Poll: If Microsoft twist, will you stick? [Update]

In the wake of the recent Xbox One announcement(s), we now know that owning Microsoft's next generation console will come with enough restrictions to make a state prison jealous. And while the general internet voice has spoken in favour of purchasing a PS4, Amazon have recorded high numbers of Xbox One pre-orders.

Prior to Windows 8's launch, Microsoft said that the Start Button, Start Menu and Boot to Desktop would not be made available without third party tools. But as we've all seen by now, Windows 8.1 has a Start Button and it seems that we will have the option to boot straight to Desktop, avoiding the Start Screen altogether. From the outside, it look like Microsoft bowed to consumer pressure once, but with the Xbox One, will they be prepared to do it again?

Our very own Tim Schiesser, during general chatter with the other reporters, said that the average consumer won't care or worry about the restrictions. Not to say he's wrong as I can see his point, but myself as an individual has spoken with friends and work colleagues, all of whom are Xbox gamers, and due to the restrictions on used games, the online requirements and Kinect, they are all looking to switch to the PS4 when both it and the Xbox One hit the shelves in November. So the question has to be asked:

As an Xbox owner, if Microsoft was to admit it made a mistake, and changed its policies, would you stay with the Xbox?”

The responses were as expected, but the best one made for the title of this poll. “Why would you twist when you can stick?

For those of you that haven't heard this expression before (maybe it's a cultural thing), but "Stick or twist" comes from playing card games, you can keep the cards you have "stick" or you can risk losing and say "twist" for more.

So we put it to you, fellow Neowinians. Those of you that have decided to switch to the PS4 because of the restrictions that will be put in place, or those of you that are still debating whether to make the jump, Will you stick, or twist?

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[Update] Thanks to everyone that has responded so far. The reason for the update is based on reader responses that suggest there should be more options to choose from in the poll. While it will always be the case that some consumers will buy both, we wanted to focus on the amount of people that have said they will switch consoles, not favour one over the other. Thanks guys, and have a good weekend.

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If Microsoft was to admit it made a mistake with its policies and restrictions around the Xbox One, regardless of cost, would you stick or twist?

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I believe Microsoft is making a big misstake and how they going about this Xbox1. If they keep these DRM requirements they going to be in trouble trying to sell this. Not everyone in the world has internet. I personnally will not be buying either system. I love my Xbox360 and I quite a big game collection. I just have no reason to upgrade at this point.

Whist media streaming is free on the PlayStation, and not on the Xbox... I will go for the PlayStation every time! A shame though, as I do love Microsoft.

PS4 all the way for me. Can't wait to get it on launch day, although it may take a few months for some of the better games to come out. Xbox has far too much bad publicity surrounding it. Heck, Sony's stocks jumped up 9% after the Xbox reveal.

I preordered both, however, I am starting to really lean towards the PS4. I think the ugliest thing I read was if your account is banned in anyway, you forfeit everything you ever bought, even if you own the disc. I have heard about Steam doing this before, but never actually talked to someone it happened to. Why would I be concerned? Kids man... kids sometimes do things.

I would also like to be able to play through the Mass Effect series, or something else, when I am old and retired.

You're not supposed to use common sense in these decisions, just blindly trust and pay your money without considering any of this. Another good point.

We don't know what the DRM will bring, they need to explain it... rather then just say "it will benefit gamers"...

But assumingly it will allow for lower costs of games, which im open to.

If their DRM policies were the same as those announced for the PS4, I would definitely get an Xbox One. I always intended to get all 3 consoles, but with the current Xbox One DRM I am for the first time not doing that.

Doesn't matter to me much. I already preordered XB1. My main PC is on 24/7 and always connects anyway. I buy XB1, because it is a whole package now. Kinect2 will offer more creative interactions between gamers and AI. Also it will complete my ecosystem: XB1, surface, and WP8.

Microsoft's attitude with W8 and Xbone have convinced me I don't want to spend any more money than I have to with a company that has this kind of behavior. Moving from windows has been difficult, but easier than in years past. Moving from Xbox to PS4, very easy and not even considering Xbone regardless of how much they change...and they will. I just don't want M$ having control over whether or not my machine will work in a few years, just screw that.

Only thing I want them to reconsider is the 24h online check. Treating customers like thieves is not the way to go.

dont worry about the exclusive title crap, microsoft are going for the whole "cross platform" feel, nearly all the games i have seen for the xbox are going to be ported to PC at release or after anyway.

If you have a capable PC get a PS:4 (you should do they cheap as hell these days, cheaper than one of the new consoles to play games on a ok setting, one that would be on par with console anyway).

I'll probably buy a PS4 but not for the DRM thing. The DRM thing just make my decision easier. I bought an XBox instead of a PS2 for obvious reason. The graphics were better, the controller better and i loved Halo. I bought a 360 because i really ccould not stand the Dual Shock 3 and i loved my XBox.

But so far the 360 has been a disappointment to me. Two of my XBox 360 broke on me. A launch model who RRoDed and an elite 250GB model whose HDMI port stopped working.

Also i have a PC and most of the XBox 360 exclusives was also avalaible on PC. I love shooters as much as anymore but too much is like not enough. There was simply way too much PC shooters on 360 and not enough of your typical quirky lighthearted console game. While MS did present interesting games at EA (Below, Spark) the highlight of their event was still an XBox/PC exclusive shooter Titanfall.

While i was not impressed by Sony lineup of games i'm confident looking at the current generation that the PS4 lineup will be diversified with games like Journey and games like Killzone and such. In the last 2 years there was more PS3 games i actually wanted to play than 360 games.

I like what i saw of the Dual Shock 4 so far and since i can own one console only i'm willing to give Sony a chance next generation. I like to talk with my wallet and 2 broken XBox 360 and too much shooters for my taste will make me give my money to Sony. All the DRM crap just make it easier for me.

Want to know what will turn be off? The fact all my friends are not dumb and they will buy a PS:4, this means to play with them online i should also buy a PS:4..

With most people buying PS:4's due to price alone without even mentioning the restrictions getting the PS:4 will be a no thinking needed choice for most.

Because of the restrictions thats going to push more people to buy a PS:4 this more of those peoples "friends" will also follow and get a PS:4 so they can play with there friends online.

This, and as seen before when Xbox became a larger market share. Many Playstation exclusives became available on Xbox. Won't surprise me of some 3rd party publishers with X1 exclusives might eventually make a PS4 version too if the PS4's market share will exceed X1's. And by the current looks of it, it will.

All the reasons people hate the xbox are the reasons I'll get it. The PS4 is fine but just more of what we have now which is fine but, to me, boring and pretty pointless. However, by including Kinect the xbox actually has a chance to introduce new elements to gaming. I love the idea of stealth game reacting to how I'm reacting, so if my heart rate goes up so does my chance of discovery. The are a million subtle ways to use kinect that weren't there before. Including it is a risky but long term play and I'm positive MS knows they will eat it for while with the higher price but they actually have a vision here.

As for the used game policy, it is comical to me that people are so overwrought because you can sell it once, just like it is now but even more hilarious is that previously all anyone did was complain about taking a game to gamestop to get $8 and then seeing on the shelf a week later for $40. They profited enormously from criminally high margins on their used games but somehow they are heroes now. Just silly and besides it is far more economical for me to share game libraries with a few people than buy and sell used stuff that that alone reason enough for me to it xb1 over the ps4.

If they did away with ALL online checks, and allowed normal Disc based game sharing and trading as well as let you use Netflix without a Gold account, Yes I would buy one.

Don't expect a dramatic change. Similar to Windows 8.1 there is no dramatic change to how the Start screen works.
Why is the media so focused on the negative aspects of the Xbox One? There are also benefits of moving the license check to the cloud.
A few thousand people who don't have an internet connection (like the people in military) can't play on the new Xbox. But seriously who cares? They can play on the 360 or PlayStation. Microsoft wants to make money through their Xbox Live service. I don't see this so negative.

Even if you favor the X1 you should care.
In the end people without 24/7 all year round available internet, a lot of these people are changing their minds and thinking of going PS4 or PC.Don't forget, friends/family of people ditching Xbox might do it too, due to wanting the ability to play together.
This will be millions of people, enough to favor the market much towards Sony.
Game publishers will put their focus on the PS4. Sony getting more exclusives, getting the focus of engine development, the focus on features.....
As a X1 gamer this will affect you.

But enjoy

There's way too many unknowns. What happens if I get banned, or if I want to play my game in 50 years? Provide REAL answers and fix the broken check in times, have lower game prices if I can't trade them in, and maybe yeah, I would consider it.

If Microsoft changed their always online policy and this new 'if you get banned you lose all your games', I would stick. I'm looking to get a PS4 in about a year, just waiting out the first batch of next gen consoles to see what happens.

if microsoft sold an sku with no kinect, no online checks and no horrible used games policy then all would be well, even though their gpu is 50% less powerful than sony's and they have slower memory.

Why would i spend £80 more for a cctv camera to watch me, worse gpu, horrible drm and horrible used games policies?

The only exclusive game they have that i'd want is forza, that's literally it. So there's no reason to get it over a ps4.

They may alter their current policy, but it will be halfassed along with a press release explaining why they chose to halfass it. ****em. They lost me when all my current digital purchases were invalidated.

If Microsoft removes all the draconian DRM restrictions and make it just like the 360 I will purchase a couple of them. Sony sells unreliable products so I will never purchase another one from them again but I actually considered it for a day or two (lol) after what Microsoft has done with the Xbox One.

So this means I will not be purchasing a console this generation unless Microsoft makes the restrictions more in line with the 360. I have basically lost faith in Microsoft with Windows 8 and now the Xbox One but they can get it back again if they start listening to their customers.

SecretAgentMan said,
If Microsoft removes all the draconian DRM restrictions and make it just like the 360 I will purchase a couple of them. Sony sells unreliable products so I will never purchase another one from them again but I actually considered it for a day or two (lol) after what Microsoft has done with the Xbox One.

So this means I will not be purchasing a console this generation unless Microsoft makes the restrictions more in line with the 360. I have basically lost faith in Microsoft with Windows 8 and now the Xbox One but they can get it back again if they start listening to their customers.

Unreliable products? The x360 was plagued by the red ring of death in the years after it launched.

One product they fixed. I went through multiple Walkmans, televisions and PlayStations over the years before I finally got fed up with their unreliable products. This is why I skipped the PS2 and PS3.

I gave Sony years of support but never again and this is why I will be skipping consoles this time unless Microsoft starts listening to their customers.

Hmm. Personally had an old Walkman that survived over 10 years. Then a Walkman from a few years back (like the ipod) survived a lot more then it should've until someone stole it.
PS2 went on for 6 years with falling damage, drowning controllers and more with thousands of hours a year until eventually the laser became to weak.
PSX through similar and more falling damage due to awkwardly short 1meter controller cables although for just 4 years(still have it, still works as of last year). Vita went through several 1,5 meter falls onto concrete and metal without a protective casing.

Sony's support is and always has been horrible though. 360 support was/is a lot better.

But might be you've had a few duds. In general my experience with Sony hardware wise has always been more then decent.

Haha, now we already know at least 1/3 of the DRM crybabies are PS fanboys, the opinion of which barely matters in regards of Xbox.

You don't need to be a PS fanboy to realize this X1 is going to screw over A LOT of people that are not as fortunate as all of us who seem to have 24/7 unlimited broadband and free/cheap roaming 3g/LTE.
Even in the US and EU there are millions of people that don't have the most stable internet connection like you and me.
It doesn't personally affect me at all as I am not a console FPS player, I prefer fighting and racing on it. And for that Sony always has been and will be better for me personally. Have no interest in purchasing the Xbox, 360 nor the X1. But I still think this 24hour check-in is idiotic.
The DRM besides the check-in is pretty much unchanged and the same as Sony's.

bviktor said,
Haha, now we already know at least 1/3 of the DRM crybabies are PS fanboys

Got a source on this, or are you just spewing made up info out of your you-know-what?

@Shadowzz : except this vote is about a case where Microsoft would REVERT all those changes you whine about. Those who still say it's not good enough (i.e. same policies as with Xbox 360 and a lot of new features) are obviously haters like you and your fellow cry babies.

The Bloo Monkey, how appropirate, I won't even respond to you coz you're obviously a bored teen.

I will not commit to either console for years to come. So I'm looking forward to MS continued succes with the X360.

After a few years it should be clear which console will be leading that generation. That will be the one I pick. I've come to realize I find that more important then whether the Xbone has restrictions. Although I suspect Xbone will have a hard time becoming the lead with all those restrictions.

I prefer the Xbox One, and I like what they have done with the Kinect. Everyone who is complaining about the DRM and Always on, should have been complaining about Blu-ray being shoved down everyone's throat, and how Sony's been Screwing us all in the purchasing of Movies. So Sony can kiss my fanny.

That said.... MICROSOFT, as a former Marine that spent over 4 years in the desert, with my Xbox, I am supporting my comrades on here. NO Xbox One for me. If they can not have, I will not have.

This they should buy a 360 is BS. They will buy PS4, and that's a fact.

Understandable. And the troops arent the only group that is being alienated by MS. They are just an example. More minorities will report in.

And whoever said that those people should get a 360 should be fired on the spot. That is incredibly arrogant and not befitting of a company that is doing so poorly in other markets.

And pride comes before the fall. Sony learned that lesson with the PS3. Perhaps Microsoft is in need to learn it.. again.

I hope they don't change anything. XBOX ONE is awesome the way it is.
I don't understand what all the crying is all about.
If you don't like it, don't buy it. MS ain't gonna miss you.
If you don't buy one, then you obviously weren't an XBOX fan.
There's absolutely nothing that I don't like about the XBOX ONE.

Nonsensical since everyone has DRM on their system. It's either locked to a disc, locked to hardware, or locked to an Internet account. The question you should ask is "which restriction do you prefer"

if the whole needing to check every 24 hrs was dropped and i could buy used games from bloody anywhere id concider buying, but i think illo pass on all of the consoles this time round and stick to my pc

XB1 regardless. I'm invested in the ecosystem already. PS4 looks nice but it's appeal is also a limiting factor in the long run. Like it or not the XB1 model has more longevity. It definitely needs tweaks such as with the check-in frequency. It also needs more clarification on the used/rental front. While the price is initially steeper, it'll do much more out of the box than PS4.

There's that old saying that a person is smart and people are stupid. I think when PS4 rode the 'no drm' pony into E3 the 'mob mentality' set in. MS should take some of that to heart, tweak their policies a little, clarify a few things and they'll be set to have good success with XB1. Also a little damage control never hurt either.

Bottom line:
If you solely want gaming then PS4.
If you want gaming + everything else then XB1

Uhm.. The PS3 is fine for entertainment too and this will only improve with PS4.
Can watch movies, series and listen to music on it as with the 360 and X1.
Only thing it lacks is the tv-tuner thing... Which comes default with ANY TV IN THE WORLD. And modern TV's have smartcard readers build in. No need for a separate little box. It's becoming a rare sight in my country to see people using old set up boxes and all. Mostly the older folks with older TV's.

Nah not really. Once they've pushed this far, they'll keep trying. Like CISPA and all those acts and whatnot, they go extreme, get a backlash then go back a bit and go to the same point but much slower so you don't have a choice.

-Remove Kinect always in
-Remove used game policy
-Remove 24 hours check, change it to a week or fortnight

Then you have a winning console, oh wait PS4 already exists...

trihawk7 said,
-Remove Kinect always in
-Remove used game policy
-Remove 24 hours check, change it to a week or fortnight

Then you have a winning console, oh wait PS4 already exists...

-Remove 24 hours check, change it to a week or fortnight = change it for only once.

Agreed with the check-in. Make it once a week or even once period.
You can turn Kinect off or at least disable it to some degree. It's in one of the FAQs...
The used game policy is a big one and I think they'll revisit that. They better!

You can't make it once a week without having locked licenses. That means you go to friends to play you're game it would be, "sorry, another console has that game locked." If it didn't 100 people could just log in once a week, get a license, and play the game. 24 hours is short enough to make it inconvenient to game the license system.

Spicoli said,
You can't make it once a week without having locked licenses. That means you go to friends to play you're game it would be, "sorry, another console has that game locked." If it didn't 100 people could just log in once a week, get a license, and play the game. 24 hours is short enough to make it inconvenient to game the license system.

They could implement a different system.
I.E. trading can only be done with an active connection. Serial keys. Or good ol' online activation.
I'm quite sure people will be a lot happier with these.
Common Microsoft there might be people abusing this by never connecting their Xbox to the internet perhaps. But common, few games nowadays doesn't require an internet connection on its own? ...

Every 'open' way has some collateral piracy. I'm quite sure this can be taken for granted considering this closed down DRM scheme is causing millions of players to switch systems.
Look around, many former 360 players are going for a PS4. Microsoft is already taking damage and neither have joined the new generation yet.
Sony was losing ground in the west. From total market dominance to ~50% 360/PS3. They surely have a much stronger position now

Although I think X1 will still remain large in the US, however in the EU (especially with many countries with sh*tty internet) if Microsoft won't chance their stance. They will lose bigtime.

Almost all I know that have consoles, take them with em on occasion, parties, hang outs, holidays, long boat trips, military deployment... And in many of these cases the X1 is worthless. Adding the idea alone of being forced a check every 24hours. When it happens on average 1,5times a year to individual they lose internet connection, especially outside rural area's...
And even if these people are not the majority, this will affect what friends/family around them will buy. In my area the PS3 is dominant. However a few towns over the 360 is. It varies in area's. This was the same in PSX/PS2 days. (not sure if its similar outside my country, I imagine it is) And since quite a few 360 people are switching for PS4 already......

People often turn to their TV's and consoles in internet less environments.

laserfloyd said,
[...]You can turn Kinect off or at least disable it to some degree. It's in one of the FAQs...

I reckon most people are aware of that. Personally I think that would be enough for me. However, people are just worried about not being able to do a 'hardware disconnect' by simply unplugging the connect in its entirety. That might sound a bit over paranoid but so would the NSA's Prism if someone mentioned it as a hypothesis five years ago.

im getting the xbox regardless. they can stick to their guns, they can bend to the whiners, the One is going to be awesome and none of that drm, online checkin, or spying kinect affects me.

The PS4 will be a great alternative and will be nothing short of awesome as well....something for everyone!

Vu Nguyen said,
im getting the xbox regardless. they can stick to their guns, they can bend to the whiners, the One is going to be awesome and none of that drm, online checkin, or spying kinect affects me.

The PS4 will be a great alternative and will be nothing short of awesome as well....something for everyone!

And then you have a broadband outage over the long bank holiday weekend, and it's the best part of a week before a technition is able get out to fix your connection.
You're left holding your Xbone gamepad while looking out of the Window.

Or, coming home from work to find the xbox live went down moments before you got back. Luckily you had a late night session of hardcore gaming, so you still have a few hours to left to get into a juicy single player mission before the xbox kicks you off because it can't authrorise your account/game. Go bed, and cry the night away.

Or your account banned for having the word 'Gay' in it, or you used that word to describe yourself. - of course that's no longer the case, but as an argument sake of what could (and did at one point) happen. You might find you have no games to play, since they're all tried to your account.

Sure that would be inconvenient, but hardly the end of the world. Luckily most of us here can simply bypass that issue with a tether to their phone/tablet.

I have yet to fathom why people take this issue so seriously.

I do have to raise an eyebrow at those folks who dismiss the entirely valid concerns of many many gamers as 'whiners' - not sure if you are just completely unable to empathise with the situations of other people or you're exceptionally short sighted. There are countless scenarios for gamers which make the Xbox One a terrible proposition..

I have to say that Microsoft's usual arrogance in this matter has totally put me off going anywhere near the Xbox One!

Vu Nguyen said,
im getting the xbox regardless. they can stick to their guns, they can bend to the whiners, the One is going to be awesome and none of that drm, online checkin, or spying kinect affects me.

The PS4 will be a great alternative and will be nothing short of awesome as well....something for everyone!

Chicane-UK said,
I do have to raise an eyebrow at those folks who dismiss the entirely valid concerns of many many gamers as 'whiners' - not sure if you are just completely unable to empathise with the situations of other people or you're exceptionally short sighted. There are countless scenarios for gamers which make the Xbox One a terrible proposition..

I have to say that Microsoft's usual arrogance in this matter has totally put me off going anywhere near the Xbox One!

empathize? Its a gaming machine....

Raise an eyebrow, raise two, raise your hand, it really doesnt matter.

my suggestion is to get the PS4 for those folks. speak with your wallets people, thats all you can do. If MS changes their stance, good for you, but it changes nothing for me. I will play games on xbox one, use its media features, play soccer, live my life.

I see no reason for the uproar. I do not think MS will be spying on me...and if they did, all they would see is me sitting there...wow, if they want that, they are wasting their time.

DRM: Im always connected. Power outage? go ride my bike, play soccer, watch tv, play on the 360.

Used games: I dont sell my games; I dont buy used games; with the exception of a few select titles on launch day, I always buy new games from best buy, target, amazon when the game is 1-2 months old and the price drops 10-20 dollars, which is the price of used games that are relatively new.

sagum said,

And then you have a broadband outage over the long bank holiday weekend, and it's the best part of a week before a technition is able get out to fix your connection.
You're left holding your Xbone gamepad while looking out of the Window.

Or, coming home from work to find the xbox live went down moments before you got back. Luckily you had a late night session of hardcore gaming, so you still have a few hours to left to get into a juicy single player mission before the xbox kicks you off because it can't authrorise your account/game. Go bed, and cry the night away.

Or your account banned for having the word 'Gay' in it, or you used that word to describe yourself. - of course that's no longer the case, but as an argument sake of what could (and did at one point) happen. You might find you have no games to play, since they're all tried to your account.

true, those things could happen, but I could also get hit by a bus tomorrow. Im just not worried about it.

The Xbox One will be an awesome machine.

Chicane-UK said,
There are countless scenarios for gamers which make the Xbox One a terrible proposition..
And yet you didn't pointed one out.

Here are some thoughts: this whole difference about DRM is only effecting disc based offline games you want to play longer that 24h. It really is not the end of the world. And as others have pointed out you can establish a connection to your phone and play for additional 24h. This scenario is so extremely rare! And why not watch a BluRay until the network works again?

But the benefits are: you can move to your friend and take all your games and even your Gold pass with you. You can share your games (maybe even downloaded games, that's not entirely clear yet) without giving away your super expensive premium package that you may get back with scratches on.

There are always two sides to this. And in several years we may not purchase disc based games anymore. Who knows?

What about the countless millions of people who just don't have broadband internet at home? Not just in the USA but international. Or members of the armed forces. I didn't think I had to give examples as they have been widely discussed or are blindingly obvious.

tiadimundo said,
And yet you didn't pointed one out.

Here are some thoughts: this whole difference about DRM is only effecting disc based offline games you want to play longer that 24h. It really is not the end of the world. And as others have pointed out you can establish a connection to your phone and play for additional 24h. This scenario is so extremely rare! And why not watch a BluRay until the network works again?

But the benefits are: you can move to your friend and take all your games and even your Gold pass with you. You can share your games (maybe even downloaded games, that's not entirely clear yet) without giving away your super expensive premium package that you may get back with scratches on.

There are always two sides to this. And in several years we may not purchase disc based games anymore. Who knows?

Chicane-UK said,
What about the countless millions of people who just don't have broadband internet at home? Not just in the USA but international. Or members of the armed forces. I didn't think I had to give examples as they have been widely discussed or are blindingly obvious.


Add in the millions in both US and EU etc. That regularly go on holidays and take their console with them.
In the EU forexample, its quite pricey to go roaming on 3g/LTE in foreign countries. Where it will be by the MB's. And that can quickly add up if you have a heafty game library and has to be done on a daily base.

Shadowzz said,

Add in the millions in both US and EU etc. That regularly go on holidays and take their console with them.
In the EU forexample, its quite pricey to go roaming on 3g/LTE in foreign countries. Where it will be by the MB's. And that can quickly add up if you have a heafty game library and has to be done on a daily base.

That won't matter too much in the EU, half the EU states won't even have access to Live with the XBOX One

Vu Nguyen said,
[...]DRM: Im always connected. Power outage? go ride my bike, play soccer, watch tv, play on the 360.

You could also write more condescending phrases in your Hello Kitty diary. So when the internet comes back you come to this forum and share them with the rest of us.

Vu Nguyen said,
Used games: I dont sell my games; I dont buy used games; with the exception of a few select titles on launch day, I always buy new games from best buy, target, amazon when the game is 1-2 months old and the price drops 10-20 dollars, which is the price of used games that are relatively new.

Good for you. Now statistically speaking: Who named you the sole sample that represents the entire population of gamers?

bitflusher said,
- I will buy the xbox even without a twist

Same, should have been an option. I have no intent on buying either console, but if I were, it would have been an X1, the DRM thing and "zomg they're watching me poo" paranoia doesn't bother me, some of Sony's history does.

bitflusher said,
I feel there are missing options like

- I will buy the xbox even without a twist
- I was and will buy a PS no matter what

I dunno about them options, but I have a few friends who've opted to go PC only in light of the entire DRM issues from both the PS4 and the Xbox one.

Right now, Microsoft needs to make some big changes to the way they market their games library. If they want to go the steam route as suggested by the anon leak, then they're going to have to give gamers the same type of advantage they get on steam.

Cross platform, buy once play anyware, for games. With my steam account, if I have a game listed for PC, Mac or Linux I can play that game on any of the plat forms.
Under Microsoft's accounts, I can have the same game listed for Windows Phone, Windows 8, Windows Games for Live, and Xbox. Yet, they expect me to buy and pay for each platform.
And the same goes for the apps too, Take gleek for example, the popular twitter app. Buy on windows phone, and then buy again on windows 8.. same application, same account, but paying twice. Fair enough that's a 3rd party app, but the majority of games on steam are all 3rd party too but still let me do it.

Microsoft say it'll lower the cost of games and let the bring us sale prices... well, they could have already done that with their on-demand gaming service, that's pretty much exactly like what they're trying to do with the XBox one already. Yet did we see any sale prices that are anywhere close to that of Steam? Nope. Did we see them put the majority of their games on to on demand? nope. It's a failed system that they're trying to push out with one reason. To lock people into the Microsoft eco system, so that you'll have a healthy amount of money invested into their own accounts that you'll simply not be able to sell up and move to a different platform.

sagum said,

...


But PS4's DRM is unchanged compared to the PS3's DRM. Which is more open and free then the PS2, PSX and any other previous console in history ever since the Americans, Japenese and Europeans started using PAL/NTSC.
So if your friend has a PS3, he's kinda hypocrite though.

The app thing is exactly the same on PS3/Vita. However this will change and improve with PS4.
Cause every PS4 title is required to support the Vita, every PS4 title that's also released on the Vita, will be a 1 purchase for both. (very few PS3/Vita titles now are).

IMO Sony only improved this generation, be it slightly. It surely hasn't become worse.

bitflusher said,
I feel there are missing options like

- I will buy the xbox even without a twist
- I was and will buy a PS no matter what

That isn't the focus of the article

The poll is about the Xbox One and if you'll switch or not. If you still intend to buy it regardless then vote there. It isn't asking if you want both consoles

If Microsoft was to admit it made a mistake with it's policies and restrictions around the Xbox One, regardless of cost, would you stick or twist?

Mere admitting they committed a murder is going to get them no love. They have to come clean by removing their stupid restrictions. Till then PS4.

If this is saying they did a 180 on the "Check Online" policy, I'd buy an Xbox One. I'd like to own both, but this generation I'm seriously considering going with just the PS4 (Plus my PC).

Which is a shame because I prefer the exclusives on Xbox.

Edited by McKay, Jun 15 2013, 11:28am :

Luc2k said,
You mean 180.

Graimer said,

No... You should've let him figure it out himself..

It's more dramatic if you moonwalk away

McKay said,
If this is saying they did a 180 on the "Check Online" policy, I'd buy an Xbox One. I'd like to own both, but this generation I'm seriously considering going with just the PS4 (Plus my PC).

Which is a shame because I prefer the exclusives on Xbox.


I think people need to give some thought to WHY it does that... I don't so much have a problem with that requirement, understanding the why... But I feel that they should allow the disc being in the tray as an alternative method of authentication...

M_Lyons10 said,

I think people need to give some thought to WHY it does that... I don't so much have a problem with that requirement, understanding the why... But I feel that they should allow the disc being in the tray as an alternative method of authentication...

I understand why they're doing it, but for me there will be times where I'm sent places without internet, UK and overseas. That's why I might not get it.