Silverlight is far from dead, coming to Xbox [Update]

Despite rumors that Microsoft's Silverlight platform was going to be left behind based on IE9's push for HTML 5, the Silverlight team is still hard at work on bringing the web technology to all platforms. 

Microsoft has put out a job advertisement asking for a software development engineer to help bring the technology to Microsoft's Xbox 360. Silverlight has been put into full use on Microsoft's own site and is finding a place among the web media world. The technology is also the developmental basis of Windows Phone 7, although only applications, not the web plugins run Silverlight.

Bringing the Silverlight platform to the Xbox 360 will complete the implementation on all Microsoft products. This addition will also bring the Xbox 360 and Windows Phone 7 closer as now both will support XNA and Silverlight, further allowing for games and other applications to have a true cross-platform compatibility.

Opening up the Xbox 360 in this way may help bring new and unique content to the system while at the same time allow a larger userbase to code for the platform. The job desciption specifically mentions the partners that use Silverlight and seem to suggest that Microsoft is looking for a way to bring more services instead of just games to their console, creating a media center and entertainment set-top box.

Soon Microsoft may be able to start selling their Xbox 360 game console as more of a set top box, while still promoting the vast game ability, which may be provoked by the recent influx of new TV platforms. 

Integration all around and unifying a code base will allow the maximum number of developers to get started on applications and provide content to Microsoft's products.

Update: It seems that the job posting at Microsoft has been modified and the content specifically mentioning the Xbox has been removed and replaced with "targeting more devices." WMPoweruser still however has the original job description up that mentions the Xbox support. 

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i was working in a project using silverlight and it is useless for most serious project.

1)Silverlight 4 is buggy at best, it suffer from a pretty annoying memory leak (a single project can use over 1gb of ram in no time).

2)It is not trivial to load a module and it is impossible to unload it, think in a site developed using silverlight, you open a page then it reside on memory, then if you open another then the last one is still on memory..

3)it is painful slow (some task) in comparison with flash.

Apparently Silverlight is abandoning the desktop and is moving to mobile.

Magallanes said,
i was working in a project using silverlight and it is useless for most serious project.

1)Silverlight 4 is buggy at best, it suffer from a pretty annoying memory leak (a single project can use over 1gb of ram in no time).

2)It is not trivial to load a module and it is impossible to unload it, think in a site developed using silverlight, you open a page then it reside on memory, then if you open another then the last one is still on memory..

3)it is painful slow (some task) in comparison with flash.

Apparently Silverlight is abandoning the desktop and is moving to mobile.

If you're finding Silverlight slow and having memory leaks - you're doing it wrong. I can manage to create interfaces with lots of listbox items swishing around in 3D and random other things animating around as well as doing background tasks, whilst still getting a pretty smooth frame rate. Now silverlight on the mobile - as well as being a version behid, has sub-par performance, and you're told to not use many of the cool features that silverlight presents you as they detriment performance too much. Silverlight is very much at home on the desktop - I though you should probably look around at Silverlight performance tips though.

Why exactly is it needed?
I mean... You cannot use it for browsing and anything else... It's not like I have a 5GB library of SL files that I'd love to test on the 360, then again: capabilities added is always nice, just don't see the need or use.
I'd be glad if someone gave me a good example.

GS:mac

Glassed Silver said,
Why exactly is it needed?
I mean... You cannot use it for browsing and anything else... It's not like I have a 5GB library of SL files that I'd love to test on the 360, then again: capabilities added is always nice, just don't see the need or use.
I'd be glad if someone gave me a good example.

GS:mac

Silverlight isn't just a plugin software - it's a proper application framework too. You can write entire desktop programs in Silverlight if you wanted, it's not just about playing videos. Basically, we could use to write desktop style applications for the 360, similar to Google TV apps (or Apple TV?).

SL isn't dead, it's only growing for anything other than websites.

http://team.silverlight.net/an...cement/pdc-and-silverlight/

"The interview was accurately reported. I understand that what I said surprised people and caused controversy and confusion. As this certainly wasn't my intent, I want to apologize for that. I'd like to use this post to expand on what I said, and talk about the very important role Silverlight has going forward.

"... In the interview, I said several things that I want to emphasize:

1. Silverlight is very important and strategic to Microsoft.
2. We're working hard on the next release of Silverlight, and it will continue to be cross-browser and cross-platform, and run on Windows and Mac.
3. Silverlight is a core application development platform for Windows, and it's the development platform for Windows Phone."

i really dont see IE9's adaptability towards HTML 5 the death of silverlight...i mean MS cant just ignore HTML5 when releasing IE9...honestly...its like not providing the call feature in a phone. they realized what the market wants (currently) and they implemented that. where is the dificulty in understanding that? silverlight will continue behind its bigger figure of HTML5 until it provides what the market needs...mkay?

I was wondering if/when Microsoft would make this thing worth a ****. I guess I have my answer now. Might be cool to see what they can do with it on the Xbox.

Silverlight will also be extensively used in the Web Console of the next version of System Center Operations Manager.

HTML5 can't do DRM and isn't really able to create online applications and games very well, flash and silverlight are great at these. flash is slow as hell therefore there is room in the market for silverlight. obviously html5 is the best for option for video, flash and canvas are great for banner ads but for applications html5 just doesn't cut it.

cybertimber2008 said,
Thank you. I'm not sure how many times ^ has to be said before people stop saying HTML5 will kill flash/silverlight.
Indeed. There will always be things Flash and Silverlight can do that HTML5/JavaScript just plain can't.

Will their role decrease? Sure... But it won't disappear.

Edrick Smith said,
What rumors are there that silverlight is dead?

They believe HTML5 is the future, still, which will ultimately replace Flash and Silverlight.

There has also been a huge slow down on releases from the Silverlight team in the past few months.

Andrew Lyle said,

They believe HTML5 is the future, still, which will ultimately replace Flash and Silverlight.

There has also been a huge slow down on releases from the Silverlight team in the past few months.

Well they only do one release a year, and that's usually in March - April, so nothing to worry about *whistles*.

As it happens there's also a "future of Silverlight" event being held by Microsoft in the next month, so we'll probably learn some stuff there - probably to do with Silverlight 5, and them making Silverlight on WP7 suck a little less for us developers >.< (Not that it sucks per sé, there's just a lot of performance problems and missing phone controls that aren't built into the framework)

Andrew Lyle said,

They believe HTML5 is the future, still, which will ultimately replace Flash and Silverlight.

There has also been a huge slow down on releases from the Silverlight team in the past few months.

True, but if people have been paying attention they will see Microsoft moving Silverlight to another direction.

HTML5 has limits, and this is where something like Silverlight will still have a role at least for a while.

Silverlight has been making the progession from a Browser add-in technology to a full platform. This is why the latest releases brought desktop applications and we see things like the WP7 phone use it as the main OS platform for even its own UI.

If you pay close attention as Silverlight was being brought along, you will see key changes in the design 'concepts' of the product, from a light version of WPF, to something that will be essentially be a portable WPF with most of the bells and whistles. The only thing it won't get is the WPF's backend that depends on the WDDM GPU scheduling technologies.

Silverlight was never dead or dying, even if you take 1.x, it was mainly designed for handling video with some vector drawing abilities using the new development approach that came with XAML and a true object orientied model. (In constrast other similar technologies like Apple's Cocoa are only Object 'Based' UI API sets.) It progressed in the next release to having a full control set, and on to agnostic codec support with more GPU acceleration that is getting close to what WPF does.

So in the future look for Silverlight to be more of what WPF is and the new face of .NET UI development that is portable and less of a just a browser add-in.

Huh? Where in that job advert does it even mention Xbox. First of all the job is for a role in the Server & Tools Business business, nothing to do with Xbox. Second of all it primarily mentions Windows, Mac and Windows Phone 7.

FarCry3r said,
Imagine in the (not so) near future, we'll have WP7-like UI on Xbox, w00t~

i think the kinect hub already looks like a horizontal replica of the WP7 interface. just sayin'.

Even though this probably should've been done a long time ago, this is still pretty sweet news. Now if I could stop being lazy and at least get a working version of my first WP7 app I'd be good.

Neo003 said,
I'm wondering why the hell it took them this long to bring SL to 360.
No kidding, it should have been done long ago.

Neo003 said,
I'm wondering why the hell it took them this long to bring SL to 360.

Yes, but I would also say I don't understand how MS porting the partform to another one of its own devices makes it "far from dead." If they put MS Bob on the xbox could the same be said about him?