Will Xbox One get a big memory performance boost for final hardware?

We've mentioned before that, in terms of sheer numbers, the hardware on board Sony's PlayStation 4 seems to be superior to that of Microsoft's Xbox One game console. One of the reasons is the way both consoles handle memory. The PS4 will have 8 GB of GDDR5 RAM, clocked at 5500 MHz for 170.6 GB/s of bandwidth. This compares to 8 GB of the older DDR3 RAM for the Xbox One. clocked at 2133 MHz for just 68.3 GB/s of bandwidth.

However, the Xbox One does have something extra in the memory department: an additional 32 MB of eSRAM that is supposed to have 102 GB/s of embedded memory bandwidth. That should help the console with buffering frames in games. Now, a new report on Eurogamer claims, via unnamed sources, that Microsoft is telling developers that the final hardware for the Xbox One will increase the embedded memory bandwidth to as much as 192GB/s, an increase of 88 percent.

The story says that Microsoft originally created the bandwidth numbers for the eSRAM from separate read/write operations. Now Microsoft has discovered that the final hardware can also handle read/write chores at the same time, which should help developers access more bandwidth.

The report also says that Xbox One games will get more optimized as newer and better drivers are released by Microsoft in the months ahead of its November 2013 launch. Adding more memory bandwidth should certainly help in that regard.

Source: Eurogamer | Image via Microsoft

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Look the comments on the original article on Eurogamer, and then come and look the comments here, by underpaid dudes from India by MS... You can't be so naive and be happy that suddenly Xbone became faster, lol... Xbone 180 is vastly inferior in all fronts and only victims would by it. Friend don't let friends get deceived by MS.

PC EliTiST said,
Look the comments on the original article on Eurogamer, and then come and look the comments here, by underpaid dudes from India by MS... You can't be so naive and be happy that suddenly Xbone became faster, lol... Xbone 180 is vastly inferior in all fronts and only victims would by it. Friend don't let friends get deceived by MS.

That's your argument...???
Xbox 360 was inferior to the PS3 in terms of power for power...
Guess what what the better experience...???

Vastly inferior on all fronts...???

XBOX Live improved...
Controller improved significantly...
snap feature is amazing...
Goofing off with friends and jump to my game in a blink...

I'll take my chances with MS programmers...

OG XB = awesome...
XB360 = awesome...

MS is 2 for 2 in my book...

So I'm gonna give them the benefit of a doubt...

PC EliTiST said,
Look the comments on the original article on Eurogamer, and then come and look the comments here, by underpaid dudes from India by MS... You can't be so naive and be happy that suddenly Xbone became faster, lol... Xbone 180 is vastly inferior in all fronts and only victims would by it. Friend don't let friends get deceived by MS.

Underpaid dudes from India?

That's a new Low for you.

sanke1 said,

Underpaid dudes from India?

That's a new Low for you.

These "new found numbers" don't concern me...
I'm just really tired at people who see a spec sheet and use that as a determining factor for victory...
Yes this post is about these new found calculatins that MS found... It strikes me as odd like its does you..
My thoughts were exactly this: You been in development for 4long years, and your just now discovering this...yea sure MS....

As much as I dog Sony... My rants are warranted...
MS gets hatred no matter what...
.i already knew Sony would go with raw Horse Power...It's what they do... And they are good at it...


But I am not convinced that the PS4 overall experience will be better...

And when Sony screws up or doesn't have something ready, they are given a free pass...

Mention the name MS rather it be good or bad... And the pitchforks and torches come out... Aka: Angry mob time...

I expect more from Sony than I do MS...
This is Sonys 4th console vs MS 3rd...

And MS has given me a better overall experience on the OG XBox and the 360

Sony's 1st party games are amazing... And will continue to be so...

And you can see the inspiration that MS has given Sony...
Such as:

A hard drive in every PS3 ( we can almost guarantee that there Would of been memory cards if not for the OG XB having a hard drive in it)
You think we would PSN (or PSN+) if it weren't for XB Live...
Think Sony would of bothered with the PS store if not for the XB Marketplace being there...
Those are some nice looking triggers on the DS4... The design looks familiar...

Now I'm just ranting... :-/

MS drives me up the wall too...
But they are 2 for 2 in my book when it comes to consoles.... So they have my attention...


Edited by Showan, Jun 30 2013, 8:05pm :

I don't get how people seem to think the XBOX ONE looks like a VCR.
Doesn't even look close at all. If anything, it'd be like a Blu-ray player, and if so, nothing wrong with that.
Looks like a media device to me, which is exactly what it is designed for. Looks perfect to me.
If you don't like it, don't buy it. Wont be Microsoft's loss.

Good that their improving last minute, wish more companies would do this, it's going to have a long shelf life. M$ angered me too much to buy one the first year, but if they keep their word and it turns out to be a good console, I might spring for one next year. At this point, I don't trust M$ not to re-implement their crappy drm and don't like the always on cam/mic.

Tha Bloo Monkee said,
Remember that it's just rumours via "unnamed sources". Anybody can make this stuff up.

"Well-placed development sources have told Digital Foundry"

"Now Microsoft has discovered that the final hardware can also handle read/write chores at the same time, which should help developers access more bandwidth."

LOL, Wut??? Did they not design it? Did they not know what the hardware was capable of when they created it??

AR556 said,
"Now Microsoft has discovered that the final hardware can also handle read/write chores at the same time, which should help developers access more bandwidth."

LOL, Wut??? Did they not design it? Did they not know what the hardware was capable of when they created it??

eSRAM that's embedded is a tricky thing... The potential is there... But the learning curve is also there...

Bethesda = Skyrim PS3 version = Man it's 7yrs later and still can't learn the cell properly...
Naughty Dog= Uncharted/Last of Us PS3 = this Cell is easy to work with... Create works of art..

The memory is there...
Their math is correct...
I guess they forgot to carry the 1 or something...
Or the eSRAM can go Super Saiyan....

n_K said,
'Will Xbox One get a big memory performance boost for final hardware?'
No.

Thanks for the confirmation Mr Ballmer. Didn't know you personally commented on forums. /s

DDR3 is so cheap now that MS would be better off to just add 12 or even 16GB RAM. It will not add much to the BoM (bill of materials).

I quite like the Kinect 2 it's a nice bit of tech, but the thing just adds too much to the cost, for the same price MS are asking this thing could be considerably faster than the PS4 if no Kinect was included.

NoClipMode said,
DDR3 is so cheap now that MS would be better off to just add 12 or even 16GB RAM. It will not add much to the BoM (bill of materials).

I quite like the Kinect 2 it's a nice bit of tech, but the thing just adds too much to the cost, for the same price MS are asking this thing could be considerably faster than the PS4 if no Kinect was included.

Considering that the Hard disk is no longer needed to store games, I am sure a 250GB hard disk at $399 with Kinect is a possibility now.

Don't care. I bought the 360 not because it was the fastest (obviously wasn't) but because it offered the best all round experience. That will dictate the next console choice too.

Get over it M$, u just lost the battle, simple that.

U could add 20GB ram to X1, and still most of the peeps will get the PS4.

Its a fact.

panacea said,

For all we know xbox one could sell better then PS4, now that online DRM was removed!

Not even X360 has sold better than PS3, I don't see how they could manage to outsell PS4 giving the bad PR and price range for their new console.

Yeah, I knew 360 was selling better ps3 until only recently!

I hope it will be reversed this time round! I had xbox and a whole bunch of games! and ps3 and I loved ps3 better!

panacea said,
Yeah, I knew 360 was selling better ps3 until only recently!

I hope it will be reversed this time round! I had xbox and a whole bunch of games! and ps3 and I loved ps3 better!

Microsoft completely ignored Asia and won't have TV services for Europe at launch. They've pretty much only sold well in America.

Sicarius123 said,
The poll to my right...

"What console do you plan on getting later this year?

Xbox One - 37.8%

PlayStation 4 - 23.9%"

That's a surprise. Didn't expect a website that centers around Microsoft products to have people favoring... Microsoft products in a poll.

A fact by who, show some facts that everyone is buying the PS4??? or maybe what you are saying is based on your own personal feelings towards MS.

tester.br said,
Get over it M$, u just lost the battle, simple that.

U could add 20GB ram to X1, and still most of the peeps will get the PS4.

Its a fact.

I love that little titbit you added:

"its a fact"

Although I do feel such a statement deserves to be backed with at least fundamental or projected figures.

Oh wait, you have? UPDATE!

tester.br said,
Get over it M$, u just lost the battle, simple that.

U could add 20GB ram to X1, and still most of the peeps will get the PS4.

Its a fact.

M$? U? Peeps? I just lost faith in humanity.

dead.cell said,

That's a surprise. Didn't expect a website that centers around Microsoft products to have people favoring... Microsoft products in a poll.

You know it was a completely different story until they fixed the DRM ****, right?

tester.br said,
Get over it M$, u just lost the battle, simple that.

U could add 20GB ram to X1, and still most of the peeps will get the PS4.

Its a fact.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I would almost be willing to buy ONE for you because you appear to be fodder to drive up my COD and BF Achievements.

DARKFiB3R said,

You know it was a completely different story until they fixed the DRM ****, right?

Not exactly. There were a lot of people here still that had their head up Microsoft's butt talking about how awesome family sharing would be, and how we should just accept DRM...

dead.cell said,

Not exactly. There were a lot of people here still that had their head up Microsoft's butt talking about how awesome family sharing would be, and how we should just accept DRM...

Little has changed there, I'm afraid. But regarding the poll, it was massively in favour of the PS4 at the time.

tester.br said,
Get over it M$, u just lost the battle, simple that.

U could add 20GB ram to X1, and still most of the peeps will get the PS4.

Its a fact.


I pre-ordered 2 xbox ones actually.

dead.cell said,

That's a surprise. Didn't expect a website that centers around Microsoft products to have people favoring... Microsoft products in a poll.


2 things: first, that pool was before xbox DRM changes. second, if this forum is all about Microsoft centeric guys who the hell is the fact maker guy then?

Jose_49 said,
Can someone explain me what is eSRAM?... seems my crappy googling abilities does not pay off....

Mega high speed RAM, you only get a bit but due to its bandwidth it doesn't matter, the frames (as in 60FPS) are built via multiple layers of level design and such stuff and this is the stuff that really counts in terms of people and games (opposed to people and specs).

Anyway, each to their own happy days all!

Microsoft is one of the best if not the best software companies in the world. If anyone is going to be able to optimize a driver for an OS, it is them. This sounds great!

norseman said,
Microsoft is one of the best if not the best software companies in the world. If anyone is going to be able to optimize a driver for an OS, it is them. This sounds great!

brought to you by Microsoft

Shahrad said,
Would be good since its about performance.
Nice to see it!

Yup, all tech details are well received by me even though I probably wont be buying on day one (at that time I'll have a just entering second year secondary school (UK) son, a much younger nearly 2 year old son and a nearly 1 year old girl).

I'll be busy!

The main reason for me getting an xone is the simplified live tv (controlled via voice or device) then new games as secondary.

I'm not suggesting anything more here then how I'll most likely be using the system, it seems the best fit for me!

Enron said,
Would be nice. Hopefully they'll also add a clock to the front panel of the console.

J/K - That would be good until the power goes out and you have to reprogram it like my VCR

+Ichigo+ said,

J/K - That would be good until the power goes out and you have to reprogram it like my VCR

Wait... so this ISN'T a replacement for the VCR?? *confused*

+Ichigo+ said,

J/K - That would be good until the power goes out and you have to reprogram it like my VCR

Well since most people will be connected to the internet, it would reset the time pretty seamlessly. Regardless, I don't think a clock would be a "cool" idea.