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Why I won't be buying the iPhone 5

I'm sure you've read your fair share of "why I'm buying an iPhone 5" and "why I'm not" editorials this week, but I don't think that many of them have considered the actual human factor in the equation. It doesn't matter that Apple hasn't changed the world, it matters that they don't understand how personal the phone is yet.

The iPhone 5 hardware is incredibly gorgeous, and has some pretty impressive new features to match, but Apple has not addressed the one thing that’s always bothered me about iOS. The iPhone just isn’t personal. It doesn’t know me and allow me to adjust it to make it my personal phone. I don’t think they understand that their end users aren’t a big faceless group of people.

The most customization you can do to your iPhone is rearranging the icons and changing your background, and the best way your phone can let you know about things? A tiny number off the top corner of things. Every iPhone is the same, no matter who is using it.

Everyone has one, and they all look the same. Go out in a public place, right now. Look around, and observe all the people tapping away into their iPhone. They are literally everywhere you turn.

When you review phones on a regular basis, you go down one of a few paths. You can go down the path of most who crave big numbers on paper to make their smartphones incredible, or you are worried about how the phone improves your life (the hardware is still important, but in different ways). I want my phone to know me. I want it to be personal to me, and I want it to feel like it isn’t just another device that gets pushed out once a year. Apple doesn't understand how personal the phone can be to the end user, and it's clear in the latest release of iOS that they aren't going to get it any time soon.

When Nokia made it’s announcement about the Lumia 920 last week, I wasn’t too impressed, but I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about Windows Phone 8, and it hit me all of a sudden when I saw this video published by Microsoft back in June which illustrates my point perfectly.

The thing is, Microsoft gets it. They’re completely right. Live tiles actually do make the technology disappear.

Windows Phone 7 may have been riddled with a slow launch and a considerable amount of missing features, but they truly understand how a phone relates to an actual person. It’s something the user is going to spend a lot of time with, and Microsoft understands that it should try as hard as it can to intimately get to know the user. Windows Phone 8 takes this even further.

They do this through a combination of basic stuff too. Customizable colors. Big pictures of their friends. Social Integration. Start screen customization. The list goes on and on.

was an early adopter of Windows Phone 7, and had one of the first handsets released to the world, but I grew tired of the platform because updates were slow and unexciting (and generally just added features everyone else already has) and there were a lot of applications coming out I really wanted to use on other platforms, so I switched. Despite that, I actually realized that I don’t think I’ve ever been happier with how consistently well Windows Phone works, and the only reason I moved away is because I'm obsessed with shiny things.

It’s not about specifications; they shouldn’t even need to matter anymore. How many gigahertz or cores a phone has, or memory it has onboard is completely irrelevant unless we're talking about budget low-end Android phones. We’re at the point where it doesn’t matter at all and I don’t care about that stuff. It's getting tiring.

Android may offer customization, but my experience with it so far is the manufacturer skins are horrible, and third party widgets and apps that actually look remotely good on the platform are few and far between. It’s tiringly inconsistent.

With the announcement of Windows Phone 8, Microsoft has all of its eggs in one basket. Their feature set matches that of competitors. They’re in a position to finally be able to influence the market for good, and I am gunning for them. It doesn’t matter anymore if all the major applications aren’t there yet. This phone is good enough to stand on it’s own, and because of that the applications will come.

I want Windows Phone 8 to succeed, because Microsoft is the only one who truly understands that end users are real people. That's why I won't be buying the iPhone 5, and I will be buying a Windows Phone. 

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First, a congratulation is in order that Neowin turned me into someone who actually dislike Microsoft now, unlike before, after the following editorial and now this one.

http://www.neowin.net/news/cal...akes-you-look-like-an-idiot

I must address your customisation claim in Windows Phone. So basically you are saying if the Facebook app displays my friends' photos on the Tile not yours that is called a customisation feature? I don't know how you can get away with that.

not bad of a story
i like the competition angle at the end.. that's always a good thing.

I can say my opinion on Apples products in many ways.
Their customers are Lemmings.
Or ignorant consumers that don't know there is something better available..
And that applies to ALL their products.

As much as a I hate all fruit crap i'm glad they are around feeding marketplace competition.

I don't get it. I have jailbroken my iDevice years ago, it runs the same way as before and I can costumize it the way I want. For example, I got a costum SpringBoard Rotator, an wonderful HD Icon package and SB Settings, which were all free and let me set my Apple Device the way I want. I, too, can't stand the default Icons and interface, because I think they look boring, so I change them like I prefer.

Sure this is an extra step to take, but even Kids can do that ( I mean, download the Jb, follow the instructions and it's done, how hard can that be ? ).

I know that you don't need to do that if you have an Android or whatever OS, but the possibility is there and you can't neglect that.

One point to this report?

But an important one. I am half in agreement but my only problem with Windows Phone is the lack of apps. Although I don't play it, Angry Birds is FREE on Android, yet it's charged for on WP. Many apps I use also simply aren't available on Windows Phone, however come December and a little playing around in the store, I may be swayed to a Nokia.

Nokia is sooo 1990's though

I have an array of Apple Products: iMac, iPad, Apple TV, iPhone 4s, and Macbook Pro so, as you might tell, I like their products.

But, in terms of this article, you are absolutely right. Apple doesn't recognise their users as individuals but rather they funnel them into a single interface. Now, whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is subjective of course.

Like you, I won't be buying the iPhone 5 but that is because I own the 4s and Apple haven't put enough into the 5 to make me feel that I need to upgrade. However, there is no way you could get me to use an Android phone. I tried it with my previous HTC phone and detested the marketplace with every fibre of my being, for much of the reason you stated; the quality and randomness of the apps.

Many see Apple's restriction on their store as a negative but I see it as a positive. It is very rare indeed that I download an App from the Apple store and am disappointed with the way it looks or works. There is a consistency and I like that. Does an MS phone have this? I have no idea. If they did, then yes, I could see a time in the future when I would consider dipping my feet back into the MS camp (as indeed I used to).

zoonyx said,
I'm in the apple ecosystem and I like it.

Sorry


Same here. I stay with iPhone largely because of the other products ALSO holding such a high standard. Besides, App Store. It's simply the best app market in the world.

Don't really care about live tiles, it's not like you sit staring at your screen waiting for updates, you want an update you click on the app... the live tiles look nice but in reality they don't bring much to the table.

I'm sucked well into the Apple eco-system, probably a bad thing because i do like the Lumia 920 but now rely to heavily on iTunes store, my app purchases, iCloud etc to even think about switching.

Sick of hearing why people aren't buying the iPhone 5. Who cares? buy what you want and stfu, do you think apple cares a couple of people on some biased website dont want their phone when they surpass 2million pre-orders in a day. They are doing something right so why should they change for a couple of 'unprofessional journalists' on a website.

Competition is good, the devices are completely different.. that is also good... it sounds like you want the iPhone to be like the Lumia, but then if it was this article would be titled 'Why Apple copied Microsoft'.

BAHHH!!!

Whilst I agree with some of the points, I feel it's unfair to iPhone users. I bought mine based on the fact that I had an iPod Touch and liked the OS and design. Nothing more or less. I just feel like it's unfair that some people try and pressure others into getting devices they like. I picked my phone because of my own opinion, and I don't care if I'm an iSheep or not. I'd rather just be able to use what I like without getting pressured into switching.

To the Willy:
Who the hell do you think cares you buy iphone 5 or not? Don't you have anything else to do than writing articles like this? Put this confession of yours in your diary...

I bought an iPhone 5 because my contract was up and the money I got for selling my 4S covered the cost and left me with change. I personally think that the iPhone is the nicest looking phone hardware/software wise and the Lumia would be a close second. I've never used a Windows phone personally, but judging by the video (and using live tiles on Windows 8) the UI looks beautiful and much more consistent than Android's.

The iPhone just isn't personal. It doesn't know me and allow me to adjust it to make it my personal phone. I don't think they understand that their end users aren't a big faceless group of people.
Actually I think this is where Apple shines. They understand that their users DON'T want to spend hours looking for themes and icon sets etc (most of them being garbage).

I want a phone that looks great out of the box

Rudy said,
Actually I think this is where Apple shines. They understand that their users DON'T want to spend hours looking for themes and icon sets etc (most of them being garbage).

I want a phone that looks great out of the box

Plus there is the factor of having that one ecosystem to support. They all run the same, work the same, so when something goes wrong it's much easier to solve it since the same solution will work in every case. With other phones, you have to worry about which jailbreak, what version of the OS, that 3rd party custom apps, what non-standard customizations might be gumming up the works.

A similar issue to why consoles are easier to program for than a Windows PC, all examples of a model have the same basic guts.

In addition, there is the point you mention about people just wanting something that works without having to try and become system admins.

Rudy said,
Actually I think this is where Apple shines. They understand that their users DON'T want to spend hours looking for themes and icon sets etc (most of them being garbage).

I want a phone that looks great out of the box

Agreed. I'd really rather not spend time making home screens and adjusting widgets and whatnot. iOS is great because it's efficient and easy to use. "It just works". I don't always agree with the choices Apple makes (hence jailbreak tweaks) but overall they are great at making an easy to use user interface. I don't need my phone to be personal, I just need it to do the things I do well. So the article makes a big assumption that all people want to customize and make a device their own.

I won't be buying the iPhone 5 though as my 4 (not even S) is fast enough, has a great screen and works like a charm. We've now entered a state where smartphones regardless of brand are not bringing anything more than spec bumps. The operating systems are also starting to be mature. You can pick something like a Galaxy S3 or Lumia or iPhone and they'll all be really great phones. They will all also be "boring" but that's just because you're used to them now.

Hopefully next year we will have something truly new.

Rudy said,
Actually I think this is where Apple shines. They understand that their users DON'T want to spend hours looking for themes and icon sets etc (most of them being garbage).

I want a phone that looks great out of the box


Thank you.
And the same is so true for PC too.
How many Windows users spend tons of time fiddling with settings, themes, icons (there's literally thousands of sites dedicated to "customizing" your desktop and a bunch of paid apps)?
When I get a new Mac, I move the dock to the left of the screen and double check the mouse / trackpad settings and I'm ready to get work done.

a0me said,

Thank you.
And the same is so true for PC too.
How many Windows users spend tons of time fiddling with settings, themes, icons (there's literally thousands of sites dedicated to "customizing" your desktop and a bunch of paid apps)?
When I get a new Mac, I move the dock to the left of the screen and double check the mouse / trackpad settings and I'm ready to get work done.

The difference is that you CAN customize WIndows appearance IF you want to do it, if not you can leave it as it is.
Why nowadays a lot of people seem to have problems with choices? I do not understand it....

Fritzly said,

The difference is that you CAN customize WIndows appearance IF you want to do it, if not you can leave it as it is.
Why nowadays a lot of people seem to have problems with choices? I do not understand it....


You can customize Mac OS X appearance if you WANT to (there's even an app (ShapeShifter) for that). It's just that almost nobody does because the default interface works for the majority of users.

I certainly WILL be buying an iPhone 5. I'll be buying because it's the start of a revolution and shows that Apple isn't afraid to innovate. Look at their screen. Everyone in the world produces mobile phones with a boring old 16 X 9 aspect ratio display - mostly, so they tell us, because they're ideal to display 16 X 9 movies or TV programs. But did Apple stick to this meaningless status quo? Are Apple boxed into 16 X 9? Are they heck.

No. With the iPhone 5 Apple have boldly produced a phone with a spiffing 71 X 40 aspect ratio. No good at all for watching 16 X 9 movies, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the entire movie industry abandons 16 X 9 and follows Apple's 71 X 40 lead. Soon all movies and TV programs will be in 71 X 40 and we'll all throw away our 42" TVs and buy the new 71 X 40 AppleTV when it comes out.

The other thing I like is the new connector. OK, so it can't connect to anything yet, but it can't connect to them in two different ways! This is the start of a revolution.

Major Plonquer said,
I certainly WILL be buying an iPhone 5. I'll be buying because it's the start of a revolution and shows that Apple isn't afraid to innovate. Look at their screen. Everyone in the world produces mobile phones with a boring old 16 X 9 aspect ratio display - mostly, so they tell us, because they're ideal to display 16 X 9 movies or TV programs. But did Apple stick to this meaningless status quo? Are Apple boxed into 16 X 9? Are they heck.

No. With the iPhone 5 Apple have boldly produced a phone with a spiffing 71 X 40 aspect ratio. No good at all for watching 16 X 9 movies, but I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the entire movie industry abandons 16 X 9 and follows Apple's 71 X 40 lead. Soon all movies and TV programs will be in 71 X 40 and we'll all throw away our 42" TVs and buy the new 71 X 40 AppleTV when it comes out.

The other thing I like is the new connector. OK, so it can't connect to anything yet, but it can't connect to them in two different ways! This is the start of a revolution.

LOL Major, your sarcasm is a touch too subtle methinks I like!

I don't think they understand that their end users aren't a big faceless group of people.

I don't think YOU understand their end users! /s

This is the reason I prefer android even though I only have a cheap low end model. I have all kinds of fun installing custom roms and tweaking things to my liking, I can only imagine what I would do if I had one of the high end android smart phones.

snorge said,
This is the reason I prefer android even though I only have a cheap low end model. I have all kinds of fun installing custom roms and tweaking things to my liking, I can only imagine what I would do if I had one of the high end android smart phones.

It's amazing.

I am so fed up with the statement, "People buy iPhones just because there iPhones". That is completely unfair and false.

I buy them because for me it is the most powerful, nicest, and best OS on a phone I have used. That is why.

I don't need freakin live tiles or widgets. I'll just take 2 seconds and open up the app instead.

Also, there is customization. Just go into settings and customize to your delight. Might not be as much as android, but I could care less. I want a phone that just works and so far the iPhone does that.

There is a reason it sells as many as it does and for most, it's just not so they can say they have an iPhone. They truly love the device and the OS. What is wrong with that?

Boyd Petersen said,
I am so fed up with the statement, "People buy iPhones just because there iPhones". That is completely unfair and false.

I buy them because for me it is the most powerful, nicest, and best OS on a phone I have used. That is why.

I don't need freakin live tiles or widgets. I'll just take 2 seconds and open up the app instead.

Also, there is customization. Just go into settings and customize to your delight. Might not be as much as android, but I could care less. I want a phone that just works and so far the iPhone does that.

There is a reason it sells as many as it does and for most, it's just not so they can say they have an iPhone. They truly love the device and the OS. What is wrong with that?


Said like a good iSheep should, of course you don't get it, you actually fell for the whole "Apple cool" thing they've been trying to force on everyone, yet you look ridiculous with your identical phone that all the other iSheep have

z0phi3l said,


Said like a good iSheep should, of course you don't get it, you actually fell for the whole "Apple cool" thing they've been trying to force on everyone, yet you look ridiculous with your identical phone that all the other iSheep have

Hold on you may not agree with HIS choice, but calling him a iSheep WTF. Hey aSheep, why is it you need to root your phone and install a custom ROM just to get the best performance out of it. And when are wSheep phones going to be able to have a wallpaper behind there live tiles. The Windows 7 Phone works great AS A PHONE. if you want a media device get a iPhone and if you want something to pull apart and decide what you want to do with it get a Android. Ive used all three and enjoy parts of each. But at the end of the day i respect a person's choice, and cant stand people who seem to think they know more and laugh at others who decide to not follow them. BTW im not a fan of the new iPhone and looking forward to upgrading my current Windows 7 Phone to a Nokia Windows 8 Phone (if Nokia decide to release them)

Boyd Petersen said,
I am so fed up with the statement, "People buy iPhones just because there iPhones". That is completely unfair and false.

I buy them because for me it is the most powerful, nicest, and best OS on a phone I have used. That is why.

I don't need freakin live tiles or widgets. I'll just take 2 seconds and open up the app instead.

Also, there is customization. Just go into settings and customize to your delight. Might not be as much as android, but I could care less. I want a phone that just works and so far the iPhone does that.

There is a reason it sells as many as it does and for most, it's just not so they can say they have an iPhone. They truly love the device and the OS. What is wrong with that?

Not completely false as you assume. Look at the most popular apps from time to time. They are weather apps. People like to turn their phone on and look at it for a bit, not click an app every 2 seconds and check a bunch of stuff.

In the end, it's about what you like to do. I think the majority of people that have an iPhone upgrade to another one because they can't really try another OS for a long period of time.

z0phi3l said,

Said like a good iSheep should, of course you don't get it, you actually fell for the whole "Apple cool" thing they've been trying to force on everyone, yet you look ridiculous with your identical phone that all the other iSheep have

Wow. I hope that was sarcasm......

z0phi3l said,


Said like a good iSheep should, of course you don't get it, you actually fell for the whole "Apple cool" thing they've been trying to force on everyone, yet you look ridiculous with your identical phone that all the other iSheep have

I'll gladly be labeled an iSheep if you consider that as being one. I just don't care to root my device and flash all these different roms on my phone, I was an early adaptor of Android and I didn't have access to Cynogen back then, but I decided to leave Android to mature but I've been so used with my iPhone that it now syncs with my computer with little effort. Blame me for not wanting to spend time customising and actually living my life.

I think the s3 is great, I've had one for a few weeks but decided to just skip the upgrade. Android did improve tenfold since 2.0.1, but I didn't want to repurchase new applications or find replacements.

I don't see why paying a little more money for a luxury item is bad. If I pay for a luxury item with my own money then why would any else need to give a damn about my decision. Less worrying about my phone, and play more with yours. I'm happy and content and so are you. The end.

z0phi3l said,


Said like a good iSheep should, of course you don't get it, you actually fell for the whole "Apple cool" thing they've been trying to force on everyone, yet you look ridiculous with your identical phone that all the other iSheep have

Why people cannot accept that other individuals may have different preferences, tastes and needs therefore have to insult them is beyond my understanding. Maybe a psychiatrist could understand and explain this issue.
I have a WP phone because it is what I like it; it is not a perfect device, it has limits and issues but for me the advantages overcome the disadvantages...... for now.

z0phi3l said,


Said like a good iSheep should, of course you don't get it, you actually fell for the whole "Apple cool" thing they've been trying to force on everyone, yet you look ridiculous with your identical phone that all the other iSheep have


Hope you like whatever phone you got.
I've tried many Android and WP7 smartphones and didn't care for any of them. I understand why some people like other phones but for my own use, iPhone is the best smartphone I've used, period.
I don't have a cool case for it, I haven't even changed the default wallpaper.
Trying to look different for the sake of looking different always seemed pointless to me, but whatever floats your boat.

Leopoldo Dante Rodriguez said,
Its official the iPhone has become this generation's razr flip phone. Remember when that phone came out everyone wanted one then everyone got one then they couldn't give it away.

I miss mine like crazy. I could throw that thing around all day, and it wouldn't break.

Leopoldo Dante Rodriguez said,
Its official the iPhone has become this generation's razr flip phone. Remember when that phone came out everyone wanted one then everyone got one then they couldn't give it away.

agreed, except not in Scotland, after Motorola got our Govt to invest over £2m in a factory in the central belt then pulled out of the deal leaving us with an empty paid for factory. I believe Hyundai eventually took the plant on, I have (and a lot of other Scots) have avoided Motorola gear like the plague since.

i'm an apple guy but i really do hope microsoft pulls this off. competition is good for all and the concept really does look good. it's just that microsoft has a bad history of over-promising and under-delivering.

and the best way your phone can let you know about things? A tiny number off the top corner of things.

That's not the best way. Notification center?

I could have sworn id seen a 'why i wont be buying an iphone 5' editorial already. The one with the iSheep logo in it.

If iOS isn't personal enough because you cant customize it, how do you feel about WP which has the customization of... 5 tile colours?

Edited by Joswin, Sep 19 2012, 12:35am :

JessJess said,

That's not the best way. Notification center?

I could have sworn id seen a 'why i wont be buying an iphone 5' editorial already. The one with the iSheep logo in it.

If iOS isn't personal enough because you cant customize it, how do you feel about WP which has the customization of... 5 tile colours?

I think your missing the point.. He is talking about the tiles themselves, not changing the color. Although I did enjoy changing the color every few weeks on wp7. Keeps it interesting.

Very good article !
I totally agree, most people I know just want an Iphone because it is the latest Iphone from Apple, nothing else.

@Leo said,

Frankly, my durr, I don't give a damn.

Exactly.. no one gives a monkeys if you get one or not... this blog post is simply a bash at the new iphone 5. since it pretty much floors any mobile device out there from the benchmarks..

JessJess said,

I definitely agree that you agree with this article!


And I definitely agree that ALL people in here agree with this GOOD article !

Iphone fans, please wake up and open your eyes !

ingramator said,
I definitely agree with this article!

I don't - but I understand why many would.

I used to love customizing the heck out of my electronics. It was part of the fun of having them, and made them feel more like they were unique to me. At this point in my life (and for the foreseeable future, up until I retire), I don't have the time to muck around with customizations. Changing the wallpaper is about as far as I'll go.

The iOS interface looks nice and works nicely; I can't think of how I would change it to work better for me. My phone may look and function the same as everyone else's, but that's no longer what matters to me now: it's all about the usage. Apple's workflow may not be perfect, but it works very well for me. The data on my devices is what's really important to me now, and synchronization between my iPhone, iPad, and computer is effortless.

I understand the people who want to customize their devices, and I think it's unfortunate that Apple doesn't give them more options. Speaking for myself, though, I probably wouldn't make use of those options even if they existed. I'm happy with the workflow and appearance as they've made it; it works well for me. If most consumers feel similarly as I do, then Apple hasn't misjudged the market at all.

+1 for mentioning the iPhone 5 without using the word "marvel" anywhere in your article. It's been a bit of a drinking game for me since the announcement.

Android may offer customization, but my experience with it so far is the manufacturer skins are horrible, and third party widgets and apps that actually look remotely good on the platform are few and far between. It's tiringly inconsistent.

This is true, and the good-looking widgets then have to be checked for how hard they are on the battery, narrowing the count down further. That doesn't mean there aren't great overall widgets, but they're buried under a polluted mess of an app store that's rabidly defended by a crowd of people who have convinced themselves that there's no such thing as "too much choice" (no matter how thoroughly this belief has been disproven, time and time again, across psychology and sociology and business).

I don't care for iphones, but if that trips your boat...so be it, but, I think the author is WRONG
on this statement:
I don't think they understand that their end users aren't a big faceless group of people.

Yes, I think they are...or they wouldn't be selling so d*mn many of the iJunk devices

naap51stang said,
I don't care for iphones, but if that trips your boat...so be it, but, I think the author is WRONG
on this statement:
I don't think they understand that their end users aren't a big faceless group of people.

Yes, I think they are...or they wouldn't be selling so d*mn many of the iJunk devices


People who buy Iphones just buy them because it's an Iphone. Haven't you seen the video about the people in the street with the 4S thinking it was a 5 ? That's those kind of people (n00bs) that are going to buy THE Iphone

PaCpiS said,

People who buy Iphones just buy them because it's an Iphone. Haven't you seen the video about the people in the street with the 4S thinking it was a 5 ? That's those kind of people (n00bs) that are going to buy THE Iphone

that is true, there's really not that much different between the 4s and the 5, or even the 4... people always say 'but it's faster!' and i always ask 'what do you do that needs that extra .1 second shaved off to justify spending $300?' now if someone has a 3, then yea, i can see upgrading

Buttus said,

that is true, there's really not that much different between the 4s and the 5, or even the 4... people always say 'but it's faster!' and i always ask 'what do you do that needs that extra .1 second shaved off to justify spending $300?' now if someone has a 3, then yea, i can see upgrading


You just need to feeeeeeel it man, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXr1kmuqGcU

PaCpiS said,

People who buy Iphones just buy them because it's an Iphone. Haven't you seen the video about the people in the street with the 4S thinking it was a 5 ? That's those kind of people (n00bs) that are going to buy THE Iphone

Do you still believe that this video wasn't staged?

PaCpiS said,

People who buy Iphones just buy them because it's an Iphone. Haven't you seen the video about the people in the street with the 4S thinking it was a 5 ? That's those kind of people (n00bs) that are going to buy THE Iphone
thanks for generalizing and ditching everyone in the same boat.

The thing is, Microsoft gets it. They're completely right. Live tiles actually do make the technology disappear.

Too bad many apps don't utilize them, leaving me with static icons on my Nokia Lumia 900 all the same.

PS The reason I won't be getting an iPhone 5 is because I find it boring. It has the same basic design as the past two iPhones and there's just nothing new of interest in iOS 6. I installed the GM on my new iPad and was pretty upset with the lack of additional features. Apart from the turn by turn navigation Apple's Maps app is a huge step backwards from Google Maps.

Windows Phone is radically different and takes on a new fresh approach to interface design. I also really liked the design of the Nokia Lumia 900. It wasn't because I had the feeling Microsoft gets me more than Apple. If Microsoft actually gets me they would allow me to sync my bookmarks, contacts and calendar appointments directly from my Mac.

.Neo said,

Too bad many apps don't utilize them, leaving me with static icons on my Nokia Lumia 900 all the same.

Part of the problem is server cost. Apps for established companies have no excuse for not having a live tile. But for the small developer setting up a service in the cloud to push tile information is cost prohibitive. One of the 5 apps I am working on for Win8 would have a great online component with a live tile, but because I would need to set up a cloud service, and not sure if I will be making money off the app before I ship it, I have postponed the online component to see how well it does. There are things devs can do with the data they have (which I am doing with my other Win8 apps, and will do with my ports to WP8), such as for a photo app rotate images stored on the device, and if they don't do that then they can only blame themselves.

But in general, I really don't have this problem. The tiles I have that are not live, IE, SkyDrive, ConnectMe (remote desktop) don't really lend themselves to showing live data. Yes, IE could display the number of open tabs, or SkyDrive could show the number of updated files, but that would not offer me much in useful information.

I honestly don't care what the issue is, as long as there's a static icon the whole Live Tile experience Microsoft is making such a big fuss about is meaningless. Except being much bigger and wasting screen space away of course. I don't see a tile which simply displays a notification number as a real Live Tile. I get the same thing on iOS in the form of a badge. Nothing special about it.

Why doesn't the Music+Videos app show a preview of one or multiple album covers? Why doesn't the Internet Explorer tile scroll through previews of open tabs? Why doesn't Maps tell me where I am (city/neighborhood/street/whatever)? Etc. etc.

Microsoft is making a HUGE deal about those Live Tiles, yet in practice they're really not that dynamic, even though they could be.

.Neo said,
I honestly don't care what the issue is, as long as there's a static icon the whole Live Tile experience Microsoft is making such a big fuss about is meaningless. Except being much bigger and wasting screen space away of course. I don't see a tile which simply displays a notification number as a real Live Tile. I get the same thing on iOS in the form of a badge. Nothing special about it.

Why doesn't the Music+Videos app show a preview of one or multiple album covers? Why doesn't the Internet Explorer tile scroll through previews of open tabs? Why doesn't Maps tell me where I am (city/neighborhood/street/whatever)? Etc. etc.

Microsoft is making a HUGE deal about those Live Tiles, yet in practice they're really not that dynamic, even though they could be.

- For me music + video does show an image of the group that I last listened to. I don't want it randomly switching between album covers, that is useless. I want to see what I am (or was) listening to. Now saying that it should show the album cover vs. a picture of the band, that is a matter of taste but one I could understand.

- Showing the tabs, I am not sure about that one. It would be a privacy issue. If someone is looking over my shoulder when it shows the tab to some web site that I may not want people to see, then it would be an issue.

- No, just showing a number is not a real live tile, which is why I said that showing the # of updated files in SkyDrive would be useless.

- Maps, yep, I can see it showing where you are. It would be a battery drain as it is constantly checking with [a]GPS to locate you, but it would be nice eye candy.

But what I was writing about was the small developer. If a small dev cannot afford the server, would you rather not have the app at all because it does not have a live tile? But devs can put something up there from client side data.

.Neo said,

Too bad many apps don't utilize them, leaving me with static icons on my Nokia Lumia 900 all the same.

14/19 of my apps pinned to my start screen have an animation of some sort.

nohone said,

- Maps, yep, I can see it showing where you are. It would be a battery drain as it is constantly checking with [a]GPS to locate you, but it would be nice eye candy.

Yeah that would be neat, but my weather tile gives me my current city already without draining the battery.. and Nokia Drive tells me my estimated commute time to home or work. I find that very convenient. I'd like to see more apps use this kind of functionality.

Everyone has one, and they all look the same. Go out in a public place, right now. Look around, and observe all the people tapping away into their iPhone. They are literally everywhere you turn.

That's the point. In exchange for the ecosystem that Apple has built, you need to become just another advertisement for the brand.

Relativity_17 said,
That's the point. In exchange for the ecosystem that Apple has built, you need to become just another advertisement for the brand.

How is it any different than the Windows flag on every Windows Phone? How is it any different than the fact Microsoft won't allow third-parties (Nokia as the only exception) to modify the Windows Phone experience? That's all about brand recognition and thus advertising as well.

.Neo said,

How is it any different than the Windows flag on every Windows Phone? How is it any different than the fact Microsoft won't allow third-parties (Nokia as the only exception) to modify the Windows Phone experience? That's all about brand recognition and thus advertising as well.

Because Apple market their products as a lifestyle, that one is 'joining' or 'part' something bigger than themselves where as with Microsoft and Android it appears that the focus is on 'what can this device do'. Nothing wrong with either approach but with the former it will always attraction cynical as-holes such as me who cringe at such ideas.

lt8480 said,
In summary, something useful is better than something shiny.

Allow me to tease a bit and correct that for you.

"In summary, something useful AND shiny is better than something that's just shiny".

ccoltmanm said,
If I could try the WP8 OS for a few weeks before i commit to a 2 year contract, i would, in a heart beat.

Here in the UK, carriers give a grace period where you can terminate your contract within a certain time without penalty, if your not happy with your phone.

Atari.2600 said,
Take a look at this, Its a great video show casing the iPhone 5 in all its true colors..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...eature=player_embedded#!;

LOL!


Haha! Awesome, thanks! I knew I had seen the title of the video somewhere and got interested, but forgot about it.

Blackhood said,
Omg! haha, incoming butt hurt apple fanboys

I think there are way more Apple haters than fanboys who get easily butthurt here on Neowin.
Or in general...
Hating Apple is hip now

GS:mac

Glassed Silver said,

Haha! Awesome, thanks! I knew I had seen the title of the video somewhere and got interested, but forgot about it.


I think there are way more Apple haters than fanboys who get easily butthurt here on Neowin.
Or in general...
Hating Apple is hip now

GS:mac

or because their products suck and always have ?
people who spend extra money to use inferior tech do it why ?