Wikileaks loses Amazon home

Just yesterday, the controversial site WikiLeaks that is leaking US Government intelligence, was reported to have been a victim of Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks on Sunday, and that they would then move to Amazon's servers. Not even twenty-four hours later and WikiLeaks either has left or lost its host, Amazon.com.

WikiLeaks' availability to users has been spotty since the DDoS attacks on Sunday, and now for many users in the U.S. and Europe, the entire site may even appear to be down with Amazon servers refusing to acknowledge the data requests, according to the Detroit Free Press. The organization dedicated to making knowledge publically available, just moved to Amazon's EC2 cloud computing platform in response to attacks on their old servers. WikiLeaks however does have more than one hosting solution, so it may not be down for all users.

Neither WikiLeaks nor Amazon would comment on the situation still making it unclear exactly what went on between the companies, although most likely Amazon shut the door on WikiLeaks to prevent getting themselves into any hot water, even though not all of Amazon's servers are hosted in the United States.

With WikiLeaks becoming more popular and influential, the risk for attacks against opposing forces increase as well. Most recently cables were released from several embassies around the world revealing human rights violations discussed in what was thought to be a private forum. While the organization currently is focusing on governments, they will soon be moving to businesses, as reported earlier on Neowin

The growth and potential threat to keeping any documents private causes more controversy and unrest among those at risk for having secrets exposed. With Amazon preventing WikiLeaks from being hosted on their servers, perhaps they are doing a huge favor to keeping the integrity of their business alive.

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I am somewhat shocked to see that some people are siding with WikiLeaks....do you not give a rat's behind about your country, and by extension, yourselves? It may seem innocent for an average citizen to view classified documents but many of those documents contain secrets that tend to the U.S. defense system. These documents in the wrong hands can really threaten national security......Yes some of the documents might seem as "cool" to view but having these out in public is a disaster waiting to happen. This a-hole is exposing a country's secrets and threatening the safety of its people.

P.S. I know my post may sound political but it really doesn't take a genius to realize that these are classified for a reason.

ManOfMystery said,
I am somewhat shocked to see that some people are siding with WikiLeaks....do you not give a rat's behind about your country, and by extension, yourselves? It may seem innocent for an average citizen to view classified documents but many of those documents contain secrets that tend to the U.S. defense system. These documents in the wrong hands can really threaten national security......Yes some of the documents might seem as "cool" to view but having these out in public is a disaster waiting to happen. This a-hole is exposing a country's secrets and threatening the safety of its people.

P.S. I know my post may sound political but it really doesn't take a genius to realize that these are classified for a reason.

And I'm much more shocked to see some people being against WikiLeaks. Some people that are supposed to have brain and understand that corruption, murders and lies are bad and truth and accountability is good.

BTW, have you actually read the documents or you're just saying what you want so think?

Amazon probably doesn't want a US/EU/Chinese/"Whoever they pee'd on this week" attack on their servers.
edit: seriously p*ss is bleeped? how about, I need to take a nice pee

Thing is most of the stuff said in said documents most people already know about. Just the ignorant people wouldn't know and call it the '9/11 of diplomacy'. The fact that these governments are so corrupt is a clear sign of all those documents leaked. Most rich and power found their way to the top through backward/deceitful tactics. Any hardworking regular wouldn't even have time to do such things but just trying to live out normal regular lives.

So-Unreal said,
https://twitter.com/wikileaks

"WikiLeaks servers at Amazon ousted. Free speech the land of the free--fine our $ are now spent to employ people in Europe."

Free speech isn't protected when its releaseing secret or classified information, which can be looked at as treason in a way

neufuse said,

Free speech isn't protected when its releaseing secret or classified information, which can be looked at as treason in a way

The person/persons that released the information to Wikileaks may/may not be guilty of treason. However Wikileaks and anyone else who obtained said information, is free to release said information anytime they want. It's not like Wikileaks signed some kind of NDA.

neufuse said,

Free speech isn't protected when its releaseing secret or classified information, which can be looked at as treason in a way

Only treason if its come from you, but this hasn't - this is reporting, the info came from someone else and wikileaks is simply reporting it, this is not treason!

I actually think bad things will come from this though, perfect excuse to label free speech sites as terrorist organisations and impose (or further along and agenda of) internet censorship!

So-Unreal said,
https://twitter.com/wikileaks

"WikiLeaks servers at Amazon ousted. Free speech the land of the free--fine our $ are now spent to employ people in Europe."


Good luck with that. If the US will issue a warrant for these guys, Europe will more than happily search and turn them over. They can't hide in either US or Europe, that's for sure.

Northgrove said,
If the US will issue a warrant for these guys, Europe will more than happily search and turn them over.

Unless they go into a country with no extradition treaty with US or a country openly hostile to them - I have some in mind that would definitely love to give the US gov't a finger by hosting or even financing Wikileaks.

Miuku said,

Unless they go into a country with no extradition treaty with US or a country openly hostile to them - I have some in mind that would definitely love to give the US gov't a finger by hosting or even financing Wikileaks.

ZACTLY
The US has no power in this situation...all theyre doing is showing WHY the US shouldnt have power over the internet.

duddit2 said,

Only treason if its come from you, but this hasn't - this is reporting, the info came from someone else and wikileaks is simply reporting it, this is not treason!

I actually think bad things will come from this though, perfect excuse to label free speech sites as terrorist organisations and impose (or further along and agenda of) internet censorship!

You are correct - I don't quite understand the ire directed against WikiLeaks. Sure, maybe releasing the information can be considered "irresponsible" but this guy is not American - in fact, I'd be willing to bet he's anti-American in a lot of ways - so why would he care? The Government can only point the finger at itself / it's employees. After all, the leak came from within.

darkthunder said,

The person/persons that released the information to Wikileaks may/may not be guilty of treason. However Wikileaks and anyone else who obtained said information, is free to release said information anytime they want. It's not like Wikileaks signed some kind of NDA.

True enough. Assagne cannot be convicted of treason because he is not an American citizen, and therefore owes no allegiance to the United States. However, he can certainly be convicted and tried for espionage.

neufuse said,

Free speech isn't protected when its releaseing secret or classified information, which can be looked at as treason in a way

It's not treason! He did not betray his home country to a foreign power.

pLUSpISTOL said,
It says it's in Sweden...

Most of the hosted piracy/leaked content are hosted in Sweden and neighbouring countries

everyone should do the right thing and share/seed/upload and download the data, wtf is the govn do?! arrest the entire population?

someone should make a virus that spreads the info to every single computer in the world

I have a copy of the data stored on a webserver here. When you do finally get on the Wikileaks Cablegate site you can download the data via a bittorrent link there, I hope I helped ;-)

AshUK said,
Is it just me or is the US starting to act more like China every day censoring their sordid past

America always censored certain info. They just kept quiet about it.

AshUK said,
Is it just me or is the US starting to act more like China every day censoring their sordid past

It's not censorship. EVERY government keeps things secret for the purpose of national security. It simply wouldn't make sense to make all the governments activities public. And it's really irresponsible (and kind of treasonist) for these people to leak all of this info.

Brent1700 said,

It's not censorship. EVERY government keeps things secret for the purpose of national security. It simply wouldn't make sense to make all the governments activities public. And it's really irresponsible (and kind of treasonist) for these people to leak all of this info.

"Treasonist". Isn't this guy Australian? How is that treason?

soLoredd said,

"Treasonist". Isn't this guy Australian? How is that treason?

The person who founded WikiLeaks isn't known but obviously some American had to give them the information.

Brent1700 said,

It's not censorship. EVERY government keeps things secret for the purpose of national security. It simply wouldn't make sense to make all the governments activities public. And it's really irresponsible (and kind of treasonist) for these people to leak all of this info.

I believe you're using the term "government" too loosely. We have EVERY right to be able to view the government's activities.

Military plans/details however are another story, as this information can potentially cause harm to our soldiers if their positions are given away...

AshUK said,
Is it just me or is the US starting to act more like China every day censoring their sordid past

Every government has "state secrets", its not a United States only thing......

AshUK said,
Is it just me or is the US starting to act more like China every day censoring their sordid past

You are free to speak your opinion here until it comes to talking anything related government. Then we have censorship :ninjaeyes:

Brent1700 said,

It's not censorship. EVERY government keeps things secret for the purpose of national security. It simply wouldn't make sense to make all the governments activities public. And it's really irresponsible (and kind of treasonist) for these people to leak all of this info.

Keeping secrets for national security purposes is one thing, but keeping secrets to protect you own ass (Which is what this administration does) is another...

dead.cell said,

Military plans/details however are another story, as this information can potentially cause harm to our soldiers if their positions are given away...

Which, ironically, IS often discussed in the news... So, it's not about protecting our servicemen, but rather our politicians...

M_Lyons10 said,

Keeping secrets for national security purposes is one thing, but keeping secrets to protect you own ass (Which is what this administration does) is another...

Do you even know what you're talking about?

AshUK said,
Is it just me or is the US starting to act more like China every day censoring their sordid past

How dare you make such a horrible claim, you anti American!!!

Seriously though... US censorship is far from new.

Quick Shot said,

America always censored certain info. They just kept quiet about it.


Some people think this will somehow help America and not politicians, and that it will not be used by politicians in doing everything that they were already going to do anyway. Other people are thinking that two wrongs do not make a right, and it will only do harm in the long run.

Real questions..
How will a “free” country go about telling the people that this knowledge is not a good thing? So far it's to deny everything.

How will a “free” country decide that any content of this nature is a crime in any way, popularity?

Bush and Clinton said this hundreds of times “securing interests”, so how well would “intelligence gathering” in any form work if everyone knows everything about one party, but nothing about the other?

Subject Delta said,

How dare you make such a horrible claim, you anti American!!!

Seriously though... US censorship is far from new.

Except keeping information classified isn't censorship. There's a difference between merely not releasing information, which all Governments do, and going out and actively preventing people from speaking (e.g., silencing political dissidents, as China does).

Brent1700 said,
This whole WikiLeaks thing is sooo annoying.

Just hide under the blanket, close your eyes and wait until that bed mean truth goes away.