Verizon: LTE support "critical" for Windows Phone

So far none of the smartphones that have been made based on Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 have any support for using the faster LTE networks that are being built by Verizon Wireless and AT&T (Sprint will launch its own LTE network in 2012). Now a Verizon executive claims that Microsoft needs to get LTE support for future Windows Phone products sooner rather than later.

In a chat over at CNet News.com, Marni Walden, chief market officer of Verizon Wireless, is quoted as saying, "We've communicated to Microsoft that LTE is critical to us. We need to see a timeline that makes sense if we want to continue to represent them."

Microsoft representatives have said in the past that they plan to have Windows Phone products support LTE networks at some point but not said when that will actually happen. Walden said that while Verizon is still in discussions with Microsoft on getting a LTE-based Windows Phone there is no progress to report on that subject.

Verizon has the biggest LTE wireless network by far in the US which will cover about 200 million people when a new set of markets go live on December 15. It currently has 16 LTE-based devices for sale and more are on the way including the Android 4.0 based Samsung Galaxy Nexus.

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I am not surprise. With Verizon advertising "4G LTE Lightning Speed," anything without it (except the iPhone) gets push aside.

Of cause Nokia is already committed to making CDMA/LTE Windows Phone.

day2die said,
I am not surprise. With Verizon advertising "4G LTE Lightning Speed," anything with it (except the iPhone) gets push aside.

we got LTE from verizon in our town recently, and its faster then our cable connection.... 15Mbit down, 10Mbit up and only 40ms latency.... comperable connectio non cable we only get 15Mbit down, 2Mbit up and 80ms latency

iPhones don't have LTE and Apple probably won't be adding any support any time soon since it drains the battery. The same can also be said about Microsoft.

"We need to see a timeline that makes sense if we want to continue to represent them."

huh tell that to apple too then, as Apple hasn't made a LTE phone yet either verizon... oh wait no you wont because apple is a cash cow for you now

I thought "full" (or whatever it is) LTE support is coming with Tango, which is what the Nokias will release with in the US?

According to this article, http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395983,00.asp

The current Mango "bits" don't support LTE, but other manufacturers have access to the same LTE Mango update that Nokia does, said Greg Sullivan, Windows Phone senior product manager.

While LTE support may be an incremental update to Mango....

So is VZW blowing smoke up our butts or is the PCMag article wrong? Or I can just be reading the article wrong.

primortal said,
According to this article, http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395983,00.asp


So is VZW blowing smoke up our butts or is the PCMag article wrong? Or I can just be reading the article wrong.

Interesting catch. I'm betting on Verizon blowing smoke personally. What support have they given Windows Phone? They probably have people hounding them for more Windows Phone devices and decided to point the finger at Microsoft.

Einlander said,
Continue to represent them? If i were to walk in a Verizon store today, will they try to sell me one?

Exactly. And how many Windows Phones do they have? ONE. The same one that they launched with. I can understand Verizon's point about LTE (And agree that it's important), but Verizon has given Windows Phone no support whatsoever from the beginning. They can't even be bothered to get another phone. When Microsoft puts LTE support in Windows Phone, will Verizon fill their displays with Windows Phone? I'm betting no...

I don't care about LTE because most of the time I ; I'm ****ed that Verizon cut DLNA out of Mango (apparently European Trophy's have this ability, but I'm not willing to flash a custom rom on my phone and risk bricking it). I really wish Verizon carried more WP7 devices, and I hope in the future they get some or all of the Nokias, but in the meantime I did get my Trophy for free (well, $150 after I got the extended battery and replaced the uSDHC card with 32GB) and even though it's not the very best WP7 phone hardware-wise, it is a very nice phone. However, Verizon didn't sell me a Trophy; I really wanted a WP7 and when I went to Wirefly.com it was the only one they had for Verizon. I would have to strongly agree that Verizon doesn't really support or push the sale of WP7 at all, they just have the one phone just in case somebody wants one. I am hoping that with more companies making WP7 phones and marketing them that it will raise the general public's awareness enough that they create enough demand to force Verizon into adapting more of them.

Darrian said,
I don't care about LTE because most of the time I ;
Oops, can't edit comments. Should have read "because most of the time I am using my home wifi".

I really hope when Microsoft climbs out of the ditch they fell in, that they know to not let it happen all over again...

What I mean is, they better have support for more than just what is the fad now, ok so wp7 supports 720 screen resolution with Apollo but what if Samsung bump it even higher or quadcore CPUs will become a fad when wp7 finally supports multicore CPUs but only dual core...

They need to start that OTA update system and get these hardware upgrades supported much quicker than waiting for the next major update that carriers have to test...

Sionic Ion said,
I really hope when Microsoft climbs out of the ditch they fell in, that they know to not let it happen all over again...

What I mean is, they better have support for more than just what is the fad now, ok so wp7 supports 720 screen resolution with Apollo but what if Samsung bump it even higher or quadcore CPUs will become a fad when wp7 finally supports multicore CPUs but only dual core...

They need to start that OTA update system and get these hardware upgrades supported much quicker than waiting for the next major update that carriers have to test...


I do agree that Windows Phone OS needs LTE and higher resolution.

What I don't understand is the race to the most cores. Windows Phone OS is very optimized for certain processors. Having more cores are not going to help unless the OS takes advantage of them.

day2die said,

What I don't understand is the race to the most cores. Windows Phone OS is very optimized for certain processors. Having more cores are not going to help unless the OS takes advantage of them.

You are absolutely right but multiple cores are a good marketing point. Most people doesn't understand it and they use it. Apple and android are really good at it. If you take a look at dual core android phones you'll see they are still laggy and choppy sometimes and Apple has issue with battery with dual core

day2die said,

What I don't understand is the race to the most cores. Windows Phone OS is very optimized for certain processors. Having more cores are not going to help unless the OS takes advantage of them.

You are absolutely right but multiple cores are a good marketing point. Most people doesn't understand it and they use it. Apple and android are really good at it. If you take a look at dual core android phones you'll see they are still laggy and choppy sometimes and Apple has issue with battery with dual core

UndergroundWire said,
One of the biggest turn offs in any smartphone platform is lack of 4G LTE. If it doesn't have it, I don't bother looking at it.

It makes no sense at all to have LTE smartphones on carriers that lack LTE.

Also, Microsoft has already added LTE to Windows Phone in a minor update call "Mango+". It's just that no OEM has release LTE Windows Phones yet.

Of cause Nokia is already committed to making CDMA/LTE Windows Phone.

day2die said,

It makes no sense at all to have LTE smartphones on carriers that lack LTE.

Verizon has LTE. I've enjoyed it on my phone since March. Remarkable isn't it?