Rumor: Windows Phone 7 "Tango" to be minor update

Microsoft is getting ready to release its major "Mango" update for Windows Phone 7. The update is scheduled to launch alongside a new batch of smartphones later this fall from various smartphone makers that will have the Mango update powering the devices. However, there have been rumors popping up in the last couple of months of yet another upcoming update to the operating system - code named "Tango". Little is known about this update but ZDNet is now reporting more info about Tango via unnamed sources.

The article claims that the Tango update could in fact be split into two such updates to the OS. The article adds that both are supposed to be released sometime before Windows Phone 8, code named "Apollo". This will be the next major version of the Windows Phone OS that's currently believed to be scheduled to launch in late 2012. As far as Tango is concerned, the article claims, again via unnamed sources, that Tango could be a version of the OS that's being made for cheaper versions of Windows Phone devices, perhaps targeting the large Asian market.

The same story also links the Tango update to Nokia's launch of its Windows Phone 7 smartphones. It's not clear what they might have in common since the first Nokia phones with Windows Phone 7 are expected to come out using the Mango version of the OS.

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Just out of curiosity,. does anyone know how long after they RTM do these updates show up on the "Where's my update" site? This'll be the first update I'll be part of getting... lol

I see Microsoft are recycling codenames again. Apollo was the code name for Windows CE 2.01 Auto PC 1.0.

This makes for a lot of sense, especially if WP is to be taken seriously; they have to keep the updates and evolution coming.

If my omnia 7 is not upgradeable to "wp8" then I will go back to android. I have already been disappointed in MS/3UK as they have stopped selling new omnia 7 handsets. My girlfriend has an iPhone 3g on 3UK and she wants a wp7 handset in October. Oh well.

WP7 said,
If my omnia 7 is not upgradeable to "wp8" then I will go back to android. I have already been disappointed in MS/3UK as they have stopped selling new omnia 7 handsets. My girlfriend has an iPhone 3g on 3UK and she wants a wp7 handset in October. Oh well.

That seems rather odd, since Android is kind of well known for their upgrading issues... :?

Regardless though, I would expect WP7 devices to be upgradable to WP8, as Microsoft is trying to gain market share and it's easier to support one OS than two... Unless there is a technical reason WP8 cannot be supported on these current devices.

As for your girlfriend, there should be a lot of WP7 devices in the fall with Mango. Perhaps she can get one of those.

M_Lyons10 said,

That seems rather odd, since Android is kind of well known for their upgrading issues... :?

Regardless though, I would expect WP7 devices to be upgradable to WP8, as Microsoft is trying to gain market share and it's easier to support one OS than two... Unless there is a technical reason WP8 cannot be supported on these current devices.

As for your girlfriend, there should be a lot of WP7 devices in the fall with Mango. Perhaps she can get one of those.

Yeah hope so...Its a shame we can't upgrade mid-contract even for a cost (say, £100 fee) cause I want a new mango handset, tho my contract ends in 2012

M_Lyons10 said,

That seems rather odd, since Android is kind of well known for their upgrading issues... :?

Regardless though, I would expect WP7 devices to be upgradable to WP8, as Microsoft is trying to gain market share and it's easier to support one OS than two... Unless there is a technical reason WP8 cannot be supported on these current devices.

As for your girlfriend, there should be a lot of WP7 devices in the fall with Mango. Perhaps she can get one of those.

Android phones (at least most of them like the G1, Hero) can still be upgraded to Gingerbread. That's the difference, developers have the tools to hack these Android OS's to these unsupported devices. WP7 doesn't.

MFH said,
So Apollo == WP8? Anyone wanna bet whether or not WP7 will be upgradeable?

Well if Apollo will sill be based on CE 7 or CE8 it should be, technically speaking, possible to upgrade; if it will be based on W8 it will not. If the latter we will probably see smartphone running ARM processors.

Bottom line all the above are just speculations.......

Fritzly said,

Well if Apollo will sill be based on CE 7 or CE8 it should be, technically speaking, possible to upgrade; if it will be based on W8 it will not. If the latter we will probably see smartphone running ARM processors.

1. I'd say CE7 (if it stays on CE) as it's currently still based on CE6 (plus a few things from CE7)
2. The phones are already based on ARM

MFH said,

1. I'd say CE7 (if it stays on CE) as it's currently still based on CE6 (plus a few things from CE7)
2. The phones are already based on ARM

Technically speaking it is a CE6/CE7 hybrid rather than fully CE6 or CE7 - I wouldn't be surprised if they went straight to CE7 as to avoiding having to maintain a separate special branch.

MFH said,
So Apollo == WP8? Anyone wanna bet whether or not WP7 will be upgradeable?

WP7 to WP8 upgrades should be possible software wise, the real question is will the first WP7 phones out now be able to get it or not? Or will it just be the 2nd wave of "mango" phones? Will it be free like mango or will it have a fee?

I somehow bet that, and as a way to sidestep carriers, MS could sell Apollo/WP8 upgrades for say, $10-$15 or so but without support and so on. A sorta upgrade at your own risk and void your carrier warranty type deal.

MFH said,
So Apollo == WP8? Anyone wanna bet whether or not WP7 will be upgradeable?

Actually, I saw an interview of Joe Belfiore, and he explicitly said that the goal behind Windows Phone is to upgrade the original RTM hardware(1GHz & 256MB RAM) for as long as possible, and atleast till the next major update.


GP007 said,
Will it be free like mango or will it have a fee?


Microsoft has never charged on an upgrades. So it is quite unlikely.

Plus Microsoft is far behind Apple and Android, in terms of user market share. Their competitors have NEVER charged for an upgrade, it is impossible that Microsoft would. They need to sell this, and charging for an upgrade is is certainly not a good idea.
Plus Microsoft is very popular for supporting their OS and softwares for an unusally long time.
So I think that a charge for an upgrade is highly ~impossible.

MFH said,

1. I'd say CE7 (if it stays on CE) as it's currently still based on CE6 (plus a few things from CE7)
2. The phones are already based on ARM

You are right; I meant intel Atom.

FMH said,

Actually, I saw an interview of Joe Belfiore, and he explicitly said that the goal behind Windows Phone is to upgrade the original RTM hardware(1GHz & 256MB RAM) for as long as possible, and atleast till the next major update.

Microsoft has never charged on an upgrades. So it is quite unlikely.

Plus Microsoft is far behind Apple and Android, in terms of user market share. Their competitors have NEVER charged for an upgrade, it is impossible that Microsoft would. They need to sell this, and charging for an upgrade is is certainly not a good idea.
Plus Microsoft is very popular for supporting their OS and softwares for an unusally long time.
So I think that a charge for an upgrade is highly ~impossible.

I do not see MS as the entity which could try to hamper an upgrade from WP7 to "Apollo"............ OEM and Carriers are a different story though.............

Fritzly said,

I do not see MS as the entity which could try to hamper an upgrade from WP7 to "Apollo"............ OEM and Carriers are a different story though.............

Yeah, that's my concern as well. I'm really hoping that updates don't prove an issue. Apple is able to control updates to the iPhone, so I'm hoping Microsoft can do the same. Honestly, there's no reason the carriers should be able to block updates like that...

Can I get the Nokia Mango phone in my hands before Halloween please? I want orange tiles on a black background.

Hopefully "Tango" will be an update after "Mango" that will provide Arabic keyboard support for the Windows Phone.

Apollo should be huge, at least from a technological point of view (Menlo). It's logical that the update preceding it wouldn't be as big as Mango is.

Mango....Tango... Apollo ????

i guess Apollo doesn't seem to fit need something like mm Sango or Bango hhh

any way we need Mango first gimme gimme

DaRkMaDnEsS said,
Mango....Tango... Apollo ????

i guess Apollo doesn't seem to fit need something like mm Sango or Bango hhh

any way we need Mango first gimme gimme

But you forget NoDo

The trend in Microsoft Phone's code-naming is, that all these names end with an 'o'.
NoDo
Mango
Tango
Appolo.

But since Appolo is Windows Phone 8, that is a major update, we may see it's minor updates, rhyme more with Appolo, e.g Mappolo, Dappolo etc.

FMH said,
The trend in Microsoft Phone's code-naming is, that all these names end with an 'o'.
NoDo
Mango
Tango
Appolo.

But since Appolo is Windows Phone 8, that is a major update, we may see it's minor updates, rhyme more with Appolo, e.g Mappolo, Dappolo etc.

Oddly enough NoDo is actually No Donuts, and doesn't end with an o at all.

It was later shortened to NoDo by the press first if I'm not mistaken.

Mango & Tango I can't deny end with the o.

The naming of Apollo as the code name for WP8 though is pretty self explanatory if you think about it

Mountain Dew said,

Oddly enough NoDo is actually No Donuts, and doesn't end with an o at all.

It was later shortened to NoDo by the press first if I'm not mistaken.

Mango & Tango I can't deny end with the o.

The naming of Apollo as the code name for WP8 though is pretty self explanatory if you think about it

Mary Jo Foley, of ZDnet, was the first person to report the code-names NoDo and Mango. It was called NoDo inside Microsoft, and later a Microsoft exec explained the story behind "NoDo". Their was a WP7 meeting, and somebody was asked to bring donuts. He forgot, and hence he was labeled "No Donuts" jokingly. And then shortened to NoDo!

And what relation are you talking about between Appolo and WP8? Appolo was the name of the vehicle for first manned mission to the moon, if I remember correctly. Didn't got that one.

FMH said,
Mary Jo Foley, of ZDnet, was the first person to report the code-names NoDo and Mango. It was called NoDo inside Microsoft, and later a Microsoft exec explained the story behind "NoDo". Their was a WP7 meeting, and somebody was asked to bring donuts. He forgot, and hence he was labeled "No Donuts" jokingly. And then shortened to NoDo!

And what relation are you talking about between Appolo and WP8? Appolo was the name of the vehicle for first manned mission to the moon, if I remember correctly. Didn't got that one.

In Greek, and also ancient Roman, mithology Apollo is the God of arts, music, medicine; he was also the deity inspiring the Delphic oracle. He also became the Sun God.
Said that i do not see many similarities with donuts and tango other than the same, final vowel. :-)

FMH said,
Mary Jo Foley, of ZDnet, was the first person to report the code-names NoDo and Mango. It was called NoDo inside Microsoft, and later a Microsoft exec explained the story behind "NoDo". Their was a WP7 meeting, and somebody was asked to bring donuts. He forgot, and hence he was labeled "No Donuts" jokingly. And then shortened to NoDo!

And what relation are you talking about between Appolo and WP8? Appolo was the name of the vehicle for first manned mission to the moon, if I remember correctly. Didn't got that one.

Apollo 8 was the first human spaceflight to leave Earth orbit; the first to be captured by and escape from the gravitational field of another celestial body; and the first crewed voyage to return to Earth from another celestial body - Earth's Moon. The three-man crew of mission Commander Frank Borman, Command Module Pilot James Lovell, and Lunar Module Pilot William Anders became the first humans to travel beyond low Earth orbit, the first to see Earth as a whole planet, and then the first to directly see the far side of the Moon. The 1968 mission, the first manned launch of a Saturn V rocket, was also the first manned launch from the John F. Kennedy Space Center, Florida, located adjacent to Cape Canaveral.

So it's only fitting that Windows Phone 8 would be called Apollo.

Edited by Mountain Dew, Aug 10 2011, 7:08pm :

My bet is that Tango will be small like NoDo was, Apollo is supposed to be the big fall update for next year, which is in line with how and when they have both said they would update the phone, and (how&when) it has been historically

I think it will be more like the "Feb" update I believe it was... NoDo at least did some good changes for WP7 to get it off the ground... So far all I'm seeing is padding to get ready for Mango...