PlayStation 4 won't be always-online

According to a recent interview with Sony's president of Worldwide Studios, Shuhei Yoshida, in the latest issue of Game Informer, the PlayStation 4 will not be an always-online console. The reason for the console not requiring a constant internet connection is because of the differences in the reliability of internet services in different countries, with many locales not having up-to-scratch connections.

Yoshida said:

Did we consider [an always online console]? No, we didn't consider it. The main reason being that many countries don’t have robust Internet connections. It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw [that] do not really have robust Internet.

The issue of always-online game consoles is a contentious one, as there is a lot of debate currently surrounding the next Xbox, which may or may not be require a persistent internet connection depending on the rumors you read. The latest report, sourced from an internal email to staff working on the Xbox, seems to indicate the console won't be always online, although we won't know for sure until the console is detailed later this month.

Meanwhile, the PlayStation 4 is slated for launch in the holiday period at the end of the year, with more information to come at E3 2013 in June.

Source: GameSpot

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Yeah it's still too early to go 'cloud' only and not have an alternative installation method.. Although I hear that is what Adobe are doing with their next release

Just want to point out that some game publishers want to prevent used games from being able to access multiplayer services unless they pay for a license to play online.
Reasoning being that once a game is sold, that's the only money from that copy/unit of the game they see - they don't see any money coming in from used games that are sold again and again (barring DLC which is tied to a unique user)

My source: friends who work in the game industry

Anyone who listens to rumours and takes them to heart are stupid. Big companies fuel the rumour mill for a reason: To get the fanboys with low IQ's arguing amongst themselves because they take rumours as gospel. Sheesh.

I bet most of you can't sleep because you take so much crap to heart. It's a game console, purely a machine. Go make love with your girlfriend or something, because that's what I'd rather do than worry about silly rumours, being with my lady is the best thing ever. I fix machines for a living, but I DON'T sweat in anticipation of false hope, worrying if my life is going to end if the next Xbox will play older games or need a 24/7 internet connection!! I pity some people, I really do, and am sick and tired of hearing this whinging rubbish of "Will it? Won't it?"

Wait till everything is announced OFFICIALLY, then make your plans, but life won't end either way!!

Always online is different then REQUIRED ONLINE.

This entire mess and entire string of stupid rumors has been perpetuated ONLY because people are to stupid to understand the differences.


Always Online = if a network is present the unit will stay online even when turned off to download updates, DLC etc when not in use. In single player games online can be used like in Dragons Dogma. Low power mode allows online connectivity for these functions even when powered off

Required Online: The console fails to start up or function without an available network.

They are VERY different and mean VERY different things, if people would have had even a iota of thought into it all these stupid rumors could have been avoided.

Spirit Dave said,
XBox will NOT be "always on". Microsoft may not always make everyone happy but they're not idiots.

They have said they aren't requiring it but its up to the developers discretion so you are guaranteed to see some of them enable it for anti piracy protection.

TheLegendOfMart said,

They have said they aren't requiring it but its up to the developers discretion so you are guaranteed to see some of them enable it for anti piracy protection.

So the same as with pc games

TheLegendOfMart said,

They have said they aren't requiring it but its up to the developers discretion so you are guaranteed to see some of them enable it for anti piracy protection.

They haven't said anything of that sort. Where do you get all this FUD from?

TheLegendOfMart said,

They have said they aren't requiring it but its up to the developers discretion so you are guaranteed to see some of them enable it for anti piracy protection.

1. They have not said any such thing
2. How is that different from Sony?

I still am perplexed at the amount of people that thought there was an even remote possibility that Xbox would require an internet connection to do anything. And the "banning used games" one, that was a good one to see people absolutely lose their nuts over too.

Some people believed the next Xbox would require an Internet connection, but some other people WANTED the next Xbox to have one. Why? Because they lack some part of their brain, and somehow wanting something to fail fulfills their wildest dreams.

TRC said,
Did anyone think it would be? The rumor was about the Xbox.

All the Xbox fanboys going "......but......but Sony hasn't said they wouldn't yet.".

TheLegendOfMart said,

All the Xbox fanboys going "......but......but Sony hasn't said they wouldn't yet.".

TBF the Sony fanboys were saying it was definitely true.

RatherLargeBear said,

TBF the Sony fanboys were saying it was definitely true.


They said in the PS Meeting back in Feb and when they were quizzed by the press over the next few months that online wouldn't be required, this is just reconfirming it.

TheLegendOfMart said,

They said in the PS Meeting back in Feb and when they were quizzed by the press over the next few months that online wouldn't be required, this is just reconfirming it.

I was talking about the Xbox rumor.

RatherLargeBear said,

TBF the Sony fanboys were saying it was definitely true.

TBF, the creative director being an ass clown coupled with complete silence from Microsoft led people to believing otherwise...

Don't think this is a surprise to anyone considering the route Sony is taking with all other aspects of its console/services, well it may come as a surprise to Hawkman......

drazgoosh said,
Sony are doing it right. Hopefully Microsoft will do this as well.

hope, its been confirmed that it wont and all the rubbish was based of a stupid rumour as well, Jesus Christ mud deffo sticks doesn't it?

drazgoosh said,
There are still rumours going on that they might give the option to developers (DRM kinda situation).

yes, but that is upto devs and would simply be stupid for single player games. It wont happen, the fact that this is being discussed based on a nothing rumour still is ridiculous.

drazgoosh said,
There are still rumours going on that they might give the option to developers (DRM kinda situation).

The OPTION...has ALWAYS been there in the current gen as well.
Wow, that rumor started by N4G's Rtard brigade really stuck around, unbelievable.
ONE line in the leaked Durango SDK by SuperDAE said that it would be always connected without anybody knowing the specifics of it (remaining uptodate).
Shame that most of the press and folk on the internet didn't know any better and propagated the same rumor as "news" just as hard.

BTW, Sony isn't doing anything right. They are just confirming this now after a leaked internal mail from MS confirmed this too.
Yoshida was asked this question before and he clearly avoided giving a clear answer if Sony themselves would implement this and said the option was there for the other publishers.
The Xbox Infinity and PS4 in base are both expected always online, not required always online. The only truly always online gaming service is the Gaikai one from Sony.

Edited by Thief000, May 8 2013, 3:33pm :

drazgoosh said,
Sony are doing it right. Hopefully Microsoft will do this as well.

Wait, when did everyone stop hating Sony? Is having a rumor of a competitor doing something that sounds remotely akin to DRM all it takes?

Man, that's where smartphone competitors are screwing up, then. Microsoft needs to start rumors about new DRM policies coming to Key Lime Pie.

drazgoosh said,
There are still rumours going on that they might give the option to developers (DRM kinda situation).

Devs can require always on internet connections now. That's always been an option.