Pirating Windows? No free Security Essentials for you!

Microsoft has confirmed via its Genuine Windows Blog that only those Windows users running genuine, validated copies will be able to download and install the new Microsoft Security Essentials software.

The Director of Microsoft's Genuine Windows team, Alex Kochis, stated in his post that, "During installation, you'll be asked to validate Windows running on your PC to make sure that it's genuine."

Windows validation is by no means a new technology, and has been implemented in many of Microsoft's software packages with a few notable exceptions: Internet Explorer 8, for example, and Windows Update which allows users running pirated copies of Windows to download essential security patches without validation.

However, it's Microsoft's reluctance to allow all users to install its security software that has people talking. Many argue that Microsoft should aim to protect all users regardless of how they obtained their copy of Windows, since infected machines pose a potential risk to all Windows systems.

Primary Security Analyst at IT research analyst and consulting firm Gartner, John Pescatore, shares a different view. "Those people [pirates] have many other choices [for system security], including free." He also adds that having alternatives make a big difference, and Microsoft's decision not to allow pirates access to Security Essentials cannot be compared with allowing access to Internet Explorer 8 or Windows Update. He argues that particularly in the case of Windows security patches no alternatives are available through any other software provider but Microsoft.

Microsoft's Security Essentials package was released last Tuesday, ahead of schedule, with a final build number of 1.0.1611.0. It is absolutely free for all genuine users of Windows XP, Vista and 7 in both 32bit and 64bit flavours.

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Genuine users (such as myself) suffer the troubles of being convicted as pirates. There's always the trouble with activation or your serial getting borked. WGA ftl

at first they was microsoft letting every one have a copy ... so every computer system in the world would be they costumer in further needs

and know they are complaining about pirating their software :S
let me you all remind you most of the money and profit they doing is from closing deals with country's so every
computer system in a country has a legal copy that means ...that in a country has let say 2 million computers using xp at the price of 50 euros .. ( at the past time) it makes 100 millions and this 100 millions are pay from the people living in that country through taxes ...:S so it is like i have already pay for my copy

so what i prefer using pirate version of xp cracking the WGA through 4 steps or ...going to buy a legit copy again hmmmm ????

xaross said,
at first they was microsoft letting every one have a copy ... so every computer system in the world would be they costumer in further needs

and know they are complaining about pirating their software :S
let me you all remind you most of the money and profit they doing is from closing deals with country's so every
computer system in a country has a legal copy that means ...that in a country has let say 2 million computers using xp at the price of 50 euros .. ( at the past time) it makes 100 millions and this 100 millions are pay from the people living in that country through taxes ...:S so it is like i have already pay for my copy

so what i prefer using pirate version of xp cracking the WGA through 4 steps or ...going to buy a legit copy again hmmmm ????

Thanks for admitting you're a pirate. I'm sure most people here are anyway, but not many outwardly admit to it.

/- Razorfold said,
yes...so just because you pay taxes everything should be free to you?

I'm confused.

you shouldn't be... i didn't say say everything should be free .... but when it comes to operating system microsoft xp should be free for a non commercial use ..simple i pay it ones through taxes so every computer i know in government or school has windows xp legally

and i do not support piracy when it comes to commercial use i support it when it comes to non commercial use

It won't matter if you bypass product checks, there will be definition updates that target WGA bypass routines, so effectively if you run this software illegally, great.

Well being a program that requires daily updates, I guess it would easy for MS to constantly update MSE to look for the WGA workarounds.

But no one's really saying what we are all possibly thinking... Who REALLY wants Antivirus software from M$ anyway?!

M$? Oh, I see what you did there. Very clever (Y)

To answer the question, probably all the people who have installed it already tbh.

Well, if one bothered to read up on the product and get some feedback, one would see it is a very respected, lightweight, and effective security product.

Or you could purposely misspell the company name and act like it's a piece of garbage without actually trying it. That's much more credible.

It would be most helpful if MSE included a copy of Norton's removal software, so that it can gradually be erased from every computer unfortunate enough to be burdened with it.

leesmithg said,
I have a kosher version of VHP, however, I downloaded it fine, but, it won't install.

Maybe Norton not like it.

Duh!
Uninstall Norton and this will install fine.

Better yet, uninstall Nortons, break the installation disc's up then throw them out.

I just installed the Windows 7 RTM without a key so it is unactivated.
I was able to install Security Essentials. During setup, the validation screen opened and it confirmed that the version of Windows was genuine.

That's because Windows 7 does not have a WGA checker yet. The general release needs to be out so they can finally put out a WGA tool on Windows Update. Try going on IE8 and to one of the sites needing WGA checks. It will say Windows 7 is not yet supported.

OmniouS said,
I just installed the Windows 7 RTM without a key so it is unactivated.
I was able to install Security Essentials. During setup, the validation screen opened and it confirmed that the version of Windows was genuine.


As it should. Windows Vista and later versions see Windows as genuine during the 30 day initial grace period. After the 30 days it won't pass validation anymore.

Karo - 323z IT said,
That's because Windows 7 does not have a WGA checker yet. The general release needs to be out so they can finally put out a WGA tool on Windows Update. Try going on IE8 and to one of the sites needing WGA checks. It will say Windows 7 is not yet supported.


Err what? WGA is built into Windows 7 as it was in Windows Vista. See my reply right above this one for why he is able to pass WGA even without a key.

While a WGA check is carried out during installation, it is not difficult to work around it and get MSE installed, running and updated.

(Before anyone whinges about my 'hooky' copy of Windows, I do have a full, genuine XP Pro license to cover the install - but as it is on a hardware test-rig it is easier to use the hooky one as it doesn't complain everytime it detects hardware changes)

Microsoft is doing this for obvious reason. They want to stir up controversial issue that should not have been existed in the first place to get more MSE users.

The only place this will be effective is your average Joe who doesn't know their copy of Windows is pirated. Those who got them from small computer shops who install pirated copies to save themselves money.

Or in China where millions and millions of average people use a pirated version of Windows that still passes validation. Like Activation, validation is a total waste of time and resources.

DrScouse said,
lol.. yeah that'll teach them!!!

MS spent plenty of money developing MSE and will continue to pay to keep the definitions up to date. Why should they give this to those that pirate the OS?

DrScouse said,
lol.. yeah that'll teach them!!!

My thoughts exactly. No Mse!? Oh noes! :rofl:
MS has already shown once that they fail hard at security software with their uber-crappy OneCare.
They've also already shown that they like to abuse their position as security software provider, when they once classified Firefox as malware, because they didn't want people using it instead of IE.

agreenbhm said,
MS spent plenty of money developing MSE and will continue to pay to keep the definitions up to date. Why should they give this to those that pirate the OS?

People who pirate Windows generally tend to pirate Kaspersky and NoD32 as well. Not sure if they are going to miss SE.

libertas83 said,
If someone is running pirated Windows, I'm sure they will figure out how to pirate MSE or any other Anti-Virus tool.

There is no need to pirate MSE, it's easy enough to crack the WGA system and have Windows believe that it's genuine.

I have a friend that modded his BIOS boots pirated XP, Vista and 7 (they all show genuine and activated and passes all WGA checks) and has no issues whatsoever when it comes to installing things like this or anything else from Microsoft.

GreyWolfSC said,
One could just pay for the operating system one uses on a daily basis and not worry about WGA checks. :)


Indeed. Crazy how much time people invest to steal something.

GreyWolfSC said,
One could just pay for the operating system one uses on a daily basis and not worry about WGA checks. :)

+1 imho I would rather spend my time actually using the OS instead of wasting time chasing the latest crack or workaround for WGA

GreyWolfSC said,
One could just pay for the operating system one uses on a daily basis and not worry about WGA checks. :)

yup, i ran pirated xp for a while and while it wasnt alot of trouble, i think my main OS should be paid for and trouble free
i bought vista ultimate, and while the ultimate part was a kip, i like not having to worry when getting updates etc

Frazell Thomas said,
Indeed. Crazy how much time people invest to steal something.

Investing to steal? Now that's a funny remark or should I say dumb rotflmao

When you install it (not when you download it), it does a check to see if you are running a "genuine" copy of Windows.