Weekend Poll: Would you buy an x86 Windows 8 tablet?

Another weekend, another poll, and surprisingly we're not running out of questions to ask just yet! One of the big pieces of news this week that we happened to leak was the possible specifications and looks on an upcoming Dell Windows 8 tablet. Packed with a 10.1-inch HD display, Intel Clover Trail Atom processor, 2 GB of RAM and up to a whopping 128 GB of solid state drive space, it certainly looks like it's going to be a tablet powerhouse.

The question is though, would you buy a tablet like this? Are you interested in purchasing an x86-based Windows 8 tablet or are you simply after one of the ARM designs, likely to run Windows RT? The x86 tablets are almost certainly going to be the more expensive option out of the two, so will that influence your decision?

As always, leave your votes in the poll below and any other feedback in the comments section. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!

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Would you buy an x86-based Windows 8 tablet?

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First, for the crackpots complaining about battery-life. We are talking x86 vs ARM. x86 is NEVER going to be as efficnet as ARM. That said, what do you want? Kiddie apps or real apps. You see the type of apps that run on ARM based devices? They are stripped to bare basics. What do you think Word for iOS or Android is going to be like vs the x86 version?

We are talking about a laptop basically stipped of its keyboard and lined with a capacitive touch-panel.

Pricing? The Atom versopns of the tablets will likely be priced right where ARM's ones are for about $499. I based that on this - http://www.ecrater.com/p/12048...-windows-7-atom-n455-1g-ddr

Any tablet with more power, like i3 or i5 will most certainly double in cost. again, you are talking a PC that will fit in your arm, will weight 3 lbs or less and be totally mobile. Many will still have user replacable batts. I expect these devcies will run just as long as a laptop with similar capabilities.

YES ! I want a 14 inch Tablet with Optional keyboard dock. and make sure it has good enough CPU for Super Street Fighter 4 :-D

There are a number of lightweight apps, games, etc that still run in Windows 7, (and ran on the 8 CP when I tested), that I'd LOVE to run on a tablet.

I'm hoping for a tablet in the same vein as the ASUS Transformer Prime. If I can get an x86 tablet with that form factor, I'll buy one.

No...

The only reason I use Windows on the desktop is because of the games and programs - but on a tablet it wouldn't have the power or battery time to use any of those (except the lightweight ones), and the same work would be preferred on a desktop.

That being said, I'd probably try another operating system (to move out of the Microsoft zone) and skip all restrictions and other stuff. The very same reason I use an Android phone. I don't want to lock myself to a single "company" (just look at Apple)... not to mention that Microsoft would probably throw out costs (as usual) to use it.

Linux would be the ultimate choice for me.

Tpiom said,
No...

The only reason I use Windows on the desktop is because of the games and programs - but on a tablet it wouldn't have the power or battery time to use any of those (except the lightweight ones), and the same work would be preferred on a desktop.

That being said, I'd probably try another operating system (to move out of the Microsoft zone) and skip all restrictions and other stuff. The very same reason I use an Android phone. I don't want to lock myself to a single "company" (just look at Apple)... not to mention that Microsoft would probably throw out costs (as usual) to use it.

Linux would be the ultimate choice for me.

And you would be wrong. An x86 in a tablet or desktop are the SAME. And i3 tablet will have the same capability as an i3 desktp. All that woudkl be different is the GPU. Likely tablets will mostly use Intel HD vs using an ATI or Nvidia dedicated GPU which would suck more juice. The x86 tablets are just single profile laptops. They can do whatever a laptop with similar hardware can do.

Learn your hardware. If you dont know what you're talking about, you should probably not say nothing.

I think it will be WOA for me hopefully a decent performing tablet with high res 10" screen, gps for £200

I'd absolutely buy an x86 based tablet- I've been wanting one for a while now because it would be useful when I'm out building cell sites. All the test and installation equipment I use has Windows based software and a tablet would be more easily utilized in the field than the laptop I'm currently using.

Pikey said,
Already got one here!

An Acer Iconia Tab W500 with Win 8 on it in case anyone was wondering ..

Is it good?

I am unsure whether to sell my laptop & get a W500 or wait till WOA tablets are released...

My uses can be categorized in 3 areas:
-Light: My Android GN will do
-Casual: A Ultrabook/Tablet
-Powerhouse: Desktop PC
For the tablet part
I would buy one like the Intel Cove point hybrid prototype:

-Powerful x86 proccesor so it can handle more than ARM processors.
-Touch screen designed for Win8
-At least 5 hours of battery use, 2 of heavy use.
-Full keyboard paired with x86 can have legacy applications like Visual Studio.
-It would be a HUGE plus (even deciding factor) that it had something like the new intel integrated 4000 graphics, not expecting Skyrim or BF3 but if it can run Team Fortress or Portal would be ****in amaing.

So basically an ultrabook in a tablet form (with or without integrated keyboard) that can do more than a smartphone and less than a regular laptop. More "normal-use" thing. ;

No. Already have a significant amount invested in iOS (apps, hardware, ecosystem). On top of that--what WinTel are offering in an x86-based tablet is far too overpriced and the desktop portion of Win8 isn't compelling enough for me to buy into it. Win7 on touchscreen is clumsy (at-best). Why would I want to take a step backwards?

WindowsSlave said,
No. Already have a significant amount invested in iOS (apps, hardware, ecosystem). On top of that--what WinTel are offering in an x86-based tablet is far too overpriced and the desktop portion of Win8 isn't compelling enough for me to buy into it. Win7 on touchscreen is clumsy (at-best). Why would I want to take a step backwards?

So you call yourself "WindowsSlave" but you are too invested in iOS to leave. Who are you really a slave to?

Years ago, one of the criticisms of Microsoft was the "Microsoft lock in", in effect you were forced to pay a "Microsoft tax" because they locked you into the ecosystem through software. Today, that criticism is used as a way of defending staying locked into iOS.

I just got an iPad 3. So I will wait out first generation W8 devices. Hopefully till then reviews will start pouring out for me to make a fair decision to dump Apple and make a switch or not.

Nope. The Windows Desktop and the apps that run on the "desktop" are not fun to use with a tablet. If people then say "stay in Metro" you might as well buy an ARM tablet.

warwagon said,
Nope. The Windows Desktop and the apps that run on the "desktop" are not fun to use with a tablet. If people then say "stay in Metro" you might as well buy an ARM tablet.

That's the point. That type of environment would fit a transformer perfectly.

Not at this point, since i still see tablets as toys. Since i have an iPhone it fulfills all my mobile needs.

I need a desk, a chair, a big monitor, a mouse, and a full keyboard. If I leave the house I have no use for the internet. No smartphones either.

I don't need a tablet but it's something nice to have just like that. It's not as important as a laptop or desktop to me. If I do get one, it will be an x86 one as it will give me higher value for money even though slightly less battery life than ARM. Then again, we don't have ANY benchmarks of battery life, who knows Intel will gradually catch up in terms of battery life.

Nope - don't have any interest in a tablet to be honest, regardless of manufacturer.

I have a smartphone which is fine for catching up on emails, tweets, facebook, etc.. and then switch to a Netbook if I need to do any more, and then I have my PC for everything else. Yet another device to clutter up my house with yet more technology to go out of date is un-necessary.

nope already have a tablet Asus T300 and a android Razr maxx phone so I have no use in buying a windows version till one of these break or several years from now. Microsoft just waited too damn long.

Probably not, I tend to prefer iOS/Android from a UI perspective and I really dislike the locked down ecosystem of iOS/Win8 Metro. The greater freedom of Android appeals to me, So I'll probably stick with Android for phone/tablet and Win7 for desktop usage.

The fact that the X86 tablets have the desktop isn't a meaningful advantage to me, as touch isn't well suited to most desktop applications and the tasks I run in the desktop wouldn't be remotely suited to a tablet anyway.

If the price is going to be as prohibitive as I expect, no. I'd much prefer an Android tablet over anything with Metro on it anyway but a tablet of any description is not a real must buy for me at the moment.

I will admit, I am personally interested in one of the Windows RT devices because my usage scenarios have changed. The fact that it will be bundled with Office 15 apps and you will still have access to File Explorer and Desktop IE, makes it a decent value. Hopefully it will be competively priced around $500 to $600 then I would pick up one.

I don't really want a tablet, but because I'm developing Android tablet apps my employer is getting me a Samsung Android tablet The only tablet I'd consider is one from Sony to be honest.

As Stumper just said, I agree, but i have the ipad and well its just boreing now, and i always wanted a windows tablet. I sold my laptop to get the ipad thinking it would do everything my laptop would do, man was i ever wrong there.

Just bought a Samsung Series 7 Slate. I have had two Android tablets and neither was as useful as my new Slate. I can run all my applications that I need for work and school with no problems and do it on a form factor that is truly easy to use. Windows 8 shines on this tablet and I look forward to the final release. Yes, the slate was expensive but it only cost 1/2 of what I paid for my laptop and works just as well. No interest in an Arm tablet. I think they will be the same as the netbooks. Underpowered and only providing 1/2 of the true Windows experience.

I would, even if it costs up to 2000$. BUT if it does have reasonable specs (especially regarding GPU, screen size and resolution, 1600x900 14" would be just right) and quality, and can be properly expanded via docking station with additional ports. I'm most interested in tablet/laptop hybrid like Acer Iconia (with two screens), but current model doesn't have reasonable GPU and screens quality and resolution are quite low.

Absolutely yes! And I'd be willing to pay well over $1000 for it. I'm on a train or bus over three hours a day for my commute. My employer let's me use that time as part of my work day, as long as I'm logged in and am able to use Outlook, Office, Visual Studio, RDP, etc... I'm a manager, so as long as I'm in the physical office for around five hours a day everyone is happy.

Right now, I'm using a laptop to stay connected during my commute. It's an OK solution, but being able to use a powerful Windows 8 tablet where I can run the applications I need from the desktop is my dream right now. It's the only reason I haven't jumped to the iPad, as that really won't help me at all. My $100 Touchpad is doing a fantastic job for when I want to jack out of the office and just browse, Reddit, and read. I'm willing to pay probably close to $1,500 for a Windows 8 (x86) tablet, if it can perform all my work requirements and also allow me to unplug and go into non-work mode.

So yeah, I'm willing to pay a lot for something like this. Actually almost did a couple of months ago after trying the current Samsung tablet at a Microsoft Store that was running Windows 8, but I'm holding off for an official Win8 tablet.

Office on ARM with a freaking keyboard and a touch screen will be huge. Wait and see. Throw in a GPS and it will be a winner with me. I gave up on video editing while traveling anyway.

People have been waiting for Windows 8 on a tablet. Windows 7 was not good enough because it wasn't suited to a tablet.....whereas Windows 8 is !!!
The main reason people wwere waiting for windows on a tablet was so that they could transfer that work that they did on a tablet to a PC .......and the only one that is "going" to be suitable is Windows 8.
They can sell equipment that has Android as the OS till hell freezes over......but nothing will be as good as windows so as to go cross equipment like windows 8 will do.
Whether you are a user of another OS or not "NO ONE" can deny this one fact.

Probably would, if priced decently. Already have a couple x86 based tablets running Windows 7, know the battery life is less than stellar. (Ok, I'm happy when I get more than 30 seconds out of it) but pretty happy with them otherwise, and I can still pick what I want to run on it, not just Metro apps. Not that I'm knocking Metro or RT, rather looking forward to that, still considering an ARM tablet too.

I've been pondering on this very question for a while now. I'm waiting for a Windows 8 x86 or Windows RT tablet to make my decision and I want a transformer type one.
My first instict is to go with an ARM/Windows RT tablet as I will probably never use it as a work or core gaming environment device, that will remain for my workstations and Xbox 360.
It has the Office programs I need integrated from the get go (so I can use it for last minute alterations to files or for presentations.
The battery life of an ARM device is also a lot better and the apps/touch games that I would spend little time with on the device are easily ported anyway.
I'll need to see what advantages an x86 tablet has and what kind of effect that has on my personal daily use. Unless Windows RT turns out to be a complete PoS, I don't see it right now.

Thief000 said,

I need to see what advantages an x86 tablet has and what kind of effect that has on my personal daily use. Unless Windows RT turns out to be a complete PoS, I don't see it right now.

From what I see the advantage is with x86 now .It's basically your full blown laptop++ .It'll run all your existing programs . Plus the new metro apps . It would have 8-9 hours battery life on average ,which is decent. The only stumbling block would be the price . I think which would be above your average laptop price . IMO If you are willing to pay an x86 tablet would be an excellent choice for both work and play.

gawicks said,

From what I see the advantage is with x86 now .It's basically your full blown laptop++ .It'll run all your existing programs . Plus the new metro apps . It would have 8-9 hours battery life on average ,which is decent. The only stumbling block would be the price . I think which would be above your average laptop price . IMO If you are willing to pay an x86 tablet would be an excellent choice for both work and play.

Yeah, but the question is, do you need all those legacy apps?
I can see it being useful as a work environment device (though I'd much rather sit at my workspace with everything in reach anyway), but as a consumer device for browsing the web and checking my email, I sure as hell don't! Like I said, the MS Office applications I use are already a part of Windows RT and that is enough for me.
And then there is the "play". Touch devices simply aren't enough for core gamers like myself. It's PC and Xbox 360 that satisfy me in that department.

thealexweb said,

Which one? Price and specs?

Samsung Series 7 Slate is pretty much the best available right now. Starts at $1000 I believe.

mrp04 said,

Samsung Series 7 Slate is pretty much the best available right now. Starts at $1000 I believe.

$1000? How? Why? Yeh x86 tablets are so gonna be a niche product unless the prices halves quickly xD

thealexweb said,

$1000? How? Why? Yeh x86 tablets are so gonna be a niche product unless the prices halves quickly xD

As long as you don't expect to get a Core i5 for $499, I'm sure you'll be able to find one at that price.

DClark said,
"Yes, at any cost" is such a silly proposition. That is my opinion. Good night.

That is a perfectly valid opinion. I won't pay tens of thousands for a tablet, for sure!

tiagosilva29 said,
All the weekend polls with exception of the first one (do you own a tablet) have been Microsoft-centered.

Cool story, bro'.

If it was up to me this website would be Microsoft-centered.

tiagosilva29 said,
All the weekend polls with exception of the first one (do you own a tablet) have been Microsoft-centered.

Cool story, bro'.

Last I checked, this website wasnt called Neomac or Neoogle.

Scorpus said,
Also, you missed a few such as ...

No, you failed to 'tag' them. It is funny that "tagging is a requirement" in the forums and the same standard doesn't work here.

tiagosilva29 said,
All the weekend polls with exception of the first one (do you own a tablet) have been Microsoft-centered.

Cool story, bro'.


That's true actually. It might be nice to have other subject areas too.

dagamer34 said,

Last I checked, this website wasnt called Neomac or Neoogle.


Yeah but it gets a bit boring if everything is about Microsoft. Diversification is the key here.

simplezz said,

Yeah but it gets a bit boring if everything is about Microsoft. Diversification is the key here.

I would think that you would want only MS stories, because it would give you more chances to whine and complain.

Yes. ARM tablets feel a bit useless now at least for what I do. Gotta have that Visual Studio! But it does not change the fact that Microsoft made a great business decision by porting Windows to ARM.

Yes but............ I want a convertible Tablet with full handwriting support and a more powerful processor than an Atom, something like an iCore 5 at least; five hours of battery life is enough for me. I am not heading to Afghanistan where plugin my device and recharge it could be an issue.
In other words I will buy a replacement for my actual Toshiba M400 Tablet; I do not want to downgrade from what I already have.
The bottom line is: different people have different priorities ad different needs; one size does not fit all.

Fritzly said,
Yes but............ I want a convertible Tablet with full handwriting support and a more powerful processor than an Atom, something like an iCore 5 at least; five hours of battery life is enough for me. I am not heading to Afghanistan where plugin my device and recharge it could be an issue.
In other words I will buy a replacement for my actual Toshiba M400 Tablet; I do not want to downgrade from what I already have.
The bottom line is: different people have different priorities ad different needs; one size does not fit all.

Basically a Samsung Series 7 Slate with a more efficient CPU. That already meets all your requirements other than 5 hours, it does about 4. It also has a docking port at the bottom, unfortunately they never released a keyboard dock for it which would make it a pretty awesome laptop/tablet.

mrp04 said,

It also has a docking port at the bottom, unfortunately they never released a keyboard dock for it which would make it a pretty awesome laptop/tablet.

Personally I do not like "Slate" devices: I travel a lot and a "Convertible" not only gives me an integrated keyboard but also protect the screen while the device is carried in my briefcase.
Granted if I was a Doctor in a hospital or spending most of my times in an office a "Slate" appeal would greatly increase.

I am Not PCyr said,
Nope
Already have a cell phone + pmp

Also wouldn't buy any portable big enough to be a tablet ever..
Buy a laptop instead

+1

A Galaxy Note and a powerful thin notebook is all I need.

In theory yes, in reality the battery life will be poor so no. Intel promises every year it's chips will be much more power efficient and yet they still aren't anywhere near as good at conserving power as Arm's are.

Yea, this exactly. I did pick "if reasonably priced" above as it only involved prices and x86 vs Arm in the answers, it would still have to have the kind of battery life expected of a tablet, so around 10 hours use and a very long standby time.

Agreed. I'd like to play around with one, but I wouldn't stump up the money (and we know it's going to be expensive) for a power hungry, low performance atom tablet.

The ARM version will no doubt be much better in terms of performance per watt. But then you have the lack of applications. Perhaps once enough metro apps get written it might be viable.

thealexweb said,
In theory yes, in reality the battery life will be poor so no. Intel promises every year it's chips will be much more power efficient and yet they still aren't anywhere near as good at conserving power as Arm's are.

Not necessarily true - Clover Trail is a follow up of it's Medfield chips if I'm not mistaken - a chip which performs with relatively comparable battery life to other mobile chips inside smartphones. Clover Field is more powerful than Medfield so we might see about 10% less battery life, but in tablets that last 9-10 hours that's only bringing it down an hour, still extremely respectable.

(Of course, then you have the inherent differences of x86 tablets actually being able to run far more background process' and intensive desktop applications compared to WinRT tablets though).

Edited by ~Johnny, May 27 2012, 12:35pm :

thealexweb said,
In theory yes, in reality the battery life will be poor so no. Intel promises every year it's chips will be much more power efficient and yet they still aren't anywhere near as good at conserving power as Arm's are.
My Asus Ultrabook has damn good battery life. I get 6-8 hours on a full charge when I'm sitting there writing and testing code. I have no idea what the battery is like watching DVD's, Divx, MP4, etc. My point is that Intel has clearly made advancements in x86 power efficiencies which leads me to believe a new Atom would be very efficient. I'm not saying its comparable to ARM but I do think they've come along way lately in regards to power consumption and new products designed to be mobile will be far more efficient than recent models.

thealexweb said,
In theory yes, in reality the battery life will be poor so no. Intel promises every year it's chips will be much more power efficient and yet they still aren't anywhere near as good at conserving power as Arm's are.

Do not think anymore of Intel. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather get an AMD tablet. Right now, AMD Trinity blows any Ivy Bridge chip in graphics and it's far way less power hunger. Furthermore, thanks to DirectX/GPU acceleration applications becoming more common, it's a bigger winner for AMD.

thealexweb said,
In theory yes, in reality the battery life will be poor so no. Intel promises every year it's chips will be much more power efficient and yet they still aren't anywhere near as good at conserving power as Arm's are.

Coming from someone who uses a Netscape gif- I believe that you have no credibility. I would buy one for the right price though.

KillTheIrishman said,

Coming from someone who uses a Netscape gif- I believe that you have no credibility. I would buy one for the right price though.

Oi! I keep meaning to change it, I just keep it for the novelty, besides I use Chrome now and it's rumoured AOL sold the Netscape brand to Microsoft a few weeks ago anyway Also someone with only 240 posts and a rather questionable username has no credibility whatsoever frankly...

Jose_49 said,

Do not think anymore of Intel. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd rather get an AMD tablet. Right now, AMD Trinity blows any Ivy Bridge chip in graphics and it's far way less power hunger. Furthermore, thanks to DirectX/GPU acceleration applications becoming more common, it's a bigger winner for AMD.

AMD are embracing Arm as well as x86, that will be key in them being more successful in the mobile devices segment than Intel.

thealexweb said,
In theory yes, in reality the battery life will be poor so no. Intel promises every year it's chips will be much more power efficient and yet they still aren't anywhere near as good at conserving power as Arm's are.

You are trying to compare the cpmplexity of how X96 works vs an ARm chip? A iGhz x86 chip can do way more than a 1Ghz ARM based chip. An ARM chip couldn't even handle Microsoft Word without a rewrite and takign stuff out.

I think the fact that my dualcore i7 can still get 4hours on a 9cell battery is sufficient for a battery that is so small.

You cant expect a AAA battery to las as long as a car battery would. if you do you are in for a disappointment.

You need to look around. The Samsung tablet using x86 chips gets up to 10hrs on a full charge.

TechieXP said,

You are trying to compare the cpmplexity of how X96 works vs an ARm chip? A iGhz x86 chip can do way more than a 1Ghz ARM based chip. An ARM chip couldn't even handle Microsoft Word without a rewrite and takign stuff out.

I think the fact that my dualcore i7 can still get 4hours on a 9cell battery is sufficient for a battery that is so small.

You cant expect a AAA battery to las as long as a car battery would. if you do you are in for a disappointment.

You need to look around. The Samsung tablet using x86 chips gets up to 10hrs on a full charge.

Yes a x86 CPU at the same clock speed can do much more than an Arm, I'm just saying as a general rule when it's comes to power consumption ARM is years ahead.