Wii U: "Development Hell"

Nintendo is having some issues with their next generation console, the Wii U. In fact, according to the tipster (who is a Nintendo insider), the issues are "development hell", or show stoppers. The tipster discussed the setbacks with Nintendo leak site 01.net. The story comes to Neowin from one of our members, MightyJordan.

The 01.net site says the tipster has informed the site that "the final architecture was rushed through the door, with undesirable consequences." In fact, the tipster says that a major problem is the main chipset. The chipset is so cheap that the wireless function reportedly does not work at all. Nintendo has shipped three versions of the chipset, and will now ship a fourth.

Developers are also working with a tethered version of the controller. Each controller has a black box with a main connection to the console. Apparently the controller does not work properly, leading to frustration among developers. In fact, according to the tipster:

Many developers are feeling lost, their progress impeded by a distinct lack of visibility, and their working hours determined by the quasi-paced daily software updates. Many also feel unable to take advantage of the system's most innovative features.

Now the launch date of June 2012 is at risk. Inside Nintendo, there have been talks of delaying the Wii U until September 2012. This puts Nintendo at risk of losing revenue as rumors point to the next generation Xbox being unvieled during the 2012 E3 Conference. Wii U then would enjoy only a few months of a "best run" against the Xbox 360. For those interested in the forum conversation, you can follow this link.

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Maybe the new Wii will fail but u know what everyone has been saying for years Nintendo is dead and them bam they come up with something.look at big pic. they have wiped the floor with Xbox and playstation.They could have done only 2 things and still kicked ass 1st is bind controllers to box like Xbox and Ps,second have ability to add atleast 8 controllers.Wii is party platform.

With the huge public disappointment at the initial unveiling, they should have scrapped the whole thing and started over.

I see this as only a money-losing opportunity for Nintendo.

.beta said,
Tbh, they should just stick to handheld console's..if they're gonna do something like this.

Seems like they can't even do THAT right recently hahah.

Solid Knight said,
They have a year to ship which means they should have the technical aspects of the console in order.

To consumers maybe.

If there is any credibility in the article, what we're seeing is that the launch titles will suck due to such a short dev cycle with proper hardware.


Sounds to me like Nintendo 1st party titles will rock, and third party games will be fail.

Unfortuanate, but history repeating itself.

They can start by changing the frikkin name from Wii U to Nintendo Revolution.

When will we ever get over these retarded names coming from nintendo...

ahhell said,
They won't use "Revolution" because that is an english word and they (Nintendo) are JAPANESE.

yeah…
Game Boy (Color|Advance) sounds pretty much like Japanese…
So does (Super) Nintendo Entertainment System aka (S)NES…
or GameCube…
or Virtual Boy

I definitely see your point that they would never use an English name…

Nintendo should be a good example for Apple. Brand loyalty would not be sufficient to save you in the long run. Companies need to keep innovating and keep its customer happy to move forward. At least I have respect for Nintendo because they compete fairly, unlike a certain company

Hah... and I was actually worried that they were actually going to use decent hardware and have it cost a fortune. My Wii graphics died within months of its first use and I can't get it replaced because I got it through eBay 3 years ago. Its messed up that the best deal I can find is either having it serviced by Nintendo for like $90 or getting another off eBay for roughly the same.

So let me get this straight. According to the link provided, here is what we have:
Nintendo "insider" -> No-name French website -> article badly translated into English

That article was posted on their site over 3 weeks ago and has been picked up by no other sites.

Yeah, sounds pretty credible to me.

ahhell said,
So let me get this straight. According to the link provided, here is what we have:
Nintendo "insider" -> No-name French website -> article badly translated into English

That article was posted on their site over 3 weeks ago and has been picked up by no other sites.

Yeah, sounds pretty credible to me.


Its actually a German website.

jwoodfin09 said,

Its actually a German website.

Weird...google translate took me to a english translation of a french translation and now through German in there. LOL

ahhell said,
So let me get this straight. According to the link provided, here is what we have:
Nintendo "insider" -> No-name French website -> article badly translated into English

That article was posted on their site over 3 weeks ago and has been picked up by no other sites.

Yeah, sounds pretty credible to me.

+1

ahhell said,
So let me get this straight. According to the link provided, here is what we have:
Nintendo "insider" -> No-name French website -> article badly translated into English

That article was posted on their site over 3 weeks ago and has been picked up by no other sites.

Yeah, sounds pretty credible to me.

The story was posted on CVG yesterday, which is where I found out about it: http://www.computerandvideogam...opment-hell-claims-tipster/

This console is looking like a fail already, silly name, big performances changes from the last two consoles and cheap parts being used.

Really Nintendo, the Wii U ? Why not be creative with your names or just call it the Wii 2.

Personally the controller doesn't sound like a main feature it feels more like an addon for the Wii like the Wii fit.

Gaffney said,
This console is looking like a fail already, silly name, big performances changes from the last two consoles and cheap parts being used.

Really Nintendo, the Wii U ? Why not be creative with your names or just call it the Wii 2.

Personally the controller doesn't sound like a main feature it feels more like an addon for the Wii like the Wii fit.

The name is ridiculous. I don't know why, but every time I say Wii U, it's like I'd say fu*ck you.

The Stark said,

The name is ridiculous. I don't know why, but every time I say Wii U, it's like I'd say fu*ck you.

I'm guessing they came up with the name in Japan and no one told them that in english "Wii U" makes it sound like the console smells bad.

Nintendo... it's time to get back to your roots. Stop the gimmicks and corner cutting. Make a powerful game machine that won't break and can play all the modern games without a stylus or extra screens and speakers hidden about. Then make some graphically stunning first party titles and it will be a huge hit. Nobody is whispering about how cool a wireless LCD screen in your controller is going to be. They're wondering if it will stand toe-to-toe with the other next-gen consoles.

SpyderCanopus said,
Nintendo... it's time to get back to your roots. Stop the gimmicks and corner cutting. Make a powerful game machine that won't break and can play all the modern games without a stylus or extra screens and speakers hidden about. Then make some graphically stunning first party titles and it will be a huge hit. Nobody is whispering about how cool a wireless LCD screen in your controller is going to be. They're wondering if it will stand toe-to-toe with the other next-gen consoles.
I'm sure entering an over-saturated market with Sony and Microsoft is right on the list of things to-do for Nintendo /s
People like you clearly aren't the Wii or the Wii U target demographic. Deal with it.

as i stated in the Thread


i just dont buy this story at all and here is why.


1. they that is Nintendo is using a current generation IBM chipset Power 7 chip based Multi-threaded cores based on some reports @ E3 and it is most reasonable to say that as it is IBMs latest architecture.

2. Those chips are not Cheap parts that is not to say Nintendo dont get a Bulk Deal but to claim they may be using cheap Parts is just shotty and goes to show the Developer that could be saying all this junk has no clue what it is running and possible assumes it is running some Off the black market copy Cat like chip made in a dirty Factory with low quality standards and stuff

3. also if this is true all of it it also could mean it was all taken out of context of what the Developer could i say Could have been talking about to witch may been referring to older Development Prototype kits that had these issues.

4. i dont think Developers have finalized hardware just yet i would imagine that they wont get those till Late October to early December so that they have 5+ month or more assuming the launch of the Wii is in june then to finish up there game on finale hardware . if i remember right sony did not have finalized hardware till about around just before E3 of 2006 just 5 months before launch

notuptome2004 said,
as i stated in the Thread


i just dont buy this story at all and here is why.


1. they that is Nintendo is using a current generation IBM chipset Power 7 chip based Multi-threaded cores based on some reports @ E3 and it is most reasonable to say that as it is IBMs latest architecture.

2. Those chips are not Cheap parts that is not to say Nintendo dont get a Bulk Deal but to claim they may be using cheap Parts is just shotty and goes to show the Developer that could be saying all this junk has no clue what it is running and possible assumes it is running some Off the black market copy Cat like chip made in a dirty Factory with low quality standards and stuff

3. also if this is true all of it it also could mean it was all taken out of context of what the Developer could i say Could have been talking about to witch may been referring to older Development Prototype kits that had these issues.

4. i dont think Developers have finalized hardware just yet i would imagine that they wont get those till Late October to early December so that they have 5+ month or more assuming the launch of the Wii is in june then to finish up there game on finale hardware . if i remember right sony did not have finalized hardware till about around just before E3 of 2006 just 5 months before launch

People speculating now will always be quick to bash whatever Nintendo releases, usually its the same people who brand themselves "proper" or "core" gamers. These are the same butthurt people who can't grasp the fact that companies like Nintendo make more money focusing on casual gaming than pumping money into a blackhole.

Nobody knows how the Wii U or 3DS is going to go down around important holidays like christmas, but based on Nintendos past money making successes with the Wii and DS, I'd be more inclined to bet they know what they're doing.

Have you considered that the Wii U, as with most consumer electronics these days, contains more than one chip? The article specifically referred to wifi and the controllers not working, not the main processor.

They should scrap the whole thing and start over, I don't see an upgraded Wii as doing very well. There's nothing exciting about it, and the big touch pad controller idea seems kind of lame. They could at least try and come up with a better name...Wii U? I mean Wii was bad enough but come one. I can already hear the "Pee Eww" jokes. This console stinks.

Forgot to mention that unless nintendo cans the wii u, it's probably already too late. This is just like wii but worse. Releasing a year too early, with only an 'inbetween' answer to the current technology developments. The differences between wii u and the p34, xbox 460 will be exactly the same as wii, ps3 and 360 if they don't do something drastic.
There's only so many casual customers they can get, and they wont be in it for the long haul like the proper gamers....

JamesWeb said,
Wii U? Wow, I totally forgot this was even a thing.

More like the Wii U-TURN! Hahahah, get it?! -slaps knee at lame joke-

I've said it before and I'll say it again, but people are complaining that a machine that launches in nearly a year isn't complete yet?

Dev's know the story - they know if they're working on an unreleased consoles, dev kits and specs will be changing all the time - this is really nothing new. You could probably find similar stories for every console if you asked around inside the industry.

I also don't hold much salt for the tethered controllers not working either, as it' pretty evident we've all seen them working perfectly fine (hint: every single E3 demonstration, and at the E3 show floor - where not a single person complained about them not working)

~Johnny said,
I've said it before and I'll say it again, but people are complaining that a machine that launches in nearly a year isn't complete yet?

Dev's know the story - they know if they're working on an unreleased consoles, dev kits and specs will be changing all the time - this is really nothing new. You could probably find similar stories for every console if you asked around inside the industry.

I also don't hold much salt for the tethered controllers not working either, as it' pretty evident we've all seen them working perfectly fine (hint: every single E3 demonstration, and at the E3 show floor - where not a single person complained about them not working)

what are you talking about, did you read the article? this sounds like much more than standard development delays and waiting. plus the e3 demos count nothing towards the actual controllers the devs are getting, who knows if the e3 hardware was even anything like the finished product/what the devs likely have their hand on. I love Nintendo, and have held out for years still backing them even buying a wii and always hoping they would get their act together, don't know how much longer i can last even i want them to suceed sooo badly

Crender said,

what are you talking about, did you read the article? this sounds like much more than standard development delays and waiting.

And how do you know? This is one unconfirmed account. You don't know what goes on behind the scenes with Sonys and Microsofts prototypes. This is just scaremongering to try put people off the Wii-U.

The console still has a year before release.

Wonder when Nintendo is going to go the way of Sega and become a software only company?

They just seem to me to be stumbling from one fail to another what with the poor sales and price drop of the 3DS, now this.

Unless the Wii U is a monumental success (and judging from the look of the console and what I've been reading) I don't think it will be, I wont be forking over my cash for one just to play a few exclusive titles like Zelda and Mario.

alex. said,
Wonder when Nintendo is going to go the way of Sega and become a software only company?

They just seem to me to be stumbling from one fail to another what with the poor sales and price drop of the 3DS, now this.

Unless the Wii U is a monumental success (and judging from the look of the console and what I've been reading) I don't think it will be, I wont be forking over my cash for one just to play a few exclusive titles like Zelda and Mario.

People doubted the Wii, myself included. This time, I wouldn't be so quick to write them off.

I don't feel sorry for them. They've had the glory for years now, selling massive numbers of consoles both home and handheld. They only have themselves to blame for a mistake like this..

They've sold far and away significantly more consoles than Sony and Microsoft have and they've had years to develop something new and exciting. They pioneered the "alternative input" methods with the Wii-mote so even had the headstart on Sony and Microsoft with that.. yet somehow are floundering?

No sympathy.

This ^

Cost cutting will get them no where. This is something as large company they should know. Their intention was to manufacture at the cheapest price possible, nothing wrong with that, it's how businesses work. BUT they forgot about the part where the goods had to maintain a certain level of quality and, in this case, work!

Mike Chipshop said,
This ^

Cost cutting will get them no where. This is something as large company they should know. Their intention was to manufacture at the cheapest price possible, nothing wrong with that, it's how businesses work. BUT they forgot about the part where the goods had to maintain a certain level of quality and, in this case, work!


It is doing wonders for RIM. /s

FMH said,

It is doing wonders for RIM. /s

or nokia... but nintendo was known for their quality hardware and design somehow got worse after the release of the wii