Samsung accused of using child labor in China to meet demand

China Labor Watch have alleged that Samsung hired children and underage student workers at supplier Shinyang Electronics in Dongguan to meet production targets during a period of high demand.

Although there is currently no confirmation of an active investigation by the authorities, Samsung said in a statement that no child labor was found by an external audit of about 100 Chinese suppliers; their audit also found that 55 of the suppliers did not provide safety equipment to employees and that excessive hours were common place..

A New York based watchdog found that the underage workers were required to work for 11 hours a day without overtime pay or social insurance.

This follows what could be considered a bad week for Samsung, after their Brazil plant was robbed of $36m in electronics equipment, and their revision of the second quarter earnings which saw a 25% drop in profit on last years figures for the same period.

Source: Phys | Image: BGR

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All this is, is a slander campaign against products makers from other countries. I see it as an attempt to make US citizens hate outside company's to promote products sold by US companies that are made in the same factories overseas.

The question is WHY THE HECK DO YOU CARE. What Asians do in their country is their business. Before the US made law against child labor, they used children too to make things like bombs and guns.

Whatever they do in their country is their business. In ALL Asian countries they use children to make stuff. Oprah Winfrey has several sweatshops full of kids making her stuff. Nike also has had children making Jordan's which cost 100's on retail but they were being paid nickels literally.

Apple and Samsung don't directly hire these people. They are hired by the factories they contract to make or assemble their products. It is not their job to police their business partner.

These companies know the laws of their own country, if they chose to break them that is on them not the US or other company's that hire them This constant badgering of Apple and Samsung and others over such is stupid.

As far as I am concerned, it is no deterrent. Most of the products we buy in the US are made in china. I am sure the vast majority are made by underage workers. When Apple or Samsung releases there next shiny new toy, how many of you are going to say I am not going to buy tis product because a child likely put it together? NONE OF US.

I certainly don't think of it and I am not gonna start now. If a child made ny next phone the Note 4, great that help ensure I have the phone I want. After all, the child went an applied for the job, they got hired, they are getting paid whatever it is. In China as many people in the family needs to work like Hispanics do here in the US. I rather they work vs turning to a life of crime like the fools that live in the USA.

Edited by Hi_XPecTa_Chens, Jul 10 2014, 4:38pm :

Wow all of the outrage toward child labourers in electronics factories.

Try being a child labourer in the tobacco fields of the USA.

Seriously, look up "Nicoteens" by Samantha Bee, from The Daily Show.

deadonthefloor said,
Wow all of the outrage toward child labourers in electronics factories.

Try being a child labourer in the tobacco fields of the USA.

Seriously, look up "Nicoteens" by Samantha Bee, from The Daily Show.

The Daily Show, now there is real news!

xrobwx said,
The Daily Show, now there is real news!

A satirical look at world events is as close as some of us want to get to real news.

I watched an episode of VICE. That's scary ######.

i hope any company or corporation that you child for slavery ,the should be in jail ... but this nasty world don't do nothing to stop it .

Gaara sama said,
i hope any company or corporation that you child for slavery ,the should be in jail ... but this nasty world don't do nothing to stop it .
Why should they stop it? It si no different than employers in the US hiring undocumented workers. They do it because they can pay them under the table, pay them less money, work them to death, and they don't have to pay any taxes on them.

Why don't these go to jail here vs just paying a fine and getting a slap on the wrist? Do they go to jail? NO! I am talking about my country the USA. I could care less what people do in their own country. It si after all none of our business.

All this I is a slander campaign against products makers from other countries. I see it as an attempt to make US citizens hate outside company's to promote products sold by US companies that are made in the same factories overseas.

Human rights in China? Decent working conditions? Clean air? Following ANY labor law? Honoring copyrights?
China follows any law ? mwhahaha

People who are not willing to pay between 5 and 10 times more money for the things they buy should not complain. Investors who are not willing to accept there's a point where a company can not make more profit should not complain. In the end we are all guilty of this.

This doesn't make sense to me. I thought this was one of the most highly sought after jobs there? Cant they find enough adults to do the work? Odd...

I would have done anything when I was a child to get a job. I remember having 4 paper rounds at one point just to save up to buy an Amiga 1200!

Tomo said,
I would have done anything when I was a child to get a job. I remember having 4 paper rounds at one point just to save up to buy an Amiga 1200!

The only problem with child labor is the tendency for them to be abused. But I've seen dumb adults convinced to do deplorably dangerous things, so I'm all for child labor laws. People are awful.

Will the whatever-watch provide the families of those kids with additional income? Riiight. It's bad for kids to work, but in some countries, there's no other choice.

Hell, iirc, there was something on BBC where they showed a family of 3 persons (mom, baby and 12 yr old son). Due to health issue, the mom was unable to work, and the 12 yr old kid started to work to bring some food in the house.

Get out of the stone age China and help your people...and while you are at it your environment, pollution and endangered wildlife.

If this is true, it's despicable. However, I just bet the majority of Americans, British, Canadian, etc., could care less as long as they get their devices. That is even more despicable.

Gergel7077 said,
If this is true, it's despicable. However, I just bet the majority of Americans, British, Canadian, etc., could care less as long as they get their devices. That is even more despicable.

Bet you own one of those devices.

xrobwx said,

Bet you own one of those devices.

I actually don't "own" any Samsung, Apple, Microsoft etc. devices. I do work with them at my job in IT. The only thing I do use is a company issued Blackberry and Asus issued laptop.

So you lost that bet :)

Gotenks98 said,
Why pick on Samsung? Apple and the rest do the same thing. I fail to see the issue here.
You fail to see the issue.. with Child Labour..
There's really nothing else to say I guess.

The_Observer said,
Your kidding right, there have been lots of media attention about Apple and Foxcon and the working conditions.
While I am not saying its right concerning the conditions there but those people choose to work there. Its not like they steal the kids off the street and make them work. I hate the whole aspect of this because its outsourcing. Its jobs that americans should have, minus the child slave part of course. I just think that if they gonna blame Samsung they need to blame Apple, and whoever else who does this. Fair is fair. That's what I mean.

how else can the kids afford to feed there family's? no offence but if kids want to work. let them. or go after the kid and the parents. not the company. this has been going on sense the beginning of time. and then we try to stop something in a country thats been doing this just as long? and what the heck is social insurance?

Edited by dsbig, Jul 10 2014, 10:00am :

Kids shouldn't work in stressful conditions. It hurts their development.
Samsung could instead put out a slightly lower supply, and still make money, with no child workers.
Social insurance is welfare.

The mantra of Conservatism. It's not the company's fault, it's the workers fault. After all "Corporations are people, but people are not people".

dsbig said,
....and what the heck is social insurance?

I live in China. Here, AFAIK, social insurance exists only after one's paying for it for over ten years or a full year, for a lifelong/two-month-long one respectively. To make matters worse, these (already insane) policies changes from time to time, making what will happen in 10 years barely predictable. I personally, therefore, am reluctant to say there is any 'social insurance' in China.

so when foxconn is in the news with something positive the article turns into an Apple and iPhone ad, and when negative, suddenly only Samsung is using foxconn..

Wall-swe said,
Apple
actually under CLW own article about samsung factories, its subtitle said:
An Investigation of Eight Samsung Factories in China: Is Samsung Infringing Upon Apple's Patent to Bully Workers?

But for some reason, that subtitle that mentioned about Apple are removed here...

http://www.chinalaborwatch.org/pro/proshow-177.html

CLW seems suggesting Samsung only try to copying Apple regarding to worker treatments how-to.

Wall-swe said,
so when foxconn is in the news with something positive the article turns into an Apple and iPhone ad, and when negative, suddenly only Samsung is using foxconn..

Wow, you know a person is an Apple hater when....

stevan said,

Wow, you know a person is an Apple hater when....

When they actually say they hate Apple products. Anything else would simply be your opinion. Stop being a hater...lol

Hi_XPecTa_Chens said,
When they actually say they hate Apple products. Anything else would simply be your opinion. Stop being a hater...lol

You need to stop contradicting yourself within your sentences.

stevan said,

You need to stop contradicting yourself within your sentences.

I didn't. Stop being a hater. I don't hate Apple products, but I do dislike them for various reasons. All which are good IMO. But to each his own.

Torolol said,
why its "China" Labor watch? and not other countries?

Hahaha it didn't have to be an 'other country labor watch' because samsung IS 'other country' to china!

as long those children are properly paid and works under good working environment thats a lot better than those children were absorbed by some violent gangs.

but since those children were underpaid and works under deplorable working conditions, thats a crime.

Torolol said,
as long those children are properly paid and works under good working environment thats a lot better than those children were absorbed by some violent gangs.

but since those children were underpaid and works under deplorable working conditions, thats a crime.

Maybe I didn't state my question clearly... I'll start again :)

There are thousands of people who apply for these jobs in China. Thousands of people who are old enough.

So did they hire all those people... and still need children too?

It doesn't seem like there is a shortage of workers in China... based on the size of these lines outside the factories on hiring days.

I understand that child labor is wrong... I'm just trying to figure out why they would even think of hiring children in the first place!

I'm pretty sure Samsung didn't kick down some people's front doors and take off with the kids living there. Those kids went there on their own. How old are we talking about anyway?

What's considered underage? My dad was doing pretty hard work on a farm as a teenager. My mom was raised on a farm and she was out in the field, doing what she could to help, before she was 10. That was before heavy machinery made farm work a lot easier than it is today. I've never heard either complain about the long hours doing exhausting work in the hot summer sun.