Rumour: Mac App Store to be integrated into iTunes

Ever since iTunes first launch as a digital music store Apple has been adding more and more content to it making the application an almost one-stop shop for your digital needs. Ranging from music to videos, and even mobile applications iTunes does it all. Curiously though, when Apple released the Mac App Store, this came as a separate application.

On an Italian Apple blog, Slide To Mac, they have an image which appears to show the classic App Store logo with the words "Coming Soon" below it within iTunes. While this makes sense on the Mac side, it would lead to drastic differences between the OS X and Windows versions of iTunes. The media application so far has been relatively the same across both platforms, but adding in the Mac App Store would create a huge gap between the two versions.

Interestingly enough, currently the Mac App Store and iTunes are already integrated to an extent. Links to the Mac App Store version of an OS X application are prefixed with the subdomain "itunes" just like current iPhone App Store application pages. A quick look at the Mac App Store link for Compartments, and then the iPhone App Store link for Angry Birds shows the similarities between the web component of the App Stores.

Both iTunes and the Mac App Store work in similar ways, so an integration like this is fully possible. iTunes may soon no longer simply be a player, but may be an entire hub for anything and everything OS X.

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Oh wow, yeah, because I use my MEDIA PLAYER to install and manage my computer's applications, my tablet's eBooks and my mobile phone's contact list, makes perfect sense...

Wasn't there another rumor like this one but about Safari browser integrated with iTunes? I do not mind the Mac OS App store integrated with iTunes which makes sense but iTunes already lags so damn much and I do use iTunes both on my iMac and Dell notebook already. Hopefully they will never add Safari browser into iTunes and leave it on its own, iTunes is already loaded with too much.

Can we just rename the darn thing to the iStore, iShop, or somethign else? iTunes is such a dumb name anymore... how about disintegrate the music part of it into its own iTunes music management system, then have a store that you can purchase music, books, and software from that is seperate from iTunes... because iTunes is way too much now

I have itunes completely uninstalled on all my mac machines but I do use the app store, wonder if this will force me back into having itunes installed by making it impossible to uninstall without taking the app store with it.
I wouldn't mind itunes if it didn't always try to force itself as the default audio player.

I feel like iTunes in general needs a revamp. It seems (to me at least) that they should turn back the clock in a way on iTunes and bring it back to just being a media (music, movies, etc) hub by ripping out the whole aspect of the iTunes store and creating an entirely new iStore type app that could include everything from the iTunes Store, Mac App Store, and maybe even incorporate a hardware section to this new iStore app to incorporate the items that they currently sell online through their Apple Store on apple.com.

This way iTunes would become a more lightweight media library manager that could still have some online capabilities, such as getting album artwork or keeping podcasts up to date. Apple could then have an entire program completely devoted to being a store that would sell everything from iMacs to iPods and the applications that would go on them. They could even still have iTunes and the iStore be somewhat integrated so that music or videos purchased through the iStore could automatically be synced up with iTunes.

Apple has a lot of potential ways in which they could go with this but to me it seems to make more sense to stop weighing down iTunes with all of these extra features that really just seem to be taking away from the media player side of iTunes.

I wish people would start talking sense on here. Windows users are not being ditched but they can't expect the MAC AppStore to arive on windows. Does Microsoft give Mac Windows Marketplace? Well then.

I think a more interesting solution would be to integrate iTunes, the App store, etc. into Finder. Click Music on the right and the interface changes into iTunes within Finder; the same for the App Store etc.

Xenon said,
You know they could start selling PC apps thru the windows version of iTunes.

Why should one buy PC apps - does something like that even exist? - from Apple?

I'd be all for it if they rewrote iTunes to be a bit snappier. As it stands, I can open up the Mac appstore in one second or so after clicking it. iTunes, on the other hand, takes a good 5-10 seconds. Nit picking, I know, but I don't see why they can't make iTunes a 64-bit Cocoa app. Maybe to keep compatibility with the Windows version? Not sure.

iTunes should already be split into 3 or 4 separate apps, throw the app store in there too and ensure that I'll never use it.

Surely they would change the name if they are integrating the appstore. iTunes has nothing to do with osx apps. I can't see them changing the name because it's so iconic now and it could also cause confusion between the mac appstore and iphone/ipad app store.

I call fail rumour.

Joy, more stuff on the godawful iTunes platform. If they're going to add something, at least put in a freaking contacts list manager for the iPhone.

The word iTunes really doesn't make any sense any longer. It used to be about music, and then grew to include radio, podcasts, ringtones, and videos ... and eventually books, tv shows, movies, and iOS apps. It does make sense to add MacOS apps to the mix, but the original name is ridiculously inadequate.

Just as iPhoneOS was renamed to iOS to signify that it runs iPhone, iPod, and iPad, then "iTunes Store" should be renamed to perhaps iStore or iMedia or iContent ... though none of those names seem as catchy as iTunes to me. hmm....

I don't understand why they can't just have an app called Store that would have the music and app stores. Preferably it was also not made by the hacks who develop iTunes.

Nooo! That Mac App Store is *not* part of iTunes is one of the great things about it.

They should go the opposite direction. iTunes should remain what it is today, except for the iPhone/Pod/Pad/Pid/Pyd sync thing.

Really, a rumour? That is how I expected it to be in the first place, makes sense having a single unified payment method across all of a companies devices. Unless I just don't understand how it works, I probably don't
If there are drastic differences between the windows and mac versions of iTunes it could be good for windows users because apple might spent more time making it work properly.
T8

dagamer34 said,
They need to change the name to iEverything then.

I've actually been waiting for them to rename iTunes to iLife and name the suite something else.

Not true. They would have done it right away the first time. Apple is not the kind of company to do twice the same work.

Why might there be an app store logo in iTunes? I mean, it just contains the app store for iPhone and iPod touch as well as the one for the iPad.

It should really be the other way around... i.e., the stores should be removed from iTunes and iTunes should revert back to media library player and manager. It would be nice if they also separated out device syncing.

Shadrack said,
It should really be the other way around... i.e., the stores should be removed from iTunes and iTunes should revert back to media library player and manager. It would be nice if they also separated out device syncing.

+1 but they should still be connected, not completely separate applications

Shadrack said,
It should really be the other way around... i.e., the stores should be removed from iTunes and iTunes should revert back to media library player and manager. It would be nice if they also separated out device syncing.

-1
I like the unification.

GS:win

I have a hard time believing that they would be combined. In the Lion demo they were completely separate and it wouldn't make sense to merge them when you have Launchpad in the mix.

Plus, considering that the App Store and iTunes Store are separate in iOS, it would make sense that they'd keep the same idea in play on OSX.

Tanshin said,
I have a hard time believing that they would be combined. In the Lion demo they were completely separate and it wouldn't make sense to merge them when you have Launchpad in the mix.

Plus, considering that the App Store and iTunes Store are separate in iOS, it would make sense that they'd keep the same idea in play on OSX.


1st: So what? Lion demo only shows current state. It's not a promise how things will be.
At the time of Lion demo a solid iTunes build with an integrated MAS wasn't done I assume.
2nd: Good thought, but remember: player and purchasing app (iTunes) are separate, too on iOS. Apps are fragmented for single uses by purpose.

GS:win

Tanshin said,
I have a hard time believing that they would be combined. In the Lion demo they were completely separate and it wouldn't make sense to merge them when you have Launchpad in the mix.

I know! It's not like they have over a year between that demo and a release date to merge the two. Because it'd take at least that to put the primarily HTML-based App Store into iTunes.

Oh, wait.

"iTunes may soon no longer simply be a player..."

iTunes hasn't "simply been a player" for *years*. It's a horrible, bloated piece of junk.

iKenndac said,
"iTunes may soon no longer simply be a player..."

iTunes hasn't "simply been a player" for *years*. It's a horrible, bloated piece of junk.


+1

Julius Caro said,

+1

If it was simply a player, I could do File -> Open File. Trying to do that last night just to play a file really irritated me.

dave164 said,

If it was simply a player, I could do File -> Open File. Trying to do that last night just to play a file really irritated me.


iTunes is not a media play only. It is actually a media library manager.
If you prefer folder management, iTunes is not made for you.

The best player-only is VLC among others. THIS is what you want.

GS:win

iKenndac said,
"iTunes may soon no longer simply be a player..."

iTunes hasn't "simply been a player" for *years*. It's a horrible, bloated piece of junk.

Glassed Silver said,

iTunes is not a media play only. It is actually a media library manager.
If you prefer folder management, iTunes is not made for you.

Other software supports both aproches - hell even Windows Media Player offers both

iKenndac said,
"iTunes may soon no longer simply be a player..."

iTunes hasn't "simply been a player" for *years*. It's a horrible, bloated piece of junk.

can't wait for the Itunes OS that you can boot upto instead of MS windows /s

Lachlan said,

can't wait for the Itunes OS that you can boot upto instead of MS windows /s

Now that would be scary... Considering just the iTunes application takes longer to load on most computers than it takes them to boot.

Apple is not so good about Application development, especially outside of OS X. Most companies that support multiple platforms are like Microsoft where there is a dedicated group of OS X developers that love and use OS X and this ensures that products like Microsoft Office for OS X are solid OS X applications and not some ported bloated hack.

thenetavenger said,
Most companies that support multiple platforms are like Microsoft where there is a dedicated group of OS X developers that love and use OS X and this ensures that products like Microsoft Office for OS X are solid OS X applications and not some ported bloated hack.

Why does that statement make me laugh...

iTunes loads pretty fast on my computer - but that may be because I use a mac.

Sure M$ is getting better on OS X - but its only been with Office 2011 that we have the ability to open Outlook PST files natively. And even with Office 2011 I have run into many issues with documents purely because they were created on Windows - and not Mac. Office 2008 was a stop gap measure that at least let us edit .docx files, but I would always switch over to windows to use Office 2007 or better yet for many things - use the iWork Suite. And even with Office 2011 - there is still a disconnect between Office 2011 and Office 2010. (And I am not talking Macro's)

Office 2011 wasn't able to edit anything in the excel document in my example, Office 2008 was able to select things from drop down lists - but it took Office 2007 on Windows to be able to both select items from drop down lists and enter text into cells in Excel. You would assume that a document created in Office 2007 would be able to be edited successfully in a version 4 years more recent. I have an example where Outlook 2011 cannot connect to Exchange 2010, but Outlook 2010 can.

I won't even mention the disconnect between many companies with Messengers - such as Yahoo and the difference between the Mac and Windows clients - Skype as well and Microsoft Live only got video outside of corporate recently in MSN8 on the mac. And you had to wait until 2011 was released with Communicator - as the Beta of MSN8 on the mac wouldn't support Corporate Accounts.

Even looking at firefox a cross platform browser - its only with the v4 Beta that I have seen results I would call satisfactory with application start time and responsiveness on OS X.

I wont even talk about Adobe.

The Mac app store combined with iTunes wouldn't create a huge gap between the Mac version and the Windows version - Windows doesn't have an App store (Yet) and Mac does, Windows isn't losing or gaining anything.

Jan said,
The Mac app store combined with iTunes wouldn't create a huge gap between the Mac version and the Windows version - Windows doesn't have an App store (Yet) and Mac does, Windows isn't losing or gaining anything.

O_O

Ooookay, I will assume I skipped that comment.

Jan said,
The Mac app store combined with iTunes wouldn't create a huge gap between the Mac version and the Windows version - Windows doesn't have an App store (Yet) and Mac does, Windows isn't losing or gaining anything.

Windows users are already treated like second class citizens, though not so much by Apple but by a number of iOS developers. This simply reinforces where Apple's priorities are, and have always been.

My suggestion, if you want a real wireless phone (get an Android, WP7 or WebOS) and avoid iOS like the plague that it is. If you want "webkit", use Chrome (or one of the many variants). Finally, don't install iTunes or Quicktime... they are just slow, bloated trash and ugly as sin on Windows.

azure.sapphire said,
Windows users are already treated like second class citizens, though not so much by Apple but by a number of iOS developers. This simply reinforces where Apple's priorities are, and have always been.

Why would iOS developers care about Windows users?

theh0g said,

Why would iOS developers care about Windows users?

Money. Most iPhone/iPod Touch owners use Windows. It would be nice if Apple/iOS developers didn't treat us like sh*t.

theh0g said,

Why would iOS developers care about Windows users?

You mean that small group that has 90% of the computer market, and over 1 Billion 'active' computers?

Just for some perspective...

There are more PCs currently running just Windows7 than all the Macs sold in the past 26 years combined.

Want a better perspective...

There are more PCs currently running just Windows7 than all the Macs, iPhones, and iPads sold in the past 26 years combined.


So it would seem reasonable that a iOS developer would 'care' about the majority of the technical population. However, in defense of your statement, in non-computer users and people that don't own computers, the iPhone is significantly more popular in a basis comparison with people that own and use computers.

So maybe they shouldn't care, as the non-technical and less computer literate market is a strong aspect of iPhone and now iPad sales.

theh0g said,

Why would iOS developers care about Windows users?

Exactly!

thenetavenger said,

You mean that small group that has 90% of the computer market, and over 1 Billion 'active' computers?

Just for some perspective...

There are more PCs currently running just Windows7 than all the Macs sold in the past 26 years combined.

Want a better perspective...

There are more PCs currently running just Windows7 than all the Macs, iPhones, and iPads sold in the past 26 years combined.


So it would seem reasonable that a iOS developer would 'care' about the majority of the technical population. However, in defense of your statement, in non-computer users and people that don't own computers, the iPhone is significantly more popular in a basis comparison with people that own and use computers.

So maybe they shouldn't care, as the non-technical and less computer literate market is a strong aspect of iPhone and now iPad sales.

If they're an iOS developer then they don't care about Windows or Mac users. Their apps are being deployed on iOS devices regardless of whether you sync your device to iTunes on a Mac or Windows computer.

asdavis10 said,

Exactly!

If they're an iOS developer then they don't care about Windows or Mac users. Their apps are being deployed on iOS devices regardless of whether you sync your device to iTunes on a Mac or Windows computer.

Really?

You do realize that there are Apps that work in conjunction with your computer?

How users are able to purchase their Apps should also be of concern, even if all they can do is exert pressure on Apple.

Seriously, no matter what technology you are designing, if you purposely ignore the Windows market and the Windows users, you are closing your mind to the general population and the largest technology market in existence.

I know Apple is cool again, and the media loves them, but this reality is not reflective of the real world where most people are happy with Windows7 and would like to see more Windows 'like' Apps on their iPhone or iPad.


I'm pretty sure there is a bridge missing you, maybe head on back to it, ok?