Pioneer to release first 12x Blu-ray Disc burner

Pioneer has nabbed victory in being the first company to manufacture a 12x Blu-ray writer for single and dual-layer media. The current generation of Blu-ray burners holds a maximum write speed of 8x, making the new release quite a performance boost.

In addition to cutting burn times, Pioneer claims that the new BDR-205 burner has been designed with a low vibration mechanism that will improve writing accuracy over the current generation of burners.

The burner will also be able to read and write DVD media at 16x and CD media at 40x.

Pioneer has long been at the forefront of optical media research and design, introducing its Laserdisc products in 1980, the first DVD writer and home DVD recorder in the late 1990s, and the first DVD/CD burner and Blu-ray Disc burner earlier this century.

Pioneer's latest creation comes on the heels of an NPD investigation into the market for Blu-ray players. In this investigation, NPD compared the types of consumers owning and buying Blu-ray Disc players in February 2008 with consumers in August 2009. Their findings showed a maturing market, which will finally penetrate the mainstream in 2010, after years on the sidelines.

The BDR-205 will go on sale this month. It's retail cousin, the BDR-2205, is scheduled to ship in the first quarter of 2010 and is expected to have a recommended price of $US249.

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This latest speed increase could be the thing that finally kick-starts mass-market sales next year - it's been a long time coming. Then prices will come down of course just as we all saw with the CD writer - and just about any other technology for that matter.
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$249 doesn't sound that bad actually, I was expecting it to be a -lot- higher. Maybe it's just me being used to new technology being really expensive, but well, I was expecting a price tag around $400, $500 or maybe even higher again.

If you really need bleeding edge, then $249 seems like a fair price to pay.

The price of the drive doesn't bother me one bit....but until media prices come down I won't be getting one.

Cheapest I can find is $8 up to $13 re-writables are obviously more $15-20 Each

DVD's are like $30-45 for a 100x Pack ie 30-45 cents each

Ok Blu Ray hold about 4.5-5 times the data of DVD but still that's only about $1.50's worth of DVD discs
I burn loads of data backups and its just worth it YET

I remember wanting a cd burner soo bad. Make audio cd mixes at home? So cool. Then when DVD burners came out i thought my data storage and backup problems were finally solved. Now, with blueray I couldn't care less tbh. I have a hard time seeing how this is useful to anyone except for people who want to prototype bluray video discs. To everyone else an external >500gb harddrive seems like such a better option than this. Idk. Maybe if the media was cheeper and the drives were <100 i will jump in just to have one.

I've used em all. Pioneers are good, but definately not the best. Plextor are the best one's I've used so far. Currently they do not have any BD Burners but once they do, if they do, I'll be the first to pick one up. I've had faulty batches of DVD's/CD's before but both LG (Probably the worst of the "good" brands) and Pioneer could not make a burn out of them. Plextor has made some bad batches of DVD's usable, for the most part, when the other 2 wouldn't even come close to a good burn. As we speak, I'm using a Samsung drive which also has not let me down as of yet, but then I've not yet had a bad batch of dvd's either. I got the samsung drive because I returned a comstar drive for the pioneer drive I still have in my old computer, but it was IDE and I made the switch to SATA. The drive which I had returned, the Comstar (also another LG company) I absolutely hated about as much as the old LG brand I tried previously. Needless to say I'll never buy another LG brand device as long as I live. I definately would try another Pioneer drive, but my first choice as of today stands at Plextor drives, but since there are no BD burners yet, if at all, I'm stuck with the next best thing.

I agree - I think Plextor makes probably the best burners in the market which is why I find they are always the priciest. Given that, Pioneer makes some very good burners too - great performance and reliability. I would go with either those 2 normally - though Panasonic/Mats (sp?) is pretty common now in all desktops especially laptops.

uRdoomd said,
I've used em all. Pioneers are good, but definately not the best. Plextor are the best one's I've used so far. Currently they do not have any BD Burners but once they do, if they do, I'll be the first to pick one up. I've had faulty batches of DVD's/CD's before but both LG (Probably the worst of the "good" brands) and Pioneer could not make a burn out of them. Plextor has made some bad batches of DVD's usable, for the most part, when the other 2 wouldn't even come close to a good burn. As we speak, I'm using a Samsung drive which also has not let me down as of yet, but then I've not yet had a bad batch of dvd's either. I got the samsung drive because I returned a comstar drive for the pioneer drive I still have in my old computer, but it was IDE and I made the switch to SATA. The drive which I had returned, the Comstar (also another LG company) I absolutely hated about as much as the old LG brand I tried previously. Needless to say I'll never buy another LG brand device as long as I live. I definately would try another Pioneer drive, but my first choice as of today stands at Plextor drives, but since there are no BD burners yet, if at all, I'm stuck with the next best thing.

Well I have built many systems with LG DVD writers and have had none fail. My system currently has a 5 year old LG and its going strong. Liteon is the brand I see fail often.
I have a Pioneer 4x DVD writer in my system at work. It works great still but sure is picky about what media it works with.
Plextor defiantly makes quality products! I just pulled a Plextor CD writer out of my Media Center PC to replace with my LG DVD writer. I was quite surprised at how heavy it weighs. 9 years later and it still works great!!

This is the first PC I built, its almost 2 years this november and let me tell you LITEON SUCKS. The dvd drive was $24.99 oem, I didnt care because i had the cables. Anyway, it ran perfect, and still is, and I dont use it often. But with windows 7 hitting RTM, I decided to take the dust off of my dvds and burn one.

Poped it in 2 weeks ago, and there goes the dvd drive, nice and smooth and all of a sudden a high pitch sound came from the drive, ever since then, any cd/dvd i pop in, whenever it spins, low or high speed(i prefer this, sound goes away faster) the sound is a high pitched squealing. Until the cd's done loading. If its spinning constantly the sound is contant.

I will go LG, or anyother brand for my 2nd build.

uRdoomd said,
I've used em all. Pioneers are good, but definately not the best. Plextor are the best one's I've used so far. Currently they do not have any BD Burners but once they do, if they do, I'll be the first to pick one up. I've had faulty batches of DVD's/CD's before but both LG (Probably the worst of the "good" brands) and Pioneer could not make a burn out of them. Plextor has made some bad batches of DVD's usable, for the most part, when the other 2 wouldn't even come close to a good burn. As we speak, I'm using a Samsung drive which also has not let me down as of yet, but then I've not yet had a bad batch of dvd's either. I got the samsung drive because I returned a comstar drive for the pioneer drive I still have in my old computer, but it was IDE and I made the switch to SATA. The drive which I had returned, the Comstar (also another LG company) I absolutely hated about as much as the old LG brand I tried previously. Needless to say I'll never buy another LG brand device as long as I live. I definately would try another Pioneer drive, but my first choice as of today stands at Plextor drives, but since there are no BD burners yet, if at all, I'm stuck with the next best thing.

Plextor are so good, their Blu-ray drive don't even exist!!111

uRdoomd said,
I've used em all. Pioneers are good, but definately not the best. Plextor are the best one's I've used so far. Currently they do not have any BD Burners but once they do, if they do, I'll be the first to pick one up. I've had faulty batches of DVD's/CD's before but both LG (Probably the worst of the "good" brands) and Pioneer could not make a burn out of them. Plextor has made some bad batches of DVD's usable, for the most part, when the other 2 wouldn't even come close to a good burn. As we speak, I'm using a Samsung drive which also has not let me down as of yet, but then I've not yet had a bad batch of dvd's either. I got the samsung drive because I returned a comstar drive for the pioneer drive I still have in my old computer, but it was IDE and I made the switch to SATA. The drive which I had returned, the Comstar (also another LG company) I absolutely hated about as much as the old LG brand I tried previously. Needless to say I'll never buy another LG brand device as long as I live. I definately would try another Pioneer drive, but my first choice as of today stands at Plextor drives, but since there are no BD burners yet, if at all, I'm stuck with the next best thing.

I agree about plextor. I have pretty much never bought any other drive but plextor. But in the end what it boils down to is that you are paying for reliability over those other brands. The only thing I dont like is the price. Now about this blu-ray thing, the costs of the media are often at times more than the actual real pressed blu-ray disk so I cant see buying one of these. The blu-ray pressed disks cost too much too. I will be sticking to regular dvds till those go down in price. I am in no rush to get a blu-ray drive of any kind.