Press image of Lumia 1520, first 6-inch Windows Phone, leaked

Microsoft plans to support large-screen Windows Phone devices with an update to the smartphone operating system later this year, and now a press image of the first device expected to come with the update has leaked.

Twitter's notorious and reliable smartphone source @evleaks posted an image of the upcoming Nokia Lumia 1520, a smartphone with a 6-inch screen boasting a 1080p resolution. Previously known by the internal codename "Bandit," the Lumia 1520 is expected to be formally revealed at a press event in New York on Sept. 26

According to leaked information of the device, the smartphone will feature Qualcomm's quad-core Snapdragon 800 processor and a 20-megapixel rear-facing camera. The phone's 6-inch screen will make it the largest Windows Phone device to date; Samsung's Ativ S currently takes that crown with a 4.8-inch screen.

Microsoft's upcoming Windows Phone firmware release, known as GDR3, is expected to bring minor additions such as a rotation lock, though the primary focus of the update will be support for 1080p screens. A screenshot of the Lumia 1520 released by @evleaks on Tuesday showed how the update will feature an additional two columns of Windows Phone's smallest tiles for 1080p smartphones, giving them a total of six columns.

Source: @evleaks

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Why are most smartphones so big you need a purse to carry the phone with you? This screen-size-war is ridiculous. I want to be able to put the phone in my pocket and take it with me when I'm on the move. If I can't it's no longer a mobile phone, it's just a phone. If the screen is >4" it's not small enough to be mobile imo.

I admit that I have no idea why people are getting 6 inch phones to begin with, but isn't one of the reasons that they want to have more information available at once?

These Windows Phones run the same hardware as Android phones, why had nobody tried to put Android on a Lumia yet?

McKay said,
These Windows Phones run the same hardware as Android phones, why had nobody tried to put Android on a Lumia yet?

Im sure someone out there has tried it is trying to do just that.Might be worth looking into, but don't most Android phones of the same class have better specs for the most part? And they're usually pretty bice, too.

That said, there's some ex-Nokia folks wanting to start a company for Nokia staffers who don't want to work for MS, want to keep the Nokia work/design ethic, and make great stuff for Android. I think they're calling themselves Newkia for now, so keep an eye on them.

Could be win/win. Honestly, the harder it is for bad companies to compete, the better. Anything that ups the bar is a plus to me

Nokia copying Samsung(Note 3)!

Disclaimer: I had to say it folks. Everytime another manufacturer releases something remotely close to the Lumia, the fanboys cry and complain, threatening law suits, because said manufacturer is copying their beloved Nokia Lumia.

JHBrown said,
Nokia copying Samsung(Note 3)!

Disclaimer: I had to say it folks. Everytime another manufacturer releases something remotely close to the Lumia, the fanboys cry and complain, threatening law suits, because said manufacturer is copying their beloved Nokia Lumia.


Well, Im a Nokia fan, but not a fanboy. Im glad to see it, although it seems to lack the stylus the Note has

Honestly,computers and tech didn't get this far along purely off of everyone being original. We're so much better off because people and companies copy, respin, improve, play "top this!", etc.

Im pretty sure neither AMD or Intel created the CPU, but I ain't complaining, either

Chikairo said,

Well, Im a Nokia fan, but not a fanboy. Im glad to see it, although it seems to lack the stylus the Note has

Honestly,computers and tech didn't get this far along purely off of everyone being original. We're so much better off because people and companies copy, respin, improve, play "top this!", etc.

Im pretty sure neither AMD or Intel created the CPU, but I ain't complaining, either

Chikairo,
I agree. I was just poking fun at the guys who seem to think everyone is copying the Lumia now. Truth is, I'd consider buying a bigger Lumia as long as it loses some weight.

JHBrown said,
Chikairo,
I agree. I was just poking fun at the guys who seem to think everyone is copying the Lumia now. Truth is, I'd consider buying a bigger Lumia as long as it loses some weight.
Gotcha. Lumias are quite nice, but I can totally understand OS and design preferences. I love the selection of tech we have - one size doesn't fit all, yeah?

Granted, my love of WP drives my poor brother crazy ^_^

The icons in this pic seems to be aligned in the middle unlike the one which had it on the side.. I guess that one was 8.1..

I think it looks pretty good. I wonder what the resolution is? How heavy is it as Lumias tend to run heavier vs what I am use too. What other great features other than a camera?

I mean, right now I have a Note II, what benefit would I attain if I switched?

Between the increasing size and power of phones and laptops, it would tend to make tablets more of a niche marketplace.

Screen size is too big for me. It won't fit in my track pants when I workout also I'm not very sure if i want to upgrade to another WP8 device after using L920. I went from S3 to L920 for the camera purely but with lack of features in WP8, I'm planning to switch.

Edit : What tile color is that? I don't have it on my 920 strangely.

Sraf said,
I believe the theme colour is Cobalt

Yes it is; unfortunately Nokia replaced the previous, darker, Blue with this lighter one.

Fritzly said,

Yes it is; unfortunately Nokia replaced the previous, darker, Blue with this lighter one.

Nope! I still have the dark cobalt. I can confirm it. Using L920 unbranded.

The size is about right, the hardware is good, the OS is getting better, the only thing missing is Google Maps, Google YouTube, Google Plus, Android Gallery, Google Now, Google Drive, Google Earth, and full encryption (maybe they have that) and face unlock.

Give it 10 more years.

john.smith_2084 said,
The size is about right, the hardware is good, the OS is getting better, the only thing missing is Google Maps, Google YouTube, Google Plus, Android Gallery, Google Now, Google Drive, Google Earth, and full encryption (maybe they have that) and face unlock.

Give it 10 more years.

All the missing Google apps, are Google's fault.. Microsoft can't really help Google deciding not to play nice with their platform.

So Google apps, full encryption (maybe they have that) and face unlock.

They have full encryption, and don't expect the google apps. Google is doing everything in their power to make WP unattractive. So really we're talking about face unlock. Isn't that the thing that can get fooled by a piece of paper?

Give it 10 years and maybe it'll be secure

greenwizard88 said,
So Google apps, full encryption (maybe they have that) and face unlock.

They have full encryption, and don't expect the google apps. Google is doing everything in their power to make WP unattractive. So really we're talking about face unlock. Isn't that the thing that can get fooled by a piece of paper?

Give it 10 years and maybe it'll be secure

Actually face unlock can't be fooled by paper, but maybe by video

Anyway, Microsoft is charging 10 to 15 dollars on every Android phone soled, to protect who build Android devices from "the Mob" Microsoft

Many want to see the Mob out of business.

Without Google services the phone is just a set of tiles on the screen, good luck with that

It certainly looks decent and has competitive specs but there needs to be a major update to the Windows Phone platform to make this phone truly competitive with Android. The last report I read puts that update somewhere in 2014, which is simply too far away.

Microsoft continues to be outpaced by its competitors.

At the rate things seem to be going at right now for WP development, by time a major update is finished testing, the next one is entering testing. GDR3 is supposed to come out later this year, and I'll bet you that the only thing that it keeping WP8.1 from coming out this year is carrier testing

Spicoli said,
And what features would you want in this update?

A notification centre; 4K support; a task manager; independent volume profiles for media / ringtone; a built-in flashlight function, etc.

I'm sure there's more but that's just what I remember from reading numerous reviews. Microsoft is the underdog here so it needs to do more to prove its worth in the market place.

theyarecomingforyou said,

A notification centre; 4K support; a task manager; independent volume profiles for media / ringtone; a built-in flashlight function, etc.

I'm sure there's more but that's just what I remember from reading numerous reviews. Microsoft is the underdog here so it needs to do more to prove its worth in the market place.

It's clear that you don't know what you're talking about.

jakem1 said,
It's clear that you don't know what you're talking about.

If I have erred then please correct me, as I am only going from what I've read on various forums and reviews, but comments like yours don't contribute anything to this discussion.

A notification centre; 4K support; a task manager; independent volume profiles for media / ringtone; a built-in flashlight function, etc.

1) Coming, rumored to possibly be in GDR3
2) Why?
3)WP doesn't work in such a way as to require one
4) Also possibly part of GDR3
5) Handy, but no deal breaker as there are about a billionty (hyperbole) apps for that

jakem1 said,

It's clear that you don't know what you're talking about.

Mind to support your statement in a more elaborated way? Separate volume controls is the most requested functionality in the forums, the choice to use a notification center is also highly requested. Personally I could add a decent calendar, at least at the same level of what we had in WM; a much improved mail app, if not matching Outlook, supporting some basic capabilities of the desktop app; full encryption.
Plenty of other suggestions here:
http://windowsphone.uservoice..../101801-feature-suggestions

Fritzly said,

Mind to support your statement in a more elaborated way?

Probably a reaction to the request for 4K support.

This is just getting STUPID! 6 inches is to big for a phone. I think 5 is the cut off. I like 4.7 though I really liked 4 inches. 4.7 is better for the web, but 4.0 felt like the perfect size, not to small not to large.

warwagon said,
This is just getting STUPID! 6 inches is to big for a phone. I think 5 is the cut off. I like 4.7 though I really liked 4 inches. 4.7 is better for the web, but 4.0 felt like the perfect size, not to small not to large.

I agree, 5 is the cut off for me. The ATIV S is great at 4.8 inches as it's bordering the cut off for me!!!

SK[ said,]People want these size phones though. Samsung proved this with the Note 1,2 and now 3!

True, but I think of them more as small form factor tablets with phone functions instead, the problem is that Windows Phone in it's current form isn't really suited to a display of 5+ inches.

Yeah, I think that is why GDR3 will be built into this phone, it brings along the bits to allow Windows Phone to properly work with this resolution.

So as long as apps make use of the space properly, it can be a competitor to the Galaxy Note line in the 'phablet' category.

It's slippery and difficult to grip and handle. I have a 920 as my work phone and I've dropped it more times that I can count. My HTC Titan II has a rubber coated body and it's brilliant, I've never had it slip once and I'm VERY confident gripping it.

92GTA said,
It's slippery and difficult to grip and handle.
material wise , metal or plastic is more slippery that poly carbonate, just saying but have you thought about why they use poly carbonate? have you watched the youtube video that the guy used a lumia phone as a hammer? Its tough and that's a plus. of course its a matter of taste but I have seen broken phones all over the place, never seen a broken nokia phone. by the way, Lumia 925 is an alternative design with plastic and metal. check that out

Edited by trojan_market, Sep 6 2013, 7:40pm :

Why? why? original metro design code was to use empty space and typography. I can see none of these in the interface. no matter how sexy the phone is. people will freak out seeing this tile mess.

So if this comes with GDR3 installed, I guess all that talk about notification center and revamped UI was BS?

AsherGZ said,
So if this comes with GDR3 installed, I guess all that talk about notification center and revamped UI was BS?

If GDR3 has a notification center you can't tell from the screen shot but as far as the revamped UI goes, I always believe that was going to be in Windows Phone 8.1 and not GDR3 which was meant as more of a hardware support update and not so much a feature update.

I really really hope the press shot doesn't show the start screen like that. Yes I know its customizable, but that image makes it look too cluttered and a mess, completely non "modern ui". Show it with the larger tiles like on Windows 8,.

I agree. but when all lumia phones look virtually the same from those angles (which is not a bad thing btw), you either want to differentiate it by making it look like the screen is huge, or risk people not seeing it any differently than half the phones they already have out

True on that they all look similar. Throw a hand on one of the press images so users can get a reference on size of the phone. I just think they risk loosing the true nature of the start screen. I mean yes, showing that images shows in theory how much you can cram on it, but it doesn't look good visually.

Tile grouping, spacers/headers and folders couldn't come any sooner. This is something I was hoping would be in GDR3 and hopefully on this. Would really help.

wv@gt said,
Tile grouping, spacers/headers and folders couldn't come any sooner. This is something I was hoping would be in GDR3 and hopefully on this. Would really help.

I honestly don't expect to see that till WP 8.1 and not GDR3. That's not to say you can't just upgrade from GDR3 to 8.1 and get the new UI and I expect the larger tile size that Windows 8.1 has as well.

j2006 said,
Nah it's only as busy as you make it :-)

Absolutely, this is the thing with WP that the screenshots don't relay properly to people that haven't given it any time. You make it how busy/quiet as you like it. You have loads of big tiles, or a few, you have loads of std icon style tiles if your an app junky that hates scrolling, or you don't, simples.

norseman said,
This is my new phone... Have to start saving.

It seems it does not have a hump in the back which, for me, is a big plus; I wonder if it will come with a pen and what kind of handwriting capabilities will have though.