Samsung compares Galaxy S II to iPhone 4S

Apple's introduction on the iPhone 4S on Tuesday was met with some disappointment, even from long time Apple fans. One of its biggest rivals, Samsung, has taken the lead and sent out a comparison chart to members of the media that compared the iPhone 4S features to those of Samsung's Galaxy S II. That Android-based smartphone was released over five months ago overseas and started being sold here in the US in September.

SlashGear posted up the comparison chart and while the iPhone 4S does have a few items on the check list that are actually better than the Galaxy S II, it's clear that the Galaxy S II has a number of feature that top the iPhone 4S. That includes support for true 4G networks such as WiMax (which is supported on the Sprint version), a much larger screen (4.3 and 4.5 inches versus the iPhone 4S's 3.5 inches), a removable battery and the fact that it weighs less. The Samsung Galaxy S II is just 4.3 ounces compared to 4.9 ounces for the iPhone 4S.

There are some things the iPhone 4S has over the Galaxy S II. Its screen resolution is 960 x 640 versus the Galaxy S II's 800 x 480 resolution, even with its larger screen, and the iPhone 4S does offer an option to go up to 64 GB in storage without the need for a SD card, although the price of that phone is much higher at $399.

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Paying $100 premium for 32 additional GB of storage is crazy. I dont mind swapping out 2 SDcards. Thesecond card only cost me $35 and its actually as far as speed rating, faster than the drive being used in iPhone 4/4S.

The retail cost of that Saumsung is $499 of contract. Also, a higher resolution on such a small screen actually sucks vs a lower resolution on a bigger screen.

The loser res on a bigger screen looks better when you need to display more text. And because Android wraps all text on webpages, I can always see it clear and bigger vs iPhone where it is smaller and require sliding back and forth. So consider that as well.

Android allows more camera control. I can choose highest to lowest resolutions for taking pictures. Not being forced to take a pictue at high res which east up more storage. And since my iPhone is always filled to nearly the very end, with only 1.5GB of space left; I don't want to take every picture at 2GB each. I could store 5x's as many pictures in 2GB @ 640 x 480 vs iPhone native resolution. And HDR makes it even worse as 2 pictures are taken sucking up more space.

Siri is just a gimmick. I think it is sad Apple isnt allowing it on the original iPhone 4. The feature will work as the iPhone 4 is plenty fast enough. But they have to get you to buy the new one.

I guess I will opt for a 64gb Touch. cheaper in the long run.

Few questions:
1) Why aren't Apple's "wins" coloured blue? e.g. dedicated camera button
2) Why are subjective things coloured blue on Samsung's side? e.g. latest version of Gingerbread
3) How is 16GB internal + max. 32GB external better than 64GB internal? Maths fail.
4) How is Samsung's pricing better? Both companies offer a 16GB device for $199.
5) Why bother having a row for "Use of smartphone as HDTV remote control"? That's slightly pathetic. And technically, iPhones are capable of being used as remote controls (there's an app for that).

Manish said,
Few questions:
1) Why aren't Apple's "wins" coloured blue? e.g. dedicated camera button
2) Why are subjective things coloured blue on Samsung's side? e.g. latest version of Gingerbread
3) How is 16GB internal + max. 32GB external better than 64GB internal? Maths fail.
4) How is Samsung's pricing better? Both companies offer a 16GB device for $199.
5) Why bother having a row for "Use of smartphone as HDTV remote control"? That's slightly pathetic. And technically, iPhones are capable of being used as remote controls (there's an app for that).
bec I can use as many 32GB as I want. And they are cheaper too @ $35 ea. You brain can't comprehend. Thus you fail

TechieXP said,
bec I can use as many 32GB as I want. And they are cheaper too @ $35 ea. You brain can't comprehend. Thus you fail

Can you use them at the same time though? No. I don't want to have to keep swapping SD cards to get access to all my apps, music, movies, etc. Convenience fail.

"You brain can't comprehend." English fail.

Manish said,

Can you use them at the same time though? No. I don't want to have to keep swapping SD cards to get access to all my apps, music, movies, etc. Convenience fail.

"You brain can't comprehend." English fail.

Maybe only you dont want the cheap replacable storage..not other people...thus you fail again

digitheatre said,

Maybe only you dont want the cheap replacable storage..not other people...thus you fail again


Umm, yeah. It must just be me buying all those iPhones then since no-one agrees with me. *sigh* I'd rather pay a bit extra for convenience, but you go ahead and enjoy swapping SD cards every so often!

Ive noticed something very cultist with Apple users. If the iPhone say can only do 30 frames per second when recording video and a competing phone can say do 60 frames, they always say things like "why would you need more than 30 frames per second". When a new version of an iPhone comes out with 100 frames per second recording, this is what they suddenly rant on about as a reason why the iPhone is better. Honestly, in no uncertain terms you people are brainwashed and ultimately you are embarrassing yourselves.

Iridium said,
Ive noticed something very cultist with Apple users. If the iPhone say can only do 30 frames per second when recording video and a competing phone can say do 60 frames, they always say things like "why would you need more than 30 frames per second". When a new version of an iPhone comes out with 100 frames per second recording, this is what they suddenly rant on about as a reason why the iPhone is better. Honestly, in no uncertain terms you people are brainwashed and ultimately you are embarrassing yourselves.

We'll see how much cultist Android users bolster PPI once the Nexus Prime is out... Today, PPI doesn't matter to Android users. Tomorrow it will be a big deal.

It goes both ways.

Iridium said,
Ive noticed something very cultist with Apple users. If the iPhone say can only do 30 frames per second when recording video and a competing phone can say do 60 frames, they always say things like "why would you need more than 30 frames per second". When a new version of an iPhone comes out with 100 frames per second recording, this is what they suddenly rant on about as a reason why the iPhone is better. Honestly, in no uncertain terms you people are brainwashed and ultimately you are embarrassing yourselves.

Having been a PC user for 18 years, and also having used Windows Mobile 6.1, Android (Nexus One), and Symbian phones, now having migrated everything to the Apple ecosystem after getting fed up with crap that just didn't work, I have to say, I'm a MUCH happier camper!

Apple products are by NO MEANS perfect. Just like anything made by man, they have flaws. But on a whole, they run MUCH better, and work together far better than anything I had in the world.

This rapid comparison by Samsung to make themselves look better in front of the iPhone 4S is just childish at best. The 4S is NOT the best phone on the market, but it's a damned good one, and Apple should be proud of themselves for developing it.

Having looked at, and used a Galaxy S II, I personally feel that IT is a total rip off of iOS (interface and hardware), and I personally hope Apple wins this fight and get Samsung to stop leaning on the success of others to make their own.

-=MagMan=- said,

Having looked at, and used a Galaxy S II, I personally feel that IT is a total rip off of iOS (interface and hardware), and I personally hope Apple wins this fight and get Samsung to stop leaning on the success of others to make their own.

You mean after you look at the slide down notification in Android?

Shadrack said,

We'll see how much cultist Android users bolster PPI once the Nexus Prime is out... Today, PPI doesn't matter to Android users. Tomorrow it will be a big deal.

It goes both ways.

Im not an android fanboy though. I personally like WP7 is the most. The latest android is very nice but still after my experiences with the 2.x range im still wary of android. However, I honestly do not see the android community acting like the Apple community. Android people are excited about the prospects of an open source community driven mobile OS. As they should be, its an exciting prospect. They don't get wet at the prospect of one company owning them. So dude of "18 years" enjoy your locked in lifestyle. Honestly, if you found PC's hard you must be lacking in the intelligence department.

roadwarrior said,
Not that it is that huge of a deal, but didn't Samsung just lose their case about calling the SGSII thinner than the iPhone? So the dimensions they show here for their own phone are incorrect.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/...030,00.asp#fbid=eEaRtdZt9Ms

Yup. It doesn't make any sense to measure the thinnest point and call it the thinnest phone. If that were the case, we would have phone manufacturers adding stupid tiny tabs to their phones just so they could report their specs of their phone as being 1 mm thick. Dishonest.

Also Samsung clearly thinks T-Mobile > Verizon...

They got 4G, they should have just made a giant poster that says "We have 4G and the iPhone does not" and left it at that. The rest of this comparison chart makes it seem like they are wearing an ass as a hat.

Shadrack said,

Yup. It doesn't make any sense to measure the thinnest point and call it the thinnest phone. If that were the case, we would have phone manufacturers adding stupid tiny tabs to their phones just so they could report their specs of their phone as being 1 mm thick. Dishonest.

Also Samsung clearly thinks T-Mobile > Verizon...

They got 4G, they should have just made a giant poster that says "We have 4G and the iPhone does not" and left it at that. The rest of this comparison chart makes it seem like they are wearing an ass as a hat.

The MAJORITY of the SGS2 is thinner than the iPhone, with a tiny bit of it being thicker... it makes no sense to call the iPhone thinner than the SGS2.

Hardcore Til I Die said,

The MAJORITY of the SGS2 is thinner than the iPhone, with a tiny bit of it being thicker... it makes no sense to call the iPhone thinner than the SGS2.

It looks like you're trying to use fanboy logic to win an argument. Let me assist you with that...

The iPhone 4's thickest point is smaller than the SGS2's thickest point. The iPhone 4's thickness is uniformed, while the SGS2's varies, making the iPhone 4 the thinnest overall.

oopppss, I didn't help your case any.

Rudy said,
Yet most people will opt for the iPhone 4S
I know I will. I'm pretty disillusioned with gigantic screens, but the real dealbreaker for me? Android. It really feels like Linux on a phone to me, and that's not good.

Seems they missed wireless sync for iOS 5 on the chart. I don't know how that happened since it is one of the famous "new features" of iOS 5.

Oh please, Apple were comparing constantly in their keynote. Though interestingly, Apple did not have the SII in any comparisons except the camera speed.

SG2 has a nice screen but the camera in the iphone 4s kicks the crap out of samsung. I hope the nexus prime has a better camera.

Melfster said,
SG2 has a nice screen but the camera in the iphone 4s kicks the crap out of samsung. I hope the nexus prime has a better camera.

Used it already?

Definitely wouldn't trade my SGS2 for a iPhone 4S even if they were both running Android. I do like Android better than iOS but i love Apple hardware as well, but in this case I still think Samsung has better hardware. The backlight CMOS is nice for a camera but i don't really depend on my phone to be my main cam, that said the Samsung one takes brilliant pictures too!

Enron said,
I wonder which phone will be the SGS2 killer? It's not the 4S, that's for sure.

It's successor model which won't be too far away.

Enron said,
I wonder which phone will be the SGS2 killer? It's not the 4S, that's for sure.
I think the SGS2 still has to prove itself as the iPhone 4 killer before we can start talking about it being an iPhone 4S killer.

Elliott said,
I think the SGS2 still has to prove itself as the iPhone 4 killer before we can start talking about it being an iPhone 4S killer.

I'm still waiting on that iPod killer...

The SGS2 in particular the i9100 beats the 4S in all aspects. Even the screen who cares about retina displays resolution when compared to SAMOLED+ colour vibrancy viewing angles etc there's just no comparison it beats it hands down. Apple is now in a position of playing catch up and are probably going to fall further and further behind and rely on technology politics like patents and stifling competition instead of innovation to move forward or even backwards dare I say.

Wait, what? IPhone has a dedicated camera button? Since when the volume button means dedicated camera button? Samsung can also write 2 lines of code and make that available on their phone also.

Adrian0E said,
Wait, what? IPhone has a dedicated camera button? Since when the volume button means dedicated camera button? Samsung can also write 2 lines of code and make that available on their phone also.

Maybe not a dedicated button...not sure why anyone would want an extra button JUST for snapping photos (but I think some WP7 phones have it). It is just an incredibly short amount of time to go from lock screen to snapping a photo now with iOS 5 on iPhone 4 and 4s. Apple listened well to customer feedback. I'm going to love using it.

Shadrack said,
It is just an incredibly short amount of time to go from lock screen to snapping a photo now with iOS 5 on iPhone 4 and 4s. Apple couldn't take the ribbing from the Windows Phone team during their 7.0 Launch, and made the change.

Fixed it for ya!

Actually, "true 4G" would be LTE, as WiMAX is very nice and so, but its worldwide usage is and will be very limited.

And the screen size is no argument for better or worse, as it depends on what users need, and probably as many want a smaller size screen as others a larger size screen.

My opinion: none is better as the other, they are similar in perfomance and capabilities, and both have advantages and disadvantages, but both are great high level phones. A matter of taste at the end.

Islander said,
Actually, "true 4G" would be LTE, as WiMAX is very nice and so, but its worldwide usage is and will be very limited.

And the screen size is no argument for better or worse, as it depends on what users need, and probably as many want a smaller size screen as others a larger size screen.

My opinion: none is better as the other, they are similar in perfomance and capabilities, and both have advantages and disadvantages, but both are great high level phones. A matter of taste at the end.

LTE ADVANCED is the true 4G

LTE = 3.9G

Siri is a feature I really want after seeing it at the Apple keynote. I hope Android gets something as good because right now I'd not buy any Android phone due to that one feature alone.

Vice said,
Siri is a feature I really want after seeing it at the Apple keynote. I hope Android gets something as good because right now I'd not buy any Android phone due to that one feature alone.

vlingo does it all already and it's built in to the SGS2, so eh if you really want to talk to yourself with your phone displaying results you can but it's not that great.

Digitalx said,
....

Siri is MORE than vlingo. Siri even makes Microsoft's TellMe look weak.

Siri is an evolution of an Audio Natural User Interface that others should try to strive to achieve the same quality.

dotf said,

Siri is MORE than vlingo. Siri even makes Microsoft's TellMe look weak.

Siri is an evolution of an Audio Natural User Interface that others should try to strive to achieve the same quality.

And was available as an app on the iPhone 4 and 3GS before being bought by Apple and now a 4S feature only.

I think both are great phones, and currently making the best of the respective mobile operating systems, but I think it's a bit embarrasing with these kind of defensive comparisons. They're silly too, since e.g. the camera comparison only takes omgmegapixalz into account, not optical qualities. I also have to smile at "latest version of Gingerbread" being highlighted, but "latest version of iOS" being not, and even worse with the screen resolution where the 4S is actually leading. Oh well. It's marketing of course, and I understand Samsung trying hard. I just think a company inspires more confidence in themselves if they leave the comparison and reviews to... the reviewers. And let their products speak for themselves on their product pages. I'd feel similarly embarrased if Apple felt an urge to start comparing themselves with Samsung and Dell laptops.

John. said,
How have they chosen Gingerbread as being better than iOS? Surely that's subjective?

iOS 5 is better than Android. I just said it, therefore Samsung are wrong...

John. said,
How have they chosen Gingerbread as being better than iOS? Surely that's subjective?

Well it's what Samsung use right? You didn't expect them to be objective were you?
Screen size is also very subjective isn't it? But they marked larger as better...

Then look out how everything the Galaxy SII wins is clearly marked while nothing the iPhone is marked...
The iPhones higher resolution, better camera (ok we don't have any good comparisons but just by what they list the back one has more features), Hardware camera button.
And lets be honest the iOS App Store is better than the ones on Android and the Amazon one which is the only decent one except for the Google on on android is US only.

The HDTV remote thing only applies to a select few of Samsungs TVs, the iPhone could be used to control an Apple TV or any computer with iTunes, while not HDTVs I'd say that's pretty comparable... And then of course there is the fact that there is the Samsung Remote app for iPhone in the App Store among several other apps from other TV or Digital Box manufacturers so that "No" should obviously have been a blue "Yes"...

It's clearly a bit biased, hardly unexpected though, any manufacturer releasing such a comparison would do the same, not marking others as winners or leaving out stats where the competition is a clear winner, pretty usual stuff.

Anyone know what "1080p High Profile" is?

John. said,
How have they chosen Gingerbread as being better than iOS? Surely that's subjective?

Exactly, personally I prefer Gingerbread myself!!

boo_star said,

It eems to offer higher frame rates.

Not sure why you'd need higher than 30FPS with on-the-fly image stabilization.

neo158 said,

Exactly, personally I prefer Gingerbread myself!!

Opposite for me. Android still needs work. I can't see myself buying another Android phone any time soon.

It really comes down to choice of OS, not so much hardware.

Also, doesn't the iPhone 4S not require iTunes? iPhone 4S also has Vlingo.

DukeEsquire said,
It really comes down to choice of OS, not so much hardware.

Also, doesn't the iPhone 4S not require iTunes? iPhone 4S also has Vlingo.


Well it might be that they are saying you need it to sync? But even then that's not true as you can sync a lot trough iCloud now...
Besides iTunes is a much better software for syncing that kies is if you actually would want to sync, kies can only handle pictures, music and it's own poor and small podcast library, there is no proper app, backup, calendar, contact and so on syncing options in kies.

Then there's Vlingo, not sure about the US one but the European Galaxy SII sure doesn't come with Vlingo pre-installed and as you said it's also available for iOS so a pretty bad comparision

Leonick said,

Then there's Vlingo, not sure about the US one but the European Galaxy SII sure doesn't come with Vlingo pre-installed and as you said it's also available for iOS so a pretty bad comparision

My O2 UK SGS II came with Vlingo Voice Activation pre-installed.

Hidr0 said,
Thats the good old SGS II... cant wait for the new SGS III

I must admit I don't see the logic behind this release. If this is supposed to be THE Google/Samsung flagship phone, shouldn't they have released it first? It appears to be a fairly minor (hardware) upgrade compared to the SGS2; whereas as the SGS3 will surely blow this out of the water in 4-6 months.

Jeex said,
....

Google Nexus is flagship Android set (by Samsung)
SGSII is Samsung's flagship Android set.

iPhone 4S is Apple's flagship ripoff of other successful mobile OSes'

Although the iPhone 4S has a smaller screen, it has a higher resolution (960x640 vs. 800x480). I personally think the Galaxy S II is better thanks to its Super AMOLED display.

Anaron said,
Although the iPhone 4S has a smaller screen, it has a higher resolution (960x640 vs. 800x480). I personally think the Galaxy S II is better thanks to its Super AMOLED display.

Anaron said,
Although the iPhone 4S has a smaller screen, it has a higher resolution (960x640 vs. 800x480). I personally think the Galaxy S II is better thanks to its Super AMOLED display.

Super AMOLED PLUS!

For me it's the other way around, I've compared it with both my iPhone 4 and my Galaxy Tab 7, after that I can tell you I'll keep to devices with an LCD screen that can display colours properly.

Leonick said,
For me it's the other way around, I've compared it with both my iPhone 4 and my Galaxy Tab 7, after that I can tell you I'll keep to devices with an LCD screen that can display colours properly.

You managed to get a Galaxy Tab, where from. I thought Apple would have had sales banned worldwide by now!!

Leonick said,
.....

Tab7 uses SuperAMOLED which does have a problem displaying certain gradients / alpha channels.

SuperAMOLED+ resolves the colour banding isssue which you elude to here.

Dead'Soul said,

i am not sure, but NExus Prime may be a tablet ?
This not even rumoured, that it may be a tablet!