Two new iPhones coming next month, fingerprint scanner and 128GB option rumored

It seems like the Apple iPhone rumors have reached a fever pitch. After reports yesterday confirmed speculation that the new model will come in a gold color, the latest news is that there will be two iPhone models coming next month. This isn't much of a surprise since rumors pointed in that direction for a while now, but news officially leaked out from Apple's supplier Hon Hai Precision Industry Co. in Asia.

The two new phones are expected to start shipping next month. As expected, there will be a high-end model and a low-end model. In the media they've been referred to as the iPhone 5S and iPhone 5C respectively, but no one has been able to confirm just yet if these are the actual names Apple plans on using. The strategy to ship a brand new low-end iPhone instead of just selling the iPhone 5 and 4S at lower prices could potentially allow Apple to bump the 4S right off the market. This would effectively get rid of all iPhones without a 4-inch display and Lightning connector.

Recent rumors have surfaced suggesting that a new feature on either one or both of the new iPhones will be a fingerprint scanner built in to the home button. The scanner would most likely serve to at least boost security, but developers would also likely find creative ways to use an API in their apps if one is released. Analysts also predict a 128GB storage option could be available for the first time with these new iPhones as well.

Source: Wall Street Journal

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i hope the 128GB version will come to all three colors also wonder how much the cost will be for under contract. my upgrade from verizon is on stand by until the iphone 5s is released.

Why not? For instance I don't like having to pattern or pin unlock my phone every time I turn it on. Hold your thumb for 1 second on Home button and voila! (assuming it works that effective, of course)

:: Lyon :: said,
Why not? For instance I don't like having to pattern or pin unlock my phone every time I turn it on. Hold your thumb for 1 second on Home button and voila! (assuming it works that effective, of course)
why do u even need any of it? Scared u going to lose your phone?

TechieXP said,
why do u even need any of it? Scared u going to lose your phone?

Well, you'll never know.. with all apps having access to your Twitter, Facebook, Gmail, Dropbox, and all that, you don't want your phone falling in the wrong hands if it gets stolen

:: Lyon :: said,

Well, you'll never know.. with all apps having access to your Twitter, Facebook, Gmail, Dropbox, and all that, you don't want your phone falling in the wrong hands if it gets stolen

I have rules with my phone, I never leave any application that requires being logged in; logged in. Contacts? Can't do much about. Fingerprint scanners only work under idea situations...IE...very clean hands, can't be cold, can't have poor blood circulation, can't be wet and can't be oily.

With all the locking mechanisms available, wasting space in a hardware one for a phone just seems pointless. If the scanner doesn't work, you still have to enter the passcode anyways. You may as well just have a passcode.

I do understand the concern of security on a device that is easy to misplace and not realize. On my way home from work (sometimes i commute by bike), I found an iPhone 5 on the ground. I picked it up. The good thing is that it was unlocked which allowed me to call/text other ppl to help me contact the phones owner. Of course I am honest, anyone else would have just erased it an kept it. The women didn't even realized she dropped it. Even tho it wants lock, I didn't snop. I saw her name in the settings and i look in the contacts for people with the same last name. I found her hubby and an in-law. I returned it a short time later after hubby finally got a hold of her at her in-laws which was up the street from where i lived.

I never take my phone out my pocket, unless its only going to be in my hands...or I am at home. One reason I dont use it in the car. I wont have to worry about dropping it or leaving it in the car where someone can see it an break in.

recursive said,
Indeed, when we all know those fellas from the government are here to help us.

Oh? Is your negativity fed by personal experience or just the pure joy of feeling like part of a generic anti-authority internet circlejerk?

Who said anything negative? I simply said they are here to help us. You are the one who seems to think that being part of a 'generic anti-authority internet circlejerk' makes you joyful, perhaps you have some personal experience to share with us?

recursive said,
Who said anything negative? I simply said they are here to help us. You are the one who seems to think that being part of a 'generic anti-authority internet circlejerk' makes you joyful, perhaps you have some personal experience to share with us?

I don't think you read that quite right. Back up and try again.

Now all corrupt cops have to do is hold your ass down and apply your finger to the screen.
No thanks. I'm keeping my pass code.

wetworker said,
Now all corrupt cops have to do is hold your ass down and apply your finger to the screen.
No thanks. I'm keeping my pass code.

Sure, because there's totally evidence of that ever happening to someone with a fingerprint scanner on their laptop.

Wait, there isn't? But but but my irrational fear of my own imagination!

wetworker said,
Now all corrupt cops have to do is hold your ass down and apply your finger to the screen.
No thanks. I'm keeping my pass code.

As if they'd require you. No that's not bad grammar, I actually did mean YOU, or rather your finger print.

Finger print scanners are inherently bad and even the best on the market can be fooled into giving access, thats why they're usually paid with a 2nd authentication.

Kevin Mitnick's escapades with wet towels and finger print readers to gain access to secure buildings proved that point many years ago. Then there was that Myth Buster's episode that tried to beat the best finger print reader and software on the market... they succeeded... and lastly, there have been multiple defcon talks about the issues with finger print readers in general, most noticeably algorithms used to do marker matching needs to be very loose and the match itself doesn't have to be anywhere near 100% to grant access.

Given that the iPhone itself will always be the same, and the software is going to be the same across the board, it would only require the police force to have 1 course setup to train them how to recover a finger print and replicate it for access to the phone, a kit they could probably use just as easy as dusting for the prints, and that's just a duplication hack of it.
There will be other ways to get past it...

It's just a gimmick, and of no real use other then providing a easy one touch way to unlock your phone.

I'm sure most people will stick with what they have. Not sure why you need to inform people of you specifically though?

It should have a "Disk Mode" with thantmuch storage.

Not sure why Apple doesn't offer a secure dis partition that has zero access to the core iOS partition, allowing people to use their phones as a large storage device; just like people did back in the days of the classic iPods

They like to force you to load on everything via iTunes so they can control what music and video etc you load on and add unnecessary restrictions and workarounds.

Unplugged said,
They like to force you to load on everything via iTunes so they can control what music and video etc you load on and add unnecessary restrictions and workarounds.

I've been syncing iDevices with iTunes for over ten years now, and I've always been able to sync any song or video that I wanted. Apple had no control over it. I know that fact will not cause your anti-RDF about Apple to shut down, but still.

omgben said,

I've been syncing iDevices with iTunes for over ten years now, and I've always been able to sync any song or video that I wanted. Apple had no control over it. I know that fact will not cause your anti-RDF about Apple to shut down, but still.

well they arw controling it. For one onky 2 video formats arw support with QT movies eing huge as hell. And only support 2 audio formats is lame as well. Yet they claim they support openness...what a joke.

So Apple can charge even more money to the iSheep who keep lots of photos, music, films etc where as most people will purchase a device with interchangable SD card slot.

Unplugged said,
So Apple can charge even more money to the iSheep who keep lots of photos, music, films etc where as most people will purchase a device with interchangable SD card slot.

Yes, wanting more on board storage so that I don't have to keep track of multiple SD cards is an iSheep thing. What's next? Are you doing to knock it because it doesn't support Flash?

Unplugged said,
So Apple can charge even more money to the iSheep who keep lots of photos, music, films etc where as most people will purchase a device with interchangable SD card slot.

And have a smaller battery because of it. No Thanks!

That's my point.... flash memory is cheap. Im not knocking them on offering larger models for convemiance im knocking them on deliberately not including external storage to milk more cash out of people.

If 32gb isn't enough for you you simply purchase a bigger flavour of SD card and slot it in...... Why woudl you have dozens of SD cards? In iSheep world that means paying apple $300 for a bigger unit. They still kiss their balls though and pay it as they are stuck with their heads in the cloud.

Don't get me wrong I have an iPad2 and a iPhone as business devices. They serve the purpose they were brought for well however for personal use I use something that costs half the price and does it 10 times better.

The amount of photographers I see after a shoot wasting time trying to get their photos onto iPads with a variety of "camera transfer devices" and/or other sharing software to showcase their photos while to get round Apples barmy restrictions on loading content rather than slotting in a card always makes me facepalm.

Well there are actually really major reasons why Apple chose not to go with the SD card option. Take a search around the web for all the issues that are caused by SD cards. They are much slower and less reliable than NAND memory, so even a good quality SD card can cause the OS to lag and have all sorts of stability issues.

The Lumia phones are the same way. They just don't want to deal with the issues that will inevitably pop up that have nothing to do with the phone itself. So they'll make more money on people that buy the higher capacity phones, and they won't have to spend extra money on the increased support demand. That's pretty basic business 101.

brent3000 said,
What would you need 128gb on-board storage for 0_0

Makes me wonder how much that model would fetch

Easy to figure out.
199...16gb
299...32gb
399...64gb
499...128gb

Unplugged said,
In iSheep world that means paying apple $300 for a bigger unit. They still kiss their balls though and pay it as they are stuck with their heads in the cloud. .

This sounds like unbridled hatred toward anyone who buys Apple products by calling them stupid in so many ways since they don't conform to your standard.

Kiss their balls? Wow gross and untrue.

Astra.Xtreme said,
Well there are actually really major reasons why Apple chose not to go with the SD card option. Take a search around the web for all the issues that are caused by SD cards. They are much slower and less reliable than NAND memory, so even a good quality SD card can cause the OS to lag and have all sorts of stability issues.

True.... however this is for music and photo storage something which should have no bearing on the SD card speed at all. The worst of SD cards have no problem dishing up music at a speed to be lag free. Apps and OS I can understand.

So why not go with both? Other manufacturers have no problem offering different sizes of internal storage and external. They won't because people will opt for a cheaper model + external storage as their not generally idiots. And two people would start questioning why they have to go though the backwards and retarded system of having to load music on though itunes wiping previous music off if you just want to add a couple of MP3 from a friends PC.

If hardware reliability was an issue then they wouldn't seal a battery into a phone which lasts 12-18 months.

What would you rather I call people who rebuy an entire unit to get more storage rather than upgrade the storage? Geniuses?....

Unplugged said,
lol hatred? No..... Amused yes.

A fool and their money as they say.

Yes, you hate against those who are different than you. Read your mean spirited iSheep posts.

You get what you pay for as they say.

Unplugged said,

True.... however this is for music and photo storage something which should have no bearing on the SD card speed at all. The worst of SD cards have no problem dishing up music at a speed to be lag free. Apps and OS I can understand.

So why not go with both? Other manufacturers have no problem offering different sizes of internal storage and external. They won't because people will opt for a cheaper model + external storage as their not generally idiots. And two people would start questioning why they have to go though the backwards and retarded system of having to load music on though itunes wiping previous music off if you just want to add a couple of MP3 from a friends PC.

If hardware reliability was an issue then they wouldn't seal a battery into a phone which lasts 12-18 months.

What would you rather I call people who rebuy an entire unit to get more storage rather than upgrade the storage? Geniuses?....

Here is what the iFans miss that they don't think about. COST! There problem is they have to much money to spend, they just look at the fact they can just afford to buy, than to think if it is worth buying.

How does this make since. At retail or contract, the 32GB iPhone cost $100 more than the 16GB version. Why? We are only talking 16GB. A 64GB SDcard can be had for roughly $50 to $60 depending on where you buy and you can buy 128GB thumb drives for $100. Which means an SDcard on if it was avail would cost slightly more than that.

I do understand you don't want to fiddle with multiple sdcards. In the case where you have a phone that doesn't support it, then that means the OEM's should do better. All of them, but especially Apple. 32GB should be the device minimum for that same $199 THis is why Apple makes so much money. Do the math.

For the iPad, iPod Touch and iPhone, Apple charges $100 extra instead of $50 extra to basically discourage you from buy the fancier models vs the cheaper one...why? Wouldn't they make more money? Yes...but...the fact is, if they sold you the 32GB model for $199, even tho they would make high profits, they wont be as high.

Even tho all the OEM's do it, it is time to break the mold. Samsung is likely going to be the first, seeing as how the 16GB is more than 50% used by Android and all their gimmicky features.

The main issue with iDevice is as you stated. You can't sync your device with anyone's iTunes unless you wipe it. That is lame. The only other way is they have to email you the file and when you sync it, you have to supply their user/password. I understand why they did it, but they aren't preventing it from happening.

The top 5 reasons to never buy a device...
1 - because it matches your shoes/dress/purse
2 - just because someone you know has it
3 - because its the most popular
4 - because Apple says you should
5 - because the carriers salesperson pushed it on you

Sadly this is how most of the Apple fans shop and continuously buy as they admit year after year how Samsaung phones especially have the features they want but they are too proud and too biased to switch. That an they don't want plastic which also shows how stupid they are because poly-carbonate is not plastic. In fcat Carbon materials are more expensive to produce vs using tempered metals like aluminum. All one has to do is price 2 bikes from a single brand with the exact same components but one with an aluminum frameset and the other using carbonate materials and see which ones cost more.

If we call them stupid they lash out saying look at the hate. Yet these same trolls will spew their BS about every Samsung phone that is released. No matter how much you trolls hate Samsung, they are selling more phones, they have more features and more than your phone that you love so much will NEVER have or have in such a limited way it wont even be worth it.

TechieXP said,

Sadly this is how most of the Apple fans shop and continuously buy as they admit year after year how Samsaung phones especially have the features they want but they are too proud and too biased to switch. That an they don't want plastic which also shows how stupid they are because poly-carbonate is not plastic.

Actually that couldn't be any further from the truth... People buy iPhones because they are easy to use, stable, and integrate exceptionally well with other Apple products. Stop making up these "reasons", please...

Also, poly-carbonate is a type plastic. I don't know why you'd think otherwise.

If you're going to call people stupid, at least get your facts straight. Otherwise it doesn't reflect your image too well...

Astra.Xtreme said,

Actually that couldn't be any further from the truth... People buy iPhones because they are easy to use, stable, and integrate exceptionally well with other Apple products. Stop making up these "reasons", please...

Also, poly-carbonate is a type plastic. I don't know why you'd think otherwise.

If you're going to call people stupid, at least get your facts straight. Otherwise it doesn't reflect your image too well...

PLastic is a generic name given to many materials. Yet there composition prevents them from being plastic as we know it to be. Compare the plastic of a plastic bag like used at a grocery store or a garbage can vs what the phone is made of.

I have a bike I ride that is made of carbon. Its not plastic. I read Wikipedia's definition of poly-carbonate. When it is quote as being plastic, it is reference as a generic turn. poly-carbonate is a composite material that is made up of lots of different things, thus its plastic misnomer.

If it was "plastic", then it wouldn't cost more than metal...would it?
Here let me help you with 3 examples.


As I stated bikes...go and price an all aluminum bike vs one that is carbon
Go and price an set of wheels for a car made of carbon vs aluminum
Go and price a car that uses carbon panels vs aluminum/sheet metal ones
GO and price window panes made out of carbon vs ones made of plastic.
In fact go and become a cop and where a vest made of plastic and see what happens if someone shoots you.

There is a huge difference. Just like you same fans don't know the difference between "water resistant" vs "water-proof" which Is why there was so many returning the Galaxy S 4 Active.

Many people are calling the material the Surface is made out of as plastic. Magnesium is a metal. The reason the Surface feels plastic, because the metal is mold injected. In order to use the injection machine, the metal has to be soften. When it dries, because it composition has been changed with heat, it remains with that soften feel vs getting has hard as it once was. This is the same done with chemical based polymers. "Plastic" is a generic name given to these chemical based materials that are made using a similar manufacturing process. The material itself is not plastic.

TechieXP said,
snip

Well hold on a second... This is what you said:
"That an they don't want plastic which also shows how stupid they are because poly-carbonate is not plastic."

Poly-carbonate is a thermoplastic. But guess what, it's still a plastic... There's nothing you can say to prove otherwise, so it's laughable how you would call somebody stupid for thinking polycarbonate is plastic. It IS a plastic. It's the same as saying steel is a metal. No sh*t, it's common sense...

You're busted and cornered, so before you make yourself look any more ridiculous, either admit you're wrong, or move on...

Astra.Xtreme said,

Actually that couldn't be any further from the truth... People buy iPhones because they are easy to use, stable, and integrate exceptionally well with other Apple products.

I did not know Apple were selling other products the same quantity as iphones being sold.
I can bet that 50-60%, if not significantly more, of people using iphones do not own any other Apple device.

ice-dogg said,

I did not know Apple were selling other products the same quantity as iphones being sold.
I can bet that 50-60%, if not significantly more, of people using iphones do not own any other Apple device.

Who cares how many people own other products? That's not the point...

Microsoft now does the exact same thing in that their tablets, phones, and PCs all function together. It's a smart design decision and works extremely well for the users in those ecosystems. Android is being left in the dust in this department. If you're somebody who likes to stay organized, having everything automatically sync between multiple devices is incredibly nice.

Astra.Xtreme said,

Who cares how many people own other products? That's not the point...

Microsoft now does the exact same thing in that their tablets, phones, and PCs all function together. It's a smart design decision and works extremely well for the users in those ecosystems. Android is being left in the dust in this department. If you're somebody who likes to stay organized, having everything automatically sync between multiple devices is incredibly nice.

Android lacks in this department? Wrong. Apple has an OS that runs on a computer and a tablet and a phone, so does MS and so does Google. If you use Google's service as with Apple and MS, you can sync your data.

If you purchase music from Google, if you switch devices you can sync it to your device. The advantages of Google and Ms over Apple, is you can sync ALL your media, not just what you purchase from their perspective stores.

Android certainly doesn't lack. What MS has is better sync on the Enterprise level. But I would say Google is bigger on this level vs Apple.

The best thing about Google and MS, is that I can log into ANY computer, phone or tablet in the world and have access to my stuff. This is not true of Apple

Your claim that Google lacks in this is simply false.
Google and MS also offer something Apple doesn't. No matter what brand you choose, the service work identical no matter what device or brand. With Apple, you much choose an Apple device.

The only plus to Apple approach is that as long as you have their stuff you benefit. Even though many businesses have allowed for their employees to use any brand of device, they have complained that iOS/OS X is the hardest and most expensive to support. They require to many expensive work-arounds that just aren't worth the cost compared to MS and even Google.

Sorry Android doesn't fail here.

TechieXP said,
snip

Wow, you clearly missed the point... Sure they have the Chrome OS, but it's massively limited compared to the functionality of Windows and OS X. That was the point I was making, hence why I said: "Microsoft now does the exact same thing in that their tablets, phones, and PCs all function together." Don't cherry-pick my comment...


If you purchase music from Google, if you switch devices you can sync it to your device. The advantages of Google and Ms over Apple, is you can sync ALL your media, not just what you purchase from their perspective stores.

You can do this too on an Apple device...


The best thing about Google and MS, is that I can log into ANY computer, phone or tablet in the world and have access to my stuff. This is not true of Apple

That doesn't even make any sense...

Your claim that Google lacks in this is simply false.
Google and MS also offer something Apple doesn't. No matter what brand you choose, the service work identical no matter what device or brand. With Apple, you much choose an Apple device.

This makes even less sense...

TechieXP said,

Here is what the iFans miss that they don't think about. COST! There problem is they have to much money to spend, they just look at the fact they can just afford to buy, than to think if it is worth buying.

Actually I don't buy SD cards to add to any device since I use Box.net. That is the way to go. The Cloud, who knew??!?

A fingerprint record of every person who owns an iPhone 5+, awesome!

Hey, didn't Apple just recently join the list of NSA comrades? Ah, who cares about liberties and freedoms! New iPhone! Shiny! Snappier! Innovative! Revolutionary! Yay!

No thanks.

Way back in '08 I had a fake iphone (well it was called iPhone, it looked like a brick touchscreen ) which had a fingerprint scanner. You could use it to unlock the phone run apps with different fingers and even use it as a biometric device on your PC

Anyway, I bought it as a gag. Was impossible at the time of purchase to research any of the specs since it had the model A380 and Airbus had just started going public with the A380 which trumped all my search results.

Here's a video of the hideous ****** - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3sY-zFKahc

Yeah that fingerprint is innovative and revolutionary as hell good luck to people who will fall to that hole. I remember back when it came to laptops, everyone wanted one but after 1-2 weeks of using it they went back to regular passwords because the thing was just plain useless and crap to use.