Windows 7 to have only one "compatible" logo

The Register is reporting on an interesting story from WinHEC about how Microsoft is planning to change how it will run the "compatible with Windows 7" logo program.

Microsoft seems to have learnt its lesson after the disaster that was the Vista compatible program which had 4 different logos and would eventually see Microsoft ending up in court facing a class action lawsuit.

Microsoft confirmed to partners on Wednesday that there would only be a single sticker that covers all PC's peripherals and software that has been certified to work with Windows 7 when it's released.

The changes are timed to coincide with Microsoft's continued push towards Windows 7, helping partners to start developing products earlier than with Vista, which had only a relatively small number of compatible programs ready when it launched.

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I think there is only going to be one version as everything else can be made extras for download like the movie maker and rest. i dont have tv tuner so i cant say whether it is important enough to have as another edition or not.

they should indeed have 3 different versions: Windows 7 Home Edition And Windows 7 Business Edition And Windows 7 All In One.

Soldiers33 said,
ultimate is basically the same as premium, excpet bitlock and those extra features which ive never recieved.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you just say "Ultimate is the same as Premium except for all the other stuff in it thats not in Premium"?

Oh dear.

TCLN Ryster said,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you just say "Ultimate is the same as Premium except for all the other stuff in it thats not in Premium"?

Oh dear.


Windows Vista Ultimate combines all the features of Windows Vista Home Premium along with all the features of Windows Vista Enterprise. Its the most complete version of Windows.

Please note that Microsoft considers Vista Enterprise to be their 'premium' business SKU.

It's really unfortunate that the sheer stupidity of very few customers has led to this. 'Vista Ready' and 'Vista Capable' are not hard to distinguish, especially with all the resources easily available. Oh well, the simpler it is the less pointless lawsuits Microsoft will have to deal with.

Yeah it's like the person who dived into an empty (dry) swimming pool, and then sued the owner for their injuries. They won.

I believe there is:
Home
Business
Enterprise(large companies only like it is with Vista)
Ultimate

So only 3 SKU's for the average person to worry about.

Reeve said,
There's Windows 7 Ultimate already (afaik!)


Yes I was just listing the version that i THINK will be in the release. They can still "relabel" Ultimate if they choose to.

There really should only be one version of Windows 7 or if there is going to be a version for servers, make it two.

Windows 7
Windows 7 Server

Done.

I agree that I would not be opposed to see 2 versions (Home and Pro) but I would much rather just see 1 version of Windows 7 and allow others to just pay for additional content needed after purchase. Like 1 version is sold to the public, but when you get home to install, you can go to the Microsoft store or something and buy additional programs/additions.

That's one step in the right direction, now we need to know how many different versions of Windows 7 there will be...

Hopefully, one. Likely, 5 (Same as Vista I presume, as the pre-release is alread using the "Ultimate" tag).

I wouldn't mind seeing 3 though - Home, Pro, Ultimate.

I'd rather see two. Pro should be Ultimate, though it should still be called Pro because Ultimate is a stupid name for an OS.

Windows 7 Home Edition
Windows 7 Professional

TRC said,
I'd rather see two. Pro should be Ultimate, though it should still be called Pro because Ultimate is a stupid name for an OS.

Windows 7 Home Edition
Windows 7 Professional


I'd rather just see "Windows 7"

johnnyftw said,
I'd rather just see "Windows 7"



I agree completely. One version, simple and streamlined. Everything else: add-ons. You add what you need.

TRC said,
I'd rather see two. Pro should be Ultimate, though it should still be called Pro because Ultimate is a stupid name for an OS.

Windows 7 Home Edition
Windows 7 Professional


And why would business customers want to pay for features like media centre, etc? You need three editions. One for home users, one for business users and one that contains all the features of both. I agree that Ultimate is a stupid name though.

TRC said,
I'd rather see two. Pro should be Ultimate, though it should still be called Pro because Ultimate is a stupid name for an OS.

Windows 7 Home Edition
Windows 7 Professional


Keep dreaming, right now Windows 7 supports the same SKU line up as Windows Vista. Microsoft is not learning. At least drop the Enterprise SKU and just let whatever unique features it offers be available as privilege downloads through SA/EA and MDOP for Windows 7 Business. Merge Home Premium and Home Basic and let the user decide what the want at the point of installation to be installed.

Windows 7 Home
Windows 7 Business
Windows 7 Premium - replaces Ultimate

Starter edition still serves a critical purpose.

TCLN Ryster said,

And why would business customers want to pay for features like media centre, etc? You need three editions. One for home users, one for business users and one that contains all the features of both. I agree that Ultimate is a stupid name though.

Why can't they just disable the features they want at install time? Why is it that your typical Linux distro can have wild ranges of install-time choices, but Windows can't?

I am not surprised. A lot of things with Windows Vista were not coordinated well, from communication, its system requirements, Industry Partnership and what value does it really offer to a Windows XP user which has dominated the market for nearly 7 years. The Company’s (OEMs) who were supposed to represent Windows Vista on their systems did so poorly initially. A lot of debate has started over this, which includes Microsoft’s alleged deal with Intel to support a particular integrated graphics chipset, the Windows Vista Capable branding and the perception that Vista was never ready out the gate.

IMHO

i think they did it on purpose, for example for OEM, Microsoft did earn money for every "certification" and "partner" associate with some OEM.

Anyways, vista logo was create to deceive users.

or... it was created because OEMs didn't want to NOT be vista citified, and pressured Microsoft into it... sorry, but Microsoft does a lot of stupid things, but deliberate confusing people is RARELY on that list.

Even this sounds like a great step for Win7. Do we know how many version there will be of Win7 though? Would be great if there were just 2 like XP, Pro and Home.

i agree that the versions should be simpler. but i think there does need to be an 'ultimate' type that has features from both home & business (media center, domain join)..

To be fair I don't even think those editions should be separated. There's not much difference in price between them anyway. I'd like to see a single version with much greater customisability during install.

Microsoft failed to deliver on Ultimate Extras or justify why the Ultimate version was worth the extra money (though I still bought it for the backup features), while Home Basic was just a case of how much could they strip out... it wasn't even that much cheaper.

yeah thats true. but gotta think about how big of a market windows has. i'm sure 2-3 versions isnt a big deal. one thing i think is stupid though is home basic vs home premium. at the least i'd hope that can become just 'home'

theyarecomingforyou said,
Microsoft failed to deliver on Ultimate Extras or justify why the Ultimate version was worth the extra money (though I still bought it for the backup features), while Home Basic was just a case of how much could they strip out... it wasn't even that much cheaper.


What? Ultimate's price is completely justified. If you take Basic, add the Home Premium features (Media Center) the difference is like $30. If you take the difference between Basic and Business the difference is like $100, for features like domain joining, remote desktop, and shadow copy.

The difference between Basic and Ultimate is $120 at the current price of $219.95. That's $10 less than the 30+100 you'd get for the marginal cost of Business plus Home features.

So please explain why you think the price is unjustified?

Brandon Live said,
What? Ultimate's price is completely justified. ...snip..

So please explain why you think the price is unjustified?


I completely agree with you Brandon. theyarecomingforyou obviously has NO CLUE what Ultimate actually is. Perhaps he thinks that the only extra thing in Ultimate was the extras themselves? Sad.

Brandon Live said,
What? Ultimate's price is completely justified. If you take Basic, add the Home Premium features (Media Center) the difference is like $30. If you take the difference between Basic and Business the difference is like $100, for features like domain joining, remote desktop, and shadow copy.

The difference between Basic and Ultimate is $120 at the current price of $219.95. That's $10 less than the 30+100 you'd get for the marginal cost of Business plus Home features.

So please explain why you think the price is unjustified?

What about the poor souls that had to pay $299.00 for it. Vista Business comes with the backup but without The Media Center. I just ordered a new PC with Vista Ultimate on it instead of Home Premium and it was $90.00 more. I like Vista and I do not plan to upgrade to Windows 7 unless the price is right.

Gary7 said,


What about the poor souls that had to pay $299.00 for it.


No one forced them to pay. They should have bought the OEM copy. Their mistake.