‘Six Strikes' policy delayed until 2013

What is ‘Six Strikes’? To be honest, unless you’ve been living under a rock for the past 18 months, as a US citizen, you’re bound to have heard of this effort. We first reported that the movie and music industries had successfully lobbied some of the biggest ISPs in the country to sign up to a voluntary agreement to crack down on copyright infringement and piracy.

The program would give the end user six strikes (hence the name) before more serious action would be taken against them. Imagine getting a letter from either your ISP or the copyright holder saying cease and desist all downloading and sharing of our property; that’s strike one there. And so on, until strike six is hit.

The proposed start date of July 2012 came and went, but ‘Six Strikes’ failed to materialise. By the end of the year was pencilled in as the date of the programs commencement. But rumours started to circulate that the delay would run into the New Year. Well, that’s exactly what’s happened, with “the early part of 2013” being scheduled in to the Center for Copyright Administration’s calendar; they are administering the program.

Claims that “unexpected factors largely stemming from Hurricane Sandy” are to blame are the official reasons for the delay, but whispers have this pegged as an excuse for other problems. Basically, the program was not ready to be implemented, at least in the state it was in.

But, regardless of ‘Six Strikes’ readiness, it is set to come into play at some point. It’s then both the ISPs and the entertainment industry as a whole that will proceed to seriously irk their best customers.

It's voluntary though

No matter what way you look at this, someone is going to be put out. The ISPs only signed up on a voluntary basis; if their customer base starts to dwindle, they are entitled to jump ship. In turn, the entertainment industry will cry foul and say not enough is being done, all from the comfort of their very, very well paid legal team’s penmanship.

It’s a vicious cycle. Many people argue that the music industry is still clinging onto archaic business practices and should be working with the technology at their disposal to improve the services they offer users. The music, film and television industries argue that downloading hurts their sales, box office return and viewing figures respectively, and that file sharing is killing the industry (much like home taping killed the music industry?). The ISPs say they shouldn’t have to police the internet, and that their users privacy should remain just that.

So whenever ‘Six Strikes’ goes live, will it really make a difference to your browsing and downloading habits? Or more importantly, if enough of you switch ISPs because of the MPAA or RIAA hassle, will the ISPs start to question their involvement?

Source: Techdirt

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The industry would have a no strike policy, if they could enforce any strike at all! Desperately clinging to an antiquated business model and hiring an army of mercenaries (lawyers) to try to muscle the global population has not worked and will continue to be a failed business strategy.

t's only a question of how much time, but the failure of the legacy media industry is well underway!

People will only pay for value and do business with parties they trust:

http://nwzpaper.com/articleView?articleId=68
http://nwzpaper.com/articleView?articleId=79

i dont have a problem with a 10 year old from low income family downloading a few songs or an application that would help him learn an study .. its time for those sheep to shut up and stop defending ugly corporations

Sabah El Fol said,
i dont have a problem with a 10 year old from low income family downloading a few songs or an application that would help him learn an study .. its time for those sheep to shut up and stop defending ugly corporations

Google slippery slope.

Yeah... This blows. Though I'm not from the states but Canada has instituted a bill that basically ruins the internet up here. It is called Bill-C11 and now I'm using a VPN (Torguard) to protect my privacy on the internet. It runs fast and good

Neztea said,
Yeah... This blows. Though I'm not from the states but Canada has instituted a bill that basically ruins the internet up here. It is called Bill-C11 and now I'm using a VPN (Torguard) to protect my privacy on the internet. It runs fast and good

what are you gonna do if the RCMP walk into the VPN's offices and seize the computers but leave them on for data / evidence collection ?
what you think i just made up the idea ? the precedent has already been set..
in other words it has already happened before many times in similar situations.

why do SO MANY people keep pouring money into someone else for the illusion of security ?
if you all took the money your paying for VPN service plans you could probably have enough money to bribe politicians to do what ever you want lol

i tell ya i'm gonna have fun with the "I told you so's" when the arrests start rolling in..

history tells us that officials will not ignore popular piracy methods.
so they will come after vpn's (i think it has already started)
so why do we think VPN services are bullet proof ?
the law is the law and if any site on the face of the earth minus a few like TPB
will comply in heart beat to whatever is asked of them and the people associated as history has shown us will flip on you and rat you out so fast your head will spin !

this i spend money so i can't be arrested crap gets old.. as much as i support piracy i'm actually looking forward to smug people being taken down a peg or two.
there is often a wall of vile attitude that comes with VPN users.. they lecture people
like they are all idiots and losers if they don't use them etc

i think thats all BS since statistically you have one chance in like 10 million if u live in the US elsewhere its like one chance in 500 million of getting sued by riaa or junk

I am Not PCyr said,

what are you gonna do if the RCMP walk into the VPN's offices and seize the computers but leave them on for data / evidence collection ?
what you think i just made up the idea ? the precedent has already been set..
in other words it has already happened before many times in similar situations.

why do SO MANY people keep pouring money into someone else for the illusion of security ?
if you all took the money your paying for VPN service plans you could probably have enough money to bribe politicians to do what ever you want lol

i tell ya i'm gonna have fun with the "I told you so's" when the arrests start rolling in..

history tells us that officials will not ignore popular piracy methods.
so they will come after vpn's (i think it has already started)
so why do we think VPN services are bullet proof ?
the law is the law and if any site on the face of the earth minus a few like TPB
will comply in heart beat to whatever is asked of them and the people associated as history has shown us will flip on you and rat you out so fast your head will spin !

this i spend money so i can't be arrested crap gets old.. as much as i support piracy i'm actually looking forward to smug people being taken down a peg or two.
there is often a wall of vile attitude that comes with VPN users.. they lecture people
like they are all idiots and losers if they don't use them etc

You do realize you can VPN services with exit servers based outside of US who by no means have to abide by US laws right? Having said that some VPN services do not store data but only your payment records (circumstantial evidence).

Well but hey, you seem to think otherwise. I suggest you do some research prio giving misguided information.

People who don't pirate stuff are too happy to give away their freedoms
until they are entangled in BS about the laws that would never apply to them..
cry and bitch all you want when your are in trouble because someone else did something
that got you in to trouble like for example your router is open and your neigbour downloaded a movie or 2 or 6 lol or you run a cafe and your clients were downloading lots of porn.

Me ? Hell ya i steal stuff.. its fun
look down on me all ya want i won't lose any sleep over it.
i get the feeling a few BILLION people agree with me too
and our combined power is something to be reckoned with

I am Not PCyr said,
People who don't pirate stuff are too happy to give away their freedoms
until they are entangled in BS about the laws that would never apply to them..
cry and bitch all you want when your are in trouble because someone else did something
that got you in to trouble like for example your router is open and your neigbour downloaded a movie or 2 or 6 lol or you run a cafe and your clients were downloading lots of porn.

Me ? Hell ya i steal stuff.. its fun
look down on me all ya want i won't lose any sleep over it.
i get the feeling a few BILLION people agree with me too
and our combined power is something to be reckoned with

Careful your parents don't see you posting stuff like this, they might take away your internet.

FrozenEclipse said,

Careful your parents don't see you posting stuff like this, they might take away your internet.

i'm 37.

careful you get caught making up crap on the internet lol

by the way thanks for the insightful and intelligent discussion about a sensitive topic like ADULTS do.
Oops wait ..that didn't happen lol
I said some stuff in a specific and constructive manner and i got a classic stereo typical neowin smart ass one liner reply.. yeah your maturity sure put me in my place lol

you fail son lol

We need a 2 strike policy to ban politicians from having a say if they offend the Human Rights and want to touch the internet in bad ways.

GS:mac

este said,

Not paying for something like that, sorry. I assume you use it though? If so, what makes it likeable?

It comes free with Giganews usenet - my reason.

Crisp said,

It comes free with Giganews usenet - my reason.

You do realize that they are the biggest loggin VPN service out there right? I have the service but I don't trust them one bit after what I've read about them. I posted on Giganews' newsgroup about it and they never even responded.

ThunderRiver said,
I don't always participate in illegal activities, but when I do, I VPN the **** out of it.

good thing too because of the law exemptions for vpn service companies..
we all know that if for example the VPN comapny xyz was ordered by the FBI
to do [insert any activity] then the VPN could jsut say NO i don't wanna..
Rather than comply with the law like everyone else DOES.
So those logs they all so they don't keep wouldn't be read by any cops.
and the vpn servers could never be hijacked by officials for evidence collection..
All this is police stuff is just impossible because of the systems employed by VPN co's
it's not like any vpn's would say whatever to get your money.. and they would ofcourse email you or phone you RIGHT AWAY the minute they get court orders to comply with the FBI..

money well spent i'm sure....

I am Not PCyr said,

good thing too because of the law exemptions for vpn service companies..
we all know that if for example the VPN comapny xyz was ordered by the FBI
to do [insert any activity] then the VPN could jsut say NO i don't wanna..
Rather than comply with the law like everyone else DOES.
So those logs they all so they don't keep wouldn't be read by any cops.
and the vpn servers could never be hijacked by officials for evidence collection..
All this is police stuff is just impossible because of the systems employed by VPN co's
it's not like any vpn's would say whatever to get your money.. and they would ofcourse email you or phone you RIGHT AWAY the minute they get court orders to comply with the FBI..

money well spent i'm sure....

Drinking too much sarcasm-flavored cool-aid lately? What do you have to lose with at most $40 a year? You probably drink more Starbucks or buy more Xbox game than just $40 a year.

6? Why not 1, or 10, or 100 strikes?

They are admitting that it's either hard to police or make the crime primishable. Hoping that people will be scared off by the sixth warning?

If I do everything legally, why would it make me want to switch ISPs? I must not be understanding this article correctly? It seems as though this is directed towards people or download things illegally?

Neobond said,
I think it implies that I might prefer to pay an ISP that respects my privacy? I dunno?
Expecting privacy is fine, but is it really an invasion of privacy when they have some sort of automated process to detect if you are going to known illegal sites? I don't know if they have an automatted process but it's safe to assume that they do.

Mainer82 said,
is it really an invasion of privacy when they have some sort of automated process to detect if you are going to known illegal sites?.

Kind of, yeah.

Mainer82 said,
Expecting privacy is fine, but is it really an invasion of privacy when they have some sort of automated process to detect if you are going to known illegal sites? I don't know if they have an automatted process but it's safe to assume that they do.

Its not illegal to visit a website that may have something illegal to download. It's just illegal to download it. They should have to know what you downloaded and why it was illegal for you to download. If you are on an unencrypted connection, this is probably trivial. If you are downloading through an encrypted connection, all they have is circumstantial evidence (i.e., you visited this web site known for hosting illegal content but we don't know exactly what you did).

Mainer82 said,
Expecting privacy is fine, but is it really an invasion of privacy when they have some sort of automated process to detect if you are going to known illegal sites? I don't know if they have an automatted process but it's safe to assume that they do.

yes...

Shadrack said,

Its not illegal to visit a website that may have something illegal to download. It's just illegal to download it. They should have to know what you downloaded and why it was illegal for you to download. If you are on an unencrypted connection, this is probably trivial. If you are downloading through an encrypted connection, all they have is circumstantial evidence (i.e., you visited this web site known for hosting illegal content but we don't know exactly what you did).

except in all those countries where it was proclaimed illegal to visit certain sites and blocks were implemented. I would advise you to search on google for the keywords "Pirate Bay" and "Unblock"

I am Not PCyr said,

except in all those countries where it was proclaimed illegal to visit certain sites and blocks were implemented. I would advise you to search on google for the keywords "Pirate Bay" and "Unblock"

That's called censorship, and only evil countries practice censorship. If your county is practicing censorship you don't live in a free country.

Mainer82 said,
Expecting privacy is fine, but is it really an invasion of privacy when they have some sort of automated process to detect.

Yes it is.