Rumour: Samsung to buy Nokia

Last week's rumours about Microsoft acquiring Nokia's phone unit for $19 billion were quickly shot down by Nokia themselves following a flurry of activity from the media. This came after a similar rumour emerged in the middle of May. Today, the latest buzz from the rumour mill presents a new party interested in acquiring Nokia - Samsung, another Windows Phone partner.

According to BusinessInsider, the possibility was raised by Arild Moen of the Wall Street Journal. Speculation of the deal was raised on three factors: the rejection of any talks between Microsoft and Nokia of an acquisition, and the falling Nokia stock, which may be attributed to criticism over Nokia's change of strategy from developing their software in-house to adopting a new third-party operating system.

The third factor is quite interesting, as Florian Mueller of FOSSpatents points out on Twitter. By acquiring Nokia, Samsung gets a nice portfolio of patents they can use to take on Apple with, given their current dispute in court.

Interestingly enough, neither Nokia nor Samsung are denouncing the rumours, as Nokia did last week with the Microsoft buyout. Spokespersons for both Nokia and Samsung refused to comment on this latest rumour.

Thanks to Mephistopheles for the tip on the forums!

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I don't know why people keep speculating the purchase of Nokia. It doesn't make sense for Microsoft nor Samsung to buy them. Is everyone after all these years unware of how Microsoft works. It's like those other idiots that think MS should be split. Outside of a hostile takeover, I don't think Nokia wants to be bought and I wouldn't be suprised if Finland blocked a takeover attempt. If anthing, Microsoft would give them more money to stay afloat but they are no where near that kind of trouble yet. Between WP7 and Windows 8, I think Nokia has some goods times coming ahead.

Please. Wall Street is still butthurt that Nokia chose Windows Phone over their golden child, Android.

I have it on great authority that Samsung will buy Nokia, defeat Apple in court lowering their market value and then buyout Apple.

Nah, not really but it's a thought.

FMH said,
This rumor doesn't makes sense. Samsung smart-phone division grew by 350% over last year.
http://www.businessinsider.com/smartphone-marketshare-2011-5
Anti-trust committee won't allow this since Nokia and Samsung will have such a large combined market share. They will become a monopoly.
And what about Windows Phone deal with Microsoft?

Cause nothing will change Nokia will be just a division of Samsung as opposed to independent entity. Otherwise Samsung will only be purchasing chunks of the company or they could buy the whole lot and spin off and sell the parts like symbians dev/management and support areas which manage all current mobiles as a private company.

smooth3006 said,
well there goes the nokia based wp7 line then. shame as i might of tried one out.

Even under samsung they'd still be released.

No, anyone buying Nokia would be horrible, Nokia makes awesome phones, Symbian still is an awesome operating system (Sure it's not 'snappy' as the iPhone, but seriously, the flagship models run on a 680MHz ARM11 instruction set processor... you can't even compare that with the current v7 processors, but to me it's still great and Nokia is working 'hard' on rewriting the UI from C++ to QT)

If samsung buys Nokia: Nokia will start churning out crap, cheap, FRAGILE phones. And will eventually just be closed by Samsung. Only thing worse than this would be Apple buying Nokia. (Prepare for massive lawsuits, Apple will sue pretty much anyone for making a phone)

If Microsoft buys Nokia: Nokia will turn into a full-blown WP7 maker, I have no idea what this will do to the quality of their phones... Maybe Microsoft will reconsider and add support for QT in WP7? Maybe they will integrate some neat behind-the-scene code from Symbian? I don't know.... I would prefer Nokia staying Nokia.

This will be good because it would be in the hands of a company who can keep them functioning much to similar capacity as they do and do it well as opposed to this idea Microsoft could buy them and all of a sudden a software company with little experience in mobile market let alone the hardware area just automatically can run them without screwing everything up and as forseen use and abuse their portfolios like how Apples strategy works. Samsung or another similar company would be the best to pocket Nokia if they went on the market.

Oh and btw, Microsoft don't have a bottomless pit of money either.

Digitalx said,
This will be good because it would be in the hands of a company who can keep them functioning much to similar capacity as they do and do it well as opposed to this idea Microsoft could buy them and all of a sudden a software company with little experience in mobile market let alone the hardware area just automatically can run them without screwing everything up and as forseen use and abuse their portfolios like how Apples strategy works. Samsung or another similar company would be the best to pocket Nokia if they went on the market.

Oh and btw, Microsoft don't have a bottomless pit of money either.

Microsoft has little experience in the mobile market? What? Windows Mobile 6/6.5 ring a bell to you? Hahaha.

Digitalx said,
This will be good because it would be in the hands of a company who can keep them functioning much to similar capacity as they do and do it well as opposed to this idea Microsoft could buy them and all of a sudden a software company with little experience in mobile market let alone the hardware area just automatically can run them without screwing everything up and as forseen use and abuse their portfolios like how Apples strategy works. Samsung or another similar company would be the best to pocket Nokia if they went on the market.

Oh and btw, Microsoft don't have a bottomless pit of money either.

Microsoft, mobile market? Are you New?

Microsoft was doing PDAs and Car Stereos in the 90s, and Phones around 2002. When the iPhone released, it had far less features than WinMo did at the time.

Let alone all the other areas of mobile devices that Microsoft still controls, like Sync in most Ford automobiles.

The Teej said,

Microsoft has little experience in the mobile market? What? Windows Mobile 6/6.5 ring a bell to you? Hahaha.

Just because they released niche software at the time never made it a success. Same could be said about XP Tablet edition. Anyhow, lack of experience = lack of success which is the situation they were in then and still are now. And if Microsoft pick up Nokia it's going to go the same route as Symbian did like a fish out of water.

That would be awesome! Nokia have quality and robust phones, but the software support has always been bad. I'm sure Samsung would bring Nokia back on it's feet.

I doubt it. Samsung is already doing pretty well in the phone market, and I seriously doubt a larger patent portfolio is in any kind a solution to threat from e.g. Apple, HTC, and others.

Maybe if Nokia's patents are hindering Samsung's own progress though, but not for other reasons. Samsung is no patent troll.

I think that rumor would make more sense if Samsung didn't have a decent phone presence already.

I hope the deal goes through, as then that is more ammo that Samsung can use against Apple fail. Now take that Apple Fail.

soldier1st said,
I hope the deal goes through, as then that is more ammo that Samsung can use against Apple fail. Now take that Apple Fail.

Um, what?

Wasn't there another rumour for Microsoft to buy Nokia like 2 weeks back? Next thing it'll be Google and Microsoft owning them all.

drazgoosh said,
Wasn't there another rumour for Microsoft to buy Nokia like 2 weeks back? Next thing it'll be Google and Microsoft owning them all.

if you read the article, you wouldnt be making this comment.. did you need someone to make a video of the article for you?

CJ33 said,

if you read the article, you wouldnt be making this comment.. did you need someone to make a video of the article for you?

It would be cooler if they made Audiobooks.

Microsoft needs to buy Nokia. Samsung doesnot need. Samsung phones are pretty good and imaging quality is improving. They don't need to waste money in buying Nokia. Microsoft on the other hand really need to make their own phone.

Tech Star said,
I foresee Microsoft overpaying for Nokia soon. Just like they did Skype.

I don't know, why would someone buy a near-death company?

Jarrichvdv said,

I don't know, why would someone buy a near-death company?
Patent, Intellectual properties, Market share etc etc

Jarrichvdv said,

I don't know, why would someone buy a near-death company?

Also their hardware. Nokia makes excellent hardware and if Microsoft gets access to that then their phones would be beast.

Jarrichvdv said,

I don't know, why would someone buy a near-death company?

why would someone want to buy the remains of a shutting down company? aka nortel? their IP of course.....

Jarrichvdv said,

I don't know, why would someone buy a near-death company?

If Apple was becoming a near death company would you not buy them to get control of they're patents?
Although you can argue that the patented technologies were not good enough (and thats why they're failing), you need to remember that its all about execution of those ideas and Samsung probably has good idea's hence why they're buying the company.

If they buy Nokia, the could use them as there windows phone "division" while pumping out Galaxy Andriod devices.

Plus if if Nokia is not in that debt (not sure), there buying something that would burn a whole in there pocket.

etempest said,
If they buy Nokia, the could use them as there windows phone "division" while pumping out Galaxy Andriod devices.

Plus if if Nokia is not in that debt (not sure), there buying something that would burn a whole in there pocket.

Would be the worst thing that could happen to WP7. Samsung, like other current WP7 OEM's are heavily invested in android, they are not interested in doing anything but the minimum with WP7. Wont be surprised if they even cancel any Nokia WP7 handsets. Really hope this is nothing more than a rumour.

efjay said,

Would be the worst thing that could happen to WP7. Samsung, like other current WP7 OEM's are heavily invested in android, they are not interested in doing anything but the minimum with WP7. Wont be surprised if they even cancel any Nokia WP7 handsets. Really hope this is nothing more than a rumour.

They can't. The deal was made.

efjay said,

Would be the worst thing that could happen to WP7. Samsung, like other current WP7 OEM's are heavily invested in android, they are not interested in doing anything but the minimum with WP7. Wont be surprised if they even cancel any Nokia WP7 handsets. Really hope this is nothing more than a rumour.

I don't think you have been listening to Samsung, they are 'getting by' with Android until they can shove it off a cliff. It costs them a lot of money due to the horrid OS design and the responsibility resting on the OEM/MFRs shoulders. WP7 is far cheaper, and as soon as they can drop Tablets with Windows 8 and WP8 phones, Samsung will be pushing Android off the cliff.

Go read what Samsung has been saying about Android several times in the last few months.

thenetavenger said,

I don't think you have been listening to Samsung, they are 'getting by' with Android until they can shove it off a cliff. It costs them a lot of money due to the horrid OS design and the responsibility resting on the OEM/MFRs shoulders. WP7 is far cheaper, and as soon as they can drop Tablets with Windows 8 and WP8 phones, Samsung will be pushing Android off the cliff.

Go read what Samsung has been saying about Android several times in the last few months.

You have a history of saying things and not backing it. Source please. For now, I push your comment off a cliff.

KingCrimson said,
Meanwhile Apple is laughing their a## off while Samsung/MSFT destroy themselves!

Any arguments to back up your claim, dear Apple fan?

KingCrimson said,
Meanwhile Apple is laughing their a## off while Samsung/MSFT destroy themselves!

Meanwhile, Joe Belfiore is laughing his a## off while Apple fails to innovate by ripping off features from WP7 in iOS 5.

PlogCF said,

Meanwhile, Joe Belfiore is laughing his a## off while Apple fails to innovate by ripping off features from WP7 in iOS 5.

and btw, iOS 5 (so far) looks almost like 4, with those crappy kids icons, and it's not even by far an intuitive OS.

SubZenit said,

and btw, iOS 5 (so far) looks almost like 4, with those crappy kids icons, and it's not even by far an intuitive OS.

Iseewutudidthur.

wolftail said,
Let me guess... Now Microsoft will buy Nokia just to stop Samsung from doing it first. )

exactly what i was thinking lol

yowan said,
Who would want to buy Nokia? They are are a cancer at this point.

What are you smoking? Nokia could be in business trouble but don't forget their portfolio of patents. These are pretty attractive to adquire by any interested party.

yowan said,
Who would want to buy Nokia? They are are a cancer at this point.
"By acquiring Nokia, Samsung gets a nice portfolio of patents they can use to take on Apple with" thats why they would buy them

yowan said,
Who would want to buy Nokia? They are are a cancer at this point.

Nokia make excellent phones without the software to back it up. They still have a good reputation in many parts of the world though.

yowan said,
Who would want to buy Nokia? They are are a cancer at this point.

Last time I checked, they had about twice the market share of Apple. Way to lose, yeah..

yowan said,
Who would want to buy Nokia? They are are a cancer at this point.

they are the best at making cheap phones.. just a lack of smartphones and tablets.. Samsung and Nokia would be a perfect pair because one would cover highend and anothe for low end products.. kind of like how acer bought Emachines and gateway to cover both polls of their products

Lachlan said,

they are the best at making cheap phones.. just a lack of smartphones and tablets.. Samsung and Nokia would be a perfect pair because one would cover highend and anothe for low end products.. kind of like how acer bought Emachines and gateway to cover both polls of their products

Nokia may not have done a lot of 'newsy' items in the past few years, but the defined and created a large part of the success of cellular phones in the 90s in the US and around the world. Their phones then and in the early 00s were known for being fairly inexpensive compared to Sony and Motorola, yet were quality phones with great reception.

They still make solid phones and have solid phone technologies and the patents for them. In the analog days, having a call dropped on a Nokia phone was rare, when it was common on Motorola phones, which also helped people in more rural areas of coverage be able to have handheld phones with the lower power instead of having to move to a bag phone to get a signal.

Nokia is ready to shine, and with Windows 8, they are in the perfect position to take front stage in the Tablet and even the WP7/WP8 world. Which will be nice to see phones that are not rebranded variations of Android phones that fit WP7/WP8 better.

Nokia is gold right now, or Samsung, who are NOT stupid wouldn't even be considering the purchase.

Samsung is also looking to drop Android, as they have talked about a couple of occasions earlier this year as they were tired of eating the development and support costs, making Android significantly more expensive for Samsung than a WP7 license and leaving the rest of the OS and software work up to Microsoft.
(Which is the same model that Windows used in the 90s to gain almost complete control of the computing industry, and watched as *nixes fell trying to be a bucket of everthing with no upper level OS functionality, just as Android is doing now.)