U.S. Puts 12 Nations on Watch for Piracy

The Bush administration has placed China, Russia, Argentina, Chile, Egypt, India, Israel, Lebanon, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine and Venezuela on a "priority watch list" for failing to sufficiently protect American producers of music, movies and other copyrighted material from widespread piracy. The 12 will be under extra scrutiny and could eventually lead to economic sanctions if the administration decides to bring trade cases before the World Trade Organization. Another 31 countries were placed on lower level monitoring lists, indicating the concerns about copyright violations in those nations did not warrant the highest level of scrutiny. The designations occurred in a report, known as a "Special 301 Report," that the administration is required to provide Congress each year highlighting problems American companies are facing around the world with copyright piracy, which they contend is costing them billions of dollars in lost sales annually. "We must defend ideas, inventions and creativity from rip-off artists and thieves," U.S. Trade Representative Susan C. Schwab said in a statement accompanying this year's report.

Representatives of U.S. companies applauded the new administration report but Oxfam America denounced the administration: "The report ignores important international agreements signed by the U.S. government ... which clearly state that developing countries have the right to place public health and the public interest over intellectual property rules," said Rohit Malpani, a policy adviser with Oxfam.

Neil Turkewitz, an official with the Recording Industry Association of America, said the administration was right to single out China and Russia for special criticism in the report. Dan Glickman, head of the Motion Picture Association of America, said the new report indicated "the scope of global piracy and serves as a sobering reminder of the challenges ahead."

News source: Physorg

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so WHO wants to know the price of vista in New Zealand then C'mon i know your dying to ask .......... ok ok i'll tell you already alright Miscrosoft Windows Vista Ultimate retails here for the paltry amout of ........... wait for it ........

[font=Book Antiqua][b][color=#3333FF]$949.00 NZD scuse me while i puke and they wonder why we pirate stuff coz im stuffed if im gonna pay that much for an os that wont evan run Quake 3 arena perhaps the US govt should be askin why are you trying to sell us something thats broken so dont go trying to sell me an outhouse and tellin me its the taj mahal

I'm surprised that India is on the list, but Pakistan isn't. Maybe it's 'cause Pakistan is an ally of the US "war of terror" (reference to Borat movie).

I don't know if the MPAA's lawyers learned this is in law school or not but US laws don't apply internationally (unless you "liberate" their country first).

Actually WTO laws on intellectual property do ... ofcourse the US generally disregards them when they see fit, but who cares, right?

I'd expect action against Israel, Italy, Canada and the other "advanced" economies on the full list, its shocking countries like that don't respect copyright law.

China ofcourse wants the US to buy their products, so they'll comply as much as they have to.

Russia and the rest have little reason to do anything.

SimpleRules said,
Actually WTO laws on intellectual property do ... ofcourse the US generally disregards them when they see fit, but who cares, right?

I'd expect action against Israel, Italy, Canada and the other "advanced" economies on the full list, its shocking countries like that don't respect copyright law.

China ofcourse wants the US to buy their products, so they'll comply as much as they have to.

Russia and the rest have little reason to do anything.

The US will buy from Chine no matter what, 90% of what the US produced a couple of decades ago is now being produced in Asia instead, the world is no longer the US's bitch and soon the US will be China's bitch. But good call on the WTO part The US ignored the WTO and UN whenever they want but when one of their largest industries starts losing money they go complaining to the very organizations they wouldn't even acknlowedge existed before.

You people that are bashing Bush do realize that he personally has nothing to do with this report and its content? This report, Special 301 Report, is something that is mandated by Congress and it's been around for years. It details the current trade agreements and such with other countries. If you go back and check past years, there almost always is a piracy watch list. No one was complaining when the watch lists came out under Clinton. It's unfortunate that bashing our President for everything the government does is the current "cool" thing to do.

LMAO the posts in this thread are funny as feck!!


Time for the rest of the world to put the U.S. on notice for not abiding to international trade laws and squeezing the small countries.

Failure to follow the WTO laws that they themselves help to create.


lol if you don't follow the rules you have helped create why do you expect everyone else to give a **** about yours? hmm, is it for world domination? lol


Pinky: what are we going to do today Brain?

Brain: same as every other day...we are going to take over the World..

Pinky: Narrff!!

Well, atleast they've finally criticized Israel - ofcourse for the wrong thing.

Israel really shouldn't be on that list, their economy is very advanced compared to most of the others, they even have the Intel development center in Haifa - I wonder why they choose not to protect the intellectual content of their greatest ally? I guess Israel simply doesn't care about any other country, whats best for them is all that matters, and free software and movies are good.

I live in Venezuela and here almost no one cant afford an OS or Software legally, Vista cost almost a complete minimun salary and any pirate copy not cost even 5% of it.

And that is what the world gets for giving control of the internet to the US.

When will the US gov realize that the internet belongs to all and that they themselves can not police it and govern over it. It is up to the respective governments to crack down on their country's piracy.

Perhaps the US should track down the pirates in the homeland and not abroad.

No, this is what you get for America being the sole creator of movies and software, world wide - ofcourse they want to protect their industry.

I don't see it changing, software from India or China may work, but movies won't - there is only one English super power so most of the movies will come from there.

Heh, Sweden and our Pirate Bay isn't even on the low priority list. ;)
I guess they're mostly after organized "street" crime for profit, which Sweden has little of.

is that a threat mr bush? Are you planing to destroy any of those countries?. You wanna do this in the name of freedom? Like you did in Iraq and destroy a whole country and a whole society. In the name of freedom?. But that wont work this time. Find another word for that, mr.

What a stupid move. I live in the US and love my country, but seriously... Our government is just plain stupid sometimes. This is one of those times.

LOL. I really doubt this will lead to anything at all. As much as the US thinks they are the 'world government/authority' they aren't, and one day unfortunately I see this blowing up in their face (no pun intended). :S

The countries placed on a lower-level watch list were Belarus, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Guatemala, Hungary, Indonesia, Italy, Jamaica, South Korea, Kuwait, Lithuania, Malaysia, Mexico, Pakistan, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Saudi Arabia, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Vietnam.

There's Canada! Well done guys:)

But seriously, that list is made up from a 3rd world bias!

lol can't c Saudi Arabia on that list ...
no one' here buys any software ...
and they are selling everything for like 3$ !! ... not proud of that anyway ^^; ... but it's nice when u r out of money

Please some one tell Mr Bush that in most of the countries of the list the cost of buying an operating system for example is 4, 5, or even a year of salary for most people. Not to mention the problems of unemployment, poverty, injustice, high index of corruption, public deficit, education, etc and etc, that most of that societies of the third world have for decades. Do you think that your government is incompetent? I live in one of the list and trust me most of that governments are lot of times worst. Someone with clear concepts of democracy will horror if they see how lot of people live here. Trust me i suffer them all days since the day I was born (almost 3 decades :redface: ).

Do I have to say sorry for my English? :P

Have a nice day.

Just because they can't afford it doesn't make it right for them to pirate it.

I don't understand the problem here. The countries have huge pirating problems, so why not do this.

-Spenser

stifler6478 said,
Just because they can't afford it doesn't make it right for them to pirate it.

I don't understand the problem here. The countries have huge pirating problems, so why not do this.

-Spenser

I agree, but I just doubt the effectiveness of the report. Encouraging to persecute piracy wont make people buy more copyrighted material, it will only make people can't access them. And the profit will be very low. It's just my opinion. And I'm really interesting to know in base of what that numbers of "lost sales" are calculated.

Except for china, my bet is spain beats the rest of those countries when it comes to piracy. But in spain we have our own riaa so apparently we're safe in the eyes of america.
Turns out, we pay for every single device that can store data (first it was cds, etc). Not only do WE pay for that, but they're still saying it is illegal for us to copy copyright stuff. So I'm paying to palliate the damages of something I'm not supposed to do?
I take it as a subscription service: I'm paying so I get to have something in return!

Dear USA

Some countries don't like communist ideals such as idea protectionism and artificially constructing otherwise unprofitable business models at the expense of a free market in exchange for campaign funds and expensive gifts. We do not believe that rent seeking is acceptable in the modern world of free market capitalism.

Yours,
Free market economies

News Flash: China, Russia, Argentina, Chile, Egypt, India, Israel, Lebanon, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine and Venezuela don't give a ****.

Very true, but the mess he's made and continues to make will stick around long long after he's gone. Retards shouldn't be allowed to be president.

Dear, China, Russia, Argentina, Chile, Egypt, India, Israel, Lebanon, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine and Venezuela

Tell the Americans to go screw themselves, and then add the USA to your own list of nations containing the most lame, anally retentive retards per square mile.

For added effect, give the Bush administration the finger, like this:

,,l,

*Associated Linkage*

webeagle12 said,
I gotta agree with you there although I live in USA.
we one step closer to get our asses kicked some day

lol at link :laugh:

Cheers dude! :laugh:

Although I didnt mean my post to sound as harsh as it came out, I am tired of the American government looking to reach beyond its borders.

I mean, if they have a problem with China and they feel piracy is hurting American businesses, then take it up with them directly!

Forming a list, and then threatening to run to the WTO and whine is so anal

I have no hostility towards the American people btw. The one's i've met have been awesome

Its just pretty clear that the Bush administration no longer speaks for the American people. Although the same can be said of the UK government to an extent :(

I guess the best way is for the people of the world to ignore their governments, and just come together and have a beer!

THATS the future of international relations, mark my words! lol :cheeky:

Code Blue said,

Cheers dude! :laugh:

Although I didnt mean my post to sound as harsh as it came out, I am tired of the American government looking to reach beyond its borders.

I mean, if they have a problem with China and they feel piracy is hurting American businesses, then take it up with them directly!

Forming a list, and then threatening to run to the WTO and whine is so anal

I have no hostility towards the American people btw. The one's i've met have been awesome

Its just pretty clear that the Bush administration no longer speaks for the American people. Although the same can be said of the UK government to an extent :(

I guess the best way is for the people of the world to ignore their governments, and just come together and have a beer!

THATS the future of international relations, mark my words! lol :cheeky:

Even my 15 year old sister doesn't use that many smilies. What's your mental age?


No problems with American People either, I have quite a number of close friends from the U.S.......just the government and foreign relations do so much damage.


The government is not working for the people but rather Big Business who fund their campaigns and own the lobby etc.

Might as well add ourselves (US) on the list also, they can list it by each state :cheeky:
Economic sanctions for other nations because some num-nuts in the US puts it out for piracy.
I not for piracy but maybe its not the number one issue for other nations and they are trying to take care of other important issues. Im sure they are trying to fight piracy but the people who they are trying to catch will always have another person to fill in their spot with something new.

"China, Russia, Argentina, Chile, Egypt, India, Israel, Lebanon, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine and Venezuela... you're on notice."
-- Stephen Colbert

I have visions of him saying exactly that dancing in my head.

You guys notice holf of those are the current developing superpowers? And if USA wants to help so much, let them pirate. China and India are the most important in that scale, as well as Russia and Israel. Why?

1) They can't afford it; and currently becoming modernized.
2) They all have nukes and will kick your ass.
3) The economy will rise 400% the current speed in 20 years if it keeps going at this pace.