Rumour: iOS 4.3 in mid-December, will add app subscriptions

After pushing the iOS 4.2.1 update out the door earlier this week, Apple has reportedly moved on to the next version of their mobile operating system.

Macstories reports that Apple is aiming to release iOS 4.3 on December 13th. According to a ''reliable source'', the Mac maker had already been planning for an iOS update release in mid-December while version 4.2.1 was in development.

It is reportedly unclear what, if any, impact multiple delays to the release of iOS 4.2.1 will have on the iOS 4.3 update. The Macstories source also reported that 4.3 will address user complaints with the much-hyped AirPlay feature and third-party apps such as Hulu and Netflix.

But the show-stopping feature of the next update, according to Macstories, will be app subscriptions, giving developers and publishers the ability to charge for daily, weekly, monthly or yearly updates or editions of their apps. It has been pointed out that such a feature would be needed to support ''The Daily'' a rumoured ''iPad newspaper'' being cooked up by Apple and Murdoch's News Corp.

Mr Murdoch has confirmed The Daily's existance, but offered no further details. The Daily would reportedly cost $0.99 per new edition.

Daring Fireball's John Gruber has also weighed in on the rumours, stating that Apple will hold a press event announcing the update around December 9, though the event could be pushed back to the following Tuesday. He believed that app subscriptions would be the focus of the event.

''My understanding is that this initiative is going to launch with a press event, with Murdoch (and perhaps other newspaper and magazine executives) joining Steve Jobs on stage. This is not going to be a quiet launch, to say the least,'' he said.

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I wouldnt pay daily for the news or magazine at all. Why pay for the crap when you can get it online for free and legal. There are so many free/legit news sites out there that report the same info.

So don't. Millions of other people do still pay for a newspaper/magazine subscription... That's why it's good to have the option. It's also not always about what's being reported but how and in what depth that still make people buy newspapers and magazines.

.Neo said,
So don't. Millions of other people do still pay for a newspaper/magazine subscription... That's why it's good to have the option. It's also not always about what's being reported but how and in what depth that still make people buy newspapers and magazines.

Yea, a year long magazine sub is 30-40. If they charge $1 a day to get that on your phone, not worth it. And again, with all the news available for free "tv, radio, internet, free publications, its not really worth paying for news or even entertainment magazines.

I find if funny that Apple is coming out with "The Daily" around the same time as this. Just more money Apple wants.

Nowhere does the article say companies are forced to use the daily option. It's simply one option out of many. Nowhere does the article say that $0,99 is the lowest possible daily price point either. Whether it's worth it or not is entirely up to individual persons. It might not be worth it to you, others are likely to feel different.

Next to that, Apple is a commercial company. They aren't non-profit, nor are they a personal friend of yours. Of course they want to make more money off you. It shouldn't come as a shock that it's pretty much the goal of every company out there.

.Neo said,
Nowhere does the article say companies are forced to use the daily option. It's simply one option out of many. Nowhere does the article say that $0,99 is the lowest possible daily price point either. Whether it's worth it or not is entirely up to individual persons. It might not be worth it to you, others are likely to feel different.

Yes, because I said users will be forced to use the daily option..../s And I never said that .99 was the lowest price...I was using what was said in the article.

Another press event huh. Seems like Apple has one every month. But hey, they have all that cash so they can use it foolishly...

I can see charging an update after a year like MOST PC apps do, or when a major update or new version gets released. But not every month and daily is just stupid and you know people are going to abuse this to get more $.

Apple users, at least the devoted ones, will eat this up and pay daily like good little people doing what the phone/app tells them to do. Makes me want to develop a few silly apps just to take advantage of this...haha

Daily, weekly or monthly paid app updates make perfect sense if you're going to bring a newspaper or magazine to iOS.

.Neo said,
Daily, weekly or monthly paid app updates make perfect sense if you're going to bring a newspaper or magazine to iOS.

Hope is only for newspaper or magazine and not for any regular app.

techbeck said,
Another press event huh. Seems like Apple has one every month. But hey, they have all that cash so they can use it foolishly...

And? So what? They like to generate hype about their products *gasp* *shock* *horror*. It is almost as if they are in the business of making money. I know, it is overly complicated and hard for some of you to grasp.

I can see charging an update after a year like MOST PC apps do, or when a major update or new version gets released. But not every month and daily is just stupid and you know people are going to abuse this to get more $.

Apple is just catering to what the developers are asking for. Some developers who put a lot of effort into keeping their apps regularly updated with new features want a way to generate more money to keep them in business.

Apple users, at least the devoted ones, will eat this up and pay daily like good little people doing what the phone/app tells them to do. Makes me want to develop a few silly apps just to take advantage of this...haha

Go for it dude.

Quattrone said,

Hope is only for newspaper or magazine and not for any regular app.

Yeah, we'll have to wait and see if this will only be possible for a certain segment of the apps available.

Shadrack said,

And? So what? They like to generate hype about their products *gasp* *shock* *horror*. It is almost as if they are in the business of making money. I know, it is overly complicated and hard for some of you to grasp.

Its not hard for me to grasp so watch who you are telling that to. I am entitled to my opinion like you are and if you dont like my comment, then dont reply to me. I dont need your rude comments as I have given you none. The first reply to this article said the same thing about the press conference that I did but yet, you only comment on mine. Funny.

techbeck said,
if you dont like my comment, then dont reply to me.

In case you haven't noticed things don't work that way on a public forum. People will respond to you, especially when they don't like your comments. If you don't like people replying to what you say, simply don't post in the first place.
techbeck said,
I dont need your rude comments as I have given you none.

Actually, you are rude in your comments as there's practically always some form of insult addressed to Mac users in them.

.Neo said,

In case you haven't noticed things don't work that way on a public forum. People will respond to you, especially when they don't like your comments. If you don't like people replying to what you say, simply don't post in the first place.

Whatever, I was replying to the OP and people make it a point to reply only to me when many others say the same thing.


Actually, you are rude in your comments as there's practically always some form of insult addressed to Mac users in them.

If people get all emotional and defensive on what I say towards APPLE, then thats not my problem. People attack ME first and I just defend myself and thats when I give rude towards them. And I was not even talking to you but AGAIN you made a point to go after me like you have dont in other threads.

Also, I know your reply next will be " I have seen you do this over and over and over again" So before you do, show proof before you do and then I may agree with you. I dont know about anyone else, but I cannot keep track of every post I make on here.

techbeck said,
Whatever, I was replying to the OP and people make it a point to reply only to me when many others say the same thing.

Does that honestly surprise you considering your past behavior on this forum? Apparently you build up a reputation and people are responding to that. I have no real other explanation.
techbeck said,
If people get all emotional and defensive on what I say towards APPLE, then thats not my problem. People attack ME first and I just defend myself and thats when I give rude towards them.

And I was not even talking to you but AGAIN you made a point to go after me like you have dont in other threads.


There's absolutely nothing wrong with being critical towards Apple. What greatly annoys people is that you're going after Mac users personally and basically calling them stupid for mindlessly following everything Apple holds in front of them (last paragraph of your first post):

"Apple users, at least the devoted ones, will eat this up and pay daily like good little people doing what the phone/app tells them to do."

Here you once again threw out the first punch and you can't really blame people for responding to that. If you don't understand that, I'm sorry.

.Neo said,

Does that honestly surprise you considering your past behavior on this forum? Apparently you build up a reputation and people are responding to that. I have no real other explanation.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being critical towards Apple. What greatly annoys people is that you're going after Mac users personally and basically calling them stupid for mindlessly following everything Apple holds in front of them (last paragraph of your first post):

"Apple users, at least the devoted ones, will eat this up and pay daily like good little people doing what the phone/app tells them to do."

Here you once again threw out the first punch and you can't really blame people for responding to that. If you don't understand that, I'm sorry.

And again you fail. I didnt single anyone out. If you took offense, or anyone else for that matter, then maybe you need to grow thicker skin. If you are going to nit pick on me saying "apple users" then you got real problems. I never said they were stupid, but rather Apple taking advantage of devoted.

A lot of assumptions there dude so try again. And if you dont see that, then I am sorry.

And I admit I used to call people fanboys a long time ago...and that would be singling someone out. But I have not used that term in a LONG time or went after a single person...just Apple.

But anyway, I will make sure to cater to your special needs from now on.

.Neo said,

Does that honestly surprise you considering your past behavior on this forum? Apparently you build up a reputation and people are responding to that. I have no real other explanation.

So that makes it right for you and others to break Neowin rules, single someone out, and go after them....haha, real mature justifying going after someone. So I wont respond to any more of your posts, or others, that come after me. Thankfully there are many other level headed mature people here.

So take care.

techbeck said,
And again you fail. I didnt single anyone out. If you took offense, or anyone else for that matter, then maybe you need to grow thicker skin. If you are going to nit pick on me saying "apple users" then you got real problems. I never said they were stupid, but rather Apple taking advantage of devoted.

Haha trust me, I don't take offense at all. You're asking yourself why people single you out the way they do, I'm giving you a possible explanation based on the comments you get. Very calmly at that. What you choose to do with that information is up to you.

techbeck said,
A lot of assumptions there dude so try again. And if you dont see that, then I am sorry.

Then I once again suggest you rephrase your comments. But hey, you won't do that so people will keep on coming after you as you so put it yourself. It's your own choice.
techbeck said,
But anyway, I will make sure to cater to your special needs from now on.

Please don't on my account alone. You're turning this into a specific problem you have with me, when really it isn't. In this thread I have no issue with you at all, I'm simply pointing out why people respond to you the way they do. You calling Mac users morons basically every single chance you get doesn't affect me on a personal level at all.

techbeck said,
So that makes it right for you and others to break Neowin rules, single someone out, and go after them....haha, real mature justifying going after someone.

Again, I'm not going after you at all (bit of paranoia going on there?). You're clearly wondering why people respond to you the way they do and I'm giving you a possible explanation as to why. Again, it's totally up to you whether or not you do something with that information.

I wish they would eliminate the checkerboard in Safari, the iPhone 4 has more than enough power and RAM to make it happen, no?

now this will be an unforgettable event, in the way that you wont forget it as its something that takes your money monthly

neufuse said,
now this will be an unforgettable event, in the way that you wont forget it as its something that takes your money monthly

Or takes your money daily.

thealexweb said,
Let the fragmenation continue

What fragmentation? Almost all current Apple device can and will be upgraded to iOS 4.3 - Don't push Android fragmentation on iOS, it's really not the same thing. Oh, and you don't need to wait for carriers to update your iPhone....

thealexweb said,
Let the fragmenation continue

???

The fragmention with people who wish to preserve functional jailbreaks and refuse to upgrade? The fragmentation with the third party iPhone vendors who refuse to upgrade and who don't exist?

Anyway, I highly doubt this 4.3 release won't be available for the iPhone 3G and 3GS. If that's what you mean.

TruckWEB said,

What fragmentation? Almost all current Apple device can and will be upgraded to iOS 4.3 - Don't push Android fragmentation on iOS, it's really not the same thing. Oh, and you don't need to wait for carriers to update your iPhone....

Android has the huge advantage of being able to update without the need for a computer, the vast majority of people I know rarely connect their iPod Touches to their computers and are still running iOS 3.

thealexweb said,

Android has the huge advantage of being able to update without the need for a computer, the vast majority of people I know rarely connect their iPod Touches to their computers and are still running iOS 3.


I agree -- this is a pretty major flaw with iOS, which I think is kind of surprising too. I have no idea why Apple won't let their users be able to more easily update their phones and synchronize their apps, since it means the user experience will be better. For once, it doesn't have to do with money at least, since it's just about the network transport medium in a user's home, and has nothing to do with Apple.

Northgrove said,

I agree -- this is a pretty major flaw with iOS, which I think is kind of surprising too. I have no idea why Apple won't let their users be able to more easily update their phones and synchronize their apps, since it means the user experience will be better. For once, it doesn't have to do with money at least, since it's just about the network transport medium in a user's home, and has nothing to do with Apple.

The networks wouldn't be very happy with handling millions of 500mb updates on a monthly basis, to keep Android phones up to date its a 100mb download every six months.

thealexweb said,

Android has the huge advantage of being able to update without the need for a computer, the vast majority of people I know rarely connect their iPod Touches to their computers and are still running iOS 3.


If an update actually gets pushed out that is... Which is about never. Still waiting for Froyo to hit my unbranded HTC Legend.

Edited by .Neo, Nov 24 2010, 4:49pm :

thealexweb said,

Android has the huge advantage of being able to update without the need for a computer, the vast majority of people I know rarely connect their iPod Touches to their computers and are still running iOS 3.

OMG...hahahaha... I'm sure a lot of Android users would gladly give up that "huge advantage" just to be on v2.2 for christ sake. lol google apologist are funny.

CRTrials said,
Yay. Now how about some real features that I actually want?

If you think in a larger perspective, this change will enable completely new apps that need a subscription model, that you would otherwise not get on an iPhone or iPad. Which could offer you features that you actually want.

I don't care about subscriptions... Just more money to Steve's bank How about over-the-air syncing? Like rumoured, so we don't need a usb cable all the time.

Pugalenthi Iniabarathi said,
Apple's iOS 4.3 and MS's IE 9 are getting hotter

They aren't even related... One is a browser and the other is a mobile OS...

Electric Jolt said,

They aren't even related... One is a browser and the other is a mobile OS...

am speaking abt the top companies product!!! Apple iOs released and MS IE9 leaked ...