US warns future hackers of possible military action

Yesterday the United States revealed its International Strategy for Cyberspace that deals with military and defence matters relating to cyber-attacks, along with general praise of cyberspace and other less interesting matters. The document mentions the USA’s strategy should a serious cyberspace hack occur on the US or its allies.

The policy (PDF) outlines several key measures the US would take to protect itself in the case of a cyberspace emergency:

States have an inherent right to self-defense that may be triggered by certain aggressive acts in cyberspace… Certain hostile acts conducted through cyberspace could compel actions under the commitments we have with our military treaty partners… When warranted, the United States will respond to hostile acts in cyberspace as we would any other threat to our country.

This implies that should an “aggressive act” occur through cyberspace the United States will use its military forces to respond to the threat, as it would if a physical attack occurred on American or allied soil. In theory this could lead to a war starting over a cyberspace hack or attack, but the document’s main contention focuses on dissuading hackers from their motives; certainly doable if hackers have the possibility of a United States military force on them.

The strategy also emphasized that “The United States will ensure that the risks associated with attacking or exploiting our networks vastly outweigh the potential benefits” – hackers, be warned.

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Goog gawd you guys and your PSN crap. Sony dropped the ball there, had they had a better plan in place to prevent attacks and a contingency in place to keep their networks up afterwards there would be no issue here. So there was some private info leaked ( we still don't know the extent) but nothing major happened. OMG you lost PSN for a few week...geebus!!!

I'm more worried about real attacks like the hit on Heartland, that actually leaked sensitive info. Or attacks that take down critical infrastructure. Sorry gamers your servers aren't critical!!

FWIW I don't think this is anything new, or isolated to the US... Many countries have so-called cyber warfare units either as a part of or working with their military, both for detection/defense & as one of the 1st lines of offense. And I think most countries would consider a large scale attack by another country, however it was delivered, as an act of war. Likewise it would be hard to imagine one country mounting such an attack on another innocently.

That said, 50 years ago it would have been more difficult to stage an attack & make it look like it came from another country -- that's something that would be far easier to accomplish nowadays.

I think the US government has felt a need to formulate a policy on cyberspace for at least the past decade, because there has been a lot of talk about it by people who had no clue what they were talking about. Now that they all carry Blackberries and iPads, they think that they can formulate this policy around military action, which sort of makes sense if the intruders are from outside of the US or it's allies . . . but is that really necessary inside that line? Wouldn't the CIA be a better choice? I think what they want is legislative license to go in and stop antagonistic hackers by any means (see the Seal Team 6 crack above) and that someone is going to eventually misinterpret that and yes, they're going to crack down too hard on our own soil. The government needs to re-work the plan to ensure that it protects citizens' rights while at the same time ensuring that hackers can be shut down quickly and effectively. I don't think we need snipers and UAVs for that.

Military action against those script kiddies or whomever was doing the damage i'm all up for but not for attacking a country cause some bozo within managed to hack them. Still it will be hard to go after individuals since everyone oh so favors anonymity so people will just keep getting screwed in the end until it happens to them. I think it wise for military to just back off until companies can't protect their consumers anymore to the point it requires such measures. Spam away stolen accounts.

Ppl are not going die, they ain't going fire a tomahawk at some spotty kid in a basement, well not an American kid anyway. Doesn't matter bout the Chinese there to over populated anyway, let's call it crowd control!!

psionicinversion said,
Ppl are not going die, they ain't going fire a tomahawk at some spotty kid in a basement!

I'm so glad to hear that. I was thinking about moving to a house with no neighbours

psionicinversion said,
Doesn't matter bout the Chinese there to over populated anyway, let's call it crowd control!!

you racist tw*t!

psionicinversion said,
Ppl are not going die, they ain't going fire a tomahawk at some spotty kid in a basement, well not an American kid anyway. Doesn't matter bout the Chinese there to over populated anyway, let's call it crowd control!!

Do you actually read your own posts?
You should... they spin your head upside down...

Thx buddy for giving such a rich insight into your way of thinking.

GS:mac

Now i'm not sure that the military has to do the job, I agree with the US to take real action against hackers like those who damaged PSN. I mean, anyone these days can become a hacker, and people just think it's fun to hack a company like sony, microsoft or Google just to show off how good they are with computers.

I just hope that people who didn't attack a company won't be in jail. I mean, hackers probably don't use their own computers to hack, but rather someone elses. I don't want to get blown away by the military just because an unknown virus hit my computer and was used to attack a us company.

The same goes for terrorism tracing on the net. I mean, what if a popup gets opened linking to such site? Will I be flagged, and how can I prove that I didn't know / want it???

So good that they use some force against hackers, but I hope they do a good job at it!

Lilrich said,
How ridiculous.

May I ask how it is ridiculous? Look at the freakin damage that Anonymous caused by shutting down PSN! Financial or otherwise, the impact was huge! Continued attacks like that cannot be allowed! I applaud our government for taking this action!

winlonghorn said,

May I ask how it is ridiculous? Look at the freakin damage that Anonymous caused by shutting down PSN! Financial or otherwise, the impact was huge! Continued attacks like that cannot be allowed! I applaud our government for taking this action!


People are going to die.
Please actually read that.

Also I fear that this will be overused eventually... Maybe not now or soon, but trust me, it will.

GS:mac

winlonghorn said,

May I ask how it is ridiculous? Look at the freakin damage that Anonymous caused by shutting down PSN! Financial or otherwise, the impact was huge! Continued attacks like that cannot be allowed! I applaud our government for taking this action!

First off Sony isn't even headquartered in the US. And you know that Anon shut down PSN how? Anon has a large US base are we going to bomb our own cities?

People's live shouldn't be on the line because a company can't provide adequate security for its own services. Now if we are talking an escalated attack against government entities then maybe. But private sector attacks...ehhh

winlonghorn said,

May I ask how it is ridiculous? Look at the freakin damage that Anonymous caused by shutting down PSN! Financial or otherwise, the impact was huge! Continued attacks like that cannot be allowed! I applaud our government for taking this action!

The Americans always think that fighting is the way to solve everything, why did PSN get shut down in the first place because sony were monsters to their customer base, i just don't think military action is required to tackle Cybercrime.

Lilrich said,

why did PSN get shut down in the first place because sony were monsters to their customer base

Just because they want to protect millions of dollars of work by artists (by sony or other companies) doesn't make it right to hack their services.

Peter van Dam said,

Just because they want to protect millions of dollars of work by artists (by sony or other companies) doesn't make it right to hack their services.

Agreed but wasn't Sony removing features from their devices etc?

Oh and Twist, i did read the article that is why i commented.

twist said,
this is almost like nobody even reads the articles and even attempts to comprehend WTF they are about.

I read the article and made a comment based on my views.....so if you want to comment in general don't reply quoting me.

winlonghorn said,

May I ask how it is ridiculous?


Re-read this statement:

'When warranted, the United States will respond to hostile acts in cyberspace as we would any other threat to our country'

Is it not blatently obvious how rediculous it is to even contemplate using military force to retaliate against a cyber threat? Especially when that threat could be orchestrated from on their own doorstep.

To me it suggests that in the event they would be looking for someone to shoot at (probably killing a bunch of their own allies' troops by mistake in the process - as seems to be the American way in modern war) whilst failing to achieve their objective in a timely and cost effective manner.

winlonghorn said,

May I ask how it is ridiculous? Look at the freakin damage that Anonymous caused by shutting down PSN! Financial or otherwise, the impact was huge! Continued attacks like that cannot be allowed! I applaud our government for taking this action!


May ask how did you come to the conclusion that it was Anon that was behind the PSN shutdown ?

20legend said,

Re-read this statement:

'When warranted, the United States will respond to hostile acts in cyberspace as we would any other threat to our country'

Is it not blatently obvious how rediculous it is to even contemplate using military force to retaliate against a cyber threat? Especially when that threat could be orchestrated from on their own doorstep.

To me it suggests that in the event they would be looking for someone to shoot at (probably killing a bunch of their own allies' troops by mistake in the process - as seems to be the American way in modern war) whilst failing to achieve their objective in a timely and cost effective manner.

Someone get's it!

Glassed Silver said,

Also I fear that this will be overused eventually... Maybe not now or soon, but trust me, it will.

I would have to hope that this only applies to infrastructure items (ATC, power/utilities, direct financial sector) and not some random company. With that in mind, hopefully it will not be overused.

But yea, I totally get what you're saying.....

winlonghorn said,
May I ask how it is ridiculous? Look at the freakin damage that Anonymous caused by shutting down PSN! Financial or otherwise, the impact was huge! Continued attacks like that cannot be allowed! I applaud our government for taking this action!

So, I guess next military target will be Wall Street. Look at the freakin damage they caused!

Lilrich said,

The Americans always think that fighting is the way to solve everything, why did PSN get shut down in the first place because sony were monsters to their customer base, i just don't think military action is required to tackle Cybercrime.

Actually, yeah, Sony had it coming to them.

Lilrich said,

The Americans always think that fighting is the way to solve everything, why did PSN get shut down in the first place because sony were monsters to their customer base, i just don't think military action is required to tackle Cybercrime.

Oh ya....that's right....because milk and cookies would have prevented the people who stole all the info from sony.....

20legend said,

Re-read this statement:

'When warranted, the United States will respond to hostile acts in cyberspace as we would any other threat to our country'

Is it not blatently obvious how rediculous it is to even contemplate using military force to retaliate against a cyber threat? Especially when that threat could be orchestrated from on their own doorstep.

To me it suggests that in the event they would be looking for someone to shoot at (probably killing a bunch of their own allies' troops by mistake in the process - as seems to be the American way in modern war) whilst failing to achieve their objective in a timely and cost effective manner.

people need to stop thinking that "responding to hostile action like any other threats" means the GIs will storm into house , shoot everyone , the presumed hacker and his family or bomb houses , and be like " YAY WE KILLED THE HAXXORZ"

please stop watching too many movies at once.

Glassed Silver said,

People are going to die.
Please actually read that.

Also I fear that this will be overused eventually... Maybe not now or soon, but trust me, it will.

GS:mac

Sorry, but I feel this entire article is being taken out of context. They will respond like they have in the past, terrorism - counter-terrorism therefore cyberwar - counter-cyberwar. Talk about over reacting to a vague reference...You hack us, we hack back, across borders, etc.

winlonghorn said,

May I ask how it is ridiculous? Look at the freakin damage that Anonymous caused by shutting down PSN! Financial or otherwise, the impact was huge! Continued attacks like that cannot be allowed! I applaud our government for taking this action!

If all this **** can bring more human relation i'm in. People get stuck in their underbasement for weeks playing boring games.

Un4given said,

Oh ya....that's right....because milk and cookies would have prevented the people who stole all the info from sony.....

You should learn to read, i didn't mention anything about Milk nor Cookies i was merley saying that i thought the fact that the millitary was being used for this purposes was 'ridiculous' isn't that was Homeland security or the CIA is for?

[quote=Thino said,]

people need to stop thinking that "responding to hostile action like any other threats" means the GIs will storm into house , shoot everyone , the presumed hacker and his family or bomb houses , and be like " YAY WE KILLED THE HAXXORZ"

please stop watching too many movies at once.

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Obvously from my above statements I don;'t care for this bill but what exactly do you think we do. We shot first ad ask questions later. I didn't read the entire letter but this stands out pretty clear to me.

[quote]We reserve the right to use all necessary means