Rumor: Nokia "EOS" Windows Phone coming with real PureView camera

While Nokia's current Windows Phone 8 flagship, the Nokia Lumia 920, technically includes a camera with "PureView" technology, it isn't really the same as the 41-megapixel behemoth found in the Nokia 808 PureView. Initially Windows Phone wasn't a platform suitable for facilitating such a high-megapixel sensor, which explains Nokia's choice of Belle for the device's OS, but this is set to change if sources from The Verge are to believed.

According to their unnamed sources, a brand new Windows Phone is in the works over at Nokia, said to be codenamed "EOS", that reportedly includes a "similar sensor" to the one found in the 808 PureView. This phone with a vastly improved camera would be the flagship of a new 2013 range, and will also apparently be built of aluminium (as opposed to the polycarbonate of the Lumia 920) utilizing a brand new style with squared edges.

This aluminium-bodied, real-PureView-toting device is not to be confused with an already rumored Lumia refresh that is said to also have an aluminium body; that device codenamed "Catwalk" is the second in this series, which will include a third mid-range device and possibly more further down the track. Nokia is also said to be working on a rumored Windows RT tablet that will also debut in 2013, but like with this EOS device, not much is known about Nokia's upcoming devices in the way of firm specs.

Update: This rumor is also being backed up by Italian smartphone guru Flavio via his Twitter account, which claims "project EOS" will indeed have a 41-megapixel camera.

Source: The Verge | WMPU

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I REALLY HATE these leaks as they take away from the ultimate impact and value of the release. This is secret stuff and core IP and whilst I know some leaks are purposeful most of these real world value differentiators that need to be kept away from the eyes of the competition.

It is effectively giving them an inside scoop so they can analyse and prepare a responsive action (if deemed needed).

I as a consumer am interested in hearing this but not at the cost of stock market and consumer interest. The only people who really benefit from this is the press who make $$ and the competition.

Damn you theVerge (hardly a fan of MS or Nokia!)

Carl Zeiss makes some REALLY great lenses. good move. I don't think a codename is a infringe able item?

I own a Carl Zeiss21mm Distagon lens and it is solid

Use of aluminum somehow shows that this device is heavy and they had to compensate by using a lighter material... I may be wrong

I would prefer Nokia to concentrate on battery life and other parameters that would enhanced their phones rather than pursuing the race for megapixels.

Whatever the tiny camera resolution, it remains a tiny lens.

TheCyberKnight said,
I would prefer Nokia to concentrate on battery life and other parameters that would enhanced their phones rather than pursuing the race for megapixels.

Whatever the tiny camera resolution, it remains a tiny lens.

Size doesn't denote capability. Look what an atom can do. Big things come in small packages. 41MP in a small lens is very innovative and the phone still cost the same or less than an iPhone or Android phone. Kinda makes you look at cost and value a bit...doesnt it?

jasonon said,
METAL BODY LUMIAS... this will shut up those android fan boys...
Actually the Apple fanboys are the ones who have a disgrace for plastic phones. Android fans have no problem with it.

Shows how much you know!

It might be lighter, but I really doubt that they will have a removable battery, like the 808 did. For better or worse, Nokia seems to be on a unibody kick.

Just for comparison though:

http://www.nokia.com/us-en/pro...te=85048&operation=show

The current 808 is 16 grams lighter, but I believe that the battery is significantly smaller than the Lumia 920's, and it has a 4" screen as opposed to a 4.5" one. If they make another "small" phone, then it could come in lighter again, and personally I prefer phones no bigger than the Lumia 920, which just borders on being too large for me.

pickypg said,
The current 808 is 16 grams lighter, but I believe that the battery is significantly smaller than the Lumia 920's, and it has a 4" screen as opposed to a 4.5" one. If they make another "small" phone, then it could come in lighter again, and personally I prefer phones no bigger than the Lumia 920, which just borders on being too large for me.

The Lumia 920 weighs 185g, which is considerably more than the HTC One X at 130g or the Samsung Galaxy S3 at 133g - both of which have bigger screens. Even the Lumia 808 is pretty heavy. The camera is important to me but it shouldn't make the phone too heavy, though being slightly heavy isn't a dealbreaker for me.

As for the removable battery, you're probably right but I'm strongly opposed to non-removable batteries. I like being able to carry around replacement batteries (which is really handy when I forget to recharge my phone or don't have access to a charger for a long period) and when I go to the cinema I like to take out my battery to prevent any possibility of my phone making any noise.

theyarecomingforyou said,
though being slightly heavy isn't a dealbreaker for me.

As an owner of a Lumia 920, I must say that I really have never been bothered by the phone's heft. I actually think it has made me notice that I was dropping it once, somewhat subconsciously. However, to each their own.

theyarecomingforyou said,
I like to take out my battery to prevent any possibility of my phone making any noise.

I miss being able to take out the battery from my phone to fix the occasional lockup. I have had an iPhone 4 and Lumia 900 lock up on me in a way that required me to figure out the hard reboot buttons (sleep/power and home button on the iPhone, and sleep/power and the camera button on WP). Fortunately they're easy to guess, but it's distressing when you don't know them already. Having had the Samsung Focus for a short while (three of them that broke), and a Samsung Focus S (worked nicely), I do kind of miss the removable battery, but I also like the sturdiness of unibody designs.

I just hope L920 still receives camera fixes and other great stuff via software , as I read in an interview that they are planning to work more on software end than hardware now

Nokia has been good with supporting all it's Lumina devices when it comes to software. The 920 will be getting updates from them and Microsoft into 2014 I'm sure.

Nokia has a great track record of continuing to support their devices long after they are launched, this was true even in Symbian days (5800XM received something like 15 updates in its lifetime over 3 years).

Yeah Nokia supports their devices far longer than most manufacturers. That's half the reason I got so excited to see them back with the launch of WP7. Not only do they make amazing (and unique) hardware, they don't let their devices get stale by not updating the software on them as well. My last Nokia phone before my Lumia was an N95 8GB - I couldn't even count how many updates they kept releasing YEARS after the damn thing was released. Don't think I'll be buying a phone from another manufacturer for a while unless they go out of business or something which I highly doubt....

If true I really hope it comes with a xenon flash like the 808, I was going to pickup the 808 but its price has spiked to around £500 in the UK.

The Nokia 808 has an LED flash and a Xenon flash.
So you can take videos with the LED and use the LED as a flashlight (hold lock key for 2-3 seconds to activate).
You can also use the Xenon flash for photos!