Tim Cook shows that Apple needs Windows to build a Mac Pro

Tim Cook earlier today tweeted a photo showing the assembly line for the company’s flagship Mac, the Mac Pro. The PR move highlighted that the computers are built here in America but there was one little oddity that is turning this photo back on Apple.

If you look closely at the Mac mounted above the worker, you can clearly see that it is running Windows. So, what you have here is a Mac Pro being built with the help of Windows that is running on an iMac.

Sure, it’s not really that big of a deal as Mac’s are not really known to be part of a major warehouse operation but it is a bit funny to see the CEO of Apple tweet out a competitors OS. For Apple, this is a small PR goof-up that is a rarity for the company who works diligently to control the message it sends out to the world.

That’s not all the CEO was up to today, either, He went to a call center and listened in as his Apple Care team worked with customers as well. We do wonder if Tim chimed in on the call but let us be honest, if you called in and Tim Cook was on the line, would you believe it’s him?

At the end of the day, Apple still makes billions of dollars every quarter and the company will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

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Would be interesting to see where OS X runs / assists in industrial production lines. With Windows it's no surprise at all.

And for my next breathless report, I'm camping outside the Ford assembly plant and counting all the arriving delivery trucks made by Kenworth, Iveco, Mercedes-Benz, Mack, GM and Volvo.

Instead of copying one Windows feature at the time and bringing it to iProducts he decided to INNOVATE and just run Windows on it. Up next: iPhone 6 will run on WP8.1.

francescob said,
This is almost as shocking as the rumors about Tim Cook having windows in his house!

I heard he lived in an Apple tree house

"so, what you have here is a Mac Pro being built with the help of Windows that is running on an iMac."

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
I'm not a fanboy of anything but that was soo funny and ironic

merandus said,
"so, what you have here is a Mac Pro being built with the help of Windows that is running on an iMac."

that's evolution for you....

I hardly think this should be surprising - their design team most likely use Solidworks which is only available on Windows, their cloud services are either running a *NIX or Windows for the backend or some sort of custom build of FreeBSD. You'd be surprised how many companies use each others products because no one has a monopoly over all but are strong in certain niches - in the case of Windows it has always been software availability thus Apple uses Windows in those areas.

Download the Windows 8 evaluation ISO and you'll see your browser connecting with Akaimai which uses Linux servers. No clue if technet is distributed through the same channels.
Windows 7 ISO's on microsoft.com were from akaimai as well. People even made fun of Microsoft using Linux to distribute their OS.

Shadowzz said,
People even made fun of Microsoft using Linux to distribute their OS.

Microsoft used a third party to distribute their OS, who just happened to use Linux. Akamai isn't owned or operated by Microsoft. Silly comparison, especially considering how wildly successful Azure is, they don't need it.

Shadowzz: yes, like I thought, you made it up, Microsoft doesn't use Linux servers to distribute Windows ISOs, or anything else, for that matter. Third parties like Akamai are not Microsoft.

CJEric said,
looks like XP to me. Wouldn't surprise me either, in a factory context

Hmmm. Check again. If you can see, that blue isn't Luna's theme from XP. It looks like Aero Glass.

Furthermore, if you zoom quickly you can see the bigger taskbar on it. What I can't distinguish is if it's Windows Explorer the first item pinned.

Let's face it, no matter how much anyone hates window's platform, there's no denying that we rely on that OS.

BSOD, Crashes, window 8, Vista, including yup XP, we all use them.

I think Apple and MS are strategically aligned right now, both companies want to limit Google's ambitions.

I'm with them on this as well, can't stand the company right now and while I'm also the least likely to jump to mac from my lovely windows eco system I do think they make quality stuff. Google is like a silicon valley juggernaut and they can simply do no wrong (or evil) to a lot of people while being the most Childish and non co-operative it company I can think of.

Who cares? I bet Microsoft needs macs to make Office for OSX too.

Rivals use each others products. It's not a big deal, and I'm sure Tim Cook doesn't give two ######.

Windows and MacOS are not competing OS's.

You can not buy MacOS. Apple sells hardware, which is licensed to run MacOS, but the OS itself is not sold (apart from upgrades).

Wish people writing these things would get that threw their heads. Apple competes with Dell and HP far more than with MS.

Ryoken said,
Windows and MacOS are not competing OS's.

You can not buy MacOS. Apple sells hardware, which is licensed to run MacOS, but the OS itself is not sold (apart from upgrades).

Wish people writing these things would get that threw their heads. Apple competes with Dell and HP far more than with MS.

and yet Tim Cooks takes time to ridicule Windows in WWDC keynotes? Therefore you're contradicting Tim Cooks himself.

Ryoken said,
Windows and MacOS are not competing OS's.

You can not buy MacOS. Apple sells hardware, which is licensed to run MacOS, but the OS itself is not sold (apart from upgrades).

Wish people writing these things would get that threw their heads. Apple competes with Dell and HP far more than with MS.

Kinda agree

Dell or HP wouldnt stand a chance against Apple without Windows. People by Dell and HP more so because they prefer Windows.

Apple is competing on 2 fronts. Hardware and OS but MS is only competing on the OS front since it relies on OEMs for hardware. But their OS is still competing with MS'

astroXP said,

and yet Tim Cooks takes time to ridicule Windows in WWDC keynotes? Therefore you're contradicting Tim Cooks himself.

Welcome to the world of business and sales.

"Apple is competing on 2 fronts. Hardware and OS but MS is only competing on the OS front since it relies on OEMs for hardware. But their OS is still competing with MS", that's Apple's fault, none elses. Also have you Heard of Surface? It kiks Mac Barbie Air's butt.

VHMP01 said,
"Apple is competing on 2 fronts. Hardware and OS but MS is only competing on the OS front since it relies on OEMs for hardware. But their OS is still competing with MS", that's Apple's fault, none elses. Also have you Heard of Surface? It kiks Mac Barbie Air's butt.

That's an opinion. Some people's needs only call for an iPad. My fiancée for example. She likes iOS, and she likes her iPad.

I don't. I like my Note 10.1.

Why is it a 'fault'. Why would Apple have an issue using a system that they are required to use?

Meh, who cares. Apple cannot do everything and neither can any other company. They want to distance themselves from each other and set themselves apart...but they all need each other.

I always get a chuckle out of people when they say, "who cares", and yet they still take the time out of their lives to post a comment on a website.

+techbeck, YOU care. Nothing wrong with that. Good post otherwise. :)

yuppppp here I am. QQ

im not surprised to see a "news editor" coming to defend their "news" another article reaching for something that isnt much and flame baiting awesome work!

Well, I am just curious since you took the time to comment on what you obviously perceive is a worthless article. I mean, if it is so, must be having a slow day yourself. No?

Nothing wrong with them using Windows to do their jobs. Just like it's nothing wrong for Microsoft to use McBook Pros. I wish these companies would get over themselves and work together more often.

Enron said,
Nothing wrong with them using Windows to do their jobs. Just like it's nothing wrong for Microsoft to use McBook Pros. I wish these companies would get over themselves and work together more often.

I suspect its more the die-hard fans/zealots that need to get over themselves :)

Enron said,
Nothing wrong with them using Windows to do their jobs. Just like it's nothing wrong for Microsoft to use McBook Pros. I wish these companies would get over themselves and work together more often.

MS & Apple are like Coke & Pepsi

Not true either, most CAD is run on Windows and for decades. Even Photoshop sells more copies on Windows than Mac, its not 90ies.

Mr.XXIV said,
But not for the design.

I'm....i'm so sorry.

Was hilarious when half my architecture class had bought macs before they started due to macs being "better for design". Then either having to use parallels or buy a PC to run Revit and other software ;)

Mr.XXIV said,
I'm not sure, dude. I'm a "quality over quantity" kind of guy. Similar to Android vs iOS opinions.

No, he's right, no advantage in quality and a disadvantage in quantity when it comes to design work. The 'I'm a designer, gotta buy a Mac' days are long gone.

Mr.XXIV said,
But not for the design.

I'm....i'm so sorry.

Most engineers probably use Windows. I know all of my favorite CAD, simulation, capture, etc software runs on it.

Mr.XXIV said,
I was talking about graphic design, WHICH I always see people on Macs.

People buy macs for graphics design now because they heard that's what they were good at back in the day when they were PowerPC's, but they switched to Intel a while back and became just like the rest of the PC's out there. :)

Mr.XXIV said,
I was talking about graphic design, WHICH I always see people on Macs.

Macs don't magically make your Photoshop skills better. They don't even make Photoshop better.

They buy Macs because they think it magically transforms them into a professional graphic designer. Just like people installing Linux because they think it makes them a l33t hax0r.

i am an industrial designer, and in most conferences and panels i have been, the consensus is that, when you go and visit a client you show up with your mac, but when doing the actual work, you turn to your pc

"I'm not sure, dude. I'm a "quality over quantity" kind of guy. Similar to Android vs iOS opinions"... So you prefer a Lumia (quality) over iPhones (quantity), right? That's why I am a funtion over eyecandy over quantity. Similar to Surface / Mac Baribie Airs opinios.

"i am an industrial designer, and in most conferences and panels i have been, the consensus is that, when you go and visit a client you show up with your mac, but when doing the actual work, you turn to your pc", hypocrits!

It's called "marketing". Hey, we're cool while we work! (We do still need to get work done, but we'll do that out of sight on something that can actually be used to run the software we need to do that work). But hey, we use Macs to browse the web, see our email, and log into our TS environment to submit your order, so we're cool! Do business with us!

I've been told this by people in the legal area as well for a few firms I've consulted for - they've got Macs when they're out of the office (usually running Word and Outlook for email, ironically), but their workstations and laptops they use while in the office, behind closed doors, is a Windows device.

Mr.XXIV said,
I was talking about graphic design, WHICH I always see people on Macs.

I am a Graphics Designer/Illustrator and I work exclusively on Windows.

Louisifer said,

People buy macs for graphics design now because they heard that's what they were good at back in the day when they were PowerPC's, but they switched to Intel a while back and became just like the rest of the PC's out there. :)

I do like the Trackpads and Screens on the Mac laptops from the past couple of years

Kind of annoys me that a lot of pc laptops thesedays still only come with 1376x768 displays :-(

Couldn't agree more. 90% of Windows laptops are low-res. Annoys the heck out of me too.

I got a pretty nice upper mid-range Vaio, 15.5-inch screen, thinner, lighter and better graphics than a MBP, plus a proper full backlit keyboard (cut down laptop keyboards drive me nuts). Includes optical drive. Half the price of MBP too. But 1366x768 screen! All it needs to be my ideal laptop is a 1080p display.

james.faction said,
Couldn't agree more. 90% of Windows laptops are low-res. Annoys the heck out of me too.

If you're only willing to pay 50% the price of a MBP, you aren't going to get all the same features. Step it up to 60% to get a full HD display.

Couldn't find one at the time I was looking, which was about 10 months ago. At the time only overpriced "premium" notebooks had a higher-res display. Costing as much or more than a MBP.

If I went to purchase now tho, I imagine the selection would be better, and still improving... far too slowly though

It's starting to be an option on some laptops but still far to many of them come with low res displays, seems crazy you can get 1080p on a phone yet most laptops haven't caught up yet.

Can understand it for the low end machines (Which are getting insanely cheap) but for Mid-High end machines not offering the option of a decent res panel seems stupid.

Mr.XXIV said,
What's funny is the Macs are moving on to 4k.

I'm waiting on the 4k Thunderbolt display (if it comes) for my Mac Mini.

Why is that funny? If you pay 70-80% as much for a PC as you do for a Mac, you will get an HD display. If you only pay half, you won't.

What's funny is that you can buy a laptop PC today with a 4K display, you can't buy a MacBook Pro with a 4K display, and you're bragging about Macs finally getting 4K.

A 4K Windows laptop is cheaper than a "retina" MacBook Pro with a lower resolution screen.

Let me know when those 4k laptops aren't thick, don't overheat, have a great camera for video, and have an OS that doesn't get bloated before it even gets delivered.

You act like, the only thing I cared about was the 4k. Also, let me know when you have an actually good recovery system and rollback like Time Machine. I don't like Windows for several reasons. 1 little advancement you compared doesn't mean anything to me. It's bad enough you're still struggling to use Thunderbolt at all.

Mr.XXIV said,
Let me know when those 4k laptops aren't thick, don't overheat, have a great camera for video, and have an OS that doesn't get bloated before it even gets delivered.

And let me know when Apple actually sells a 4k laptop. The reality is that if you want 4K, you have to get a PC. A high-end Retina MacBook Pro is only capable of powering a resolution this high via HDMI at 30 Hz (according to Apple's website).

This thing is a beast:
http://www.toshiba.com/us/comp...lite/P50/P50T-BST2N01/specs

Here's the thing. Macs haven't needed to release 4k displays before, because we never had terrible screens like the Windows desktops.


Here's another thing:

IPS, which that laptop doesn't have.
Battery life, that Toshiba only has a few hours off the cord.
Flash Storage, the Macbook's baby daddy. That thing is running a "hybrid" SATA?
The 15" Macbook currently runs 2880-by-1800. If that Macbook did run 4k, what are you to compare as far as Displays go?
What happens if the next Macbook runs more than 3.3Ghz on an i7?

Well, this whole topic has been about the "next" Macbook, so. Where are you heading?

1HDMI port. The Macbook can mount up to 2-4 displays.

Mr.XXIV said,
Here's the thing. Macs haven't needed to release 4k displays before, because we never had terrible screens like the Windows desktops.

That's hilarious. That's not a reason not to release one.


Here's another thing:

IPS, which that laptop doesn't have.

Yes, it does. That specs page doesn't list it, though.


Battery life, that Toshiba only has a few hours off the cord.

True, but it has more than twice as many pixels to push. You pay dearly for that power in battery life. I'm guessing the battery is on the small side, too.


Flash Storage, the Macbook's baby daddy. That thing is running a "hybrid" SATA?

True. I'm sure that's part of the reason why this Toshiba laptop costs $1000 less than the comparable MacBook Pro ($1599 vs $2599).


What happens if the next Macbook runs more than 3.3Ghz on an i7?

What if it starts raining ice cream? Toshiba (and the other OEMs) will up their specs next year too.

It's also a touchscreen laptop. Apple can't compete with that either.

It's not hilarious. The screens on an iDevice have always been amazing. Have you even touched a Macbook, let alone an iDevice for a long period of time?

Pay dearly my a**. The device has an additional 1k pixels, and you risk 6 hours of battery life? What kind of crap is that. There's a reason why Apple doesn't release everything first every single time, they release it for the sake of the performance of the rest of the device. Which you Windows/Android fanboys don't get. Apple takes their sweet time because they go for what we need. 4k isn't even a need, but yet we still get such a great density where we barely see pixels (at all).

What's the point of a touchscreen laptop, if you don't have that many good apps for it? Plus if it's not detachable.