.

In the last few years, Windows 7, Office 2010, and Windows Phone 7.5 Mango, were huge successes because they built on something by adding functionality and fixed major issues. Windows 8 starts something new and therefore fails, Windows Phone 8 fails because even though I got a Lumia 920...I would rather have an Android phone now because I feel like I never actually got a new phone since my Focus S. They haven't changed anything but apparently the whole core has changed.

I believe Microsoft is holding out until Windows Blue because that will allow the same apps to run on both Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8. But us consumers are now paying the price again. First we needed to get a new phone for Windows Phone 8's new core to work. Now we are waiting again for good apps because of Windows Blue.

I bet this is what they're doing... why improve the functionality of the current apps if they will be phased out for the new apps? They would be writing code for two different apps for the same app for the same functionality, which is the whole point of Windows Blue. But in waiting for Windows Blue and the SDK for it, they are holding out on adding functionality to Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 apps.

I just don't want to wait anymore... The Windows 8 apps always crash, Mail crashes, Xbox Music crashes. Xbox Music lagged like hell on my Surface RT... These are first-party apps... Skype's integration sucks and it is hit or miss if my Lumia 920 will ring when somebody is skyping me. Sometimes it goes straight to my Skype voicemail...which is pathetically unreliable. And they talk about how integrated Skype is...

Plus if Skype is replacing Windows Live Messenger, can we please get an update for Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8's Messaging app so we can talk to people on Skype though that instead of needing the Skype app? They shutdown Messenger but kept it going behind the scenes to confuse WP7.5, WP8, and W8 users who have the Messaging app.

It's just upsetting how they do these things. They need to get it together. Look at Samsung and HTC and how fast they make a skin with tons of widgets and neat features for each phone they make and they are the manufacture, look at Microsoft and every phone and tablet is the same. I actually feel like I should take a step back when I see something running WP8 or W8 because I have a Surface Pro and a Lumia 920 that I feel like it's all the same and hasn't changed since the devices have been released and glance over at the more exciting Android offerings.

I love Microsoft and this sorta became a rant, but in a time where they are failing compared to their competition, it is hard to support them when they take so damn long to execute their plans. They should've had Windows Blue's strategy from the getgo. They should've had Windows Phone 7 running on the Windows shared core and by the time of Mango had all this established... I feel like we've been beta testing their new ideas for a couple of years now and I will never know when the real thing will come to surface...when we will have stable slew of updates coming to our phones and tablets and developers see the development inside of Microsoft picking up that they feel safe to develop for Windows...

Theres no point in it. All MS need to do is (vastly) improve the current Mail app. Metro apps are new, so it will take a long time before they start coming close in features to desktop alternatives that have had years to mature. But theres no technical reason why the Mail app cant do everything Outlook does on desktop.

W32.Backdoor.KillAV.E said,
Theres no point in it. All MS need to do is (vastly) improve the current Mail app. Metro apps are new so it will take a long time before they start coming close in features to desktop alternatives that have had years to mature, but theres no technical reason why the Mail app cant do everything Outlook does on desktop.

We both now for arbitrary reasons that the Mail app will never be as good Outlook, fact.

W32.Backdoor.KillAV.E said,
Theres no point in it. All MS need to do is (vastly) improve the current Mail app. Metro apps are new, so it will take a long time before they start coming close in features to desktop alternatives that have had years to mature. But theres no technical reason why the Mail app cant do everything Outlook does on desktop.
Do you have any idea what the featureset of Outlook is?