Rumor: Two employees fired over Windows 8 leaks

When a build of Windows 8 leaks, most enthusiasts are overwhelmed at getting their hands on the build that was supposed to remain inside the walls of Microsoft. But to get that information out, an employee must leak the information, putting their job on the line.

It is being reported over at MDL and across the web that two employees from Microsoft were fired over the leaks. Forum user canouna reported that two employees, one from Russia and the other from Redmond, have both been fired from the company for their participation in the leaks of Windows 8.

Windows 8 has been leaked in three different builds, 7850, 7955 and 7959. If Microsoft did fire two employees over the leaks, it shows that Microsoft is not only serious about protecting its property, but is also using the removal of the employees as a deterrent to prevent future leaks.

But despite all of this, there are rumors that build 7971 is out in the wild. At this time, Neowin cannot confirm the authenticity of these rumors.

Windows 8 is far off from public availability and it is rumored that a public beta may be announced at PDC later this year. It is expected that Microsoft will launch Windows 8 in late 2012 with the latest rumors suggesting that retail availability will happen in early 2013.

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Leaking the builds is bad for M$. Samsung might get their hands on it and demand more.

But seriously, exposed builds means ppl will see what they have up their sleeves. Do you continue to pay to watch a show, even when you know exactly what will happen? Or wouldn't you add some of the features or changes in W8, in your OS if you knew you could get away with it? The tech industry is a ruthless, survival of the fittest industry like any other business, capitalistic market.

Well good job to those two, may their legacy live on and more employees step up to the plate to provide us with delicious leaks!

Can't say I feel sorry for them. There's clear warnings on the Windows 8 desktop about leaking, and MS even had the decency to warn politely when doing so.

Trueblue711 said,
Can't say I feel sorry for them. There's clear warnings on the Windows 8 desktop about leaking, and MS even had the decency to warn politely when doing so.

I take it you have never done something wrong and later regretted it .

neufuse said,

sounds more like a setup... that guy posted the comment, waiting for tom to catch on, removed it waited then said tom made up BS... just to start a problem


No, he's just upset that I posted it.

they where idiots for leaking it to start with, a lot of the windows builds are traceable with ID's embedded into the builds that point to who the build was built for

I don't see canouna's post about this any where. The link you linked to is invalid. Not there.

Anyone?

How the hell is canouna anyways. That's like me saying "20 apple employees fired for eating apples". And everyone believing it.

How the hell is this news?

dagamer34 said,

Because people would complain about unfinished features.

exactly... they are complaining about the leaks and "im going to get a mac..... im stalling linux" bla bla crap. when it still even says "windows 7" and everyone knows its a milestone and alot of features are hidden. but still people complain and say "i dont like it" "it looks bad" "unfinished" "i hope microsoft make it better" so if that happens with something its not even public, imagine when its public, microsoft getting feedback for how my driver sound doesn't install (it happened in the computer i tested pre-m3) and alot of issues you may have, like if it was a beta or rc.

dagamer34 said,

Because people would complain about unfinished features.

Then why can't they put a disclaimer to all who download it that it's unfinished...DUH.

StevenMalone77 said,

Then why can't they put a disclaimer to all who download it that it's unfinished...DUH.

Because a disclaimer doesn't fix your reputation.

yowan said,
Why can't they make their builds public?

If people see features in test builds that don't make it to the final product, people will criticize it even though those features were never promised.

Trueblue711 said,

If people see features in test builds that don't make it to the final product, people will criticize it even though those features were never promised.

Who are all these so called people? The .00000001% of windows users like us who actually install this stuff? Come on now.

yowan said,
Why can't they make their builds public?

Why should they? This is a commercial product with high monetary value, they'd give away all their upcoming features to their competitors and damage their public image. Also, why would they waste their time? They don't want feedback until the stuff they want feedback on is actually done, so it has no benefit to them to do so.

Some people do get paid for it...

It's like selling a story to the tabloids. But these websites like Wzor or CNet pay pennies for the first leaks.

texasghost said,
Some people do get paid for it...

It's like selling a story to the tabloids. But these websites like Wzor or CNet pay pennies for the first leaks.

Think it's a little more than penny's pal.

Lol... Look at all these apple fanboys xD

In any case, I doubt these are true, and even if they are, its jsut a deterant. Hell, for all we know Its just one of Microsofts tricks.

xbamaris said,
Hell, for all we know Its just one of Microsofts tricks.

I also would like to believe that Microsoft toy with the lives of its employess to play tricks.

xbamaris said,
Hell, for all we know Its just one of Microsofts tricks.

I also would like to believe that Microsoft toy with the lives of its employess to play tricks.

dotf said,

I also would like to believe that Microsoft toy with the lives of its employess to play tricks.

I meant that they were faking some story about people getting fired to prevent the leaks.

It just starts out small, they might just wanted to impress there friends. And it just goes downhill from there, I first thought why MS would allow so many leaks of there property. But I'm glad they wern't looking the other way.

Leaking the OS is just wrong and I'm right with Microsoft on this one. I still think 2013 is at least a year too early for releasing windows 8.

sava700 said,
Leaking the OS is just wrong and I'm right with Microsoft on this one. I still think 2013 is at least a year too early for releasing windows 8.

Although surprising, Windows 7 will be 3 years old next year, which is the life span of MS OSes (Except Vista). So, I think it will be about right to expect it's release on 2013.

Jose_49 said,

Although surprising, Windows 7 will be 3 years old next year, which is the life span of MS OSes (Except Vista). So, I think it will be about right to expect it's release on 2013.

Vista RTM: Nov 8, 2006
7 RTM: July 22, 2009

7 was released to manufacturing 2 years, 8 months, and 14 days after Vista. Nearly 3 years despite it being a minor upgrade, so I don't know where the "except Vista" comes from.

FrozenEclipse said,

7 was released to manufacturing 2 years, 8 months, and 14 days after Vista. Nearly 3 years despite it being a minor upgrade, so I don't know where the "except Vista" comes from.
I think he's referring to the fact that Vista took over 5 years to be released

Jose_49 said,
Thanks Rudy, was about to say that .

Yeah. I was referring the movement from XP to Vista.

But then again NT4 -> Windows was almost 5 years as well, so it was hardly something new but then again Windows 2000 was a massive improvement and was polished from day one.

no-sweat said,
Dunno why people risk their job to leak something they don't get credit or $ for... weird.
I always thought that.

no-sweat said,
Dunno why people risk their job to leak something they don't get credit or $ for... weird.

Maybe they get $$ for it, afterall, a leak can increase wbepage views, which in turn may increase add revenue to a site...

sviola said,

Maybe they get $ for it, afterall, a leak can increase wbepage views, which in turn may increase add revenue to a site...

im pretty sure their salary at microsoft far exceeds what they would get paid in terms of leaking it

canknee said,
im pretty sure their salary at microsoft far exceeds what they would get paid in terms of leaking it

Not as some junior level lackey. Do you think Microsoft pays its' employees any better than the rest of the tech industry? I doubt it. They pay comparable to the industry, in whichever countries they operate. You can make more in a month of Ad revenue than microsoft pays in a quarter.

I met a microsoft technical evangelist who was sad that his friend created plentyoffish.com to learn C# and wound up making big bank from google on a monthly basis, through ads.

Yeah, even if this is not true, it will definitely scare those who might have thought about leaking. I think it will have that effect above everything, but we'll still see leaks I'm sure.

Rudy said,
Not really surprising, MS seems to be working a lot harder than usual at preventing leaks

When you hear about it being "their riskiest bet yet", theres got to be something they are keeping quiet for a reason. Perhaps something that hasn't been realised yet by us.

Alansonit said,

When you hear about it being "their riskiest bet yet", theres got to be something they are keeping quiet for a reason. Perhaps something that hasn't been realised yet by us.

Yeah, I don't see anything in the leaks that's "risky" yet. It all looks like good but safe updates. I'm thinking it's the UI that's the secret - there's no way a slight Metro-fication of Aero or a couple of immersive apps can be called risky. Can't wait to see it, whatever it is

CalumCookable said,
Yeah, I don't see anything in the leaks that's "risky" yet. It all looks like good but safe updates. I'm thinking it's the UI that's the secret - there's no way a slight Metro-fication of Aero or a couple of immersive apps can be called risky. Can't wait to see it, whatever it is

I disagree. The fact that the OS will work on different devices is a very risky move, because if no one buys Windows 8 mobiles and tablets or whatever, then they've wasted millions.

You could be right, though!

Meph said,

I disagree. The fact that the OS will work on different devices is a very risky move, because if no one buys Windows 8 mobiles and tablets or whatever, then they've wasted millions.

What is this I don't even... How is that any different than the past decade? Windows XP was on desktops and laptops, Windows Vista was on desktops, laptops and was optimized for tablets. Windows 7 the same but better... I hope you're not saying that the same Windows 8 on your desktop or laptop or netbook will be the same as on your phone... Because that's ridiculous.

Meph said,

I disagree. The fact that the OS will work on different devices is a very risky move, because if no one buys Windows 8 mobiles and tablets or whatever, then they've wasted millions.

You could be right, though!

What do you mean no one would buy Windows 8 Mobiles and Tablets? Windows is a defacto standard, there are 1.2 billion Windows users, someone is bound to upgrade, corporations with volume license contracts probably already eligible for the upgrade. Microsoft has 80,000 PC's, I am sure they will upgrade. I just can't understand that part about no will buy it.

Mr. Dee said,
I just can't understand that part about no will buy it.

Windows 8 will replace Windows 7 AND Windows Phone 7.5

The part that Meph is talking about nobody buying are those form factors, or the ARMs race, as I've just coined it. What would be the point in unifying the Windows OS across all devices if no one wants the devices which have never seen the full power of a Windows OS. If no one buys windows 8 phones and windows 8 tablets, it would be a waste.

Another risky bet is opening up code that has been previously untouched since Win NT3.5. The reason that code now has to be modified is to shim in new UI elements for the aforementioned form factors.

dotf said,

Windows 8 will replace Windows 7 AND Windows Phone 7.5

The part that Meph is talking about nobody buying are those form factors, or the ARMs race, as I've just coined it. What would be the point in unifying the Windows OS across all devices if no one wants the devices which have never seen the full power of a Windows OS. If no one buys windows 8 phones and windows 8 tablets, it would be a waste.

Another risky bet is opening up code that has been previously untouched since Win NT3.5. The reason that code now has to be modified is to shim in new UI elements for the aforementioned form factors.

Dude what the hell is windows 7.5?

Alansonit said,

When you hear about it being "their riskiest bet yet", theres got to be something they are keeping quiet for a reason. Perhaps something that hasn't been realised yet by us.

The Minority Report style gesture interaction.

StevenMalone77 said,
Dude what the hell is windows 7.5?

Windows Phone 7.5 is the name that some people are giving to Windows Phone 'Mango'.

For the record, Microsoft has already talked about unifying the platforms - that was the whole purpose of winmin (along with making Windows easier to maintain and develop going forward).