Windows 8 approaching Beta development stage

Following several leaks of Microsoft's next generation OS, we're getting tidbits that Windows 8 is getting close to the Beta phase of it's development.  Unconfirmed sources indicate that build 7996 is now in testing, according to centrumxp.pl.  If this (loosely translated from Polish) statement is correct:

"the production of Windows 8 Beta 1 will last a minimum of 6 weeks to a maximum of about 3 months.  And that would cover all of our previous assumptions that the first beta we look forward to as early as the coming holidays, and by September.  It is worth mentioning that on 10-14 July will be held in Los Angeles, Microsoft Worldwide Partner Conference, where we expect to be unveiled Windows 8 in one of the complication is derived from Branch Beta."

So in summary, it seems we can expect an unveiling possibly at the Microsoft Worldwide Partner Conference, and then the Windows 8 M3 / Beta is expected to be offered to participants at the Professional Developers Conference 2011 (PDC 2011) September 13–16, 2011, in Anaheim, California.

This timeline appears to correlate with a leaked roadmap, indicating that Windows 8 Milestone 3 coding was to begin on February 28, 2011 (According to SoftPedia).  According to the same article, M3 coding should be wrapped up no later than July 2011 (for comparison, Windows 8 M2 took approximately 5 months from start to completion).

Unfortunately, according to SoftPedia, it's possible that build 8000 may be just another build as Microsoft heads to beta:

"It’s critical to note that Windows 8 Build 8000 is not the fully-fledged Beta development milestone, but only one of the many Builds which will be created on the path to the actual Beta.

Windows 8 M3 Build 6.2.7996.0.winmain_win8m3.110429-1810 was compiled on April 29th, 2011, and in this regard, it’s quite possible that Build 8000 was also wrapped up, or that at least, Microsoft is quite close to doing so."

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I think if they get away from the original windows look and try something different that they will be better off. Give it a cleaner look. Like take some hints from linux and apple i am ot saying copy them but ad some featers. Make the desktop more clean. I did see that they added like a dock like they have on os10. I think it makes it look clean and would get a lot more people wanting to buy it.

M3 just started... 8000 isn't going to be the Beta. I don't see why just because 7000 was the beta for 7 that means 8000 is going to be the beta for 8. When has this ever happened? Remember when people were calling 7000 the RTM for 7? It's nonsense to pick builds speculation, you have to look at the time lime. M3 just started, so Beta is far away. Not to mention 8000 has already been compiled almost a week ago.

I hope not, that usually means they are done bringing new stuff in and working on bugs and ui then. I want MORE NEW STUFF! IT HAS TO BE DIFFERENT THAN W7.

Well, I am looking forward to September or July (where ever it ends up being revealed first officially). I wonder if Microsoft will have time to add some Skype integration, then again, that might be coming in Windows Live wave 5.

Mr. Dee said,

Or 8100

Hmm. I'll go with :
8100 - Beta 1 - September 2011
8200 - RC1 - January 2012
8300 - RC2 - April 2012
8600 - RTM - August 2012
Purely speculation.

MASTER260 said,
It seems way too early for it to be beta to me. I mean, the cloud integration isn't even in 7955!

Considering that Windows 8 won't be released to the general public until about summer 2012, its ample time to have everything ready. I am sure the company has been working on this release since Windows 7 went out the gate. The cloud integration is in 7955 but it needs to be unlocked and its buggy.

You mean the cloud integration isn't enabled in 7955. Just because something isn't in the leaked build doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's very likely that there are many features that are either:
a) Disabled so that if the build is leaked not all their plans get leaked out
b) Being worked on in a separate branch that hasn't been merged with winmain yet

Dan~ said,
Yes Microsoft are approaching Windows 8, that's obvious, but I'm with Tom

With Tom on what? He didn't even read it and made an assumption based on that lack of actually reading the content.


Here's the distilled comment from the article to show you what I mean.

They basically said, 'Critical to note Build 8000 is not Beta, but one of many Builds on the path to Beta.'

His complaint was, 'build 8000 does not mean that Microsoft is ready for beta.'

That's not what they said at all. They said specifically that it's not beta, but a build on the way to beta...

Mountain Dew said,

With Tom on what? He didn't even read it and made an assumption based on that lack of actually reading the content.


Here's the distilled comment from the article to show you what I mean.

They basically said, 'Critical to note Build 8000 is not Beta, but one of many Builds on the path to Beta.'

His complaint was, 'build 8000 does not mean that Microsoft is ready for beta.'

That's not what they said at all. They said specifically that it's not beta, but a build on the way to beta...

when I read this earlier the title I swear said "Build 8000 means beta is coming soon for Windows 8"

neufuse said,

when I read this earlier the title I swear said "Build 8000 means beta is coming soon for Windows 8"

If Neowin had that up as the title that still doesn't jive with Tom's comment about Softpedia since the Softpedia story states emphatically, even to the point of putting it in bold, that Build 8000 is not Beta1, but a build on the way to Beta1.

Mountain Dew said,

With Tom on what? He didn't even read it and made an assumption based on that lack of actually reading the content.
...
His complaint was, 'build 8000 does not mean that Microsoft is ready for beta.'

That's not what they said at all. They said specifically that it's not beta, but a build on the way to beta...


You misunderstood the article yourself. The article WAS saying that it is approaching beta due to the number 8000. The Softpedia quote was an alternate view that disagreed with the content of the article.

So let me distill it for you:
Polish source: its build 8000 we will see beta
Softpedia: not necessarily.

Tom simply misattributed the mistake to softpedia instead of the polish source.

Mountain Dew said,

If Neowin had that up as the title that still doesn't jive with Tom's comment about Softpedia since the Softpedia story states emphatically, even to the point of putting it in bold, that Build 8000 is not Beta1, but a build on the way to Beta1.

Beta isn't anywhere near. You could say every build before the Beta is on the path, but we still have a while to go. M3 just started. 8000 was more than likely compiled on the 5th of May.

I look forward to seeing an official release of a beta from one of the Conference's this year. They'll probably show off whats under the hood more in July and tease at the UI, but then come September, the full OS will be revealed. It'll go out to partners and Technet/MSDN subscribers first, for a couple weeks then hit full public beta after that. That's my thoughts.

Just because winmain hits build 8000 does not mean that Microsoft is ready for beta. Pure speculation from softpedia as usual.

Tom W said,
Just because winmain hits build 8000 does not mean that Microsoft is ready for beta. Pure speculation from softpedia as usual.

+1. But I am looking forward to seeing it though!

Tom W said,
Just because winmain hits build 8000 does not mean that Microsoft is ready for beta. Pure speculation from softpedia as usual.

Let me pull out the keywords for you there Tom since apparently you're having trouble reading what they said.

Critical to note Build 8000 is not Beta, but one of many Builds on the path to Beta.

Tom W said,
Just because winmain hits build 8000 does not mean that Microsoft is ready for beta. Pure speculation from softpedia as usual.

Don't worry, it's just an April Fools joke.

Tom W said,
Just because winmain hits build 8000 does not mean that Microsoft is ready for beta. Pure speculation from softpedia as usual.

I believe it will just be shedding the M3 tag and adopting the beta tag, though I wouldn't expect to see the official Beta 1 until the PDC.
I'm sure build 8000 was already compiled, oh.. sometime last week.
It was rumored that 7959 was somewhat buggy, I'm hoping they fixed those issues before proceeding to add more things to winmain when they change over from M3 to the beta branch.